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00:01:42,672\n那本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好不是因為本席是因為清水人主要第一個我想院長你也很清楚清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車已經蓋非常久了\n\n5\n00:01:43,132 --> 00:02:07,303\n但它最大的缺點是因為它的這個賽道不是現在主流的250公尺它的賽道是比較長的333對333那所以呢我們會希望說因為有這一個場地加上院長你也曉得在我們海線地區的國中高中像大甲高中啊等等還有國中\n\n6\n00:02:08,055 --> 00:02:35,252\n都是自行車的這個重點的訓練學校那同時自行車的產業基本上也是以大甲附近為核心所以如果能夠在台中的海線加上這一座室內的自行車廠符合現在國際主流250公尺那未來有一個300多的室外的加一個250的室內的加產業聚落加國高中的孩子\n\n7\n00:02:36,872 --> 00:02:54,690\n台中市自行自由車的車選手的訓練重鎮所以整個訓練它將會群聚化也就是說在這樣的一個環境底下訓練也好舉辦比賽也好它就不需要舟車勞頓所以它變成了一個訓練自由車運動項目的聚落加上產業腳踏車都在我們那裡\n\n8\n00:03:01,016 --> 00:03:12,461\n所以本席一直很希望這樣的一個計畫能夠產生群聚效應而不是分散那當然我相信高雄台南也有他們爭取這個室內車廠的理由\n\n9\n00:03:13,888 --> 00:03:37,769\n我不知道在現行的評估裡面他是只能六億蓋一個或者他其實是行政院如果要推動這個自行車這項單項的運動的時候其實台灣是不只需要一個場館那院長不知道你的看法好謝謝蔡委員容許我再一次代表廣大的國人對於蔡會長帶領國家棒球隊贏得國際的戰譽\n\n10\n00:03:41,347 --> 00:04:06,759\n為國人爭光再次的表現尊敬跟肯定我想同樣的精神委員今天關心的是自由車在台中清水已經有一個現有的場地它不符這個國際的標準我們希望能夠把它整建那我們編了2500萬那另外我們希望委員希望能夠有一個新的自由車廠是符合250公尺的標準場地那這個可能經費要高達4億元左右評估起來\n\n11\n00:04:07,213 --> 00:04:35,653\n那現在是不是將來運動部成立之後他會推廣更多的全民體育在這個情況底下我們再來做統合的規劃是不是容許在那個時候一方面整建那一方面是不是要增建一個新的同時在台中地區做通盤的規劃所以我想院長你的意思我懂你也不反對啦只是說必須要等未來運動部成立之後更系統性的對於自由車這個競技活動到底我們需要幾個場館怎麼蓋\n\n12\n00:04:37,395 --> 00:04:55,855\n應該有一個比較通盤性的考慮我們希望半年內運動部就會成立幾個月內就成立希望把它移交給他做一個更長遠的規劃所以我還是謝謝院長因為我相信我們台中有很強的競爭力市政府也提出願意支持我們台中市政府常常不願意支持但這一次他是支持的\n\n13\n00:04:56,255 --> 00:05:11,093\n所以我想說這樣的一個情況底下中央地方可以合力來把這個自行車這個單向運動未來有更大的奪牌的可能跟機會所以我想這個是本席今天跟院長來講這個事情很重要的原因\n\n14\n00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:24,442\n第二個剛剛謝謝院長對我的誇讚其實我不是選手啦重點還是這是大家心裡深深的話我們選手很認真同時就我剛剛提到我們這個場館的計畫裡面這個賽會環境的計畫裡面有編列一個3億的預算\n\n15\n00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:59,205\n那大概我們大概會過去我們大概就編列了在四個球場那現在部分已經完工了像桃園的樂天棒球場這個八千萬那我也跟院長報告因為過去本席在當副院長的時候我就一直在提這個但我們的球場都是地方政府蓋的所以維護也必須要地方政府加上球團依照契約來分工做球場的改善但地方政府常常講沒錢\n\n16\n00:06:00,426 --> 00:06:23,888\n他的一句話我常常爭取他就是說沒錢但十二強世界冠軍現在地方政府都比較有錢忽然之間對棒球這項運動地方政府都比較支持那所以我說打鐵蹭熱的意思就是說事實上我們編的這個三億並不是中央全額買單而是中央出了三億有了誘因來協助地方政府的首長他願意\n\n17\n00:06:25,191 --> 00:06:44,260\n出錢來把他轄下的所有的這些棒球場來加以改善所以你看我們桃園我們中央出了八千萬那不夠的錢就地方政府跟樂天球團來出所以你看現在的桃園球場已經不會過去動輒一下雨就淹水場地就不能使用\n\n18\n00:06:44,840 --> 00:07:03,635\n那過去這個比賽打到一半會熄電那現在呢這些完全都把它改善好所以這間球場已經是比起過去來講很多那新莊棒球場也是這個也拿了我們中央的八千萬所以呢你看新莊球場現在這個富邦的球迷都很高興說有一個這麼漂亮的球場\n\n19\n00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:23,704\n那一路我們從當然有些比較慢像洲際球場的廁所到今天都才在開始興建動工而已這個是比較慢的那本席今天要借這個機會講一下因為還有還是有一些這個球場的預算這3億裡面還是分配不到譬如說這個澄清府球場的LED螢幕\n\n20\n00:07:24,364 --> 00:07:51,068\n那部長也知道院長也知道這個對於過去這個螢幕現在的新的球場螢幕是越蓋越大因為它符合這個球迷跟比賽之間的關聯性互動性然後把比賽的資訊可以透過這個大螢幕讓球迷朋友更加了解所以你可以看國外新蓋的球場譬如說我們以北海道的球場來看你看那個新建的螢幕其實是環繞型的\n\n21\n00:07:51,488 --> 00:08:08,144\n已經是環繞型的所以那個對於整體的比賽的精彩度對於台灣作為一個棒球王國我們其實是需要這樣的一個建設但我們先不談到像北海道球場我們先回到基本就好你看我們現行的這個球場幾乎啊\n\n22\n00:08:09,024 --> 00:08:28,977\n這個陳清武球場是模糊不清就連看清楚都有問題所以那個表示他已經衰退了老舊了那我也請高雄市政府陳市長來注意這個問題陳市長他也很熱心他說如果中央可以比照這個球場設施的改善這樣的一個計畫願意來支持那他剩下的部分他來負責\n\n23\n00:08:29,958 --> 00:08:52,926\n所以我也很謝謝陳其邁市長願意來支持螢幕的改善所以院長這個在未來我知道現在臨時講這個我們預算都有一個程序那是不是在未來運動部成立之後也可以來支持這筆預算是的蔡委員我們記得前幾天我們有一個足球比賽因為國內場地的不符標準被取消了\n\n24\n00:08:53,274 --> 00:09:06,714\n我覺得對國家來講是很大的損失我也覺得應該很慚愧我們應該把我們的場地讓他能夠符合國際的標準那國家的棒球是國人最喜歡的也是我們引以為傲的如果一個場地\n\n25\n00:09:07,435 --> 00:09:32,388\n因為這樣螢幕的設計不足或者老舊而造成大家在觀看比賽甚至未來迎接國際賽事上的一個障礙我覺得我們應該極力的把它爭取高雄的澄清棒球場現在他提出一個整建的計畫要1.1億左右但其中並沒有這個項目螢幕的整建雖然體育署有承諾要補助6千多萬但是我剛剛跟部長說如果\n\n26\n00:09:33,217 --> 00:09:59,430\n地方政府也願意配合我們體育部想辦法完成這個事情讓這個螢幕能夠寬心因為市長那個六千多萬再加這個螢幕大概再加個一千多萬就可以完成因為剩下的錢高雄市政府要出部長能不能做到我們把它可以嗎部長這個可以嗎所以地方政府把它做好好謝謝我代表高雄市代表很多球迷來謝謝行政院跟體育跟教育部的支持最後一個題目也大一點但我覺得院長這個很重要\n\n27\n00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:22,651\n我們從1931年開始我們的卡隆就是加農在甲子園拿到亞軍但如果時間再往前推我們在1906年當時的這個台灣總督府中學棒球隊就是建國中學的前身這個是第一個棒球隊在1906年所以台灣棒球的百年史事實上我們已經超過百年了\n\n28\n00:10:23,191 --> 00:10:39,957\n那如果以嘉農的甲子園拿到亞軍來看的話我們一路從甲子園的亞軍一直走到世界十二強的冠軍我們也接近一百年那我也知道運動部未來成立之後有在規劃所謂的這個叫做運動博物館\n\n29\n00:10:40,777 --> 00:10:55,068\n但事實上可能棒球的運動的歷史這個百年的歷史它所需要的文物它所需要的研究特別是在像早期我們看到的都只是時間序沒有具體的內容\n\n30\n00:10:56,248 --> 00:11:20,700\n這個對台灣作為一個棒球王國或者國人那麼喜愛棒球我們竟然連一個政府支持的當然現在有一個在桃園嘛但那個因為飯店經營不善的關係我看也岌岌可危啦所以台灣等於沒有一個比較正式比較有系統性的棒球博物館但是我們如果看你看其他像美日的國家他們棒球博物館啊\n\n31\n00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:49,956\n大小小針對個人針對棒球運動那個真的是日本十個以上美國我相信二十個以上大大小小的所以本席一直在希望能夠有一個棒球博物館的興建特別是我很希望如果以卡隆而言的話那剛好差不多一百年了快一百年了那個院長跟部長可不可以承諾本席這件事情我們要加速來推動\n\n32\n00:11:50,882 --> 00:12:12,178\n再次謝謝蔡會長的這個大力疾呼我覺得台灣棒球的實力已經不只是台灣的棒球它應該成為世界棒球歷史的一部分所以我們要為世界留下一個美好的紀錄也要為後人留下一個前瞻我們這一代風光的時代有一個紀錄完整的棒球歷史是我們應該要做的\n\n33\n00:12:13,118 --> 00:12:31,318\n為前人為後人我們都應該做的我希望我們再跟民間團體以及協會一起努力之下用政府的力量加上民間所有的資源我們一起朝這個方向來努力來達成好那因為我們剛剛所談的事情很多事情都跟運動部有關那我想請問院長運動部的時程大概什麼時候會掛牌預估\n\n34\n00:12:33,217 --> 00:12:52,468\n我們預估在8、9月吧8、9月就可以掛牌那時間馬上就到了啦所以這些事情的落實我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作是的那院長部長的人選跟次長人選都定了嗎我們希望給社會一個非常清新亮眼而且很有前瞻的\n\n35\n00:12:52,915 --> 00:13:09,143\n希望帶領整個運動部全新起飛我一直強調全新的運動部全新的部長我想這個是很重要的啦就是必須要找一個有亮點而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力因為後續的行政工作很多嘛\n\n36\n00:13:09,503 --> 00:13:30,742\n凡事起頭難一開始相當很多的行政作業我們很期待啦因為我想運動界體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立也很謝謝賴總統這個喜歡棒球的總統然後願意來把運動部來成立我相信這個對台灣的體育發展運動發展應該是一個跨時代的盛事\n\n37\n00:13:31,843 --> 00:13:59,667\n那最後一個我想部長我們地方有那個大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋也就是這兩條橋是台一線很重要的兩個橋樑那這個橋樑因為年代比較久了我們公路局本席也都會看很多次了也請他們去評估了那現在文送到行政院來那行政院似乎在對預算要用哪一筆錢有一點跟公路局不一樣的看法院長你知道這個事情嗎\n\n38\n00:14:03,848 --> 00:14:25,935\n因為我知道這兩個橋加起來一個36億一個44億將近有81億的工程款相當的多所以現在納入整個省道的改善計畫裡面去所以專業評估是沒有問題的需要做但是預算要來自哪裡譬如說用省道的基金來做或者行政院有其他的錢可以做我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案\n\n39\n00:14:26,395 --> 00:14:43,126\n如果要回到省道基金去做我也希望行政院能夠快速讓交通部來核定這個預算我們盡快來中央考量定案好謝謝院長那最後我想部長你也要注意一下那個我剛剛注意到那個新聞就是那個英檢的抽測\n\n40\n00:14:44,369 --> 00:15:08,785\n好像各地方國小跟國中各校都有很多的不一樣的看法那這個抽測我相信我了解起來那問題還是主要在於那個時間可能過於衝突就是臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內然後抽到學校去做這個英文線上的這個檢測但是可能這個設備是不是你抽到的學校每一個學校都有這樣的設備\n\n41\n00:15:10,006 --> 00:15:21,797\n那這個可能教育部要再公務員報告事實上可能有一些當然地方政府學校校長聽到抽冊大概都會緊張其實我們這一個我能夠這一個英語的\n\n42\n00:16:23,978 --> 00:16:32,488\n好謝謝蔡其昌委員的諮詢謝謝左院長教育部長的備詢謝謝接下來登記第七號林怡菁委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3998\t31069\t謝謝主席請院長跟教育部正部長麻煩再請卓院長教育部部長備詢蔡委員好院長好部長好委員好謝謝院長首先真的是感謝本席過去一直在提希望能夠對於體育設施\n32079\t59554\t特別是台灣人最喜歡的棒球的運動設施能夠有一些專案型的計畫來改善球場的環境那我很謝謝行政院謝謝教育部學體育署列了這個教育部體育署優化全民運動與賽會環境的這個計畫透過這個計畫呢現行的職棒場地在過去拿了中央三億的預算這一點我現在在這裡表達感謝\n61636\t85415\t這計畫當中其實不只棒球場地本席一直在關心台灣需要一個國際標準的室內自由車館本席也知道這個計畫當中編了六億要來興建合乎國際標準的室內自由車館包括台中包括高雄跟台南都有提出相關的爭取\n87349\t102672\t那本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好不是因為本席是因為清水人主要第一個我想院長你也很清楚清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車已經蓋非常久了\n103132\t127303\t但它最大的缺點是因為它的這個賽道不是現在主流的250公尺它的賽道是比較長的333對333那所以呢我們會希望說因為有這一個場地加上院長你也曉得在我們海線地區的國中高中像大甲高中啊等等還有國中\n128055\t155252\t都是自行車的這個重點的訓練學校那同時自行車的產業基本上也是以大甲附近為核心所以如果能夠在台中的海線加上這一座室內的自行車廠符合現在國際主流250公尺那未來有一個300多的室外的加一個250的室內的加產業聚落加國高中的孩子\n156872\t174690\t台中市自行自由車的車選手的訓練重鎮所以整個訓練它將會群聚化也就是說在這樣的一個環境底下訓練也好 舉辦比賽也好它就不需要舟車勞頓所以它變成了一個訓練自由車運動項目的聚落加上產業 腳踏車都在我們那裡\n181016\t192461\t所以本席一直很希望這樣的一個計畫能夠產生群聚效應而不是分散那當然我相信高雄台南也有他們爭取這個室內車廠的理由\n193888\t217769\t我不知道在現行的評估裡面他是只能六億蓋一個或者他其實是行政院如果要推動這個自行車這項單項的運動的時候其實台灣是不只需要一個場館那院長不知道你的看法好謝謝蔡委員容許我再一次代表廣大的國人對於蔡會長帶領國家棒球隊贏得國際的戰譽\n221347\t246759\t為國人爭光 再次的表現尊敬跟肯定我想同樣的精神委員今天關心的是自由車在台中清水已經有一個現有的場地它不符這個國際的標準我們希望能夠把它整建那我們編了2500萬那另外我們希望委員希望能夠有一個新的自由車廠是符合250公尺的標準場地那這個可能經費要高達4億元左右 評估起來\n247213\t275653\t那現在是不是將來運動部成立之後他會推廣更多的全民體育在這個情況底下我們再來做統合的規劃是不是容許在那個時候一方面整建那一方面是不是要增建一個新的同時在台中地區做通盤的規劃所以我想院長你的意思我懂你也不反對啦只是說必須要等未來運動部成立之後更系統性的對於自由車這個競技活動到底我們需要幾個場館怎麼蓋\n277395\t295855\t應該有一個比較通盤性的考慮我們希望半年內運動部就會成立幾個月內就成立希望把它移交給他做一個更長遠的規劃所以我還是謝謝院長因為我相信我們台中有很強的競爭力市政府也提出願意支持我們台中市政府常常不願意支持但這一次他是支持的\n296255\t311093\t所以我想說這樣的一個情況底下中央地方可以合力來把這個自行車這個單向運動未來有更大的奪牌的可能跟機會所以我想這個是本席今天跟院長來講這個事情很重要的原因\n311733\t324442\t第二個剛剛謝謝院長對我的誇讚其實我不是選手啦重點還是這是大家心裡深深的話我們選手很認真同時就我剛剛提到我們這個場館的計畫裡面這個賽會環境的計畫裡面有編列一個3億的預算\n330266\t359205\t那大概我們大概會過去我們大概就編列了在四個球場那現在部分已經完工了像桃園的樂天棒球場這個八千萬那我也跟院長報告因為過去本席在當副院長的時候我就一直在提這個但我們的球場都是地方政府蓋的所以維護也必須要地方政府加上球團依照契約來分工做球場的改善但地方政府常常講沒錢\n360426\t383888\t他的一句話我常常爭取他就是說沒錢但十二強世界冠軍現在地方政府都比較有錢忽然之間對棒球這項運動地方政府都比較支持那所以我說打鐵蹭熱的意思就是說事實上我們編的這個三億並不是中央全額買單而是中央出了三億有了誘因來協助地方政府的首長他願意\n385191\t404260\t出錢來把他轄下的所有的這些棒球場來加以改善所以你看我們桃園我們中央出了八千萬那不夠的錢就地方政府跟樂天球團來出所以你看現在的桃園球場已經不會過去動輒一下雨就淹水場地就不能使用\n404840\t423635\t那過去這個比賽打到一半會熄電那現在呢這些完全都把它改善好所以這間球場已經是比起過去來講很多那新莊棒球場也是這個也拿了我們中央的八千萬所以呢你看新莊球場現在這個富邦的球迷都很高興說有一個這麼漂亮的球場\n424790\t443704\t那一路我們從當然有些比較慢像洲際球場的廁所到今天都才在開始興建動工而已這個是比較慢的那本席今天要借這個機會講一下因為還有還是有一些這個球場的預算這3億裡面還是分配不到譬如說這個澄清府球場的LED螢幕\n444364\t471068\t那部長也知道院長也知道這個對於過去這個螢幕現在的新的球場螢幕是越蓋越大因為它符合這個球迷跟比賽之間的關聯性互動性然後把比賽的資訊可以透過這個大螢幕讓球迷朋友更加了解所以你可以看國外新蓋的球場譬如說我們以北海道的球場來看你看那個新建的螢幕其實是環繞型的\n471488\t488144\t已經是環繞型的所以那個對於整體的比賽的精彩度對於台灣作為一個棒球王國我們其實是需要這樣的一個建設但我們先不談到像北海道球場我們先回到基本就好你看我們現行的這個球場幾乎啊\n489024\t508977\t這個陳清武球場是模糊不清就連看清楚都有問題所以那個表示他已經衰退了老舊了那我也請高雄市政府陳市長來注意這個問題陳市長他也很熱心他說如果中央可以比照這個球場設施的改善這樣的一個計畫願意來支持那他剩下的部分他來負責\n509958\t532926\t所以我也很謝謝陳其邁市長願意來支持螢幕的改善所以院長這個在未來我知道現在臨時講這個我們預算都有一個程序那是不是在未來運動部成立之後也可以來支持這筆預算是的 蔡委員我們記得前幾天我們有一個足球比賽因為國內場地的不符標準被取消了\n533274\t546714\t我覺得對國家來講是很大的損失我也覺得應該很慚愧我們應該把我們的場地讓他能夠符合國際的標準那國家的棒球是國人最喜歡的也是我們引以為傲的如果一個場地\n547435\t572388\t因為這樣螢幕的設計不足或者老舊而造成大家在觀看比賽甚至未來迎接國際賽事上的一個障礙我覺得我們應該極力的把它爭取高雄的澄清棒球場現在他提出一個整建的計畫要1.1億左右但其中並沒有這個項目螢幕的整建雖然體育署有承諾要補助6千多萬但是我剛剛跟部長說如果\n573217\t599430\t地方政府也願意配合我們體育部想辦法完成這個事情讓這個螢幕能夠寬心因為市長那個六千多萬再加這個螢幕大概再加個一千多萬就可以完成因為剩下的錢高雄市政府要出部長能不能做到我們把它可以嗎 部長這個可以嗎所以地方政府把它做好好 謝謝我代表高雄市代表很多球迷來謝謝行政院跟體育跟教育部的支持最後一個題目也大一點但我覺得院長這個很重要\n600350\t622651\t我們從1931年開始我們的卡隆就是加農在甲子園拿到亞軍但如果時間再往前推我們在1906年當時的這個台灣總督府中學棒球隊就是建國中學的前身這個是第一個棒球隊在1906年所以台灣棒球的百年史事實上我們已經超過百年了\n623191\t639957\t那如果以嘉農的甲子園拿到亞軍來看的話我們一路從甲子園的亞軍一直走到世界十二強的冠軍我們也接近一百年那我也知道運動部未來成立之後有在規劃所謂的這個叫做運動博物館\n640777\t655068\t但事實上可能棒球的運動的歷史這個百年的歷史它所需要的文物它所需要的研究特別是在像早期我們看到的都只是時間序沒有具體的內容\n656248\t680700\t這個對台灣作為一個棒球王國或者國人那麼喜愛棒球我們竟然連一個政府支持的當然現在有一個在桃園嘛但那個因為飯店經營不善的關係我看也岌岌可危啦所以台灣等於沒有一個比較正式比較有系統性的棒球博物館但是我們如果看你看其他像美日的國家他們棒球博物館啊\n681340\t709956\t大小小 針對個人 針對棒球運動那個真的是日本十個以上 美國我相信二十個以上大大小小的所以本席一直在希望能夠有一個棒球博物館的興建特別是我很希望如果以卡隆而言的話那剛好差不多一百年了快一百年了那個院長跟部長可不可以承諾本席這件事情我們要加速來推動\n710882\t732178\t再次謝謝蔡會長的這個大力疾呼我覺得台灣棒球的實力已經不只是台灣的棒球它應該成為世界棒球歷史的一部分所以我們要為世界留下一個美好的紀錄也要為後人留下一個前瞻我們這一代風光的時代有一個紀錄完整的棒球歷史是我們應該要做的\n733118\t751318\t為前人為後人我們都應該做的我希望我們再跟民間團體以及協會一起努力之下用政府的力量加上民間所有的資源我們一起朝這個方向來努力來達成好 那因為我們剛剛所談的事情很多事情都跟運動部有關那我想請問院長運動部的時程大概什麼時候會掛牌 預估\n753217\t772468\t我們預估在8、9月吧8、9月就可以掛牌那時間馬上就到了啦所以這些事情的落實我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作是的那院長部長的人選跟次長人選都定了嗎我們希望給社會一個非常清新亮眼而且很有前瞻的\n772915\t789143\t希望帶領整個運動部全新起飛我一直強調全新的運動部 全新的部長我想這個是很重要的啦就是必須要找一個有亮點而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力因為後續的行政工作很多嘛\n789503\t810742\t凡事起頭難一開始相當很多的行政作業我們很期待啦因為我想運動界體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立也很謝謝賴總統這個喜歡棒球的總統然後願意來把運動部來成立我相信這個對台灣的體育發展運動發展應該是一個跨時代的盛事\n811843\t839667\t那最後一個我想部長我們地方有那個大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋也就是這兩條橋是台一線很重要的兩個橋樑那這個橋樑因為年代比較久了我們公路局本席也都會看很多次了也請他們去評估了那現在文送到行政院來那行政院似乎在對預算要用哪一筆錢有一點跟公路局不一樣的看法院長你知道這個事情嗎\n843848\t865935\t因為我知道這兩個橋加起來一個36億一個44億將近有81億的工程款相當的多所以現在納入整個省道的改善計畫裡面去所以專業評估是沒有問題的需要做但是預算要來自哪裡譬如說用省道的基金來做或者行政院有其他的錢可以做我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案\n866395\t883126\t如果要回到省道基金去做我也希望行政院能夠快速讓交通部來核定這個預算我們盡快來中央考量定案好 謝謝院長那最後我想部長你也要注意一下那個我剛剛注意到那個新聞就是那個英檢的抽測\n884369\t908785\t好像各地方國小跟國中各校都有很多的不一樣的看法那這個抽測我相信我了解起來那問題還是主要在於那個時間可能過於衝突就是臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內然後抽到學校去做這個英文線上的這個檢測但是可能這個設備是不是你抽到的學校每一個學校都有這樣的設備\n910006\t921797\t那這個可能教育部要再公務員報告事實上可能有一些當然地方政府學校校長聽到抽冊大概都會緊張其實我們這一個我能夠這一個英語的\n983978\t992488\t好 謝謝蔡其昌委員的諮詢謝謝左院長 教育部長的備詢 謝謝接下來登記第七號林怡菁委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席請院長跟教育部正部長麻煩再請卓院長教育部部長備詢蔡委員好院長好部長好委員好謝謝院長首先真的是感謝本席過去一直在提希望能夠對於體育設施\n特別是台灣人最喜歡的棒球的運動設施能夠有一些專案型的計畫來改善球場的環境那我很謝謝行政院謝謝教育部學體育署列了這個教育部體育署優化全民運動與賽會環境的這個計畫透過這個計畫呢現行的職棒場地在過去拿了中央三億的預算這一點我現在在這裡表達感謝\n這計畫當中其實不只棒球場地本席一直在關心台灣需要一個國際標準的室內自由車館本席也知道這個計畫當中編了六億要來興建合乎國際標準的室內自由車館包括台中包括高雄跟台南都有提出相關的爭取\n那本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好不是因為本席是因為清水人主要第一個我想院長你也很清楚清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車已經蓋非常久了\n但它最大的缺點是因為它的這個賽道不是現在主流的250公尺它的賽道是比較長的333對333那所以呢我們會希望說因為有這一個場地加上院長你也曉得在我們海線地區的國中高中像大甲高中啊等等還有國中\n都是自行車的這個重點的訓練學校那同時自行車的產業基本上也是以大甲附近為核心所以如果能夠在台中的海線加上這一座室內的自行車廠符合現在國際主流250公尺那未來有一個300多的室外的加一個250的室內的加產業聚落加國高中的孩子\n台中市自行自由車的車選手的訓練重鎮所以整個訓練它將會群聚化也就是說在這樣的一個環境底下訓練也好 舉辦比賽也好它就不需要舟車勞頓所以它變成了一個訓練自由車運動項目的聚落加上產業 腳踏車都在我們那裡\n所以本席一直很希望這樣的一個計畫能夠產生群聚效應而不是分散那當然我相信高雄台南也有他們爭取這個室內車廠的理由\n我不知道在現行的評估裡面他是只能六億蓋一個或者他其實是行政院如果要推動這個自行車這項單項的運動的時候其實台灣是不只需要一個場館那院長不知道你的看法好謝謝蔡委員容許我再一次代表廣大的國人對於蔡會長帶領國家棒球隊贏得國際的戰譽\n為國人爭光 再次的表現尊敬跟肯定我想同樣的精神委員今天關心的是自由車在台中清水已經有一個現有的場地它不符這個國際的標準我們希望能夠把它整建那我們編了2500萬那另外我們希望委員希望能夠有一個新的自由車廠是符合250公尺的標準場地那這個可能經費要高達4億元左右 評估起來\n那現在是不是將來運動部成立之後他會推廣更多的全民體育在這個情況底下我們再來做統合的規劃是不是容許在那個時候一方面整建那一方面是不是要增建一個新的同時在台中地區做通盤的規劃所以我想院長你的意思我懂你也不反對啦只是說必須要等未來運動部成立之後更系統性的對於自由車這個競技活動到底我們需要幾個場館怎麼蓋\n應該有一個比較通盤性的考慮我們希望半年內運動部就會成立幾個月內就成立希望把它移交給他做一個更長遠的規劃所以我還是謝謝院長因為我相信我們台中有很強的競爭力市政府也提出願意支持我們台中市政府常常不願意支持但這一次他是支持的\n所以我想說這樣的一個情況底下中央地方可以合力來把這個自行車這個單向運動未來有更大的奪牌的可能跟機會所以我想這個是本席今天跟院長來講這個事情很重要的原因\n第二個剛剛謝謝院長對我的誇讚其實我不是選手啦重點還是這是大家心裡深深的話我們選手很認真同時就我剛剛提到我們這個場館的計畫裡面這個賽會環境的計畫裡面有編列一個3億的預算\n那大概我們大概會過去我們大概就編列了在四個球場那現在部分已經完工了像桃園的樂天棒球場這個八千萬那我也跟院長報告因為過去本席在當副院長的時候我就一直在提這個但我們的球場都是地方政府蓋的所以維護也必須要地方政府加上球團依照契約來分工做球場的改善但地方政府常常講沒錢\n他的一句話我常常爭取他就是說沒錢但十二強世界冠軍現在地方政府都比較有錢忽然之間對棒球這項運動地方政府都比較支持那所以我說打鐵蹭熱的意思就是說事實上我們編的這個三億並不是中央全額買單而是中央出了三億有了誘因來協助地方政府的首長他願意\n出錢來把他轄下的所有的這些棒球場來加以改善所以你看我們桃園我們中央出了八千萬那不夠的錢就地方政府跟樂天球團來出所以你看現在的桃園球場已經不會過去動輒一下雨就淹水場地就不能使用\n那過去這個比賽打到一半會熄電那現在呢這些完全都把它改善好所以這間球場已經是比起過去來講很多那新莊棒球場也是這個也拿了我們中央的八千萬所以呢你看新莊球場現在這個富邦的球迷都很高興說有一個這麼漂亮的球場\n那一路我們從當然有些比較慢像洲際球場的廁所到今天都才在開始興建動工而已這個是比較慢的那本席今天要借這個機會講一下因為還有還是有一些這個球場的預算這3億裡面還是分配不到譬如說這個澄清府球場的LED螢幕\n那部長也知道院長也知道這個對於過去這個螢幕現在的新的球場螢幕是越蓋越大因為它符合這個球迷跟比賽之間的關聯性互動性然後把比賽的資訊可以透過這個大螢幕讓球迷朋友更加了解所以你可以看國外新蓋的球場譬如說我們以北海道的球場來看你看那個新建的螢幕其實是環繞型的\n已經是環繞型的所以那個對於整體的比賽的精彩度對於台灣作為一個棒球王國我們其實是需要這樣的一個建設但我們先不談到像北海道球場我們先回到基本就好你看我們現行的這個球場幾乎啊\n這個陳清武球場是模糊不清就連看清楚都有問題所以那個表示他已經衰退了老舊了那我也請高雄市政府陳市長來注意這個問題陳市長他也很熱心他說如果中央可以比照這個球場設施的改善這樣的一個計畫願意來支持那他剩下的部分他來負責\n所以我也很謝謝陳其邁市長願意來支持螢幕的改善所以院長這個在未來我知道現在臨時講這個我們預算都有一個程序那是不是在未來運動部成立之後也可以來支持這筆預算是的 蔡委員我們記得前幾天我們有一個足球比賽因為國內場地的不符標準被取消了\n我覺得對國家來講是很大的損失我也覺得應該很慚愧我們應該把我們的場地讓他能夠符合國際的標準那國家的棒球是國人最喜歡的也是我們引以為傲的如果一個場地\n因為這樣螢幕的設計不足或者老舊而造成大家在觀看比賽甚至未來迎接國際賽事上的一個障礙我覺得我們應該極力的把它爭取高雄的澄清棒球場現在他提出一個整建的計畫要1.1億左右但其中並沒有這個項目螢幕的整建雖然體育署有承諾要補助6千多萬但是我剛剛跟部長說如果\n地方政府也願意配合我們體育部想辦法完成這個事情讓這個螢幕能夠寬心因為市長那個六千多萬再加這個螢幕大概再加個一千多萬就可以完成因為剩下的錢高雄市政府要出部長能不能做到我們把它可以嗎 部長這個可以嗎所以地方政府把它做好好 謝謝我代表高雄市代表很多球迷來謝謝行政院跟體育跟教育部的支持最後一個題目也大一點但我覺得院長這個很重要\n我們從1931年開始我們的卡隆就是加農在甲子園拿到亞軍但如果時間再往前推我們在1906年當時的這個台灣總督府中學棒球隊就是建國中學的前身這個是第一個棒球隊在1906年所以台灣棒球的百年史事實上我們已經超過百年了\n那如果以嘉農的甲子園拿到亞軍來看的話我們一路從甲子園的亞軍一直走到世界十二強的冠軍我們也接近一百年那我也知道運動部未來成立之後有在規劃所謂的這個叫做運動博物館\n但事實上可能棒球的運動的歷史這個百年的歷史它所需要的文物它所需要的研究特別是在像早期我們看到的都只是時間序沒有具體的內容\n這個對台灣作為一個棒球王國或者國人那麼喜愛棒球我們竟然連一個政府支持的當然現在有一個在桃園嘛但那個因為飯店經營不善的關係我看也岌岌可危啦所以台灣等於沒有一個比較正式比較有系統性的棒球博物館但是我們如果看你看其他像美日的國家他們棒球博物館啊\n大小小 針對個人 針對棒球運動那個真的是日本十個以上 美國我相信二十個以上大大小小的所以本席一直在希望能夠有一個棒球博物館的興建特別是我很希望如果以卡隆而言的話那剛好差不多一百年了快一百年了那個院長跟部長可不可以承諾本席這件事情我們要加速來推動\n再次謝謝蔡會長的這個大力疾呼我覺得台灣棒球的實力已經不只是台灣的棒球它應該成為世界棒球歷史的一部分所以我們要為世界留下一個美好的紀錄也要為後人留下一個前瞻我們這一代風光的時代有一個紀錄完整的棒球歷史是我們應該要做的\n為前人為後人我們都應該做的我希望我們再跟民間團體以及協會一起努力之下用政府的力量加上民間所有的資源我們一起朝這個方向來努力來達成好 那因為我們剛剛所談的事情很多事情都跟運動部有關那我想請問院長運動部的時程大概什麼時候會掛牌 預估\n我們預估在8、9月吧8、9月就可以掛牌那時間馬上就到了啦所以這些事情的落實我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作是的那院長部長的人選跟次長人選都定了嗎我們希望給社會一個非常清新亮眼而且很有前瞻的\n希望帶領整個運動部全新起飛我一直強調全新的運動部 全新的部長我想這個是很重要的啦就是必須要找一個有亮點而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力因為後續的行政工作很多嘛\n凡事起頭難一開始相當很多的行政作業我們很期待啦因為我想運動界體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立也很謝謝賴總統這個喜歡棒球的總統然後願意來把運動部來成立我相信這個對台灣的體育發展運動發展應該是一個跨時代的盛事\n那最後一個我想部長我們地方有那個大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋也就是這兩條橋是台一線很重要的兩個橋樑那這個橋樑因為年代比較久了我們公路局本席也都會看很多次了也請他們去評估了那現在文送到行政院來那行政院似乎在對預算要用哪一筆錢有一點跟公路局不一樣的看法院長你知道這個事情嗎\n因為我知道這兩個橋加起來一個36億一個44億將近有81億的工程款相當的多所以現在納入整個省道的改善計畫裡面去所以專業評估是沒有問題的需要做但是預算要來自哪裡譬如說用省道的基金來做或者行政院有其他的錢可以做我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案\n如果要回到省道基金去做我也希望行政院能夠快速讓交通部來核定這個預算我們盡快來中央考量定案好 謝謝院長那最後我想部長你也要注意一下那個我剛剛注意到那個新聞就是那個英檢的抽測\n好像各地方國小跟國中各校都有很多的不一樣的看法那這個抽測我相信我了解起來那問題還是主要在於那個時間可能過於衝突就是臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內然後抽到學校去做這個英文線上的這個檢測但是可能這個設備是不是你抽到的學校每一個學校都有這樣的設備\n那這個可能教育部要再公務員報告事實上可能有一些當然地方政府學校校長聽到抽冊大概都會緊張其實我們這一個我能夠這一個英語的\n好 謝謝蔡其昌委員的諮詢謝謝左院長 教育部長的備詢 謝謝接下來登記第七號林怡菁委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.998 --> 00:31.069\n謝謝主席請院長跟教育部正部長麻煩再請卓院長教育部部長備詢蔡委員好院長好部長好委員好謝謝院長首先真的是感謝本席過去一直在提希望能夠對於體育設施\n\n00:32.079 --> 00:59.554\n特別是台灣人最喜歡的棒球的運動設施能夠有一些專案型的計畫來改善球場的環境那我很謝謝行政院謝謝教育部學體育署列了這個教育部體育署優化全民運動與賽會環境的這個計畫透過這個計畫呢現行的職棒場地在過去拿了中央三億的預算這一點我現在在這裡表達感謝\n\n01:01.636 --> 01:25.415\n這計畫當中其實不只棒球場地本席一直在關心台灣需要一個國際標準的室內自由車館本席也知道這個計畫當中編了六億要來興建合乎國際標準的室內自由車館包括台中包括高雄跟台南都有提出相關的爭取\n\n01:27.349 --> 01:42.672\n那本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好不是因為本席是因為清水人主要第一個我想院長你也很清楚清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車已經蓋非常久了\n\n01:43.132 --> 02:07.303\n但它最大的缺點是因為它的這個賽道不是現在主流的250公尺它的賽道是比較長的333對333那所以呢我們會希望說因為有這一個場地加上院長你也曉得在我們海線地區的國中高中像大甲高中啊等等還有國中\n\n02:08.055 --> 02:35.252\n都是自行車的這個重點的訓練學校那同時自行車的產業基本上也是以大甲附近為核心所以如果能夠在台中的海線加上這一座室內的自行車廠符合現在國際主流250公尺那未來有一個300多的室外的加一個250的室內的加產業聚落加國高中的孩子\n\n02:36.872 --> 02:54.690\n台中市自行自由車的車選手的訓練重鎮所以整個訓練它將會群聚化也就是說在這樣的一個環境底下訓練也好舉辦比賽也好它就不需要舟車勞頓所以它變成了一個訓練自由車運動項目的聚落加上產業腳踏車都在我們那裡\n\n03:01.016 --> 03:12.461\n所以本席一直很希望這樣的一個計畫能夠產生群聚效應而不是分散那當然我相信高雄台南也有他們爭取這個室內車廠的理由\n\n03:13.888 --> 03:37.769\n我不知道在現行的評估裡面他是只能六億蓋一個或者他其實是行政院如果要推動這個自行車這項單項的運動的時候其實台灣是不只需要一個場館那院長不知道你的看法好謝謝蔡委員容許我再一次代表廣大的國人對於蔡會長帶領國家棒球隊贏得國際的戰譽\n\n03:41.347 --> 04:06.759\n為國人爭光再次的表現尊敬跟肯定我想同樣的精神委員今天關心的是自由車在台中清水已經有一個現有的場地它不符這個國際的標準我們希望能夠把它整建那我們編了2500萬那另外我們希望委員希望能夠有一個新的自由車廠是符合250公尺的標準場地那這個可能經費要高達4億元左右評估起來\n\n04:07.213 --> 04:35.653\n那現在是不是將來運動部成立之後他會推廣更多的全民體育在這個情況底下我們再來做統合的規劃是不是容許在那個時候一方面整建那一方面是不是要增建一個新的同時在台中地區做通盤的規劃所以我想院長你的意思我懂你也不反對啦只是說必須要等未來運動部成立之後更系統性的對於自由車這個競技活動到底我們需要幾個場館怎麼蓋\n\n04:37.395 --> 04:55.855\n應該有一個比較通盤性的考慮我們希望半年內運動部就會成立幾個月內就成立希望把它移交給他做一個更長遠的規劃所以我還是謝謝院長因為我相信我們台中有很強的競爭力市政府也提出願意支持我們台中市政府常常不願意支持但這一次他是支持的\n\n04:56.255 --> 05:11.093\n所以我想說這樣的一個情況底下中央地方可以合力來把這個自行車這個單向運動未來有更大的奪牌的可能跟機會所以我想這個是本席今天跟院長來講這個事情很重要的原因\n\n05:11.733 --> 05:24.442\n第二個剛剛謝謝院長對我的誇讚其實我不是選手啦重點還是這是大家心裡深深的話我們選手很認真同時就我剛剛提到我們這個場館的計畫裡面這個賽會環境的計畫裡面有編列一個3億的預算\n\n05:30.266 --> 05:59.205\n那大概我們大概會過去我們大概就編列了在四個球場那現在部分已經完工了像桃園的樂天棒球場這個八千萬那我也跟院長報告因為過去本席在當副院長的時候我就一直在提這個但我們的球場都是地方政府蓋的所以維護也必須要地方政府加上球團依照契約來分工做球場的改善但地方政府常常講沒錢\n\n06:00.426 --> 06:23.888\n他的一句話我常常爭取他就是說沒錢但十二強世界冠軍現在地方政府都比較有錢忽然之間對棒球這項運動地方政府都比較支持那所以我說打鐵蹭熱的意思就是說事實上我們編的這個三億並不是中央全額買單而是中央出了三億有了誘因來協助地方政府的首長他願意\n\n06:25.191 --> 06:44.260\n出錢來把他轄下的所有的這些棒球場來加以改善所以你看我們桃園我們中央出了八千萬那不夠的錢就地方政府跟樂天球團來出所以你看現在的桃園球場已經不會過去動輒一下雨就淹水場地就不能使用\n\n06:44.840 --> 07:03.635\n那過去這個比賽打到一半會熄電那現在呢這些完全都把它改善好所以這間球場已經是比起過去來講很多那新莊棒球場也是這個也拿了我們中央的八千萬所以呢你看新莊球場現在這個富邦的球迷都很高興說有一個這麼漂亮的球場\n\n07:04.790 --> 07:23.704\n那一路我們從當然有些比較慢像洲際球場的廁所到今天都才在開始興建動工而已這個是比較慢的那本席今天要借這個機會講一下因為還有還是有一些這個球場的預算這3億裡面還是分配不到譬如說這個澄清府球場的LED螢幕\n\n07:24.364 --> 07:51.068\n那部長也知道院長也知道這個對於過去這個螢幕現在的新的球場螢幕是越蓋越大因為它符合這個球迷跟比賽之間的關聯性互動性然後把比賽的資訊可以透過這個大螢幕讓球迷朋友更加了解所以你可以看國外新蓋的球場譬如說我們以北海道的球場來看你看那個新建的螢幕其實是環繞型的\n\n07:51.488 --> 08:08.144\n已經是環繞型的所以那個對於整體的比賽的精彩度對於台灣作為一個棒球王國我們其實是需要這樣的一個建設但我們先不談到像北海道球場我們先回到基本就好你看我們現行的這個球場幾乎啊\n\n08:09.024 --> 08:28.977\n這個陳清武球場是模糊不清就連看清楚都有問題所以那個表示他已經衰退了老舊了那我也請高雄市政府陳市長來注意這個問題陳市長他也很熱心他說如果中央可以比照這個球場設施的改善這樣的一個計畫願意來支持那他剩下的部分他來負責\n\n08:29.958 --> 08:52.926\n所以我也很謝謝陳其邁市長願意來支持螢幕的改善所以院長這個在未來我知道現在臨時講這個我們預算都有一個程序那是不是在未來運動部成立之後也可以來支持這筆預算是的蔡委員我們記得前幾天我們有一個足球比賽因為國內場地的不符標準被取消了\n\n08:53.274 --> 09:06.714\n我覺得對國家來講是很大的損失我也覺得應該很慚愧我們應該把我們的場地讓他能夠符合國際的標準那國家的棒球是國人最喜歡的也是我們引以為傲的如果一個場地\n\n09:07.435 --> 09:32.388\n因為這樣螢幕的設計不足或者老舊而造成大家在觀看比賽甚至未來迎接國際賽事上的一個障礙我覺得我們應該極力的把它爭取高雄的澄清棒球場現在他提出一個整建的計畫要1.1億左右但其中並沒有這個項目螢幕的整建雖然體育署有承諾要補助6千多萬但是我剛剛跟部長說如果\n\n09:33.217 --> 09:59.430\n地方政府也願意配合我們體育部想辦法完成這個事情讓這個螢幕能夠寬心因為市長那個六千多萬再加這個螢幕大概再加個一千多萬就可以完成因為剩下的錢高雄市政府要出部長能不能做到我們把它可以嗎部長這個可以嗎所以地方政府把它做好好謝謝我代表高雄市代表很多球迷來謝謝行政院跟體育跟教育部的支持最後一個題目也大一點但我覺得院長這個很重要\n\n10:00.350 --> 10:22.651\n我們從1931年開始我們的卡隆就是加農在甲子園拿到亞軍但如果時間再往前推我們在1906年當時的這個台灣總督府中學棒球隊就是建國中學的前身這個是第一個棒球隊在1906年所以台灣棒球的百年史事實上我們已經超過百年了\n\n10:23.191 --> 10:39.957\n那如果以嘉農的甲子園拿到亞軍來看的話我們一路從甲子園的亞軍一直走到世界十二強的冠軍我們也接近一百年那我也知道運動部未來成立之後有在規劃所謂的這個叫做運動博物館\n\n10:40.777 --> 10:55.068\n但事實上可能棒球的運動的歷史這個百年的歷史它所需要的文物它所需要的研究特別是在像早期我們看到的都只是時間序沒有具體的內容\n\n10:56.248 --> 11:20.700\n這個對台灣作為一個棒球王國或者國人那麼喜愛棒球我們竟然連一個政府支持的當然現在有一個在桃園嘛但那個因為飯店經營不善的關係我看也岌岌可危啦所以台灣等於沒有一個比較正式比較有系統性的棒球博物館但是我們如果看你看其他像美日的國家他們棒球博物館啊\n\n11:21.340 --> 11:49.956\n大小小針對個人針對棒球運動那個真的是日本十個以上美國我相信二十個以上大大小小的所以本席一直在希望能夠有一個棒球博物館的興建特別是我很希望如果以卡隆而言的話那剛好差不多一百年了快一百年了那個院長跟部長可不可以承諾本席這件事情我們要加速來推動\n\n11:50.882 --> 12:12.178\n再次謝謝蔡會長的這個大力疾呼我覺得台灣棒球的實力已經不只是台灣的棒球它應該成為世界棒球歷史的一部分所以我們要為世界留下一個美好的紀錄也要為後人留下一個前瞻我們這一代風光的時代有一個紀錄完整的棒球歷史是我們應該要做的\n\n12:13.118 --> 12:31.318\n為前人為後人我們都應該做的我希望我們再跟民間團體以及協會一起努力之下用政府的力量加上民間所有的資源我們一起朝這個方向來努力來達成好那因為我們剛剛所談的事情很多事情都跟運動部有關那我想請問院長運動部的時程大概什麼時候會掛牌預估\n\n12:33.217 --> 12:52.468\n我們預估在8、9月吧8、9月就可以掛牌那時間馬上就到了啦所以這些事情的落實我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作是的那院長部長的人選跟次長人選都定了嗎我們希望給社會一個非常清新亮眼而且很有前瞻的\n\n12:52.915 --> 13:09.143\n希望帶領整個運動部全新起飛我一直強調全新的運動部全新的部長我想這個是很重要的啦就是必須要找一個有亮點而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力因為後續的行政工作很多嘛\n\n13:09.503 --> 13:30.742\n凡事起頭難一開始相當很多的行政作業我們很期待啦因為我想運動界體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立也很謝謝賴總統這個喜歡棒球的總統然後願意來把運動部來成立我相信這個對台灣的體育發展運動發展應該是一個跨時代的盛事\n\n13:31.843 --> 13:59.667\n那最後一個我想部長我們地方有那個大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋也就是這兩條橋是台一線很重要的兩個橋樑那這個橋樑因為年代比較久了我們公路局本席也都會看很多次了也請他們去評估了那現在文送到行政院來那行政院似乎在對預算要用哪一筆錢有一點跟公路局不一樣的看法院長你知道這個事情嗎\n\n14:03.848 --> 14:25.935\n因為我知道這兩個橋加起來一個36億一個44億將近有81億的工程款相當的多所以現在納入整個省道的改善計畫裡面去所以專業評估是沒有問題的需要做但是預算要來自哪裡譬如說用省道的基金來做或者行政院有其他的錢可以做我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案\n\n14:26.395 --> 14:43.126\n如果要回到省道基金去做我也希望行政院能夠快速讓交通部來核定這個預算我們盡快來中央考量定案好謝謝院長那最後我想部長你也要注意一下那個我剛剛注意到那個新聞就是那個英檢的抽測\n\n14:44.369 --> 15:08.785\n好像各地方國小跟國中各校都有很多的不一樣的看法那這個抽測我相信我了解起來那問題還是主要在於那個時間可能過於衝突就是臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內然後抽到學校去做這個英文線上的這個檢測但是可能這個設備是不是你抽到的學校每一個學校都有這樣的設備\n\n15:10.006 --> 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16:32.488\n好謝謝蔡其昌委員的諮詢謝謝左院長教育部長的備詢謝謝接下來登記第七號林怡菁委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":3.998,"end":31.069,"text":"謝謝主席請院長跟教育部正部長麻煩再請卓院長教育部部長備詢蔡委員好院長好部長好委員好謝謝院長首先真的是感謝本席過去一直在提希望能夠對於體育設施"},{"start":32.079,"end":59.554,"text":"特別是台灣人最喜歡的棒球的運動設施能夠有一些專案型的計畫來改善球場的環境那我很謝謝行政院謝謝教育部學體育署列了這個教育部體育署優化全民運動與賽會環境的這個計畫透過這個計畫呢現行的職棒場地在過去拿了中央三億的預算這一點我現在在這裡表達感謝"},{"start":61.636,"end":85.415,"text":"這計畫當中其實不只棒球場地本席一直在關心台灣需要一個國際標準的室內自由車館本席也知道這個計畫當中編了六億要來興建合乎國際標準的室內自由車館包括台中包括高雄跟台南都有提出相關的爭取"},{"start":87.349,"end":102.672,"text":"那本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好不是因為本席是因為清水人主要第一個我想院長你也很清楚清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車已經蓋非常久了"},{"start":103.132,"end":127.303,"text":"但它最大的缺點是因為它的這個賽道不是現在主流的250公尺它的賽道是比較長的333對333那所以呢我們會希望說因為有這一個場地加上院長你也曉得在我們海線地區的國中高中像大甲高中啊等等還有國中"},{"start":128.055,"end":155.252,"text":"都是自行車的這個重點的訓練學校那同時自行車的產業基本上也是以大甲附近為核心所以如果能夠在台中的海線加上這一座室內的自行車廠符合現在國際主流250公尺那未來有一個300多的室外的加一個250的室內的加產業聚落加國高中的孩子"},{"start":156.872,"end":174.69,"text":"台中市自行自由車的車選手的訓練重鎮所以整個訓練它將會群聚化也就是說在這樣的一個環境底下訓練也好 舉辦比賽也好它就不需要舟車勞頓所以它變成了一個訓練自由車運動項目的聚落加上產業 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那因為我們剛剛所談的事情很多事情都跟運動部有關那我想請問院長運動部的時程大概什麼時候會掛牌 預估"},{"start":753.217,"end":772.468,"text":"我們預估在8、9月吧8、9月就可以掛牌那時間馬上就到了啦所以這些事情的落實我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作是的那院長部長的人選跟次長人選都定了嗎我們希望給社會一個非常清新亮眼而且很有前瞻的"},{"start":772.915,"end":789.143,"text":"希望帶領整個運動部全新起飛我一直強調全新的運動部 全新的部長我想這個是很重要的啦就是必須要找一個有亮點而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力因為後續的行政工作很多嘛"},{"start":789.503,"end":810.742,"text":"凡事起頭難一開始相當很多的行政作業我們很期待啦因為我想運動界體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立也很謝謝賴總統這個喜歡棒球的總統然後願意來把運動部來成立我相信這個對台灣的體育發展運動發展應該是一個跨時代的盛事"},{"start":811.843,"end":839.667,"text":"那最後一個我想部長我們地方有那個大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋也就是這兩條橋是台一線很重要的兩個橋樑那這個橋樑因為年代比較久了我們公路局本席也都會看很多次了也請他們去評估了那現在文送到行政院來那行政院似乎在對預算要用哪一筆錢有一點跟公路局不一樣的看法院長你知道這個事情嗎"},{"start":843.848,"end":865.935,"text":"因為我知道這兩個橋加起來一個36億一個44億將近有81億的工程款相當的多所以現在納入整個省道的改善計畫裡面去所以專業評估是沒有問題的需要做但是預算要來自哪裡譬如說用省道的基金來做或者行政院有其他的錢可以做我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案"},{"start":866.395,"end":883.126,"text":"如果要回到省道基金去做我也希望行政院能夠快速讓交通部來核定這個預算我們盡快來中央考量定案好 謝謝院長那最後我想部長你也要注意一下那個我剛剛注意到那個新聞就是那個英檢的抽測"},{"start":884.369,"end":908.785,"text":"好像各地方國小跟國中各校都有很多的不一樣的看法那這個抽測我相信我了解起來那問題還是主要在於那個時間可能過於衝突就是臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內然後抽到學校去做這個英文線上的這個檢測但是可能這個設備是不是你抽到的學校每一個學校都有這樣的設備"},{"start":910.006,"end":921.797,"text":"那這個可能教育部要再公務員報告事實上可能有一些當然地方政府學校校長聽到抽冊大概都會緊張其實我們這一個我能夠這一個英語的"},{"start":983.978,"end":992.488,"text":"好 謝謝蔡其昌委員的諮詢謝謝左院長 教育部長的備詢 謝謝接下來登記第七號林怡菁委員"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":390,"blocks":[["蔡委員其昌：（15時57分）謝謝主席，請院長跟教育部鄭部長。"],["主席：麻煩再請卓院長、教育部部長備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：蔡委員好。"],["蔡委員其昌：院長好、部長好。"],["鄭部長英耀：委員好。"],["蔡委員其昌：首先要謝謝院長，真的是感謝，過去本席一直在提，希望能夠對於體育設施，特別是臺灣人最喜歡的棒球運動設施，能夠有一些專案型的計畫來改善球場的環境。我很謝謝行政院、謝謝教育部、謝謝體育署，列了教育部體育署優化全民運動與賽會環境計畫，透過這個計畫，現行的職棒場地在過去拿了中央3億的預算，這一點我先在這裡表達感謝。這計畫當中，其實不只棒球場地，本席一直在關心臺灣需要一個國際標準的室內自由車館，我也知道這個計畫中編了6億，要來興建合乎國際標準的室內自由車館，包括臺中、高雄跟臺南都有提出相關的爭取。本席一直很希望能夠在清水這個地方來做好，但不是因為本席是清水人，我想院長你也很清楚，第一個，清水現在已經有一個既有的自行車場地，已經蓋非常久了，但它最大的缺點是因為賽道不是現在主流的250公尺，它的賽道是比較長的……"],["卓院長榮泰：333公尺。"],["蔡委員其昌：對，333公尺，所以我們會希望因為有這一個場地，院長你也曉得，我們海線地區的國中、高中，像大甲高中還有國中等等，都是自行車的重點訓練學校，同時自行車的產業，基本上也是以大甲附近為核心，如果能夠在臺中海線加上這一座室內自行車場，符合現在國際主流250公尺的車場，未來有一個三百多公尺室外的，加上一個250公尺室內的，再加上產業聚落和國高中孩子及臺中市自由車選手的訓練重鎮，整個訓練將會群聚化，也就是在這樣的環境底下訓練也好、舉辦比賽也好，他們就不需要舟車勞頓，讓它變成訓練自由車運動項目的聚落，加上腳踏車產業也都在我們那裡，所以本席一直很希望這樣的計畫能夠產生群聚效應，而不是分散的。當然我相信高雄、臺南他們也有爭取室內車場的理由，我不知道現行評估是只能6億蓋一個，或者行政院如果要推動自行車這個單項運動的時候，其實臺灣不只需要一個場館？院長，不知道你的看法為何？"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝蔡委員，容許我再一次代表廣大國人對於蔡會長帶領國家棒球隊贏得國際讚譽、為國人爭光再次表達尊敬跟肯定。同樣的精神，委員今天關心的是自由車，在臺中清水已經有一個現有的場地，它不符合國際的標準，我們希望能夠把它整建，我們編了2,500萬。另外，委員希望能夠有一個新的自由車場是符合250公尺的標準場地，這個經費評估起來可能高達4億元左右，將來運動部成立之後會推廣更多的全民體育，我們在這個情況底下再來做統合規劃，是不是容許在那個時候一方面整建，一方面思考是不是要增建一個新的，同時在臺中地區，來做一個通盤的規劃。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，院長你的意思我懂，你也不反對啦……"],["卓院長榮泰：不反對。"],["蔡委員其昌：只是必須要等未來運動部成立之後更系統性的規劃，對於自由車這個競技活動，到底我們需要幾個場館、怎麼蓋，應該要有一個比較通盤性的考量。"],["卓院長榮泰：半年內運動部就會成立，希望幾個月內能夠移交給他們，做更長遠的規劃。"],["蔡委員其昌：是，我還是謝謝院長，我相信我們臺中有很強的競爭力，市政府也提出願意支持，臺中市政府常常不願意支持，但這一次是支持的。所以我想在這樣的情況底下，中央、地方可以合力推動自行車這個單項運動，未來有更大的奪牌可能跟機會，這是本席今天跟院長講這件事情很重要的原因。","第二個，剛剛謝謝院長對我的誇讚，其實我不是選手，重點還是選手……"],["卓院長榮泰：這是大家心裡真正的話。"],["蔡委員其昌：我們的選手很認真。我剛剛提到，我們在賽會環境計畫裡面編列了3億的預算，過去大概就編列在4個球場，現在一部分已經完工了，像桃園的樂天棒球場8,000萬。我也跟院長報告，過去本席在當副院長的時候就一直在提這個，但我們的球場都是地方政府蓋的，所以維護也必須要地方政府加上球團依照契約分工來做球場的改善，但地方政府常常一句話講：沒錢。我常常爭取，他們就是說沒錢。但12強世界冠軍之後，現在地方政府都比較有錢了，地方政府忽然之間對棒球這項運動都比較支持，所以我想要打鐵趁熱，意思是說，事實上我們編了3億並不是中央全額買單，而是中央出了3億，有了誘因來協助地方政府首長願意出錢來把他們轄下所有的棒球場加以改善。你看我們桃園球場，中央出了8,000萬，不夠的錢就由地方政府跟樂天球團來出，所以你看現在的桃園球場已經不會像過去一樣動輒下雨就淹水，場地就不能使用；過去比賽打到一半會熄電，現在完全都把它改善好了，樂天球場比過去來講已經好很多；新莊棒球場也是，他們也拿了中央的8,000萬，所以你看新莊球場現在的狀況，富邦的球迷都很高興有一個這麼漂亮的球場；當然有一些比較慢，像洲際球場的廁所到今天才開始興建、開始動工而已，這個是比較慢的。","本席今天也要藉此機會說一下，因為有些球場的預算在這3億裡面還是分配不到，譬如說澄清湖球場LED螢幕，部長跟院長也知道，相對於過去的螢幕，現在新球場的螢幕是越蓋越大，因為要符合球迷跟比賽間的關聯性、互動性，把比賽的資訊可透過大螢幕讓球迷朋友更加了解，所以你可以看國外新蓋的球場，例如以北海道球場來看，新建的螢幕已經是環繞型的，可以提升整體比賽的精采度，而臺灣作為一個棒球王國，我們其實是需要這樣的建設。","我們先不談北海道球場，回到基本的就好，你看我們現有的球場，澄清湖球場的LED螢幕幾乎是模糊不清啊，連看清楚都有問題，這表示它已經衰退了、老舊了。我也請高雄市政府陳市長來注意這個問題，陳市長也很熱心，他說如果中央可比照球場設施改善計畫，願意來支持，剩下的部分他來負責，我也很謝謝陳其邁市長願意支持球場螢幕的改善。","院長，我知道現在提出這個比較臨時，而我們的預算都有一個程序，是不是未來運動部成立之後，也可以來支持這筆預算？"],["卓院長榮泰：是的，蔡委員，我記得前幾天我們有一個足球比賽，因為國內場地不符標準而被取消了，我覺得對國家來講是很大的損失，我也覺得很慚愧，我們應該讓我們的場地能夠符合國際標準。國家的棒球是國人最喜歡的，也是我們引以為傲的，如果一個場地因為螢幕的設計不足或是老舊，造成大家在觀看比賽、甚至未來迎接國際賽事上的障礙，我覺得我們應該要極力爭取。高雄澄清湖棒球場現在提出一個整建計畫要1.1億左右，但其中並沒有螢幕整建這個項目……"],["蔡委員其昌：這是新增的啦！"],["卓院長榮泰：雖然體育署有承諾要補助六千多萬，但是我剛剛跟部長說，如果地方政府也願意配合，我們體育部想辦法來完成這個事情，讓螢幕能夠翻新。"],["蔡委員其昌：事實上那個六千多萬，再加上這個螢幕的話，大概再加一千多萬就可以完成，因為剩下的錢高雄市政府要出嘛！"],["卓院長榮泰：部長，能不能做到？我們把它……"],["蔡委員其昌：可以嗎？部長，這個可以嗎？"],["鄭部長英耀：可以。"],["卓院長榮泰：跟地方政府一起把它做好。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，謝謝，我代表高雄市、代表很多球迷謝謝行政院跟教育部的支持。","最後一個題目比較大一點，但我覺得這個很重要，我們從1931年開始，我們的KANO（嘉農）在甲子園拿到亞軍，但如果時間再往前推，1906年當時的臺灣總督府中學部（建國中學的前身）成立棒球隊，這是第一個棒球隊，成立於1906年，所以臺灣棒球百年史，事實上我們已經超過百年了，如果以嘉農在甲子園拿到亞軍來看，我們一路從甲子園的亞軍一直走到世界12強的冠軍也接近100年。我也知道運動部未來成立之後有在規劃所謂的運動博物館，但事實上，可能棒球運動的百年歷史所需要的文物、研究，特別是早期我們看到的都只是時間序，沒有具體的內容，這對臺灣作為一個棒球王國或者國人這麼喜愛棒球來說，我們竟然連一個政府支持的……當然現在有一個在桃園，但那個因為飯店經營不善的關係，我看也岌岌可危了，所以臺灣等於沒有一個比較正式的、有系統性的棒球博物館。","如果以其他像美、日等國家來看，他們的棒球博物館大大小小，針對個人或針對棒球運動，真的是很多，日本有10個以上，相信美國也有20個以上大大小小的博物館。本席一直希望能夠有一個棒球博物館的興建，特別是如果以KANO而言已經剛好快100年了，院長跟部長可不可以承諾本席，我們對這件事情要加速來推動？"],["卓院長榮泰：再次謝謝蔡會長的大力疾呼，我覺得臺灣棒球的實力，已經不只是臺灣的棒球，它應該成為世界棒球歷史的一部分，所以我們要為世界留下一個美好的紀錄，也要為後人留下前瞻我們這一代的風光時代，有一個記錄完整的棒球歷史是我們應該要做的，為前人、為後人都應該要做的……"],["蔡委員其昌：對，沒錯。"],["卓院長榮泰：我希望在跟民間團體及協會一起努力之下，用政府的力量加上民間所有的資源，我們一起朝這個方向來努力達成。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，因為我們剛剛所談的很多事情跟運動部有關，我想請問院長，運動部成立的時程有沒有預估大概什麼時候會掛牌？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們預估在8、9月吧。"],["蔡委員其昌：8、9月就可以掛牌了？"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["蔡委員其昌：那時間馬上就到了，所以這些事情的落實，我看接下來運動部要承擔很重要的工作。"],["卓院長榮泰：是的。"],["蔡委員其昌：院長，部長及次長的人選都定了嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們希望給社會一個非常清新、亮眼而且很有前瞻的人選，希望能帶領整個運動部全新起飛，我一直強調全新的運動部、全新的部長。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，我想這個是很重要的，就是必須要找一個有亮點的，而且我認為團隊恐怕要有一定的行政能力……"],["卓院長榮泰：一定要。"],["蔡委員其昌：因為後續這些行政工作很多嘛！"],["卓院長榮泰：凡事起頭難，一開始會有相當多的行政作業。"],["蔡委員其昌：我們很期待啦，我想運動界、體育界大家都很期待運動部的成立，也很謝謝賴總統這位喜歡棒球的總統願意成立運動部，我相信這對臺灣的體育發展、運動發展應該是一件跨時代的盛事啦。","最後，院長，我們地方上有大安溪橋跟大甲溪橋，這是台1線重要的兩座橋梁，這兩座橋梁因為年代比較久了，本席找公路局會勘很多次，也請他們去評估了，現在文送到行政院，行政院似乎對於預算要用哪一筆錢跟公路局有點不一樣的看法，院長知道這件事情嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：我有看到一些書面，但沒有完整看到，我知道這兩座橋一個36億、一個44億，加起來將近有80億的工程款，相當的多，所以現在是納入到整個省道改善計畫裡面。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，所以專業評估是沒有問題的，需要做……"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["蔡委員其昌：但預算要來自哪裡？譬如是用省道的基金來做，或行政院有其他的錢可以做……"],["卓院長榮泰：再來綜合考量。"],["蔡委員其昌：我希望這件事情行政院能夠趕快定案，如果要回到省道基金去做，我也希望行政院快速地讓交通部來核定這個預算，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們儘快來綜合考量、定案。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，謝謝院長。","最後，我想部長也要注意一下，我剛剛注意到一則新聞，就是有關於英檢的抽測，好像各地方的國中、國小各校都有很多不同的看法，這個抽測的部分，據我的瞭解，問題主要在於時間可能過於匆促，臨時之間要大家在一定的時間內，抽到的學校要去做英文線上的檢測，但是在設備上，是不是抽到的每個學校都有這樣的設備？這個可能教育部要再……"],["鄭部長英耀：跟委員報告，事實上可能有一些地方政府、學校校長聽到抽測大概都會緊張，其實我們這個英語的自我檢測，事實上國教署花了非常長的時間，委請臺大外文系、師大外文系及清大資工系將AI融入，完全免費，隨時可以上網登錄，我想國教署本來是立意良善，希望讓每個學校的學生在語言學習的過程中，最後要畢業時能自我檢測，其實隨時都可以上網自我檢測"],["蔡委員其昌：對，部長，因為本席的發言時間已經到了，本席並沒有說這個檢測不好，我的意思是我很支持，但是在技術面上，不要應了臺灣有句話叫「好好鱟刣甲屎那流」！"],["鄭部長英耀：這個我們會來注意。"],["蔡委員其昌：意思是說，你的相關配套、時間的選定是不是應該請署裡面再跟地方教育局去做個溝通？檢測當然是好事，而且中央已經籌劃這麼久了。"],["鄭部長英耀：這個我們來跟地方溝通，因為這是任何時間、任何地點都可以上網去檢測。"],["蔡委員其昌：對，所以可能技術面的問題要去克服，好不好？"],["鄭部長英耀：是。"],["蔡委員其昌：好，謝謝。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝蔡其昌委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長、教育部長的備詢。謝謝。","接下來登記第7號林宜瑾委員、第8號吳沛憶委員、第9號張宏陸委員之質詢均以書面提出，請行政院書面答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。"],["委員吳沛憶書面質詢：","一、IWG（國際女性與運動工作小組）為國際上推動運動性平之重要組織，台灣過往曾多次參與IWG會議，並於109年共同簽署「2014年布萊頓暨赫爾辛基女性與運動宣言」。最近一屆IWG國際論壇將於2026於英國伯明罕舉辦，這是台灣爭取下屆論壇主辦權之契機，並可藉此參與該組織秘書處運作。","為推展運動性平、擴展運動外交，請行政院積極推動由台灣主辦IWG國際論壇。以女子運動外交促進國際參與，並藉此提升台灣於國際運動社群之影響力。","二、少子化下學生總數減少，目前學校多以減班方式因應。以台北市為例，113學年度北市國小新生數為1萬5605人，較前一年減少1775名新生，因此國小一年級減少約39班。","然減班之外，尚可以調整編班人數之方式因應少子化。將班級人數下修，可提升每生平均享有之教育資源，也避免深受家長肯定之教師因減班而被迫調動。故請教育部就《國民小學與國民中學班級編制及教職員員額編制準則》進行研議，討論自現行「國民小學每班學生人數以二十九人為原則」將人數下修。","三、文化部近期推出「百大文化基地」，其願景為「使每一處的文化基地，成為點亮臺灣的據點」。然台北市中正區周遭文化薈萃，公有之文化館所足以從「節點」發展成「網絡」。由文化部及所屬單位管轄者即有：台灣博物館本館、古生物館、南門園區、鐵道部園區、臺灣漫畫基地、國家攝影中心、國家兩廳院、中正紀念堂管理處、歷史博物館、臺北當代工藝設計分館。此外尚有臺灣藝術教育館、郵政博物館、二二八國家紀念館、國家圖書館、民間修繕之菊元百貨等。經整合、串連即可成為台灣的「首都博物館群」並形成「國家級藝文廊道」。","請行政院積極協調各該主管機關，推動各場館之串聯合作，以打造「首都博物館群」、建構「國家級藝文廊道」。"],["委員張宏陸書面質詢：","近期校園意外、霸凌、輕生事件頻傳，年齡層從小學至大學校園皆有相關案件發生，不只讓師生、家長震驚、傷心，也讓事發校園籠罩在低氣壓之中。因此，盼就現行學校心理輔導機制，是否可以接住更多年輕學子，請教育部研擬並提出相關作為。","經查「教育部112年各級學校校園安全及災害事件分析報告」顯示，近幾年「學生自殺自傷每十萬人口死亡率」，在大專校院部分，學生每十萬人口自殺死亡率在97年、98年、103年度較高，104年以後則有緩降趨勢，但106年至112年又持續增高，並於112年上升到自96年來的最高比率；而高級中等學校自殺死亡率亦呈上升趨勢，其每十萬人口自殺死亡率於104年、105年、106年連續三年呈現上升趨勢，雖在107年稍降，但於108年又大幅度攀升，成為自96年調查以來最高，甚至高於大專校院學生，爾後在109年稍降、110年微升、111年大幅下降，而在112年又大幅上升；另外，國中生之每十萬人口自殺死亡率，109年亦上升，110年稍降，但在111年112年持續上升。","綜上所述，無論是大專院校學生，或高中、國中學生，輕生事件比例皆在112年呈現持續升高之趨勢。其次，該報告中亦提到，雖自殺的成因多元，但近年來，多篇研究報告另外指出網路與社群媒體使用增加青少年、大學生的憂鬱自傷風險，縱貫研究探討學生的網路和社交媒體使用與心理健康間的關係，也發現高使用頻率與憂鬱自傷行為密切相關。網路中經歷向上比較、霸凌增加了憂鬱自傷的風險，此現象值得關注。","另，根據衛生福利部提出「112年國人死因統計」中資料顯示，112年12歲-17歲少年死因，事故傷害占32.4%、自殺占18.4%、癌症占13.2%，三者合占少年死亡人數之64.0%。尤其，自2017年起「15-24歲每十萬人自殺死亡率」亦呈現逐年上升趨勢，自2017年的6.4%，在2019年突破9.1%，至2023年上升至10.9%，已創七年新高，「輕生」已成青年不可忽視之議題。","據衛生福利部新聞發布顯示，衛福部去年八月推出「「15-45歲青壯世代心理健康支持方案」，將原本30歲擴大年齡層到45歲，補助每人3次心理諮商費用，然而，亦據教育部統計資料顯示，目前輕生事件發生年齡已擴及15歲以下，既然該方案可向上擴大至45歲，請教是否有評估往下擴及12-15歲的年齡層，擴大年齡層給予更多支援和支持？","再者，依照113年11月29日三讀通過「學生輔導法（部分條文）修正草案」條文所述，為反映實務現場學生輔導需求，本次修法合理調整及增加校園專業輔導人力，未來人員調整編制如下：高級中等以下學校，國民小學專任輔導教師編制調整為20班以下置1人，每滿20班增置1人；國民中學專任輔導教師編制調整為12班以下置1人，每滿12班增置1人，預估修法後國民中小學將再增加603人，總數達5,942人，藉此提升各校輔導人力量能及資源。另高級中等以下學校主管機關學生輔諮中心除依所主管學校數每20校置1人外，增列以學生總數4,500至5,000人置1人規定；另教育部得考量特殊情況，在校園專業輔導人員總數6%範圍內，依需求核予特定主管機關外加人力，修法後至多可增192位，較現行增加約30%。大專校院專業輔導人員生師比也由1,200比1修正為900比1，預計增加216位。","雖然修法後已調整校園輔導教師編制比例，但根據許多資料顯示，教學現場各類輔導教師人力仍存在嚴重不足的情況，教育部亦曾統計，國中預計要到114學年，國小最快更要等到116學年，才能聘足專業輔導教師員額。另外，據台灣師範大學教育心理與輔導學系教授王麗斐曾於報導中表示，目前心理與輔導人員培育的速度遠遠趕不及校園現場的需求。請教在目前專輔師資人力尚未足夠的空窗期，教育部有無其他機制銜接，提供學生足夠的輔導資源？其次，專業輔導人員的職涯可能有不同規劃，教育部是否有研擬其他誘因，吸引或鼓勵專業輔導人員進入校園服務，接住更多的孩子？","及早介入、及早關心，或許就能挽救一個個正要在人生道路上發光發熱的學子，然而校園專業輔導教師人力的不足，無法給予學生在迷惘時提供適時的支援，遂造成學子輕生事件呈現升高之趨勢，尤其，根據教育部統計資料，補足國中、國小相關專業人力皆非短期內可達成之目標，在此資源與支援的空窗期，希冀政府能提供學子和教學現場人員更多協助，接住每一位孩子。因此，本席提出本質詢，請教育部研擬解決對策。"],["主席：報告院會，休息10分鐘。","休息（16時14分）","繼續開會（16時25分）"]],"agenda":{"page_end":195,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-9","speakers":["韓國瑜","廖偉翔","顏寬恒","李彥秀","陳玉珍","馬文君","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","牛煦庭","黃珊珊","鍾佳濱","吳秉叡","沈發惠","許宇甄","李昆澤","林思銘","葛如鈞","許智傑","林倩綺","蔡其昌","吳沛憶","李坤城","丁學忠","劉書彬"],"page_start":99,"meetingDate":["2025-04-29"],"gazette_id":"1143901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1143901_00004","1143901_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第9次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─","agenda_id":"1143901_00004"}}}