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00:01:17,192\n我們是有掌握全盤掌握還是掌握多少我們有這個對這個比較重要的大概就是在半導體這個產業資通訊產業我們只有對半導體掌握其他都沒有什麼叫重要的部分重要的部分就是我們出口金額比較大的\n\n5\n00:01:18,690 --> 00:01:36,539\n出口金額比較大的才列為重要出口金額不大你任由它自生自滅但我們在分這個輕重緩急的時候總是要有一個依據嘛是沒錯啦然後對產業來講但是你有沒有全面去掌握當然我們是全面去掌握啦但是我們認為這個\n\n6\n00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:55,410\n包括這些內容包括智慧型手機電腦部分電子產品我們認為這一塊還有半導體這一塊佔了百分之七八十這個是非常重要所以你們只有針對您所說的這個去掌握也不是這個樣子也不能夠這樣給我下斷句沒有我是問題所以你說你有掌握我請問是哪一個部會是經濟部嗎負責統整這些調查\n\n7\n00:02:06,297 --> 00:02:29,365\n是哪一個單位負責是經濟部嗎我們是在跟這些廠商我們跟這些廠商座談了解他們調查當然不是我們那是哪一個單位調查是美國啊不是啦我是說我們自己國內剛剛我不是請教您嗎我們的政府我們要掌握我們受影響的產業\n\n8\n00:02:32,146 --> 00:02:50,129\n你現在政府要準備880億你政府自己主觀的我關心誰我就去了解誰我認為重要的我才掌握不是這樣我們政府做事不是沒有邏輯在做事情\n\n9\n00:02:50,769 --> 00:03:16,078\n我現在就是在看邏輯啊所以我再回答你的問題我的意思就是說我們盤點出來以後認為最重要的占我們70%的你盤點是你自己設定根據我們的出鈔金額裡面所呈現的這個金額裡面根據這一部分然後我們會受創的到底是用哪一些根據這一些去組合的嘛\n\n10\n00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:20,263\n然後我們發現這裡面這個最大的金額我們應該怎麼因應然後其他的傳統產業也是在這裡面百分之三十這個也非常重要所以我們要怎麼去因應嘛我們是這樣去盤點做的比較大的你有方法那金額比較小的你有照顧嗎\n\n11\n00:03:36,678 --> 00:03:44,866\n均衡比較小的我們也是都在盤點受估的每一家廠商可能會碰到的影響是怎麼樣的盤點完成了嗎我們幾乎都快盤點完成了幾乎的意思是快完成還沒有完全嗎\n\n12\n00:03:54,295 --> 00:04:05,779\n那個我文學沒有那麼好啦所以沒有辦法回答這個你的幾乎的定義是什麼這跟文學沒有關係因為你的回答我要確認我聽懂你的意思所以你們盤點完成了嗎我們都盤點過了好盤點過了我們暫時的去\n\n13\n00:04:11,221 --> 00:04:31,201\n因為這個所有的盤點就是是不是包括所有的廠商很難我們在這裡面這幾個月裡面不斷的在多次的盤點也透過了座談也透過工協會去了解那請大本席接著請教那你們知道潛在衝擊的金額和失業人數的預估嗎有沒有這個數字有沒有\n\n14\n00:04:38,812 --> 00:05:04,795\n國安的關稅因為這個還沒有確定所以我們是密切觀察中所以目前這個還沒有好那是否有成立了跨部會的小組協助企業可能的這個他可能會進行需要的補貼融資法規等配套是有已經啟動了報告委員我們我隨著總統或者隨著院長我們去去座談\n\n15\n00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:31,897\n院長或者總統都帶著經濟部財政部勞動部這個幾個主要的這個部會跟廠商有關的這些部會下去直接聽廠商的需求然後回來再檢討所以才會提出九大這個九大項20個措施我方應變的機制還有負責的窗口也都有產業他都知道要找誰嗎\n\n16\n00:05:34,141 --> 00:05:56,155\n我們是透過工協會最後本席請教我們現在對美的溝通談判目前有沒有任何的成效我們有沒有成功爭取任何一項232關稅的排除或者是我們台灣有沒有哪一項產品獲得例外或優惠的對待\n\n17\n00:05:56,957 --> 00:06:19,498\n報告委員,這個談判是由副院長、正副院長代表所談的他們在進行中根據國際慣例,這個內容都不能夠披露那很抱歉,我相信他們談判完了以後有好的成效也一定會公告給我們國人了解這以上跟您報告\n\n18\n00:06:20,373 --> 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