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00:02:07,092\n大海盜,雖然他中國,但是他很多的發展都在台灣所以包括說在媽祖媽祖有四個天后宮,都說是川崎還是川崎媽建造的因為他們當時蔡遷他為了要跟清朝打仗跟他的宿敵叫做李長庚打仗所以他為了跟李長庚打仗他就需要了這一些商人商人,所以他有叫做免捷券\n\n7\n00:02:08,252 --> 00:02:25,050\n他會免結券就是說,你生意人如果聽我,我就不理你太怕所以他都用生意人,他都用那些商船,把我撞上去,就陷上了病了這些商船也很樂於說,來收聽這個事件因為他們處理的安全,都事件很縱橫的,他叫做海防隊\n\n8\n00:02:30,716 --> 00:02:46,986\n海皇帝結果他就縱橫了整個台灣海峽甚至咧他的宿敵李長庚主要是在蔡牽岳割陣的時候咧去娶嫁媽娶嫁媽很可怕的主要是一炮打捧屍捧屍一堆黑水膏\n\n9\n00:02:48,403 --> 00:02:54,387\n所以現在在澎湖可以看到很多拆遷,他的天后宮,建廟的都是剉剷在這個天后宮,東營的天后宮就有一尊神明叫做什麼?李邁大王\n\n10\n00:03:03,814 --> 00:03:11,117\n那時候叫李邁大王出來說,他在配合,前面要來打獵的時候,他很看得到,他很看得到,在配合檔案的一個沙頭,怎麼有一個農夫砍一隻牛在那裡賣,他很氣的看,氣的看,沒看到那個農夫,結果他看到的是清朝的船來了,他就走了。\n\n11\n00:03:27,584 --> 00:03:32,609\n所以這就是一個故事,你看現在在東營,這個李邁大王,這個神也還在好,這說回來,我們現在,我們當初,當初呢,我們有一個叫做好人宮好人宮呢,有一尊寶,這尊寶在這裡,他叫做替罪將軍\n\n12\n00:03:45,905 --> 00:03:53,849\n他也是新民喔你如果要求事業發達你就要來拜天祭將軍為什麼他好人狂呢因為川崎有一個寶河他住在東州的五郊村所以五郊村我們過去都有說他是一個海盜村就是川崎一個很強的寶河住在五郊那時候是三大廚含婚姻的靠偶那兩個裝在對決的時候\n\n13\n00:04:14,339 --> 00:04:19,343\n這個五個的這個人,主要是帶錢送給他的炮,送給這個城堂,這個城堂主要用這個炮,沒有造成傷亡,因為他把那個炮打出來,然後對方就說,喔,你的火力比較強,這樣我不要跟你們打,我們來和解。\n\n14\n00:04:31,732 --> 00:04:37,173\n所以後來就化解了兩個村莊的恩怨所以這一尊大砲那個日本時代說也在口腔因為怕被日本人破壞後來我們外國人看到這個炮彈撈出來撈出來後來說你看它就整個它就結心所以大家動作它就神格化就變這個鐵嘴將軍鐵嘴將軍所以你看這個故事很正的我說到現在要說一半\n\n15\n00:04:59,818 --> 00:05:08,903\n我剛才說的,都是海產這邊喔你知不知道,抓他的那個李長庚李長庚他的,他就是給他出錢罵,給他打死的要出錢的,就給李長庚的大寶蝦叫做什麼人,你們知道嗎你們不知道對不對,你們都不知道,真沒差啦他的這個寶蝦,後來就產評蔡謙,他叫做王德祿\n\n16\n00:05:27,998 --> 00:05:42,730\n王德祿這個人王德祿這個人他藏污過林選文的一個事件然後產評蔡謙有很大的功勞所以後來清朝家慶家慶封地大家封作太子太保封作太子太保所以現在家儀館我們的憲制所在地在哪裡太保太保是\n\n17\n00:05:52,842 --> 00:06:03,372\n那就是在想台灣的故事啊這個王德路現在他種的地方在新港跟六甲的高架那個地方叫做環博那時候我們要種在環博要種在新港的安和村種在環博它是台灣最大的私人的一個文物\n\n18\n00:06:17,193 --> 00:06:22,654\n因為那時候翁德祿就是台灣在清朝做過最大的貿易就是他做過最大的貿易所以他就要進入環保所以你看他那裡有很多古蹟你說台灣有王德祿的一個寺廟然後都有這個王德祿的墓園像我剛才說的川崎他在媽祖留下了這麼多的媽祖廟\n\n19\n00:06:43,059 --> 00:06:56,422\n他在淡水,他在台南的鹿鴻門那裡,都有插牽東西,他的海產的軍隊,那不是軍隊,他的海產的策隊,策隊部署的地方,這有夠好的個數啊!我剛才跟他說,很多人都叫我這個個數說給你聽,很多人,我剛才加水,很多人說,所以我覺得這個IP有夠好,要去發展。\n\n20\n00:07:11,650 --> 00:07:19,100\n說到娶娶媽她就越來越精采娶娶媽以前她們是老闆娘娶娶媽比較愛飄飄每天都住在別的女人家\n\n21\n00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:42,495\n都夜宿其他人家啦,所以串謙一次去剃頭的時候,說這個女孩子這麼漂亮,一打賣起來,變成山寨夫人串謙媽就對串謙就開始賤金做海產,她就老,老賤,老官吏,所以串謙媽也很有名\n\n22\n00:07:44,156 --> 00:07:53,393\n這裡有很多故事,然後留下很多俚語包括我們現在在跟孩子說,孩子太壞,吃不乖就說串燒要來,比較黑就要串燒\n\n23\n00:07:57,489 --> 00:08:22,970\n這有很多這樣的理由,還是怎樣?這樣的事情沒辦法發展成IP,發展成很好的故事連我們台灣有這麼多的市民都是這個故事演出下來的這也不是故事,是歷史事件,對不對?我們家裡的爹娘太保就是王德祿,剷除蔡謙有功勞我們文化部說的就是說,事實上我經常這樣說有人對我說,有導演覺得說這個可以來拍\n\n24\n00:08:27,774 --> 00:08:39,269\n來拍很好的一個劇所以我在這裡我想要演出說但是這個故事說到前方我也希望我們文化部要大力支持屬於台灣在地元素的IP這樣好不好\n\n25\n00:08:40,151 --> 00:09:01,861\n非常謝謝委員的故事跟指教跟委員說明我們非常非常希望台灣這一類的原創型的歷史內容文化內容可以IP化但是在IP化它有一個過程譬如說像委員剛剛說的故事它可能需要先變成小說漫畫或劇本它才有可能做更多更完整的發展所以在這些的\n\n26\n00:09:02,761 --> 00:09:29,924\n過程裡面文化部都會盡可能的去推動那也希望在這些跟台灣的地方跟台灣在地歷史發展有關的文化內容可以更被有效率的整理出來成為未來IP化的內容基礎市長所以就這樣嘛你看有的嘉慶君由台灣這一個這個應該也不是事實啦可是一個傳言嘉慶君由台灣所以要有創作者的頭目你看明花園就大家變成說轉生為異世界投胎變嘉慶君\n\n27\n00:09:30,845 --> 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每天都住在別的女人家\n444544\t462495\t都夜宿其他人家啦,所以串謙一次去剃頭的時候,說這個女孩子這麼漂亮,一打賣起來,變成山寨夫人串謙媽就對串謙就開始賤金做海產,她就老,老賤,老官吏,所以串謙媽也很有名\n464156\t473393\t這裡有很多故事,然後留下很多俚語包括我們現在在跟孩子說,孩子太壞,吃不乖就說串燒要來,比較黑就要串燒\n477489\t502970\t這有很多這樣的理由,還是怎樣?這樣的事情沒辦法發展成IP,發展成很好的故事連我們台灣有這麼多的市民都是這個故事演出下來的這也不是故事,是歷史事件,對不對?我們家裡的爹娘太保就是王德祿,剷除蔡謙有功勞我們文化部說的就是說,事實上我經常這樣說有人對我說,有導演覺得說這個可以來拍\n507774\t519269\t來拍很好的一個劇所以我在這裡我想要演出說但是這個故事說到前方我也希望我們文化部要大力支持屬於台灣在地元素的IP這樣好不好\n520151\t541861\t非常謝謝委員的故事跟指教跟委員說明我們非常非常希望台灣這一類的原創型的歷史內容文化內容可以IP化但是在IP化它有一個過程譬如說像委員剛剛說的故事它可能需要先變成小說漫畫或劇本它才有可能做更多更完整的發展所以在這些的\n542761\t569924\t過程裡面文化部都會盡可能的去推動那也希望在這些跟台灣的地方跟台灣在地歷史發展有關的文化內容可以更被有效率的整理出來成為未來IP化的內容基礎市長所以就這樣嘛你看有的嘉慶君由台灣這一個這個應該也不是事實啦可是一個傳言嘉慶君由台灣所以要有創作者的頭目你看明花園就大家變成說轉生為異世界投胎變嘉慶君\n570845\t578229\t是然後還把詐騙梗說去哪裡發現我的祖先在嘉慶郡來台灣的時候我的祖先是詐騙集團啊我變成嘉慶郡這樣我要把我的祖先抓起來還是不要的是啊所以委員這都已經二創加一個年輕人會喜歡的這些梗都進來了\n589295\t613374\t是 我覺得您剛剛的故事要寫下來我們才有第一個文本可以發展可以變繪本的漫畫片IP我剛才說這麼多就是希望這些故事你們幫我奉送出去啦沒有啦 創作者要下樓來啦是啦 是啦就是文化部鼓勵更多創作者去尋找台灣元素的IP台灣有很多很讚的故事即使我們過去我們都說中國的故事比較讚啦我們都看中國故事我們都看日本的戰國時代我們都忘記台灣有這麼多我們也有大海盜的時代啊\n619199\t625230\t陳正之龍啦,對不對,還有蔡謙啦,這些大海盜都是台灣存在的故事啊好不好,好,謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝召委那我們是不是有請文化部次長好 有請次長文豪\n市長 我想要延續前幾次針對國內的影視的IP台灣有好多影視的IP 但是都少了發揚光大所以我在這裡 我要講一下 這個明花園好厲害\n這個明華園他們過去就是有一個很著名的IP就是家慶君由台灣他現在家慶君由台灣這間對年輕人沒有吸引力的所以他們現在就把這個轉生異世界投身為家慶君發現我的祖先是詐騙集團\n這是明華園最新的劇喔你看它有多少梗啊年輕人最喜歡的轉生梗異世界梗然後還有這個平行宇宙然後還有時事詐騙集團所以你看它的故事我寫在這裡我不要說不然很多人要去看這個表現就可以知道所以你可以知道說這個就是一個IP經過惡創然後就會吸引到更多的族群來看\n所以我覺得文化部你就是要去大量去尋找台灣有用的IP那我上一次事實上我跟部長在聊的時候我講了蔡謙串謙與串謙罵的故事串謙與串謙罵的這是台灣最有名的\n大海盜,雖然他中國,但是他很多的發展都在台灣所以包括說在媽祖媽祖有四個天后宮,都說是川崎還是川崎媽建造的因為他們當時蔡遷他為了要跟清朝打仗跟他的宿敵叫做李長庚打仗所以他為了跟李長庚打仗他就需要了這一些商人商人,所以他有叫做免捷券\n他會免結券就是說,你生意人如果聽我,我就不理你太怕所以他都用生意人,他都用那些商船,把我撞上去,就陷上了病了這些商船也很樂於說,來收聽這個事件因為他們處理的安全,都事件很縱橫的,他叫做海防隊\n海皇帝 結果他就縱橫了整個台灣海峽甚至咧 他的宿敵李長庚 主要是在蔡牽岳割陣的時候咧 去娶嫁媽 娶嫁媽很可怕的主要是一炮打捧屍 捧屍一堆黑水膏\n所以現在在澎湖可以看到很多拆遷,他的天后宮,建廟的都是剉剷在這個天后宮,東營的天后宮就有一尊神明叫做什麼?李邁大王\n那時候叫李邁大王出來說,他在配合,前面要來打獵的時候,他很看得到,他很看得到,在配合檔案的一個沙頭,怎麼有一個農夫砍一隻牛在那裡賣,他很氣的看,氣的看,沒看到那個農夫,結果他看到的是清朝的船來了,他就走了。\n所以這就是一個故事,你看現在在東營,這個李邁大王,這個神也還在好,這說回來,我們現在,我們當初,當初呢,我們有一個叫做好人宮好人宮呢,有一尊寶,這尊寶在這裡,他叫做替罪將軍\n他也是新民喔 你如果要求事業發達 你就要來拜天祭將軍為什麼他好人狂呢 因為川崎有一個寶河他住在東州的五郊村所以五郊村我們過去都有說他是一個海盜村就是川崎一個很強的寶河 住在五郊那時候是三大廚 含婚姻的 靠偶那兩個裝在對決的時候\n這個五個的這個人,主要是帶錢送給他的炮,送給這個城堂,這個城堂主要用這個炮,沒有造成傷亡,因為他把那個炮打出來,然後對方就說,喔,你的火力比較強,這樣我不要跟你們打,我們來和解。\n所以後來就化解了兩個村莊的恩怨所以這一尊大砲 那個日本時代說也在口腔因為怕被日本人破壞 後來我們外國人看到這個炮彈撈出來撈出來後來說 你看 它就整個 它就結心所以大家 動作 它就神格化就變這個鐵嘴將軍 鐵嘴將軍所以你看這個故事很正的 我說到現在 要說一半\n我剛才說的,都是海產這邊喔你知不知道,抓他的那個李長庚李長庚他的,他就是給他出錢罵,給他打死的要出錢的,就給李長庚的大寶蝦叫做什麼人,你們知道嗎你們不知道對不對,你們都不知道,真沒差啦他的這個寶蝦,後來就產評蔡謙,他叫做王德祿\n王德祿這個人王德祿這個人他藏污過林選文的一個事件然後產評蔡謙有很大的功勞所以後來清朝家慶家慶封地大家封作太子太保封作太子太保所以現在家儀館我們的憲制所在地在哪裡太保太保是\n那就是在想台灣的故事啊這個王德路現在他種的地方在新港跟六甲的高架那個地方叫做環博那時候我們要種在環博 要種在新港的安和村種在環博 它是台灣最大的私人的一個文物\n因為那時候翁德祿就是台灣在清朝做過最大的貿易就是他做過最大的貿易所以他就要進入環保所以你看他那裡有很多古蹟你說台灣有王德祿的一個寺廟然後都有這個王德祿的墓園像我剛才說的川崎他在媽祖留下了這麼多的媽祖廟\n他在淡水,他在台南的鹿鴻門那裡,都有插牽東西,他的海產的軍隊,那不是軍隊,他的海產的策隊,策隊部署的地方,這有夠好的個數啊!我剛才跟他說,很多人都叫我這個個數說給你聽,很多人,我剛才加水,很多人說,所以我覺得這個IP有夠好,要去發展。\n說到娶娶媽 她就越來越精采娶娶媽以前 她們是老闆娘娶娶媽比較愛飄飄 每天都住在別的女人家\n都夜宿其他人家啦,所以串謙一次去剃頭的時候,說這個女孩子這麼漂亮,一打賣起來,變成山寨夫人串謙媽就對串謙就開始賤金做海產,她就老,老賤,老官吏,所以串謙媽也很有名\n這裡有很多故事,然後留下很多俚語包括我們現在在跟孩子說,孩子太壞,吃不乖就說串燒要來,比較黑就要串燒\n這有很多這樣的理由,還是怎樣?這樣的事情沒辦法發展成IP,發展成很好的故事連我們台灣有這麼多的市民都是這個故事演出下來的這也不是故事,是歷史事件,對不對?我們家裡的爹娘太保就是王德祿,剷除蔡謙有功勞我們文化部說的就是說,事實上我經常這樣說有人對我說,有導演覺得說這個可以來拍\n來拍很好的一個劇所以我在這裡我想要演出說但是這個故事說到前方我也希望我們文化部要大力支持屬於台灣在地元素的IP這樣好不好\n非常謝謝委員的故事跟指教跟委員說明我們非常非常希望台灣這一類的原創型的歷史內容文化內容可以IP化但是在IP化它有一個過程譬如說像委員剛剛說的故事它可能需要先變成小說漫畫或劇本它才有可能做更多更完整的發展所以在這些的\n過程裡面文化部都會盡可能的去推動那也希望在這些跟台灣的地方跟台灣在地歷史發展有關的文化內容可以更被有效率的整理出來成為未來IP化的內容基礎市長所以就這樣嘛你看有的嘉慶君由台灣這一個這個應該也不是事實啦可是一個傳言嘉慶君由台灣所以要有創作者的頭目你看明花園就大家變成說轉生為異世界投胎變嘉慶君\n是然後還把詐騙梗說去哪裡發現我的祖先在嘉慶郡來台灣的時候我的祖先是詐騙集團啊我變成嘉慶郡這樣我要把我的祖先抓起來還是不要的是啊所以委員這都已經二創加一個年輕人會喜歡的這些梗都進來了\n是 我覺得您剛剛的故事要寫下來我們才有第一個文本可以發展可以變繪本的漫畫片IP我剛才說這麼多就是希望這些故事你們幫我奉送出去啦沒有啦 創作者要下樓來啦是啦 是啦就是文化部鼓勵更多創作者去尋找台灣元素的IP台灣有很多很讚的故事即使我們過去我們都說中國的故事比較讚啦我們都看中國故事我們都看日本的戰國時代我們都忘記台灣有這麼多我們也有大海盜的時代啊\n陳正之龍啦,對不對,還有蔡謙啦,這些大海盜都是台灣存在的故事啊好不好,好,謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.620 --> 00:16.911\n好謝謝召委那我們是不是有請文化部次長好有請次長文豪\n\n00:18.281 --> 00:31.668\n市長我想要延續前幾次針對國內的影視的IP台灣有好多影視的IP但是都少了發揚光大所以我在這裡我要講一下這個明花園好厲害\n\n00:33.969 --> 00:53.352\n這個明華園他們過去就是有一個很著名的IP就是家慶君由台灣他現在家慶君由台灣這間對年輕人沒有吸引力的所以他們現在就把這個轉生異世界投身為家慶君發現我的祖先是詐騙集團\n\n00:54.993 --> 01:20.744\n這是明華園最新的劇喔你看它有多少梗啊年輕人最喜歡的轉生梗異世界梗然後還有這個平行宇宙然後還有時事詐騙集團所以你看它的故事我寫在這裡我不要說不然很多人要去看這個表現就可以知道所以你可以知道說這個就是一個IP經過惡創然後就會吸引到更多的族群來看\n\n01:21.844 --> 01:34.156\n所以我覺得文化部你就是要去大量去尋找台灣有用的IP那我上一次事實上我跟部長在聊的時候我講了蔡謙串謙與串謙罵的故事串謙與串謙罵的這是台灣最有名的\n\n01:40.282 --> 02:07.092\n大海盜,雖然他中國,但是他很多的發展都在台灣所以包括說在媽祖媽祖有四個天后宮,都說是川崎還是川崎媽建造的因為他們當時蔡遷他為了要跟清朝打仗跟他的宿敵叫做李長庚打仗所以他為了跟李長庚打仗他就需要了這一些商人商人,所以他有叫做免捷券\n\n02:08.252 --> 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