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00:01:52,224\n极为危险的情况简单来说你们认为台湾的核电厂是安全的吗如果核安会认为核电厂有安全疑虑的话核安会一定会下令停机检查\n\n6\n00:01:52,825 --> 00:02:13,331\n是好那停機檢查之後就還是可以運轉嘛所以簡單來說就是民進黨口口聲聲說核電廠不安全的這樣子的一個說法從數據上面來看從核安會過去的依法行政執行的安全檢查來看基本上就是一個錯誤的說法台灣的核電廠是安全的說法到現在\n\n7\n00:02:18,649 --> 00:02:23,737\n台湾的核电厂是经过团会的跟以前原灯会的\n\n8\n00:02:25,185 --> 00:02:54,291\n严厉监督之下我们是可以达到安全的要求好很好那么我们知道其实现在有关于这个立法院正在讨论核电厂研疫条例的相关的修法那我们也看到就是其他的国家不管是美国日本还有更多的国家其实对于核电厂的研疫早就已经开始在做了像美国那么甚至就是已经以20年为单位可以陆续的向后研疫那么日本呢\n\n9\n00:02:54,631 --> 00:03:21,303\n也是已经批准了多座的机组可以延长运转到60年请问主委如果说我们台湾的核电厂研译再研一个10年20年您认为安全上面会有疑虑吗就要经过评估才知道那么请问何安慧现在有没有开始做核电厂研译之后的安全技术标准的相关研译\n\n10\n00:03:22,281 --> 00:03:38,816\n河安會有我們的研議的評估標準所以對於現在我們的核電廠研議有可能研議那麼這個對於這個台電如果有提出研議申請那麼河安會這邊已經準備好了相關的安全技術評估標準嗎\n\n11\n00:03:42,337 --> 00:04:09,699\n台電在以前提出核電廠研議的申請當時我們就已經審查的差不多了什麼時候提出過核電廠研議的申請98年98年的時候曾經有提出過所以那時候核安會就已經做過相關的安全技術標準的制定是不是你們已經有提有一套安全檢查的標準\n\n12\n00:04:10,689 --> 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