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00:01:03,068\n那所以呢我從上一屆提案到現在曾經有可行性評估但是呢可行性評估呢你們用簡單的幾頁就告訴我不可行那我認為這不太負責任我還是希望次長如果有空邀請部長跟你一起到台中來到中部來來看看我們現在我們來盤點那中台灣的這個流行音樂或是流行文化它有什麼\n\n5\n00:01:23,337 --> 00:01:39,313\n可以跟北流跟高流不一樣的定位但是呢卻可以互補分進合集可以撐起台灣的流行音樂或是流行文化這樣子的一個像\n\n6\n00:01:40,074 --> 00:02:09,218\n你的業務報告裡面我們要成為這個台流那台流呢我想要不同很多的元素來組成那這個區域的一個文化平權跟區域上的一個差異性是不是能夠造就衝擊出不同的一個流行文化或者是可以帶動不同的一個流行的一個音樂的場域我覺得次長這個你可以沉默我這個有機會有時間安排部長或您來台中走一趟嗎\n\n7\n00:02:09,938 --> 00:02:32,647\n第一個非常謝謝委員的邀請,其實我是台中出身的,所以對台中還蠻熟悉,在台中念的大學那因為流行音樂中心的問題先跟委員說明,因為現在其實北流南流的經營跟它的發展其實大概都還需要政府很大量的支撐所以對於新設立流行音樂中心我們當然在政策的決定上就會相對比較謹慎那尤其台中其實有台中歌劇院,這也是其他地方所沒有的\n\n8\n00:02:32,947 --> 00:02:42,294\n台中歌劇院並不是我們所謂的流行文化或是流行音樂台中歌劇院它是站在不同的文化面向跟不同的一個現實大家都會發展自己的主題跟自己的強項那所以我想台中\n\n9\n00:02:49,740 --> 00:03:16,418\n市長你也知道過去70年代的民歌是從台中開始發源的對所以我們也很期待台中可以在流行音樂上也有一個新的表現只是說我只要跟委員說明說這一類的發展它有的時候可以透過政策的帶動或者是活動的帶動那設立管社這件事情不一定要走在最前面那我可以接受市長的說法但是文化部要給我一個策略性的一個\n\n10\n00:03:17,259 --> 00:03:33,305\n短中長期的策略性的一個給我看嘛比如說對於台中我們中台灣我們文化部可以支持什麼的活動那由活動來帶動那我們可以中期可以期待是什麼長期可以期待的是什麼國漫館\n\n11\n00:03:36,807 --> 00:04:03,670\n國門館我們現在看到的是這個整個文資身份的這個建築物的一個活化利用這我們很樂見其成現在禮拜六禮拜天也很多人但是呢它周遭的配套還有所謂的第二的一個建物我記得還有一個第二基地嗎還在進行中新建部分還有下一個階段的計畫是吧可是它的工建這個計畫通過核定了嗎還沒有核定但我們現在有在繼續申請會有第二下一個階段\n\n12\n00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:32,957\n如果說在下一個階段我覺得那是國漫基地下一個階段可以讓它更完整的變成是一個漫畫博物館或者是它更大的一個年輕人也好或是文化人喜歡的一個動漫場域我當然全力支持啊那我現在講的是這個流行音樂或是流行文化中心我記得我們中央其實有補助台中市政府有一個所謂的影視音的一個流行文化中心你知道有這一件事嗎\n\n13\n00:04:33,877 --> 00:05:00,496\n流行文化中心最近才完成而且才委外經營喔你不知道喔下次我們安排一個考察啦我邀請部長或次長來看啦中台灣電影中心現在變成是流行影音中心它是流行影音中心啦所以的確包括音樂的部分就是原本的那個電影中心啦中台灣電影中心\n\n14\n00:05:01,457 --> 00:05:19,228\n它本來是中台灣電影中心本來我們的期待是它能夠專注做好電影相關的產業的發展那這個中心我當然也全力支持不過現在改成所謂的影音中心那把音樂納進去可是問題是它現在這個場館的場域其實不大\n\n15\n00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:24,451\n她對於流行音樂來講她的展演的場地是小的所以是沒有專業的一個規劃所以我還是認為如果中央可以幫忙的話我也希望啦大家能夠呢及時廣益那有策略性的來推動幫忙\n\n16\n00:05:40,878 --> 00:06:01,544\n台中有一個未來的流行文化中心我地方上有很多的樂團也好或者是音樂祭、音樂節的籌備單位也好他們都在談說台中就是缺乏場館所以當他們在設計不管是流行音樂或者是在推展藝術活動的時候\n\n17\n00:06:04,545 --> 00:06:08,148\n台中國家歌劇院對他們來講太高了光是租金他們也付不起那其他的場域我們巨蛋還沒生出來大巨蛋更還沒有那個對他們來講也都太大了那有什麼是適合他們的一個場館包括我們台中的中心堂現在放著在那裡\n\n18\n00:06:27,165 --> 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中心點那大家都會集中或者是藝文活動它都會進我們所謂的台中的這個都會區裡面這個它是一個輻射性的一個影響我所以希望次長或者是下一次邀請部長到台中來考察我們好好的坐下來談一談中台灣的相關的這個不管是流行文化或是流行音樂的一個\n444913\t463300\t據點場館的未來可能性好不好我想一樣再次謝謝委員邀請我們也很希望在中台灣也有一些流行音樂或者是影視音樂上面的表現那要跟委員說其實之前為什麼中台灣電影中心後來變成攝影中心也跟他沒有廠商投標流標有關就是\n464821\t487984\t針對經營硬體這件事情其實在地方來說可能需要地方政府更多的投入跟支持不然的話其實像這一些它就算有硬體的空間卻很難在軟體的經營上有成果那這一點我想我們再跟委員再做一些討論跟研議看怎麼樣可以促進在地的這些文化藝文的發展可能是當務之急以上跟委員補充好 那我等你我們再約時間好不好謝謝 謝謝委員好 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中心點那大家都會集中或者是藝文活動它都會進我們所謂的台中的這個都會區裡面這個它是一個輻射性的一個影響我所以希望次長或者是下一次邀請部長到台中來考察我們好好的坐下來談一談中台灣的相關的這個不管是流行文化或是流行音樂的一個\n據點場館的未來可能性好不好我想一樣再次謝謝委員邀請我們也很希望在中台灣也有一些流行音樂或者是影視音樂上面的表現那要跟委員說其實之前為什麼中台灣電影中心後來變成攝影中心也跟他沒有廠商投標流標有關就是\n針對經營硬體這件事情其實在地方來說可能需要地方政府更多的投入跟支持不然的話其實像這一些它就算有硬體的空間卻很難在軟體的經營上有成果那這一點我想我們再跟委員再做一些討論跟研議看怎麼樣可以促進在地的這些文化藝文的發展可能是當務之急以上跟委員補充好 那我等你我們再約時間好不好謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝何欣淳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.286 --> 00:05.412\n有請次長\n\n00:13.026 --> 00:33.803\n次長好我今天特地回來娘家教文委員會對文化是非常的肯定尤其我們文化部在李委員長跟次長跟團隊的努力之下但是我還是希望來就教於次長第一個有關於流行音樂在台中中部地區的問題\n\n00:36.505 --> 00:50.981\n我不知道次長知不知道以台中中部地區來看的話我們長久以來一直在認為我們缺乏了一個流行音樂中心因為有北流有高流就是沒有一個中流那我們中流希望成為台灣的中流砥柱\n\n00:53.604 --> 01:03.068\n那所以呢我從上一屆提案到現在曾經有可行性評估但是呢可行性評估呢你們用簡單的幾頁就告訴我不可行那我認為這不太負責任我還是希望次長如果有空邀請部長跟你一起到台中來到中部來來看看我們現在我們來盤點那中台灣的這個流行音樂或是流行文化它有什麼\n\n01:23.337 --> 01:39.313\n可以跟北流跟高流不一樣的定位但是呢卻可以互補分進合集可以撐起台灣的流行音樂或是流行文化這樣子的一個像\n\n01:40.074 --> 02:09.218\n你的業務報告裡面我們要成為這個台流那台流呢我想要不同很多的元素來組成那這個區域的一個文化平權跟區域上的一個差異性是不是能夠造就衝擊出不同的一個流行文化或者是可以帶動不同的一個流行的一個音樂的場域我覺得次長這個你可以沉默我這個有機會有時間安排部長或您來台中走一趟嗎\n\n02:09.938 --> 02:32.647\n第一個非常謝謝委員的邀請,其實我是台中出身的,所以對台中還蠻熟悉,在台中念的大學那因為流行音樂中心的問題先跟委員說明,因為現在其實北流南流的經營跟它的發展其實大概都還需要政府很大量的支撐所以對於新設立流行音樂中心我們當然在政策的決定上就會相對比較謹慎那尤其台中其實有台中歌劇院,這也是其他地方所沒有的\n\n02:32.947 --> 02:42.294\n台中歌劇院並不是我們所謂的流行文化或是流行音樂台中歌劇院它是站在不同的文化面向跟不同的一個現實大家都會發展自己的主題跟自己的強項那所以我想台中\n\n02:49.740 --> 03:16.418\n市長你也知道過去70年代的民歌是從台中開始發源的對所以我們也很期待台中可以在流行音樂上也有一個新的表現只是說我只要跟委員說明說這一類的發展它有的時候可以透過政策的帶動或者是活動的帶動那設立管社這件事情不一定要走在最前面那我可以接受市長的說法但是文化部要給我一個策略性的一個\n\n03:17.259 --> 03:33.305\n短中長期的策略性的一個給我看嘛比如說對於台中我們中台灣我們文化部可以支持什麼的活動那由活動來帶動那我們可以中期可以期待是什麼長期可以期待的是什麼國漫館\n\n03:36.807 --> 04:03.670\n國門館我們現在看到的是這個整個文資身份的這個建築物的一個活化利用這我們很樂見其成現在禮拜六禮拜天也很多人但是呢它周遭的配套還有所謂的第二的一個建物我記得還有一個第二基地嗎還在進行中新建部分還有下一個階段的計畫是吧可是它的工建這個計畫通過核定了嗎還沒有核定但我們現在有在繼續申請會有第二下一個階段\n\n04:04.170 --> 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