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00:02:20,807\n因為是季往開來我們看下一頁就可以知道呢它是從民國14年的時候開始然後呢一直延伸到民國的這個54年的這個到台灣的這樣的一個在開館那我們就想問一下在下一頁看到說那有沒有針對你們現在辦了這麼多的國內的跟國外的跟合作的情況那有沒有跟其他的特別針對這個季往的部分呢有一些活動來去呼應這百年的\n\n9\n00:02:39,396 --> 00:03:02,290\n跟文報告就是我們有做那個驗死的一個會編那驗死的會編的話基本上來講的話我們從那個故宮成立的歷史然後一直延續到最近這個已經出版了那另外的話就是我們在那個故宮的官網上面有所謂的故宮的過去的歷史這些部分那因為\n\n10\n00:03:02,930 --> 00:03:27,830\n對於故宮百年大家的期待都希望說有一些所謂的超級大展但是作為歷史性的展覽的話基本上來講我們並不是沒有做我們現在請藍燕他們在今年的年底就做一個展覽好OK那我們繼續向下看當然台灣的深耕的部分呢碧綠丸也是不容易的那我們再看看就針對那你的執行成效什麼我們就來看往下一頁\n\n11\n00:03:30,339 --> 00:03:38,240\n看到的時候呢你們當初在編列這個預算的時候預期成果你可以看到在第一部分看到的就是\n\n12\n00:03:39,440 --> 00:04:06,516\n前面性的回顧剛剛有提到同時展現學術、研究、科技、文創的量能但是這一個部分到底是怎麼樣的量能沒有判斷尤其是到下面的情況同樣的下面那兩個總的預算也是整個部分因此想要詢問一下你們在針對故宮100plus的活動當中研究、科技、文創的具體量化指標是什麼尤其跟上一年度或是甚至像柯志恩委員所說那跟十年前的這樣子大慶有沒有什麼樣的對照比較\n\n13\n00:04:09,949 --> 00:04:31,481\n這個部分的話的確是我們沒有特別去進行所謂的量化指標的一個比較因為對故宮來講的話百年宴慶不管90或是100的話它都是一個階段性的一個自我砥礪因為重要的話是100年之後我們會有什麼樣的面目而不是說到100年做一個總結然後之後\n\n14\n00:04:32,842 --> 00:04:48,407\n就重新開始因為都是延續現在的工作因為歷史是傳承下去尤其是故宮這部分所以這部分你當然可以做一些相關性的比較尤其是我們是越來越開放我們是對世界開放的部分甚至民友的工作項目當中也是向下扎根的確是可以做一個當然不只是量化那執行的部分當然你可以成就希望再提醒在後面再繼續進行\n\n15\n00:04:56,229 --> 00:05:15,666\n在下一頁我們看另外你們有個重點是在多元平權這也是我覺得是在呼應到我們是人權治國的這個內涵那往下你看到了我看到是在北院的這個兒童學藝中心南院的兒童創藝中心跟互動的事的這個部分是很多那再往下可以看到有這些包括樂齡\n\n16\n00:05:17,287 --> 00:05:46,662\n施治跨鄰的部分比較稀有的這樣的一些內容這是非常好的甚至還跟榮總有簽署三年為期的合作備忘錄透過這樣子一個藝術跟醫療的交流透過這個認知牌的部分這個是一個非常創新而且是跨域的合作那再想詢問的是在下面那有沒有想到說更多的這個醫療機構尤其是到南越這一部分的時候在對熱靈的這個服務者或是在醫療部分有沒有什麼樣的新的規劃或是願景\n\n17\n00:05:49,181 --> 00:06:08,112\n基本上來講的話就是我們現在有跟長庚再繼續再談因為醫療院所的話基本上故宮是作為一個示範性的一個嫁接就跟那個醫療院所做一個社會處方簽的一個嫁接工作\n\n18\n00:06:08,812 --> 00:06:29,117\n跟委員報告老實講故宮有再多的人再多的人力的話我們都沒有辦法面面其道跟所有的醫療院所做合作因為這個東西的話是沒有辦法的好我只是想說這邊透過樂齡問你們有事實上考到這邊那就暫時量力而為啦我可以理解我們都盡量就跟醫療院所然後透過醫療院所的方式去做\n\n19\n00:06:29,497 --> 00:06:53,709\n因為它事實上的效果可能惡靈的藝術的治療效果可能也文化醫療效果可能也不錯好那繼續往下我們看到有幾個提醒因為可能是漏掉就在新故宮的故宮公共化的議題上面當中有一些的指標看到的是它是故宮的公共化帶動觀光產業這個中程計畫當中你可以看到它當初在設計這個KPI的指數當中從111年開始到116年你們設計的這個\n\n20\n00:06:58,951 --> 00:07:25,049\n人數都才維持到觀光人數就是245萬人跟實際上的人數你看到都112年都已經超過了那225年2025年當中你們也說到是要超過350萬人但我們現在再往前看一下這個地方這個部分在於說剛剛那個KPI的人數這部分是有問題的那這是在你們公開網頁上面第二個部分呢就在於說看到另外的這個消費參觀的消費生產者的KPI當中也是\n\n21\n00:07:27,631 --> 00:07:40,008\n你可以看到112年到116年都是數字都一模一樣啦那都沒有改變嗎因為我想應該是有改變可能這是一個疏忽啦就請大家請貴賓館貴賓院在上面就修改然後另外的部分這是剛剛已經談過了我們繼續再往下看新的一個議題上面\n\n22\n00:07:46,018 --> 00:08:01,282\n追蹤管理就是當初昭緯有排我們到南院去做文物的管理當初有在幾個禮拜之前你們有設計到庫存的文物管理的部分提到無線射頻辨識RFID這個技術當初我們就發現到一個問題是說\n\n23\n00:08:05,623 --> 00:08:22,463\n他只會感應到文物的推遲會感應到個別文物這邊然後他偵測亮燈等等的那如果未歸車務戶的話就是沒有還是顯示一個正常的情況那目前情況這個制度這個機制有沒有做一些改進這個部分的話其實是我故意\n\n24\n00:08:23,924 --> 00:08:37,956\n給那個委員看到的一個bug就是說我們單件的物件是沒有問題推車也沒有問題但是整批的掃描的話以現在來講技術上還要克服所以我是故意讓委員知道說我們有這樣的\n\n25\n00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:54,596\n那現在我們接下來的話要努力的目標那這個目標的話基本上來講的話要跟業界不是故宮單獨就可以解決的問題因為單獨技術上解決的話當然是很簡單可是整批的話基本上來講它還是有技術上的困難我們會持續來努力\n\n26\n00:08:56,758 --> 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而且是跨域的合作那再想詢問的是在下面那有沒有想到說更多的這個醫療機構尤其是到南越這一部分的時候在對熱靈的這個服務者或是在醫療部分有沒有什麼樣的新的規劃或是願景\n349181\t368112\t基本上來講的話就是我們現在有跟長庚再繼續再談因為醫療院所的話基本上故宮是作為一個示範性的一個嫁接就跟那個醫療院所做一個社會處方簽的一個嫁接工作\n368812\t389117\t跟委員報告老實講故宮有再多的人再多的人力的話我們都沒有辦法面面其道跟所有的醫療院所做合作因為這個東西的話是沒有辦法的好 我只是想說這邊透過樂齡問你們有事實上考到這邊那就暫時量力而為啦我可以理解我們都盡量就跟醫療院所然後透過醫療院所的方式去做\n389497\t413709\t因為它事實上的效果可能惡靈的藝術的治療效果可能也文化醫療效果可能也不錯好 那繼續往下我們看到有幾個提醒因為可能是漏掉就在新故宮的故宮公共化的議題上面當中有一些的指標看到的是它是故宮的公共化帶動觀光產業這個中程計畫當中你可以看到它當初在設計這個KPI的指數當中從111年開始到116年你們設計的這個\n418951\t445049\t人數都才維持到觀光人數就是245萬人跟實際上的人數你看到都112年都已經超過了那225年2025年當中你們也說到是要超過350萬人但我們現在再往前看一下這個地方這個部分在於說剛剛那個KPI的人數這部分是有問題的那這是在你們公開網頁上面第二個部分呢就在於說看到另外的這個消費參觀的消費生產者的KPI當中也是\n447631\t460008\t你可以看到112年到116年都是數字都一模一樣啦那都沒有改變嗎因為我想應該是有改變可能這是一個疏忽啦就請大家請貴賓館貴賓院在上面就修改然後另外的部分這是剛剛已經談過了我們繼續再往下看新的一個議題上面\n466018\t481282\t追蹤管理就是當初昭緯有排我們到南院去做文物的管理當初有在幾個禮拜之前你們有設計到庫存的文物管理的部分提到無線射頻辨識RFID這個技術當初我們就發現到一個問題是說\n485623\t502463\t他只會感應到文物的推遲會感應到個別文物這邊然後他偵測亮燈等等的那如果未歸車務戶的話就是沒有還是顯示一個正常的情況那目前情況這個制度這個機制有沒有做一些改進這個部分的話其實是我故意\n503924\t517956\t給那個委員看到的一個bug就是說我們單件的物件是沒有問題推車也沒有問題但是整批的掃描的話以現在來講技術上還要克服所以我是故意讓委員知道說我們有這樣的\n519418\t534596\t那現在我們接下來的話要努力的目標那這個目標的話基本上來講的話要跟業界不是故宮單獨就可以解決的問題因為單獨技術上解決的話當然是很簡單可是整批的話基本上來講它還是有技術上的困難我們會持續來努力\n536758\t560210\t好那就謝謝蕭院長因為我們從仔細的參觀之後發覺到還有包括你們報告當中看到說整個故宮的整個團隊是有很重要的是把文化就是在雖然在台灣的部分但是他的深耕的文化發展是不要是很重要尤其是文化是我們的根好那就希望那繼續的往這擴大的這樣到國際的交流跟國內的深耕的這個計畫進行那就辛苦了謝謝好謝謝維恩謝謝劉書斌\n","txt":"有請蕭院長質詢謝謝被質詢\n劉院長我們故宮今年是一百週年是一個很重要的日子我們也知道故宮它本身是一個文化的宣傳它甚至包括了有以剛才的報告講到的包括觀光的部分還包括了是擴及到現在也許是你重要的部分是在教育領域的一個擴展\n因為文化是我們所以特別要去重視到我們現在進入到第一個我想要關注的焦點是在開放多元跟擴大參與這個情況往下看看到你的報告當中提到說的校管的這個管校的合作計畫包括跟中正大學合開的這樣子的一個通識課程還有其他\n青少年的導覽跟博物館的學術研討會詢問說未來的規劃是不是有在跟更多的大專院校做共同的合作課程規劃\n跟委員報告就是我們有那個校園大使的一個培訓然後我們也甄選那個各個大專業校裡面的那個學生然後做一個教員推廣活動另外的話所謂的管校合作計畫不只是說因為跟中正大學跟永慶高中因為我們有很多線上的開放的一些課程的話都是給學校\n希望說你的課程這部分如果有線上課程是很好利用到我們數位化的優勢是不是你有KPI的部分到底有多少人去瀏覽的這部分甚至有時候要填一下問卷也是非常好的事情可以嗎\n呃 可以 而且這些數據的話我們可以給委員一個順便的資料好 謝謝 謝謝好 那第二個重點呢我就討論到的是故宮100Plus的這個季往開來的這個主題那你們也辦了這個Logo的一個徵選是非常漂亮的有它的意義存在的\n因為是季往開來我們看下一頁就可以知道呢它是從民國14年的時候開始然後呢一直延伸到民國的這個54年的這個到台灣的這樣的一個在開館那我們就想問一下在下一頁看到說那有沒有針對你們現在辦了這麼多的國內的跟國外的跟合作的情況那有沒有跟其他的特別針對這個季往的部分呢有一些活動來去呼應這百年的\n跟文報告就是我們有做那個驗死的一個會編那驗死的會編的話基本上來講的話我們從那個故宮成立的歷史然後一直延續到最近這個已經出版了那另外的話就是我們在那個故宮的官網上面有所謂的故宮的過去的歷史這些部分那因為\n對於故宮百年大家的期待都希望說有一些所謂的超級大展但是作為歷史性的展覽的話基本上來講我們並不是沒有做我們現在請藍燕他們在今年的年底就做一個展覽好 OK那我們繼續向下看當然台灣的深耕的部分呢碧綠丸也是不容易的那我們再看看就針對那你的執行成效什麼我們就來看往下一頁\n看到的時候呢你們當初在編列這個預算的時候預期成果你可以看到在第一部分看到的就是\n前面性的回顧剛剛有提到同時展現學術、研究、科技、文創的量能但是這一個部分到底是怎麼樣的量能沒有判斷尤其是到下面的情況同樣的下面那兩個總的預算也是整個部分因此想要詢問一下你們在針對故宮100plus的活動當中研究、科技、文創的具體量化指標是什麼尤其跟上一年度或是甚至像柯志恩委員所說那跟十年前的這樣子大慶有沒有什麼樣的對照比較\n這個部分的話的確是我們沒有特別去進行所謂的量化指標的一個比較因為對故宮來講的話百年宴慶不管90或是100的話它都是一個階段性的一個自我砥礪因為重要的話是100年之後我們會有什麼樣的面目而不是說到100年做一個總結然後之後\n就重新開始因為都是延續現在的工作因為歷史是傳承下去尤其是故宮這部分所以這部分你當然可以做一些相關性的比較尤其是我們是越來越開放我們是對世界開放的部分甚至民友的工作項目當中也是向下扎根的確是可以做一個當然不只是量化那執行的部分當然你可以成就希望再提醒在後面再繼續進行\n在下一頁我們看另外你們有個重點是在多元平權這也是我覺得是在呼應到我們是人權治國的這個內涵那往下你看到了我看到是在北院的這個兒童學藝中心南院的兒童創藝中心跟互動的事的這個部分是很多那再往下可以看到有這些包括樂齡\n施治 跨鄰的部分 比較稀有的這樣的一些內容這是非常好的 甚至還跟榮總有簽署三年為期的合作備忘錄透過這樣子一個藝術跟醫療的交流透過這個認知牌的部分這個是一個非常創新 而且是跨域的合作那再想詢問的是在下面那有沒有想到說更多的這個醫療機構尤其是到南越這一部分的時候在對熱靈的這個服務者或是在醫療部分有沒有什麼樣的新的規劃或是願景\n基本上來講的話就是我們現在有跟長庚再繼續再談因為醫療院所的話基本上故宮是作為一個示範性的一個嫁接就跟那個醫療院所做一個社會處方簽的一個嫁接工作\n跟委員報告老實講故宮有再多的人再多的人力的話我們都沒有辦法面面其道跟所有的醫療院所做合作因為這個東西的話是沒有辦法的好 我只是想說這邊透過樂齡問你們有事實上考到這邊那就暫時量力而為啦我可以理解我們都盡量就跟醫療院所然後透過醫療院所的方式去做\n因為它事實上的效果可能惡靈的藝術的治療效果可能也文化醫療效果可能也不錯好 那繼續往下我們看到有幾個提醒因為可能是漏掉就在新故宮的故宮公共化的議題上面當中有一些的指標看到的是它是故宮的公共化帶動觀光產業這個中程計畫當中你可以看到它當初在設計這個KPI的指數當中從111年開始到116年你們設計的這個\n人數都才維持到觀光人數就是245萬人跟實際上的人數你看到都112年都已經超過了那225年2025年當中你們也說到是要超過350萬人但我們現在再往前看一下這個地方這個部分在於說剛剛那個KPI的人數這部分是有問題的那這是在你們公開網頁上面第二個部分呢就在於說看到另外的這個消費參觀的消費生產者的KPI當中也是\n你可以看到112年到116年都是數字都一模一樣啦那都沒有改變嗎因為我想應該是有改變可能這是一個疏忽啦就請大家請貴賓館貴賓院在上面就修改然後另外的部分這是剛剛已經談過了我們繼續再往下看新的一個議題上面\n追蹤管理就是當初昭緯有排我們到南院去做文物的管理當初有在幾個禮拜之前你們有設計到庫存的文物管理的部分提到無線射頻辨識RFID這個技術當初我們就發現到一個問題是說\n他只會感應到文物的推遲會感應到個別文物這邊然後他偵測亮燈等等的那如果未歸車務戶的話就是沒有還是顯示一個正常的情況那目前情況這個制度這個機制有沒有做一些改進這個部分的話其實是我故意\n給那個委員看到的一個bug就是說我們單件的物件是沒有問題推車也沒有問題但是整批的掃描的話以現在來講技術上還要克服所以我是故意讓委員知道說我們有這樣的\n那現在我們接下來的話要努力的目標那這個目標的話基本上來講的話要跟業界不是故宮單獨就可以解決的問題因為單獨技術上解決的話當然是很簡單可是整批的話基本上來講它還是有技術上的困難我們會持續來努力\n好那就謝謝蕭院長因為我們從仔細的參觀之後發覺到還有包括你們報告當中看到說整個故宮的整個團隊是有很重要的是把文化就是在雖然在台灣的部分但是他的深耕的文化發展是不要是很重要尤其是文化是我們的根好那就希望那繼續的往這擴大的這樣到國際的交流跟國內的深耕的這個計畫進行那就辛苦了謝謝好謝謝維恩謝謝劉書斌\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.069 --> 00:11.309\n有請蕭院長質詢謝謝被質詢\n\n00:17.232 --> 00:38.992\n劉院長我們故宮今年是一百週年是一個很重要的日子我們也知道故宮它本身是一個文化的宣傳它甚至包括了有以剛才的報告講到的包括觀光的部分還包括了是擴及到現在也許是你重要的部分是在教育領域的一個擴展\n\n00:41.154 --> 01:00.753\n因為文化是我們所以特別要去重視到我們現在進入到第一個我想要關注的焦點是在開放多元跟擴大參與這個情況往下看看到你的報告當中提到說的校管的這個管校的合作計畫包括跟中正大學合開的這樣子的一個通識課程還有其他\n\n01:02.595 --> 01:05.121\n青少年的導覽跟博物館的學術研討會詢問說未來的規劃是不是有在跟更多的大專院校做共同的合作課程規劃\n\n01:12.700 --> 01:36.255\n跟委員報告就是我們有那個校園大使的一個培訓然後我們也甄選那個各個大專業校裡面的那個學生然後做一個教員推廣活動另外的話所謂的管校合作計畫不只是說因為跟中正大學跟永慶高中因為我們有很多線上的開放的一些課程的話都是給學校\n\n01:37.716 --> 01:51.267\n希望說你的課程這部分如果有線上課程是很好利用到我們數位化的優勢是不是你有KPI的部分到底有多少人去瀏覽的這部分甚至有時候要填一下問卷也是非常好的事情可以嗎\n\n01:53.069 --> 02:09.118\n呃可以而且這些數據的話我們可以給委員一個順便的資料好謝謝謝謝好那第二個重點呢我就討論到的是故宮100Plus的這個季往開來的這個主題那你們也辦了這個Logo的一個徵選是非常漂亮的有它的意義存在的\n\n02:09.918 --> 02:20.807\n因為是季往開來我們看下一頁就可以知道呢它是從民國14年的時候開始然後呢一直延伸到民國的這個54年的這個到台灣的這樣的一個在開館那我們就想問一下在下一頁看到說那有沒有針對你們現在辦了這麼多的國內的跟國外的跟合作的情況那有沒有跟其他的特別針對這個季往的部分呢有一些活動來去呼應這百年的\n\n02:39.396 --> 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