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00:02:14,254\n因應產品的清單內地但我們分林可以說是台灣中最多在這也感謝我們姑娘帶著她的手去到我們分林做一個行業業者做一個座談會還有一些因應措施也有跟他們說完我希望我們可以想更好的來看總統隨時來應變最好的應變措施\n\n7\n00:02:26,643 --> 00:02:39,200\n我跟委員報告,我們現在削除一些方案的部分,隨時都會滾動的檢討,就是說跟農民的座談,我們也會持續去做,如果說有一些更好的建議,值得我們納入的,我們會隨時滾動檢討\n\n8\n00:02:40,922 --> 00:02:46,788\n好,感謝,感謝國長。在這裡可能有多少的影響,再來要面對的,就是我們這個談判的一個問題。我們台灣雖然是沒有當地區的優先談判的名單裡面,所來可能要面對的就是我們的三頁管道題。\n\n9\n00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,761\n會遭到高關稅的衝擊很多人都在問我們政府能否對於美國零關稅做條件這有可能會讓人擔心我們對於美國零關稅會影響到農業的發展會發生到極大的傷害\n\n10\n00:03:22,006 --> 00:03:27,269\n這次剛好接觸到這次的主席阿航英中韓國中最後要來討論一下未來五輪怎麼回事\n\n11\n00:03:33,007 --> 00:03:45,452\n全民零關稅對我們六四的這個犧牲額和擁殖額會有最大的影響請我們議長跟我們國長可以高情,我們來犧牲我們的農業,這樣好不好?委員報告,美國所謂第一波的談判國家不是只有一個國家\n\n12\n00:03:52,475 --> 00:04:06,768\n有很多國家都在第一個行列當中我相信我們有辦法我們就是在這個行列當中第一波的行列當中我現在的意思是說不要去影響到我們的這個黨派的規定中間總統一直有支持跟堅持都於優先都欺民的權利一定要盡最大的能力來保護這個一定是國家最大的要求\n\n13\n00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:37,573\n東方,去到美國東方的立軍,他們對著他們的農業,是都非常堅持的過後啦,所以希望說我們中華民國也是一樣,可以對著我們農業、我們的企業的這個過程,一樣可以堅持來跟他們過後。不斷對農業還是農業一些,尤其是民間的幸福,我們一定會做很大的堅持。好,感謝議長。\n\n14\n00:04:46,783 --> 00:04:49,784\n當我們剛才在討論我們要關注國內關稅的危機,我們需要特別醫生來處理。我在這裏也要說,做到這次的手術,\n\n15\n00:05:02,548 --> 00:05:14,235\n農業局當今年的醫生的帖子看要怎樣來廣播照顧我們的農民我們今年的這個醫生農業局是一千六百九十多億今年是一千六百九十二億以台幣二十億變成一千九百七十二億一千九百四十二億七十二億七十二億我們這樣計劃這個\n\n16\n00:05:29,420 --> 00:05:40,028\n我們假日23日,不過我跟委員報告,我們假日的一些經費是要做更多事情的我跟委員報告,23日裡面,有57個是我們撥補我們的基金我們的基金包括我們的一些產銷調節的基金包括一些肥料補助的經費,包括一些我們對地綠色給付的\n\n17\n00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:16,004\n這個保溫都是由公務來撥補到基金的部分所以這個保溫本來我們有計差不多八十億現在因為被刪掉二十億以後就變成在資金上面來講就會比較困擾剛剛有刪掉到二十億二十億刪了二十億有刪掉到二十億對不過我的資料是沒有我的資料是20.14億沒關係不管刪多少\n\n18\n00:06:23,732 --> 00:06:31,297\n我也希望中央政府可以好好來照顧貴姓照顧農民我們農業部份的政府經營我們這個工量收購我們跟議長跟國長也在這裡討論幾次我們國長貴姓多少是提高1.5塊台幣3.5塊是5塊你們知道這1.5塊增加到我們政府多少的經費\n\n19\n00:06:55,324 --> 00:07:11,399\n我們的糧食產業的升級大概是花了大概是六十四億左右因為我們的整個方案不是只有照顧到高供應的農民也照顧到沒有高供應的農民還有轉做的一些雜糧的農民\n\n20\n00:07:15,042 --> 00:07:24,387\n現在農民都加起來他要照顧的人數差不多35萬人比我們本來在設計委員會建議的設計差不多20萬人左右所以我們有多一點的方向去跟農民照顧\n\n21\n00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:42,065\n我希望我們可以同樣演繹到我們台肥的通過這個國庫的風雲我們繼續努力因為我們給1.5塊,只有這個1.5塊我們當工人收購都要給1.5塊而已\n\n22\n00:07:52,952 --> 00:08:01,416\n多一個背影你多一個背影我們鄉下農民大家他們有享受到政府對他們的照顧但是這對我們來說我們農業大館來說這一點一定有塊是明顯比較好做我希望說過後你能夠繼續向國庫這個風向繼續來推動\n\n23\n00:08:16,784 --> 00:08:23,975\n法國委員報告,我們現在實行的糧食產業升級的方案裡面,我們現在的主要的面積,高供應的,有變少\n\n24\n00:08:26,755 --> 00:08:49,139\n去做雜糧的變稅,沒高供牛去做集團產區的變稅表示說我們的政策是正確的表示說你本來在高供牛的人你應該因為你專做集團產區的時候可以讓他的收益會更好所以我們現在預計還會持續的照這樣的方向去推\n\n25\n00:08:51,970 --> 00:09:05,364\n剛才補充說的那個集團的股份,有集團式的方式下去執行這個共同責任,我們那裡都是大在競爭的,你說集團這個,他們比較不會受的\n\n26\n00:09:09,068 --> 00:09:27,477\n對啦他們比較不會你要用比較常態化他們有辦法就是說對我們政府的政治經驗的方式我們特別知道我知道我今天訓練地區一直有專案的人去輔導如果說農民他沒有了解說什麼人可以跟他接受我們都會做一些媒合啦\n\n27\n00:09:27,977 --> 00:09:31,742\n隨時如果需要我們農業局繼續合作的部分我拜託農業局要繼續繼續幫我們農業局再幫我們倒三天對啦我們會叫我們的議員下去做\n\n28\n00:09:40,219 --> 00:09:55,332\n好,這樣再做一個問題就是我們的山坑,我們本年沿海這裡有很多的企鵝仔,企鵝仔的養殖業,我們企鵝仔的時段,年紀都比較多,有時候卡手,如果遇到忘記修繩的時候,人手比較有效,要申請他的外勞,\n\n29\n00:10:07,001 --> 00:10:08,202\n我們現在農業的外來大概有兩萬人\n\n30\n00:10:30,257 --> 00:10:41,367\n剛才你講的這個所有的這些養殖或者是捕撈漁業的話就要漁船證的部分那你剛才講到一個重點就是說我們養科的部分有一些\n\n31\n00:10:43,728 --> 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跟國長也在這裡討論幾次我們國長貴姓多少是提高1.5塊台幣3.5塊是5塊你們知道這1.5塊增加到我們政府多少的經費\n415324\t431399\t我們的糧食產業的升級大概是花了大概是六十四億左右因為我們的整個方案不是只有照顧到高供應的農民也照顧到沒有高供應的農民還有轉做的一些雜糧的農民\n435042\t444387\t現在農民都加起來他要照顧的人數差不多35萬人比我們本來在設計委員會建議的設計差不多20萬人左右所以我們有多一點的方向去跟農民照顧\n453100\t462065\t我希望我們可以同樣演繹到我們台肥的通過這個國庫的風雲我們繼續努力因為我們給1.5塊,只有這個1.5塊我們當工人收購都要給1.5塊而已\n472952\t481416\t多一個背影你多一個背影我們鄉下農民大家他們有享受到政府對他們的照顧但是這對我們來說我們農業大館來說這一點一定有塊是明顯比較好做我希望說過後你能夠繼續向國庫這個風向繼續來推動\n496784\t503975\t法國委員報告,我們現在實行的糧食產業升級的方案裡面,我們現在的主要的面積,高供應的,有變少\n506755\t529139\t去做雜糧的變稅,沒高供牛去做集團產區的變稅表示說我們的政策是正確的表示說你本來在高供牛的人你應該因為你專做集團產區的時候可以讓他的收益會更好所以我們現在預計還會持續的照這樣的方向去推\n531970\t545364\t剛才補充說的那個集團的股份,有集團式的方式下去執行這個共同責任,我們那裡都是大在競爭的,你說集團這個,他們比較不會受的\n549068\t567477\t對啦 他們比較不會 你要用比較常態化他們有辦法 就是說對我們政府的政治經驗的方式我們特別知道 我知道我今天訓練地區一直有專案的人去輔導如果說農民 他沒有了解說什麼人可以跟他接受我們都會做一些媒合啦\n567977\t571742\t隨時如果需要我們農業局繼續合作的部分我拜託農業局要繼續繼續幫我們農業局 再幫我們倒三天對啦 我們會叫我們的議員下去做\n580219\t595332\t好,這樣再做一個問題就是我們的山坑,我們本年沿海這裡有很多的企鵝仔,企鵝仔的養殖業,我們企鵝仔的時段,年紀都比較多,有時候卡手,如果遇到忘記修繩的時候,人手比較有效,要申請他的外勞,\n607001\t608202\t我們現在農業的外來大概有兩萬人\n630257\t641367\t剛才你講的這個所有的這些養殖或者是捕撈漁業的話就要漁船證的部分那你剛才講到一個重點就是說我們養科的部分有一些\n643728\t660374\t這個部分我有請我們的漁業署去評估但是相對的就是我們要請外勞的時候不是說請了以後就不管他你必須提供他的吃住的部分還有管理的部分我們現在用一個外展的移工來協助\n662114\t687390\t就是由農會或漁會齁他能夠雇用一些外籍移工如果你需要的時候他那個需要也不是每天都需要當你需要的時候用這樣的方式去支援的方式也能夠部分的解決他這樣的問題我看到這樣下去執行下去幫人家倒三天這也是很好的一個方式啦我們沿海有很多真的都比較適合這個角度因為真的年輕人比較不會教我們這個農藝術的這個\n691653\t691673\t謝謝委員\n","txt":"感謝韓院長請卓院長以及永恩城副長麻煩請卓院長農業部備詢應委員好院長好副長好\n當前兩年以來,我們這個美國政府對我們台灣的關稅提高到30%雖然暫緩90天,對我們台灣未來的發展可能要應用很大也把外散戶的農業運動都去抓到了我們台灣的農業運動有很大的衝擊,我們的政府有相當的應應對策\n我們對三鴨的支持放在地裡,所以我們提出九大面向二十項措施,就是想讓我們的三鴨可以安心,這個對不管是港鴨還是農鴨,我們都涵蓋在裡面,所以就是我們準備要淡泡的內容,那個方案準備好事,現在隨時,我們相逢時間說好事,馬上就啟動這個地理署的正式回答。\n感謝議長,現在這個關稅的基石暫緩了,而美國關稅的政策,我們都無法去預料,有可能三天一休券,五天一大券,我們都無法放心,如果未來對美國出口的農產品,\n維持這個高關稅,希望英國和國中,可以更加完整的主管和協助我們的農業商品,可以度過這個難關。對於我們這個美國的農產品來講,我們農業國有做\n因應產品的清單內地但我們分林可以說是台灣中最多在這也感謝我們姑娘帶著她的手去到我們分林做一個行業業者做一個座談會還有一些因應措施也有跟他們說完我希望我們可以想更好的來看總統隨時來應變最好的應變措施\n我跟委員報告,我們現在削除一些方案的部分,隨時都會滾動的檢討,就是說跟農民的座談,我們也會持續去做,如果說有一些更好的建議,值得我們納入的,我們會隨時滾動檢討\n好,感謝,感謝國長。在這裡可能有多少的影響,再來要面對的,就是我們這個談判的一個問題。我們台灣雖然是沒有當地區的優先談判的名單裡面,所來可能要面對的就是我們的三頁管道題。\n會遭到高關稅的衝擊 很多人都在問我們政府能否對於美國零關稅做條件這有可能會讓人擔心我們對於美國零關稅會影響到農業的發展會發生到極大的傷害\n這次剛好接觸到這次的主席 阿航 英中 韓國中 最後要來討論一下未來五輪 怎麼回事\n全民零關稅對我們六四的這個犧牲額和擁殖額會有最大的影響請我們議長跟我們國長可以高情,我們來犧牲我們的農業,這樣好不好?委員報告,美國所謂第一波的談判國家不是只有一個國家\n有很多國家都在第一個行列當中我相信我們有辦法我們就是在這個行列當中第一波的行列當中我現在的意思是說不要去影響到我們的這個黨派的規定中間總統一直有支持跟堅持都於優先都欺民的權利一定要盡最大的能力來保護這個一定是國家最大的要求\n東方,去到美國東方的立軍,他們對著他們的農業,是都非常堅持的過後啦,所以希望說我們中華民國也是一樣,可以對著我們農業、我們的企業的這個過程,一樣可以堅持來跟他們過後。不斷對農業還是農業一些,尤其是民間的幸福,我們一定會做很大的堅持。好,感謝議長。\n當我們剛才在討論我們要關注國內關稅的危機,我們需要特別醫生來處理。我在這裏也要說,做到這次的手術,\n農業局當今年的醫生的帖子看要怎樣來廣播照顧我們的農民我們今年的這個醫生農業局是一千六百九十多億今年是一千六百九十二億以台幣二十億變成一千九百七十二億一千九百四十二億七十二億七十二億我們這樣計劃這個\n我們假日23日,不過我跟委員報告,我們假日的一些經費是要做更多事情的我跟委員報告,23日裡面,有57個是我們撥補我們的基金我們的基金包括我們的一些產銷調節的基金包括一些肥料補助的經費,包括一些我們對地綠色給付的\n這個保溫都是由公務來撥補到基金的部分所以這個保溫本來我們有計差不多八十億現在因為被刪掉二十億以後就變成在資金上面來講就會比較困擾剛剛有刪掉到二十億二十億 刪了二十億有刪掉到二十億 對不過我的資料是沒有我的資料是20.14億沒關係 不管刪多少\n我也希望中央政府可以好好來照顧貴姓 照顧農民我們農業部份的政府經營我們這個工量 收購我們跟議長 跟國長也在這裡討論幾次我們國長貴姓多少是提高1.5塊台幣3.5塊是5塊你們知道這1.5塊增加到我們政府多少的經費\n我們的糧食產業的升級大概是花了大概是六十四億左右因為我們的整個方案不是只有照顧到高供應的農民也照顧到沒有高供應的農民還有轉做的一些雜糧的農民\n現在農民都加起來他要照顧的人數差不多35萬人比我們本來在設計委員會建議的設計差不多20萬人左右所以我們有多一點的方向去跟農民照顧\n我希望我們可以同樣演繹到我們台肥的通過這個國庫的風雲我們繼續努力因為我們給1.5塊,只有這個1.5塊我們當工人收購都要給1.5塊而已\n多一個背影你多一個背影我們鄉下農民大家他們有享受到政府對他們的照顧但是這對我們來說我們農業大館來說這一點一定有塊是明顯比較好做我希望說過後你能夠繼續向國庫這個風向繼續來推動\n法國委員報告,我們現在實行的糧食產業升級的方案裡面,我們現在的主要的面積,高供應的,有變少\n去做雜糧的變稅,沒高供牛去做集團產區的變稅表示說我們的政策是正確的表示說你本來在高供牛的人你應該因為你專做集團產區的時候可以讓他的收益會更好所以我們現在預計還會持續的照這樣的方向去推\n剛才補充說的那個集團的股份,有集團式的方式下去執行這個共同責任,我們那裡都是大在競爭的,你說集團這個,他們比較不會受的\n對啦 他們比較不會 你要用比較常態化他們有辦法 就是說對我們政府的政治經驗的方式我們特別知道 我知道我今天訓練地區一直有專案的人去輔導如果說農民 他沒有了解說什麼人可以跟他接受我們都會做一些媒合啦\n隨時如果需要我們農業局繼續合作的部分我拜託農業局要繼續繼續幫我們農業局 再幫我們倒三天對啦 我們會叫我們的議員下去做\n好,這樣再做一個問題就是我們的山坑,我們本年沿海這裡有很多的企鵝仔,企鵝仔的養殖業,我們企鵝仔的時段,年紀都比較多,有時候卡手,如果遇到忘記修繩的時候,人手比較有效,要申請他的外勞,\n我們現在農業的外來大概有兩萬人\n剛才你講的這個所有的這些養殖或者是捕撈漁業的話就要漁船證的部分那你剛才講到一個重點就是說我們養科的部分有一些\n這個部分我有請我們的漁業署去評估但是相對的就是我們要請外勞的時候不是說請了以後就不管他你必須提供他的吃住的部分還有管理的部分我們現在用一個外展的移工來協助\n就是由農會或漁會齁他能夠雇用一些外籍移工如果你需要的時候他那個需要也不是每天都需要當你需要的時候用這樣的方式去支援的方式也能夠部分的解決他這樣的問題我看到這樣下去執行下去幫人家倒三天這也是很好的一個方式啦我們沿海有很多真的都比較適合這個角度因為真的年輕人比較不會教我們這個農藝術的這個\n謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.506 --> 00:13.111\n感謝韓院長請卓院長以及永恩城副長麻煩請卓院長農業部備詢應委員好院長好副長好\n\n00:29.588 --> 00:38.576\n當前兩年以來,我們這個美國政府對我們台灣的關稅提高到30%雖然暫緩90天,對我們台灣未來的發展可能要應用很大也把外散戶的農業運動都去抓到了我們台灣的農業運動有很大的衝擊,我們的政府有相當的應應對策\n\n00:55.680 --> 01:17.630\n我們對三鴨的支持放在地裡,所以我們提出九大面向二十項措施,就是想讓我們的三鴨可以安心,這個對不管是港鴨還是農鴨,我們都涵蓋在裡面,所以就是我們準備要淡泡的內容,那個方案準備好事,現在隨時,我們相逢時間說好事,馬上就啟動這個地理署的正式回答。\n\n01:18.561 --> 01:26.949\n感謝議長,現在這個關稅的基石暫緩了,而美國關稅的政策,我們都無法去預料,有可能三天一休券,五天一大券,我們都無法放心,如果未來對美國出口的農產品,\n\n01:38.619 --> 01:48.031\n維持這個高關稅,希望英國和國中,可以更加完整的主管和協助我們的農業商品,可以度過這個難關。對於我們這個美國的農產品來講,我們農業國有做\n\n01:56.901 --> 02:14.254\n因應產品的清單內地但我們分林可以說是台灣中最多在這也感謝我們姑娘帶著她的手去到我們分林做一個行業業者做一個座談會還有一些因應措施也有跟他們說完我希望我們可以想更好的來看總統隨時來應變最好的應變措施\n\n02:26.643 --> 02:39.200\n我跟委員報告,我們現在削除一些方案的部分,隨時都會滾動的檢討,就是說跟農民的座談,我們也會持續去做,如果說有一些更好的建議,值得我們納入的,我們會隨時滾動檢討\n\n02:40.922 --> 02:46.788\n好,感謝,感謝國長。在這裡可能有多少的影響,再來要面對的,就是我們這個談判的一個問題。我們台灣雖然是沒有當地區的優先談判的名單裡面,所來可能要面對的就是我們的三頁管道題。\n\n03:00.480 --> 03:04.761\n會遭到高關稅的衝擊很多人都在問我們政府能否對於美國零關稅做條件這有可能會讓人擔心我們對於美國零關稅會影響到農業的發展會發生到極大的傷害\n\n03:22.006 --> 03:27.269\n這次剛好接觸到這次的主席阿航英中韓國中最後要來討論一下未來五輪怎麼回事\n\n03:33.007 --> 03:45.452\n全民零關稅對我們六四的這個犧牲額和擁殖額會有最大的影響請我們議長跟我們國長可以高情,我們來犧牲我們的農業,這樣好不好?委員報告,美國所謂第一波的談判國家不是只有一個國家\n\n03:52.475 --> 04:06.768\n有很多國家都在第一個行列當中我相信我們有辦法我們就是在這個行列當中第一波的行列當中我現在的意思是說不要去影響到我們的這個黨派的規定中間總統一直有支持跟堅持都於優先都欺民的權利一定要盡最大的能力來保護這個一定是國家最大的要求\n\n04:20.980 --> 04:37.573\n東方,去到美國東方的立軍,他們對著他們的農業,是都非常堅持的過後啦,所以希望說我們中華民國也是一樣,可以對著我們農業、我們的企業的這個過程,一樣可以堅持來跟他們過後。不斷對農業還是農業一些,尤其是民間的幸福,我們一定會做很大的堅持。好,感謝議長。\n\n04:46.783 --> 04:49.784\n當我們剛才在討論我們要關注國內關稅的危機,我們需要特別醫生來處理。我在這裏也要說,做到這次的手術,\n\n05:02.548 --> 05:14.235\n農業局當今年的醫生的帖子看要怎樣來廣播照顧我們的農民我們今年的這個醫生農業局是一千六百九十多億今年是一千六百九十二億以台幣二十億變成一千九百七十二億一千九百四十二億七十二億七十二億我們這樣計劃這個\n\n05:29.420 --> 05:40.028\n我們假日23日,不過我跟委員報告,我們假日的一些經費是要做更多事情的我跟委員報告,23日裡面,有57個是我們撥補我們的基金我們的基金包括我們的一些產銷調節的基金包括一些肥料補助的經費,包括一些我們對地綠色給付的\n\n05:55.199 --> 06:16.004\n這個保溫都是由公務來撥補到基金的部分所以這個保溫本來我們有計差不多八十億現在因為被刪掉二十億以後就變成在資金上面來講就會比較困擾剛剛有刪掉到二十億二十億刪了二十億有刪掉到二十億對不過我的資料是沒有我的資料是20.14億沒關係不管刪多少\n\n06:23.732 --> 06:31.297\n我也希望中央政府可以好好來照顧貴姓照顧農民我們農業部份的政府經營我們這個工量收購我們跟議長跟國長也在這裡討論幾次我們國長貴姓多少是提高1.5塊台幣3.5塊是5塊你們知道這1.5塊增加到我們政府多少的經費\n\n06:55.324 --> 07:11.399\n我們的糧食產業的升級大概是花了大概是六十四億左右因為我們的整個方案不是只有照顧到高供應的農民也照顧到沒有高供應的農民還有轉做的一些雜糧的農民\n\n07:15.042 --> 07:24.387\n現在農民都加起來他要照顧的人數差不多35萬人比我們本來在設計委員會建議的設計差不多20萬人左右所以我們有多一點的方向去跟農民照顧\n\n07:33.100 --> 07:42.065\n我希望我們可以同樣演繹到我們台肥的通過這個國庫的風雲我們繼續努力因為我們給1.5塊,只有這個1.5塊我們當工人收購都要給1.5塊而已\n\n07:52.952 --> 08:01.416\n多一個背影你多一個背影我們鄉下農民大家他們有享受到政府對他們的照顧但是這對我們來說我們農業大館來說這一點一定有塊是明顯比較好做我希望說過後你能夠繼續向國庫這個風向繼續來推動\n\n08:16.784 --> 08:23.975\n法國委員報告,我們現在實行的糧食產業升級的方案裡面,我們現在的主要的面積,高供應的,有變少\n\n08:26.755 --> 08:49.139\n去做雜糧的變稅,沒高供牛去做集團產區的變稅表示說我們的政策是正確的表示說你本來在高供牛的人你應該因為你專做集團產區的時候可以讓他的收益會更好所以我們現在預計還會持續的照這樣的方向去推\n\n08:51.970 --> 09:05.364\n剛才補充說的那個集團的股份,有集團式的方式下去執行這個共同責任,我們那裡都是大在競爭的,你說集團這個,他們比較不會受的\n\n09:09.068 --> 09:27.477\n對啦他們比較不會你要用比較常態化他們有辦法就是說對我們政府的政治經驗的方式我們特別知道我知道我今天訓練地區一直有專案的人去輔導如果說農民他沒有了解說什麼人可以跟他接受我們都會做一些媒合啦\n\n09:27.977 --> 09:31.742\n隨時如果需要我們農業局繼續合作的部分我拜託農業局要繼續繼續幫我們農業局再幫我們倒三天對啦我們會叫我們的議員下去做\n\n09:40.219 --> 09:55.332\n好,這樣再做一個問題就是我們的山坑,我們本年沿海這裡有很多的企鵝仔,企鵝仔的養殖業,我們企鵝仔的時段,年紀都比較多,有時候卡手,如果遇到忘記修繩的時候,人手比較有效,要申請他的外勞,\n\n10:07.001 --> 10:08.202\n我們現在農業的外來大概有兩萬人\n\n10:30.257 --> 10:41.367\n剛才你講的這個所有的這些養殖或者是捕撈漁業的話就要漁船證的部分那你剛才講到一個重點就是說我們養科的部分有一些\n\n10:43.728 --> 11:00.374\n這個部分我有請我們的漁業署去評估但是相對的就是我們要請外勞的時候不是說請了以後就不管他你必須提供他的吃住的部分還有管理的部分我們現在用一個外展的移工來協助\n\n11:02.114 --> 11:27.390\n就是由農會或漁會齁他能夠雇用一些外籍移工如果你需要的時候他那個需要也不是每天都需要當你需要的時候用這樣的方式去支援的方式也能夠部分的解決他這樣的問題我看到這樣下去執行下去幫人家倒三天這也是很好的一個方式啦我們沿海有很多真的都比較適合這個角度因為真的年輕人比較不會教我們這個農藝術的這個\n\n11:31.653 --> 11:31.673\n謝謝委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":5.506,"end":13.111,"text":"感謝韓院長請卓院長以及永恩城副長麻煩請卓院長農業部備詢應委員好院長好副長好"},{"start":29.588,"end":38.576,"text":"當前兩年以來,我們這個美國政府對我們台灣的關稅提高到30%雖然暫緩90天,對我們台灣未來的發展可能要應用很大也把外散戶的農業運動都去抓到了我們台灣的農業運動有很大的衝擊,我們的政府有相當的應應對策"},{"start":55.68,"end":77.63,"text":"我們對三鴨的支持放在地裡,所以我們提出九大面向二十項措施,就是想讓我們的三鴨可以安心,這個對不管是港鴨還是農鴨,我們都涵蓋在裡面,所以就是我們準備要淡泡的內容,那個方案準備好事,現在隨時,我們相逢時間說好事,馬上就啟動這個地理署的正式回答。"},{"start":78.561,"end":86.949,"text":"感謝議長,現在這個關稅的基石暫緩了,而美國關稅的政策,我們都無法去預料,有可能三天一休券,五天一大券,我們都無法放心,如果未來對美國出口的農產品,"},{"start":98.619,"end":108.031,"text":"維持這個高關稅,希望英國和國中,可以更加完整的主管和協助我們的農業商品,可以度過這個難關。對於我們這個美國的農產品來講,我們農業國有做"},{"start":116.901,"end":134.254,"text":"因應產品的清單內地但我們分林可以說是台灣中最多在這也感謝我們姑娘帶著她的手去到我們分林做一個行業業者做一個座談會還有一些因應措施也有跟他們說完我希望我們可以想更好的來看總統隨時來應變最好的應變措施"},{"start":146.643,"end":159.2,"text":"我跟委員報告,我們現在削除一些方案的部分,隨時都會滾動的檢討,就是說跟農民的座談,我們也會持續去做,如果說有一些更好的建議,值得我們納入的,我們會隨時滾動檢討"},{"start":160.922,"end":166.788,"text":"好,感謝,感謝國長。在這裡可能有多少的影響,再來要面對的,就是我們這個談判的一個問題。我們台灣雖然是沒有當地區的優先談判的名單裡面,所來可能要面對的就是我們的三頁管道題。"},{"start":180.48,"end":184.761,"text":"會遭到高關稅的衝擊 很多人都在問我們政府能否對於美國零關稅做條件這有可能會讓人擔心我們對於美國零關稅會影響到農業的發展會發生到極大的傷害"},{"start":202.006,"end":207.269,"text":"這次剛好接觸到這次的主席 阿航 英中 韓國中 最後要來討論一下未來五輪 怎麼回事"},{"start":213.007,"end":225.452,"text":"全民零關稅對我們六四的這個犧牲額和擁殖額會有最大的影響請我們議長跟我們國長可以高情,我們來犧牲我們的農業,這樣好不好?委員報告,美國所謂第一波的談判國家不是只有一個國家"},{"start":232.475,"end":246.768,"text":"有很多國家都在第一個行列當中我相信我們有辦法我們就是在這個行列當中第一波的行列當中我現在的意思是說不要去影響到我們的這個黨派的規定中間總統一直有支持跟堅持都於優先都欺民的權利一定要盡最大的能力來保護這個一定是國家最大的要求"},{"start":260.98,"end":277.573,"text":"東方,去到美國東方的立軍,他們對著他們的農業,是都非常堅持的過後啦,所以希望說我們中華民國也是一樣,可以對著我們農業、我們的企業的這個過程,一樣可以堅持來跟他們過後。不斷對農業還是農業一些,尤其是民間的幸福,我們一定會做很大的堅持。好,感謝議長。"},{"start":286.783,"end":289.784,"text":"當我們剛才在討論我們要關注國內關稅的危機,我們需要特別醫生來處理。我在這裏也要說,做到這次的手術,"},{"start":302.548,"end":314.235,"text":"農業局當今年的醫生的帖子看要怎樣來廣播照顧我們的農民我們今年的這個醫生農業局是一千六百九十多億今年是一千六百九十二億以台幣二十億變成一千九百七十二億一千九百四十二億七十二億七十二億我們這樣計劃這個"},{"start":329.42,"end":340.028,"text":"我們假日23日,不過我跟委員報告,我們假日的一些經費是要做更多事情的我跟委員報告,23日裡面,有57個是我們撥補我們的基金我們的基金包括我們的一些產銷調節的基金包括一些肥料補助的經費,包括一些我們對地綠色給付的"},{"start":355.199,"end":376.004,"text":"這個保溫都是由公務來撥補到基金的部分所以這個保溫本來我們有計差不多八十億現在因為被刪掉二十億以後就變成在資金上面來講就會比較困擾剛剛有刪掉到二十億二十億 刪了二十億有刪掉到二十億 對不過我的資料是沒有我的資料是20.14億沒關係 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