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00:02:20,847\n那個就像委員這邊簡報講我們大概就是這個有三個方向目標正在做嘛一個就是但是治安法是一個最基礎我們希望能夠很快通過之後再來就是說怎麼樣強化這個落實這個治安法的執行包括全社會防禦任性還有我們要讓我們帶我們治安產業能夠在這過程中讓我們才能夠成長甚至部長我想以剛剛其他委員的發言跟我們班長級委員的發言大家對治安法的修法\n\n7\n00:02:21,823 --> 00:02:44,442\n都支持但是呢法修過的時候真正重要讓國人有感的是什麼是落實你剛剛講到重點如何落實我們如何強化資安維護國安那強化資安公私協力如何打擊詐騙安我們國家的安全也要安人民國人的信心跟他的財產安全\n\n8\n00:02:45,683 --> 00:03:11,718\n所以這一部分如何落實最重要嘛對不對我就舉一個例子以現在我們一般國人最有感的是什麼我們連LINE的詐騙我們都不知道該怎麼辦我們詐騙手法不斷的變形更新現在最近將近以媒體我看到的數字包括我在基層走訪連我自己身邊的親人也一樣都是透過LINE群組\n\n9\n00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:35,394\n八成以上LINE的帳號被盜變成了詐騙集團的工具那所以LINE盜用三大陷阱帳號釣魚小朋友參加繪圖繪畫比賽你可不可以幫忙按一下投一票嗎我們這個社區參加這個計畫的評比你可不可以幫我們按個讚然後幫我們怎麼樣怎麼樣這是一個帳號釣魚第二個電話號碼盜用\n\n10\n00:03:41,157 --> 00:03:56,532\n盜用的這個電話號碼跟簡訊的認證碼那事實上不是他第三個手法電腦版的盜用要你去掃那個假的QRcode那這些都是很新的詐騙手法而且是現在正在進行中\n\n11\n00:03:58,907 --> 00:04:16,202\n現在正在進行中包括我們政府官員包括我聽說連我們之前的這個中央政府的政務委員他可能他的帳號都被盜用還可以跟你LINE一下說好久不見你要是聽到有人LINE給你說好久不見接下來可能說他家發生什麼事要借錢\n\n12\n00:04:17,791 --> 00:04:37,081\nLINE的帳號被盜用那我要告訴你現在LINE的帳號被盜用之後呢民眾報警也沒用欸只能等為什麼我就要請部長幫幫忙你又跟我說這是警政署的事跟我沒有關係警政署告訴我們這八成以上的這個整個LINE的帳號被盜的一個詐騙型態\n\n13\n00:04:39,403 --> 00:04:50,139\nLINE平台的配合態度消極我用實際的案例有一個來跟我陳情的他的LINE帳號被盜第一個他找不到真人客服\n\n14\n00:04:51,223 --> 00:05:08,938\n第二個呢他傳了這個LINE的官方的問題反應表通報了但是很抱歉客服只在24小時你回覆收到收到了之後呢很抱歉你可能還要再等個三天五天一個禮拜等到LINE到底能不能給你處理這個假帳號的問題\n\n15\n00:05:13,066 --> 00:05:36,132\n部長我可不可以請你啊可不可以再跟這個平台聊聊天喝咖啡聊一下好不好可不可以讓他們的態度積極一點然後呢讓國人有感我已經被詐騙了我被這個LINE的假帳號詐騙我都已經很不準了而且我還心急如焚啊我去報警也沒用啊\n\n16\n00:05:37,884 --> 00:06:01,920\n我去報警也沒用啊報告委員我們的確這是一個問題我們也跟警政署有討論那我們也正在積極跟NINE溝通那這個是不是可以請負財署說明一下來請說謝謝委員關心這個議題那這個議題我想我們也很關心昨天晚上跟日本的NINE公司開會開到晚上7點多那這個檢警調都有參加那委員關心的客戶問題NINE也嘗試在決定現在從一個禮拜\n\n17\n00:06:05,302 --> 00:06:21,710\n100筆提升到200筆的處理的然後教業的這個流程也是在優化當中所以我們會定期開會來協助民眾解決這個問題拜託啦跟平台多溝通啦處理的案件量可以再更有效率而且再更簡化優化他的流程啦不然這樣子讓我們的國人\n\n18\n00:06:26,132 --> 00:06:45,137\n等等等到第一個報警也沒用第二個他等三天五天等一個禮拜他的這個時間差可能他的LINE的假帳號還不斷的在詐騙其他國人那這個東西事情就像滾雪球般的越滾越大那被詐騙的金額就越來越多你知道嗎所以剛剛\n\n19\n00:06:46,577 --> 00:07:06,444\n其他委員在關心不是只有我們國人一般人這樣被詐騙我們現在更擔憂的是什麼很多的國際型的駭客組織鎖定台灣在做網路攻擊剛剛有講到醫療體系很多家的醫院也有很多家的產業\n\n20\n00:07:07,924 --> 00:07:21,835\n公司企業那這個已經是有系統性的在攻擊在勒索或者是在其他的這個我們的各自的外洩變成是這個不同的應用方式而且這個是違法的應用\n\n21\n00:07:23,394 --> 00:07:50,611\n那這個我覺得在源頭如果說在資安的部分我們速發部沒有提供資源能夠積極的去協助這些醫療院所或是協助這些產業企業那後端就衍生出很多的一個違法的應用那傷及到我們國人的權利跟他可能未來會被詐騙的可能性就會提高部長\n\n22\n00:07:51,751 --> 00:08:14,240\n所以呢你剛剛其他委員問你都沒有回答那這麼多家的醫療院所被勒索被攻擊那我們做了什麼那第二個那有些產業企業界我們現在法律規定上市櫃公司要有資安長那如果他不是上市櫃公司的話他被勒索他被這個攻擊那又該怎麼辦\n\n23\n00:08:15,646 --> 00:08:34,780\n那個報告委員我們遇到這種事情第一時間我們都有請治安院去協助所以事實上是有進去協助那當然就是說未來我覺得更重要是從源頭就是說希望將來我們有更多的因為法規依據我們可以對這些這個重要的這個不管是醫院或是這些公司做治安的演練跟集合確認\n\n24\n00:08:36,021 --> 00:08:51,412\n不會有這樣的一個漏洞那這才是一個最主要的所以我想資安法的修法對我們未來整個國家資安防護讓我們有權力去要求研練跟執行之後還有資安事件的通報等等等要整個大家一起公私協力把這個做好\n\n25\n00:08:52,613 --> 00:09:05,389\n我具體的要求部長啦我們速發部可不可以在兩個禮拜之內針對這種系統性的不管是醫療體系的供給或者是我們的產業公司行號的這個供給\n\n26\n00:09:07,031 --> 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改造他的組織啦所以他的數位治理呢將要設一個新興威脅住親專設AI還有網路安全的事務啦那包括南韓也在動員國家的一個這個網路的防禦力量那所以我也知道呢這個\n51820\t72093\t我們賴總統他也在最近一直以來在宣示對於這個資安國家隊的一個組成還有對於台灣的資安的風險我們如何的來提升這個不是只有在政府單位包括民間產業面那怎麼去強化社會的一個資安防禦韌性還有\n77817\t101983\t資安的產業的生態系要能夠的健全那如何建築新興科技的防禦技術等等我想這些都是我們數位發展部國人對你們的重大的期許包括總統跟行政院對數位發展部也有很多的任務交付那以賴總統他有提出這個因應關威脅等等包括防\n102583\t110150\t防止網路供給強化資安等等剛剛其他委員很關心這個事情那我們速發部目前的行動檢要重點\n111874\t140847\t那個就像委員這邊簡報講我們大概就是這個有三個方向目標正在做嘛一個就是但是治安法是一個最基礎我們希望能夠很快通過之後再來就是說怎麼樣強化這個落實這個治安法的執行包括全社會防禦任性還有我們要讓我們帶我們治安產業能夠在這過程中讓我們才能夠成長甚至部長我想以剛剛其他委員的發言跟我們班長級委員的發言大家對治安法的修法\n141823\t164442\t都支持但是呢法修過的時候真正重要讓國人有感的是什麼是落實你剛剛講到重點如何落實我們如何強化資安維護國安那強化資安公私協力如何打擊詐騙安我們國家的安全也要安人民國人的信心跟他的財產安全\n165683\t191718\t所以這一部分如何落實最重要嘛對不對我就舉一個例子以現在我們一般國人最有感的是什麼我們連LINE的詐騙我們都不知道該怎麼辦我們詐騙手法不斷的變形更新現在最近將近以媒體我看到的數字包括我在基層走訪連我自己身邊的親人也一樣都是透過LINE群組\n192859\t215394\t八成以上LINE的帳號被盜變成了詐騙集團的工具那所以LINE盜用三大陷阱帳號釣魚小朋友參加繪圖繪畫比賽你可不可以幫忙按一下投一票嗎我們這個社區參加這個計畫的評比你可不可以幫我們按個讚然後幫我們怎麼樣怎麼樣這是一個帳號釣魚第二個電話號碼盜用\n221157\t236532\t盜用的這個電話號碼跟簡訊的認證碼那事實上不是他第三個手法電腦版的盜用要你去掃那個假的QR code那這些都是很新的詐騙手法而且是現在正在進行中\n238907\t256202\t現在正在進行中包括我們政府官員包括我聽說連我們之前的這個中央政府的政務委員他可能他的帳號都被盜用還可以跟你LINE一下說好久不見你要是聽到有人LINE給你說好久不見接下來可能說他家發生什麼事要借錢\n257791\t277081\tLINE的帳號被盜用那我要告訴你現在LINE的帳號被盜用之後呢民眾報警也沒用欸只能等為什麼我就要請部長幫幫忙你又跟我說這是警政署的事跟我沒有關係警政署告訴我們這八成以上的這個整個LINE的帳號被盜的一個詐騙型態\n279403\t290139\tLINE平台的配合態度消極我用實際的案例有一個來跟我陳情的他的LINE帳號被盜第一個他找不到真人客服\n291223\t308938\t第二個呢 他傳了這個LINE的官方的問題反應表通報了但是很抱歉客服只在24小時你回覆收到收到了之後呢 很抱歉你可能還要再等個三天五天一個禮拜等到LINE到底能不能給你處理這個假帳號的問題\n313066\t336132\t部長我可不可以請你啊可不可以再跟這個平台聊聊天喝咖啡聊一下好不好可不可以讓他們的態度積極一點然後呢讓國人有感我已經被詐騙了我被這個LINE的假帳號詐騙我都已經很不準了而且我還心急如焚啊我去報警也沒用啊\n337884\t361920\t我去報警也沒用啊報告委員 我們的確這是一個問題我們也跟警政署有討論那我們也正在積極跟NINE溝通那這個是不是可以請負財署說明一下來 請說謝謝委員關心這個議題那這個議題我想我們也很關心昨天晚上跟日本的NINE公司開會開到晚上7點多那這個檢警調都有參加那委員關心的客戶問題NINE也嘗試在決定現在從一個禮拜\n365302\t381710\t100筆提升到200筆的處理的然後教業的這個流程也是在優化當中所以我們會定期開會來協助民眾解決這個問題拜託啦 跟平台多溝通啦處理的案件量可以再更有效率而且再更簡化優化他的流程啦不然這樣子讓我們的國人\n386132\t405137\t等等等到第一個報警也沒用第二個他等三天五天等一個禮拜他的這個時間差可能他的LINE的假帳號還不斷的在詐騙其他國人那這個東西事情就像滾雪球般的越滾越大那被詐騙的金額就越來越多你知道嗎所以剛剛\n406577\t426444\t其他委員在關心不是只有我們國人一般人這樣被詐騙我們現在更擔憂的是什麼很多的國際型的駭客組織鎖定台灣在做網路攻擊剛剛有講到醫療體系很多家的醫院也有很多家的產業\n427924\t441835\t公司企業那這個已經是有系統性的在攻擊在勒索或者是在其他的這個我們的各自的外洩變成是這個不同的應用方式而且這個是違法的應用\n443394\t470611\t那這個我覺得在源頭如果說在資安的部分我們速發部沒有提供資源能夠積極的去協助這些醫療院所或是協助這些產業企業那後端就衍生出很多的一個違法的應用那傷及到我們國人的權利跟他可能未來會被詐騙的可能性就會提高部長\n471751\t494240\t所以呢你剛剛其他委員問你都沒有回答那這麼多家的醫療院所被勒索被攻擊那我們做了什麼那第二個那有些產業企業界我們現在法律規定上市櫃公司要有資安長那如果他不是上市櫃公司的話他被勒索他被這個攻擊那又該怎麼辦\n495646\t514780\t那個報告委員我們遇到這種事情第一時間我們都有請治安院去協助所以事實上是有進去協助那當然就是說未來我覺得更重要是從源頭就是說希望將來我們有更多的因為法規依據我們可以對這些這個重要的這個不管是醫院或是這些公司做治安的演練跟集合確認\n516021\t531412\t不會有這樣的一個漏洞那這才是一個最主要的所以我想資安法的修法對我們未來整個國家資安防護讓我們有權力去要求研練跟執行之後還有資安事件的通報等等等要整個大家一起公私協力把這個做好\n532613\t545389\t我具體的要求部長啦我們速發部可不可以在兩個禮拜之內針對這種系統性的不管是醫療體系的供給或者是我們的產業公司行號的這個供給\n547031\t574857\t我們除了接收到這個主管機關的一個通報第一個通報的機制要優化要有效率要快速第二個通報之後你們不管是我們訴發部的團隊或者是治安院的人你要給我們一個具體的一個簡化的流程還有你們提供的資源怎麼去做有具體的做法你這個要先公開透明讓國人知道讓產業界知道讓醫療系統知道\n576977\t594480\t台會知道說原來我們政府是真的有系統性有步驟性而且是有方法有技術有資源的在支援他們啦好不好兩個禮拜內我也希望看得到這個具體的一個那個機制我要的是機制好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝趙偉 許趙偉我們是不是請這個黃部長請部長部長好那同樣我們也在關心數位發展部有關今天這個治安法要修法那我先關心的有兩件事第一件事我想及時新聞大家部長應該有注意到這個面對數位的威脅那美國的這個聯邦政府國務院現在打算改\n改變他的組織啦 改造他的組織啦所以他的數位治理呢將要設一個新興威脅住親專設AI還有網路安全的事務啦那包括南韓也在動員國家的一個這個網路的防禦力量那所以我也知道呢這個\n我們賴總統他也在最近一直以來在宣示對於這個資安國家隊的一個組成還有對於台灣的資安的風險我們如何的來提升這個不是只有在政府單位包括民間產業面那怎麼去強化社會的一個資安防禦韌性還有\n資安的產業的生態系要能夠的健全那如何建築新興科技的防禦技術等等我想這些都是我們數位發展部國人對你們的重大的期許包括總統跟行政院對數位發展部也有很多的任務交付那以賴總統他有提出這個因應關威脅等等包括防\n防止網路供給強化資安等等剛剛其他委員很關心這個事情那我們速發部目前的行動檢要重點\n那個就像委員這邊簡報講我們大概就是這個有三個方向目標正在做嘛一個就是但是治安法是一個最基礎我們希望能夠很快通過之後再來就是說怎麼樣強化這個落實這個治安法的執行包括全社會防禦任性還有我們要讓我們帶我們治安產業能夠在這過程中讓我們才能夠成長甚至部長我想以剛剛其他委員的發言跟我們班長級委員的發言大家對治安法的修法\n都支持但是呢法修過的時候真正重要讓國人有感的是什麼是落實你剛剛講到重點如何落實我們如何強化資安維護國安那強化資安公私協力如何打擊詐騙安我們國家的安全也要安人民國人的信心跟他的財產安全\n所以這一部分如何落實最重要嘛對不對我就舉一個例子以現在我們一般國人最有感的是什麼我們連LINE的詐騙我們都不知道該怎麼辦我們詐騙手法不斷的變形更新現在最近將近以媒體我看到的數字包括我在基層走訪連我自己身邊的親人也一樣都是透過LINE群組\n八成以上LINE的帳號被盜變成了詐騙集團的工具那所以LINE盜用三大陷阱帳號釣魚小朋友參加繪圖繪畫比賽你可不可以幫忙按一下投一票嗎我們這個社區參加這個計畫的評比你可不可以幫我們按個讚然後幫我們怎麼樣怎麼樣這是一個帳號釣魚第二個電話號碼盜用\n盜用的這個電話號碼跟簡訊的認證碼那事實上不是他第三個手法電腦版的盜用要你去掃那個假的QR code那這些都是很新的詐騙手法而且是現在正在進行中\n現在正在進行中包括我們政府官員包括我聽說連我們之前的這個中央政府的政務委員他可能他的帳號都被盜用還可以跟你LINE一下說好久不見你要是聽到有人LINE給你說好久不見接下來可能說他家發生什麼事要借錢\nLINE的帳號被盜用那我要告訴你現在LINE的帳號被盜用之後呢民眾報警也沒用欸只能等為什麼我就要請部長幫幫忙你又跟我說這是警政署的事跟我沒有關係警政署告訴我們這八成以上的這個整個LINE的帳號被盜的一個詐騙型態\nLINE平台的配合態度消極我用實際的案例有一個來跟我陳情的他的LINE帳號被盜第一個他找不到真人客服\n第二個呢 他傳了這個LINE的官方的問題反應表通報了但是很抱歉客服只在24小時你回覆收到收到了之後呢 很抱歉你可能還要再等個三天五天一個禮拜等到LINE到底能不能給你處理這個假帳號的問題\n部長我可不可以請你啊可不可以再跟這個平台聊聊天喝咖啡聊一下好不好可不可以讓他們的態度積極一點然後呢讓國人有感我已經被詐騙了我被這個LINE的假帳號詐騙我都已經很不準了而且我還心急如焚啊我去報警也沒用啊\n我去報警也沒用啊報告委員 我們的確這是一個問題我們也跟警政署有討論那我們也正在積極跟NINE溝通那這個是不是可以請負財署說明一下來 請說謝謝委員關心這個議題那這個議題我想我們也很關心昨天晚上跟日本的NINE公司開會開到晚上7點多那這個檢警調都有參加那委員關心的客戶問題NINE也嘗試在決定現在從一個禮拜\n100筆提升到200筆的處理的然後教業的這個流程也是在優化當中所以我們會定期開會來協助民眾解決這個問題拜託啦 跟平台多溝通啦處理的案件量可以再更有效率而且再更簡化優化他的流程啦不然這樣子讓我們的國人\n等等等到第一個報警也沒用第二個他等三天五天等一個禮拜他的這個時間差可能他的LINE的假帳號還不斷的在詐騙其他國人那這個東西事情就像滾雪球般的越滾越大那被詐騙的金額就越來越多你知道嗎所以剛剛\n其他委員在關心不是只有我們國人一般人這樣被詐騙我們現在更擔憂的是什麼很多的國際型的駭客組織鎖定台灣在做網路攻擊剛剛有講到醫療體系很多家的醫院也有很多家的產業\n公司企業那這個已經是有系統性的在攻擊在勒索或者是在其他的這個我們的各自的外洩變成是這個不同的應用方式而且這個是違法的應用\n那這個我覺得在源頭如果說在資安的部分我們速發部沒有提供資源能夠積極的去協助這些醫療院所或是協助這些產業企業那後端就衍生出很多的一個違法的應用那傷及到我們國人的權利跟他可能未來會被詐騙的可能性就會提高部長\n所以呢你剛剛其他委員問你都沒有回答那這麼多家的醫療院所被勒索被攻擊那我們做了什麼那第二個那有些產業企業界我們現在法律規定上市櫃公司要有資安長那如果他不是上市櫃公司的話他被勒索他被這個攻擊那又該怎麼辦\n那個報告委員我們遇到這種事情第一時間我們都有請治安院去協助所以事實上是有進去協助那當然就是說未來我覺得更重要是從源頭就是說希望將來我們有更多的因為法規依據我們可以對這些這個重要的這個不管是醫院或是這些公司做治安的演練跟集合確認\n不會有這樣的一個漏洞那這才是一個最主要的所以我想資安法的修法對我們未來整個國家資安防護讓我們有權力去要求研練跟執行之後還有資安事件的通報等等等要整個大家一起公私協力把這個做好\n我具體的要求部長啦我們速發部可不可以在兩個禮拜之內針對這種系統性的不管是醫療體系的供給或者是我們的產業公司行號的這個供給\n我們除了接收到這個主管機關的一個通報第一個通報的機制要優化要有效率要快速第二個通報之後你們不管是我們訴發部的團隊或者是治安院的人你要給我們一個具體的一個簡化的流程還有你們提供的資源怎麼去做有具體的做法你這個要先公開透明讓國人知道讓產業界知道讓醫療系統知道\n台會知道說原來我們政府是真的有系統性有步驟性而且是有方法有技術有資源的在支援他們啦好不好兩個禮拜內我也希望看得到這個具體的一個那個機制我要的是機制好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.225 --> 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