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00:01:03,843\n我們就從其中一個司法法制委員會這個禮拜排的議案作為切入光是3月25號強行通過的違法會議非法表決所造成的空殼公投我要再次強調如果我們來看這個時間軸事實上當天是早上9點鐘會議開始可是呢\n\n5\n00:01:21,387 --> 00:01:49,028\n當天因為有游志斌的事件到底他是誰的助理到底他是誰的辦公室的同仁那不管是陳玉珍或者是韓國瑜院長都交代的不清不楚我們甚至懷疑有人說謊那一整天開始呢韓國瑜院長不願意處理不過韓國瑜院長不處理這件事情也不是第一次了在這一年多來他始終呢就是只會訂便當慶祝大家生日這個康樂鼓掌非常盡責但是身為一個立法院長實在失職\n\n6\n00:01:50,369 --> 00:02:06,778\n結果到了當天下午的三點半據傳有竹聯幫要在康源餐廳聚餐選幫主其實這件事情第一時間內政部就有處理可是我們要問到底是誰放任黑道做這樣的事情到了五點鐘我們發現黃國昌\n\n7\n00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:25,272\n為什麼要針對黃國昌呢因為他當天提出一個要延長會議的臨時提案可是他一整天都沒有來立法院而且呢這個延長會議的提案事實上他也必須要主席宣布可是很奇怪是主席也沒有宣布他們兩個就像彼此都會通靈一樣\n\n8\n00:02:26,713 --> 00:02:39,908\n在六點鐘以後呢所有的國民黨還有民眾黨委員就一起衝進立法院在會議時間之後要一起來開會然後呢當時我們就問他到底現在是不是開會時間他其實也講不清楚結果\n\n9\n00:02:41,799 --> 00:03:05,880\n當時國會頻道的直播我們還發現他切換到休息這個畫面也就是說他們呢自己知道這件事情是有問題的所以他們選在一個奇怪的開會時間而且我們要再次強調當天其實已經超過了法定的開會時間可是他們依然還是要強行開會而這個主導者不管是傅坤祺不管是韓國瑜不管是黃國昌我想國人都看在眼裡喔\n\n10\n00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:24,596\n那接下來我們來看一下關於立法院的資安防護這件事情事實上呢在去年司法法制的中嘉賓委員就已經有問到立法院每一個月遭受到資安的攻擊將近90萬次每月90萬次是一個什麼概念一個月如果30天來算\n\n11\n00:03:27,246 --> 00:03:52,415\n這個算法算下去我們可以想見立法院絕對有很大的問題那遭受到這個攻擊到底資安人員如何面對或是相關的系統如何處理而韓國瑜身為立法院長他主理著行政單位他們有沒有意識到這件事情還是他們認為來自對岸的敵意不需要處理反正呢國共一家親這件事情好像已然是一個事實所以他們完全不想去防護\n\n12\n00:03:53,095 --> 00:04:13,599\n完全不想去保護立法院相關子案的安全所以他們才決定今天不來嗎是這樣嗎接下來呢他們又說他們非常非常在意共諜的案子那我們就說該查就查該辦就辦事實上所有的民進黨籍立委當時有牽涉到這個相關共諜案的立委也都說該查就查該辦就辦絕不寬待\n\n13\n00:04:16,260 --> 00:04:28,223\n那我想這個立場如果已經這麼清楚了為什麼藍白在這件事情上始終不敢面對這件事情還有之前我在司法法制委員會質詢過關於連署造假、抄錄名冊、死亡連署的議題國家無分黨派滲透行為無分藍綠白只要有違法疑慮應該就要秉公查辦絕不護短\n\n14\n00:04:38,706 --> 00:04:58,561\n那民進黨也絕對不會像國民黨一樣去支持違法或造假的行為很可惜我們看到國民黨不只造假昨天還有人公開承認自己就是促成這個錯誤案件的人講到共諜其實共諜最大受害者是國民黨但國民黨恐怕已經忘記了自己的歷史過去呢\n\n15\n00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:18,717\n在國共內戰的時候,很多人都發現了,相關的史料裡面發現了,中國共產黨派非常多的人滲透在國民黨的身邊,不管是連開會的人啊,會議記錄,甚至是做小小小小事情的人,大到官階降臨,都有共諜在滲透在中國國民黨裡頭。\n\n16\n00:05:19,537 --> 00:05:47,319\n所以呢這可能也是當時國共內戰國民黨整個大敗的原因如果國民黨就是深受共諜毒害最深的苦衷那他們為什麼到今天為止卻選擇跟共諜站在一起就連昨天國台辦都出來幫他們說話說426他們做得好goodjob我實在是不知道到底誰才是應該最努力反共諜但現在卻跟共諜站在一起的中國國民黨你們真的對不起你們的老祖宗\n\n17\n00:05:48,320 --> 00:06:06,085\n好接下來我們要繼續講我主席我實在是覺得沒有人回答我好煩喔心情很不好餒好接下來我要講喔國民黨不只做這樣的事情他們甚至提名了一個不分區上一屆的不分區無私懷\n\n18\n00:06:07,365 --> 00:06:26,705\n吳斯懷這位退將呢他當時被提名為不分區他也做了一屆可是當時他卻協同多名退將到北京的人民大會堂聽習近平講話你看他做那個端端正正的樣子一副好像要效忠國家的樣子但是我們來看一下他效忠的國家是哪一國\n\n19\n00:06:27,563 --> 00:06:48,539\n是中國呢這樣子的國民黨不分區立法委員難道還要我們相信中國共產黨是反共的嗎中國國民黨是反共的嗎當然不是甚至他們的國安破口翁小林還在公開質詢的時候要求農業部陳部長提供所謂的暫時的糧食配送站地圖這個更加的荒謬\n\n20\n00:06:49,119 --> 00:07:06,066\n如果是暫時的機敏資料現在提供給你們這些舔共賣台的立委真的適合嗎?而你還敢在公開視訊講這個話真的是在跟主持告訴主持說我做得很好goodjob嘉義還是說你其實是要惹怒更多的台灣人\n\n21\n00:07:07,779 --> 00:07:25,066\n那很多時候中國國民黨會說到底誰才是共諜誰才是跟中國站在一起的人可笑的是在四二六的前夕今年四二六前夕連勝文也就是國民黨的副主席他才跑去見宋濤他說了什麼話呢他說\n\n22\n00:07:26,326 --> 00:07:40,710\n中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候台灣應該要主動幫忙中國這是什麼後面的言論接下來4月17號往前推個幾天洪秀柱一樣去拜見國台辦主席宋濤他繼續談兩岸一家親他繼續談九二共識\n\n23\n00:07:45,091 --> 00:08:08,147\n他們呢每一個人都急著去填貢每一個人都急著要把台灣賣出去大家更不要忘記去年4月26號在0403大地震之後呢傅昆奇說要去促成兩岸交流他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的網顧你更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府\n\n24\n00:08:08,747 --> 00:08:12,830\n這就是現在國民黨的樣態所以呢可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子才讓周萬來他可以選擇不來才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會藐視主席這樣的行為最後我們來看一下為了情資的控管\n\n25\n00:08:26,361 --> 00:08:53,204\n民進黨的委員提出了多項關於國安法案也就是兩岸人民關係條例我們辦公室當然也有提案我們的要求非常簡單立法委員附中必須申報可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下到目前為止所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過300多次而這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安國民黨居心何在其實我們真的都看不懂\n\n26\n00:08:54,005 --> 00:09:17,081\n基本上在台灣所有的政務官縣市首長還有大多數的基層軍公教去中國以前都必須要報備這個是有相關的法規範可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員卻沒有相關任何的風險管理機制我們真的覺得非常的荒謬更可笑的是林國成民眾黨的立法委員還在總質詢當中聲稱說這沒有黨啦這叫暫緩\n\n27\n00:09:22,765 --> 00:09:38,421\n就像陳玉珍打我一樣卻叫做排除這就是現在的國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情他們不僅擋法案他們在立法院有暴力行為甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法法師委員會都可以選擇不出席\n\n28\n00:09:40,183 --> 00:09:50,772\n藐視司法法制委員會我想這個是他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事大家真的都看在眼裡這個打假球的行為我想真的是要停止所以我簡單的呼籲雖然他沒有來我還是要講給他聽如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案我們堅持部分黨派該查就查該辦就辦而立法院我們自己也\n\n29\n00:10:02,242 --> 00:10:25,375\n應該要快速訂定相關的內規防止國會助理涉入共諜案還有相關的立法委員附中必須申報的法案我們希望可以儘速排審進入委員會不要再被擋在程序委員會了如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安就請不要再打假球好以上空氣質詢完畢謝謝主席好謝謝程培委員接下來我們請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2694\t19759\t我會說法院的原因就是 要質詢就沒人 要自己想這個是我來立法院兩年多以來第一次面對空蕩蕩的被巡台 這也算是一個全新的經驗不過我必須要說 這個經驗是不好的經驗所以主席我們沒有現實啦\n21926\t38039\t報告主席我們沒有限時對不對我看你沒有按計時器時間自有調控一下反正現在來了少我盡量給大家方便好謝謝主席來我們來看一下其實這三天的安排的議題其實對於整個立法院也好\n39620\t59001\t都有非常重要實質的意義不管是秘書處行政部門或者是總務處人事處本來就要對相關業務是處於一個必須要向立法院報告的狀態可是我們非常遺憾的是過去這一年多以來在藍白多數主導立法院情況下屢屢發生非常多荒謬的事情\n59702\t63843\t我們就從其中一個司法法制委員會這個禮拜排的議案作為切入光是3月25號強行通過的違法會議非法表決所造成的空殼公投我要再次強調如果我們來看這個時間軸事實上當天是早上9點鐘會議開始可是呢\n81387\t109028\t當天因為有游志斌的事件到底他是誰的助理到底他是誰的辦公室的同仁那不管是陳玉珍或者是韓國瑜院長都交代的不清不楚我們甚至懷疑有人說謊那一整天開始呢韓國瑜院長不願意處理不過韓國瑜院長不處理這件事情也不是第一次了在這一年多來他始終呢就是只會訂便當慶祝大家生日這個康樂鼓掌非常盡責但是身為一個立法院長實在失職\n110369\t126778\t結果到了當天下午的三點半據傳有竹聯幫要在康源餐廳聚餐選幫主其實這件事情第一時間內政部就有處理可是我們要問到底是誰放任黑道做這樣的事情到了五點鐘我們發現黃國昌\n129199\t145272\t為什麼要針對黃國昌呢因為他當天提出一個要延長會議的臨時提案可是他一整天都沒有來立法院而且呢這個延長會議的提案事實上他也必須要主席宣布可是很奇怪是主席也沒有宣布他們兩個就像彼此都會通靈一樣\n146713\t159908\t在六點鐘以後呢所有的國民黨還有民眾黨委員就一起衝進立法院在會議時間之後要一起來開會然後呢當時我們就問他到底現在是不是開會時間他其實也講不清楚結果\n161799\t185880\t當時國會頻道的直播我們還發現他切換到休息這個畫面也就是說他們呢自己知道這件事情是有問題的所以他們選在一個奇怪的開會時間而且我們要再次強調當天其實已經超過了法定的開會時間可是他們依然還是要強行開會而這個主導者不管是傅坤祺不管是韓國瑜不管是黃國昌我想國人都看在眼裡喔\n186500\t204596\t那接下來我們來看一下關於立法院的資安防護這件事情事實上呢在去年司法法制的中嘉賓委員就已經有問到立法院每一個月遭受到資安的攻擊將近90萬次每月90萬次是一個什麼概念一個月如果30天來算\n207246\t232415\t這個算法算下去我們可以想見立法院絕對有很大的問題那遭受到這個攻擊到底資安人員如何面對或是相關的系統如何處理而韓國瑜身為立法院長他主理著行政單位他們有沒有意識到這件事情還是他們認為來自對岸的敵意不需要處理反正呢國共一家親這件事情好像已然是一個事實所以他們完全不想去防護\n233095\t253599\t完全不想去保護立法院相關子案的安全所以他們才決定今天不來嗎是這樣嗎接下來呢他們又說他們非常非常在意共諜的案子那我們就說該查就查該辦就辦事實上所有的民進黨籍立委當時有牽涉到這個相關共諜案的立委也都說該查就查該辦就辦絕不寬待\n256260\t268223\t那我想這個立場如果已經這麼清楚了為什麼藍白在這件事情上始終不敢面對這件事情還有之前我在司法法制委員會質詢過關於連署造假、抄錄名冊、死亡連署的議題國家無分黨派滲透行為無分藍綠白只要有違法疑慮應該就要秉公查辦絕不護短\n278706\t298561\t那民進黨也絕對不會像國民黨一樣去支持違法或造假的行為很可惜我們看到國民黨不只造假昨天還有人公開承認自己就是促成這個錯誤案件的人講到共諜其實共諜最大受害者是國民黨但國民黨恐怕已經忘記了自己的歷史過去呢\n299750\t318717\t在國共內戰的時候,很多人都發現了,相關的史料裡面發現了,中國共產黨派非常多的人滲透在國民黨的身邊,不管是連開會的人啊,會議記錄,甚至是做小小小小事情的人,大到官階降臨,都有共諜在滲透在中國國民黨裡頭。\n319537\t347319\t所以呢這可能也是當時國共內戰國民黨整個大敗的原因如果國民黨就是深受共諜毒害最深的苦衷那他們為什麼到今天為止卻選擇跟共諜站在一起就連昨天國台辦都出來幫他們說話說426他們做得好good job我實在是不知道到底誰才是應該最努力反共諜但現在卻跟共諜站在一起的中國國民黨你們真的對不起你們的老祖宗\n348320\t366085\t好 接下來我們要繼續講我主席 我實在是覺得沒有人回答我 好煩喔心情很不好餒好 接下來我要講喔國民黨不只做這樣的事情他們甚至提名了一個不分區上一屆的不分區 無私懷\n367365\t386705\t吳斯懷這位退將呢他當時被提名為不分區他也做了一屆可是當時他卻協同多名退將到北京的人民大會堂聽習近平講話你看他做那個端端正正的樣子一副好像要效忠國家的樣子但是我們來看一下他效忠的國家是哪一國\n387563\t408539\t是中國呢這樣子的國民黨不分區立法委員難道還要我們相信中國共產黨是反共的嗎中國國民黨是反共的嗎當然不是甚至他們的國安破口翁小林還在公開質詢的時候要求農業部陳部長提供所謂的暫時的糧食配送站地圖這個更加的荒謬\n409119\t426066\t如果是暫時的機敏資料現在提供給你們這些舔共賣台的立委真的適合嗎?而你還敢在公開視訊講這個話真的是在跟主持告訴主持說我做得很好good job 嘉義還是說你其實是要惹怒更多的台灣人\n427779\t445066\t那很多時候中國國民黨會說到底誰才是共諜誰才是跟中國站在一起的人可笑的是在四二六的前夕今年四二六前夕連勝文也就是國民黨的副主席他才跑去見宋濤他說了什麼話呢他說\n446326\t460710\t中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候台灣應該要主動幫忙中國這是什麼後面的言論接下來4月17號往前推個幾天洪秀柱一樣去拜見國台辦主席宋濤他繼續談兩岸一家親他繼續談九二共識\n465091\t488147\t他們呢每一個人都急著去填貢每一個人都急著要把台灣賣出去大家更不要忘記去年4月26號在0403大地震之後呢傅昆奇說要去促成兩岸交流他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的網顧你更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府\n488747\t492830\t這就是現在國民黨的樣態所以呢可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子才讓周萬來他可以選擇不來才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會藐視主席這樣的行為最後我們來看一下為了情資的控管\n506361\t533204\t民進黨的委員提出了多項關於國安法案也就是兩岸人民關係條例我們辦公室當然也有提案我們的要求非常簡單立法委員附中必須申報可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下到目前為止所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過300多次而這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安國民黨居心何在其實我們真的都看不懂\n534005\t557081\t基本上在台灣所有的政務官縣市首長還有大多數的基層軍公教去中國以前都必須要報備這個是有相關的法規範可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員卻沒有相關任何的風險管理機制我們真的覺得非常的荒謬更可笑的是林國成民眾黨的立法委員還在總質詢當中聲稱說這沒有黨啦這叫暫緩\n562765\t578421\t就像陳玉珍打我一樣卻叫做排除這就是現在的國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情他們不僅擋法案他們在立法院有暴力行為甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法法師委員會都可以選擇不出席\n580183\t590772\t藐視司法法制委員會我想這個是他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事大家真的都看在眼裡這個打假球的行為我想真的是要停止所以我簡單的呼籲雖然他沒有來我還是要講給他聽如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案我們堅持部分黨派該查就查該辦就辦而立法院我們自己也\n602242\t625375\t應該要快速訂定相關的內規防止國會助理涉入共諜案還有相關的立法委員附中必須申報的法案我們希望可以儘速排審進入委員會不要再被擋在程序委員會了如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安就請不要再打假球好 以上空氣質詢完畢謝謝主席好 謝謝程培委員接下來我們請\n","txt":"我會說法院的原因就是 要質詢就沒人 要自己想這個是我來立法院兩年多以來第一次面對空蕩蕩的被巡台 這也算是一個全新的經驗不過我必須要說 這個經驗是不好的經驗所以主席我們沒有現實啦\n報告主席我們沒有限時對不對我看你沒有按計時器時間自有調控一下反正現在來了少我盡量給大家方便好謝謝主席來我們來看一下其實這三天的安排的議題其實對於整個立法院也好\n都有非常重要實質的意義不管是秘書處行政部門或者是總務處人事處本來就要對相關業務是處於一個必須要向立法院報告的狀態可是我們非常遺憾的是過去這一年多以來在藍白多數主導立法院情況下屢屢發生非常多荒謬的事情\n我們就從其中一個司法法制委員會這個禮拜排的議案作為切入光是3月25號強行通過的違法會議非法表決所造成的空殼公投我要再次強調如果我們來看這個時間軸事實上當天是早上9點鐘會議開始可是呢\n當天因為有游志斌的事件到底他是誰的助理到底他是誰的辦公室的同仁那不管是陳玉珍或者是韓國瑜院長都交代的不清不楚我們甚至懷疑有人說謊那一整天開始呢韓國瑜院長不願意處理不過韓國瑜院長不處理這件事情也不是第一次了在這一年多來他始終呢就是只會訂便當慶祝大家生日這個康樂鼓掌非常盡責但是身為一個立法院長實在失職\n結果到了當天下午的三點半據傳有竹聯幫要在康源餐廳聚餐選幫主其實這件事情第一時間內政部就有處理可是我們要問到底是誰放任黑道做這樣的事情到了五點鐘我們發現黃國昌\n為什麼要針對黃國昌呢因為他當天提出一個要延長會議的臨時提案可是他一整天都沒有來立法院而且呢這個延長會議的提案事實上他也必須要主席宣布可是很奇怪是主席也沒有宣布他們兩個就像彼此都會通靈一樣\n在六點鐘以後呢所有的國民黨還有民眾黨委員就一起衝進立法院在會議時間之後要一起來開會然後呢當時我們就問他到底現在是不是開會時間他其實也講不清楚結果\n當時國會頻道的直播我們還發現他切換到休息這個畫面也就是說他們呢自己知道這件事情是有問題的所以他們選在一個奇怪的開會時間而且我們要再次強調當天其實已經超過了法定的開會時間可是他們依然還是要強行開會而這個主導者不管是傅坤祺不管是韓國瑜不管是黃國昌我想國人都看在眼裡喔\n那接下來我們來看一下關於立法院的資安防護這件事情事實上呢在去年司法法制的中嘉賓委員就已經有問到立法院每一個月遭受到資安的攻擊將近90萬次每月90萬次是一個什麼概念一個月如果30天來算\n這個算法算下去我們可以想見立法院絕對有很大的問題那遭受到這個攻擊到底資安人員如何面對或是相關的系統如何處理而韓國瑜身為立法院長他主理著行政單位他們有沒有意識到這件事情還是他們認為來自對岸的敵意不需要處理反正呢國共一家親這件事情好像已然是一個事實所以他們完全不想去防護\n完全不想去保護立法院相關子案的安全所以他們才決定今天不來嗎是這樣嗎接下來呢他們又說他們非常非常在意共諜的案子那我們就說該查就查該辦就辦事實上所有的民進黨籍立委當時有牽涉到這個相關共諜案的立委也都說該查就查該辦就辦絕不寬待\n那我想這個立場如果已經這麼清楚了為什麼藍白在這件事情上始終不敢面對這件事情還有之前我在司法法制委員會質詢過關於連署造假、抄錄名冊、死亡連署的議題國家無分黨派滲透行為無分藍綠白只要有違法疑慮應該就要秉公查辦絕不護短\n那民進黨也絕對不會像國民黨一樣去支持違法或造假的行為很可惜我們看到國民黨不只造假昨天還有人公開承認自己就是促成這個錯誤案件的人講到共諜其實共諜最大受害者是國民黨但國民黨恐怕已經忘記了自己的歷史過去呢\n在國共內戰的時候,很多人都發現了,相關的史料裡面發現了,中國共產黨派非常多的人滲透在國民黨的身邊,不管是連開會的人啊,會議記錄,甚至是做小小小小事情的人,大到官階降臨,都有共諜在滲透在中國國民黨裡頭。\n所以呢這可能也是當時國共內戰國民黨整個大敗的原因如果國民黨就是深受共諜毒害最深的苦衷那他們為什麼到今天為止卻選擇跟共諜站在一起就連昨天國台辦都出來幫他們說話說426他們做得好good job我實在是不知道到底誰才是應該最努力反共諜但現在卻跟共諜站在一起的中國國民黨你們真的對不起你們的老祖宗\n好 接下來我們要繼續講我主席 我實在是覺得沒有人回答我 好煩喔心情很不好餒好 接下來我要講喔國民黨不只做這樣的事情他們甚至提名了一個不分區上一屆的不分區 無私懷\n吳斯懷這位退將呢他當時被提名為不分區他也做了一屆可是當時他卻協同多名退將到北京的人民大會堂聽習近平講話你看他做那個端端正正的樣子一副好像要效忠國家的樣子但是我們來看一下他效忠的國家是哪一國\n是中國呢這樣子的國民黨不分區立法委員難道還要我們相信中國共產黨是反共的嗎中國國民黨是反共的嗎當然不是甚至他們的國安破口翁小林還在公開質詢的時候要求農業部陳部長提供所謂的暫時的糧食配送站地圖這個更加的荒謬\n如果是暫時的機敏資料現在提供給你們這些舔共賣台的立委真的適合嗎?而你還敢在公開視訊講這個話真的是在跟主持告訴主持說我做得很好good job 嘉義還是說你其實是要惹怒更多的台灣人\n那很多時候中國國民黨會說到底誰才是共諜誰才是跟中國站在一起的人可笑的是在四二六的前夕今年四二六前夕連勝文也就是國民黨的副主席他才跑去見宋濤他說了什麼話呢他說\n中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候台灣應該要主動幫忙中國這是什麼後面的言論接下來4月17號往前推個幾天洪秀柱一樣去拜見國台辦主席宋濤他繼續談兩岸一家親他繼續談九二共識\n他們呢每一個人都急著去填貢每一個人都急著要把台灣賣出去大家更不要忘記去年4月26號在0403大地震之後呢傅昆奇說要去促成兩岸交流他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的網顧你更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府\n這就是現在國民黨的樣態所以呢可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子才讓周萬來他可以選擇不來才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會藐視主席這樣的行為最後我們來看一下為了情資的控管\n民進黨的委員提出了多項關於國安法案也就是兩岸人民關係條例我們辦公室當然也有提案我們的要求非常簡單立法委員附中必須申報可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下到目前為止所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過300多次而這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安國民黨居心何在其實我們真的都看不懂\n基本上在台灣所有的政務官縣市首長還有大多數的基層軍公教去中國以前都必須要報備這個是有相關的法規範可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員卻沒有相關任何的風險管理機制我們真的覺得非常的荒謬更可笑的是林國成民眾黨的立法委員還在總質詢當中聲稱說這沒有黨啦這叫暫緩\n就像陳玉珍打我一樣卻叫做排除這就是現在的國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情他們不僅擋法案他們在立法院有暴力行為甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法法師委員會都可以選擇不出席\n藐視司法法制委員會我想這個是他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事大家真的都看在眼裡這個打假球的行為我想真的是要停止所以我簡單的呼籲雖然他沒有來我還是要講給他聽如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案我們堅持部分黨派該查就查該辦就辦而立法院我們自己也\n應該要快速訂定相關的內規防止國會助理涉入共諜案還有相關的立法委員附中必須申報的法案我們希望可以儘速排審進入委員會不要再被擋在程序委員會了如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安就請不要再打假球好 以上空氣質詢完畢謝謝主席好 謝謝程培委員接下來我們請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.694 --> 00:19.759\n我會說法院的原因就是要質詢就沒人要自己想這個是我來立法院兩年多以來第一次面對空蕩蕩的被巡台這也算是一個全新的經驗不過我必須要說這個經驗是不好的經驗所以主席我們沒有現實啦\n\n00:21.926 --> 00:38.039\n報告主席我們沒有限時對不對我看你沒有按計時器時間自有調控一下反正現在來了少我盡量給大家方便好謝謝主席來我們來看一下其實這三天的安排的議題其實對於整個立法院也好\n\n00:39.620 --> 00:59.001\n都有非常重要實質的意義不管是秘書處行政部門或者是總務處人事處本來就要對相關業務是處於一個必須要向立法院報告的狀態可是我們非常遺憾的是過去這一年多以來在藍白多數主導立法院情況下屢屢發生非常多荒謬的事情\n\n00:59.702 --> 01:03.843\n我們就從其中一個司法法制委員會這個禮拜排的議案作為切入光是3月25號強行通過的違法會議非法表決所造成的空殼公投我要再次強調如果我們來看這個時間軸事實上當天是早上9點鐘會議開始可是呢\n\n01:21.387 --> 01:49.028\n當天因為有游志斌的事件到底他是誰的助理到底他是誰的辦公室的同仁那不管是陳玉珍或者是韓國瑜院長都交代的不清不楚我們甚至懷疑有人說謊那一整天開始呢韓國瑜院長不願意處理不過韓國瑜院長不處理這件事情也不是第一次了在這一年多來他始終呢就是只會訂便當慶祝大家生日這個康樂鼓掌非常盡責但是身為一個立法院長實在失職\n\n01:50.369 --> 02:06.778\n結果到了當天下午的三點半據傳有竹聯幫要在康源餐廳聚餐選幫主其實這件事情第一時間內政部就有處理可是我們要問到底是誰放任黑道做這樣的事情到了五點鐘我們發現黃國昌\n\n02:09.199 --> 02:25.272\n為什麼要針對黃國昌呢因為他當天提出一個要延長會議的臨時提案可是他一整天都沒有來立法院而且呢這個延長會議的提案事實上他也必須要主席宣布可是很奇怪是主席也沒有宣布他們兩個就像彼此都會通靈一樣\n\n02:26.713 --> 02:39.908\n在六點鐘以後呢所有的國民黨還有民眾黨委員就一起衝進立法院在會議時間之後要一起來開會然後呢當時我們就問他到底現在是不是開會時間他其實也講不清楚結果\n\n02:41.799 --> 03:05.880\n當時國會頻道的直播我們還發現他切換到休息這個畫面也就是說他們呢自己知道這件事情是有問題的所以他們選在一個奇怪的開會時間而且我們要再次強調當天其實已經超過了法定的開會時間可是他們依然還是要強行開會而這個主導者不管是傅坤祺不管是韓國瑜不管是黃國昌我想國人都看在眼裡喔\n\n03:06.500 --> 03:24.596\n那接下來我們來看一下關於立法院的資安防護這件事情事實上呢在去年司法法制的中嘉賓委員就已經有問到立法院每一個月遭受到資安的攻擊將近90萬次每月90萬次是一個什麼概念一個月如果30天來算\n\n03:27.246 --> 03:52.415\n這個算法算下去我們可以想見立法院絕對有很大的問題那遭受到這個攻擊到底資安人員如何面對或是相關的系統如何處理而韓國瑜身為立法院長他主理著行政單位他們有沒有意識到這件事情還是他們認為來自對岸的敵意不需要處理反正呢國共一家親這件事情好像已然是一個事實所以他們完全不想去防護\n\n03:53.095 --> 04:13.599\n完全不想去保護立法院相關子案的安全所以他們才決定今天不來嗎是這樣嗎接下來呢他們又說他們非常非常在意共諜的案子那我們就說該查就查該辦就辦事實上所有的民進黨籍立委當時有牽涉到這個相關共諜案的立委也都說該查就查該辦就辦絕不寬待\n\n04:16.260 --> 04:28.223\n那我想這個立場如果已經這麼清楚了為什麼藍白在這件事情上始終不敢面對這件事情還有之前我在司法法制委員會質詢過關於連署造假、抄錄名冊、死亡連署的議題國家無分黨派滲透行為無分藍綠白只要有違法疑慮應該就要秉公查辦絕不護短\n\n04:38.706 --> 04:58.561\n那民進黨也絕對不會像國民黨一樣去支持違法或造假的行為很可惜我們看到國民黨不只造假昨天還有人公開承認自己就是促成這個錯誤案件的人講到共諜其實共諜最大受害者是國民黨但國民黨恐怕已經忘記了自己的歷史過去呢\n\n04:59.750 --> 05:18.717\n在國共內戰的時候,很多人都發現了,相關的史料裡面發現了,中國共產黨派非常多的人滲透在國民黨的身邊,不管是連開會的人啊,會議記錄,甚至是做小小小小事情的人,大到官階降臨,都有共諜在滲透在中國國民黨裡頭。\n\n05:19.537 --> 05:47.319\n所以呢這可能也是當時國共內戰國民黨整個大敗的原因如果國民黨就是深受共諜毒害最深的苦衷那他們為什麼到今天為止卻選擇跟共諜站在一起就連昨天國台辦都出來幫他們說話說426他們做得好goodjob我實在是不知道到底誰才是應該最努力反共諜但現在卻跟共諜站在一起的中國國民黨你們真的對不起你們的老祖宗\n\n05:48.320 --> 06:06.085\n好接下來我們要繼續講我主席我實在是覺得沒有人回答我好煩喔心情很不好餒好接下來我要講喔國民黨不只做這樣的事情他們甚至提名了一個不分區上一屆的不分區無私懷\n\n06:07.365 --> 06:26.705\n吳斯懷這位退將呢他當時被提名為不分區他也做了一屆可是當時他卻協同多名退將到北京的人民大會堂聽習近平講話你看他做那個端端正正的樣子一副好像要效忠國家的樣子但是我們來看一下他效忠的國家是哪一國\n\n06:27.563 --> 06:48.539\n是中國呢這樣子的國民黨不分區立法委員難道還要我們相信中國共產黨是反共的嗎中國國民黨是反共的嗎當然不是甚至他們的國安破口翁小林還在公開質詢的時候要求農業部陳部長提供所謂的暫時的糧食配送站地圖這個更加的荒謬\n\n06:49.119 --> 07:06.066\n如果是暫時的機敏資料現在提供給你們這些舔共賣台的立委真的適合嗎?而你還敢在公開視訊講這個話真的是在跟主持告訴主持說我做得很好goodjob嘉義還是說你其實是要惹怒更多的台灣人\n\n07:07.779 --> 07:25.066\n那很多時候中國國民黨會說到底誰才是共諜誰才是跟中國站在一起的人可笑的是在四二六的前夕今年四二六前夕連勝文也就是國民黨的副主席他才跑去見宋濤他說了什麼話呢他說\n\n07:26.326 --> 07:40.710\n中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候台灣應該要主動幫忙中國這是什麼後面的言論接下來4月17號往前推個幾天洪秀柱一樣去拜見國台辦主席宋濤他繼續談兩岸一家親他繼續談九二共識\n\n07:45.091 --> 08:08.147\n他們呢每一個人都急著去填貢每一個人都急著要把台灣賣出去大家更不要忘記去年4月26號在0403大地震之後呢傅昆奇說要去促成兩岸交流他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的網顧你更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府\n\n08:08.747 --> 08:12.830\n這就是現在國民黨的樣態所以呢可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子才讓周萬來他可以選擇不來才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會藐視主席這樣的行為最後我們來看一下為了情資的控管\n\n08:26.361 --> 08:53.204\n民進黨的委員提出了多項關於國安法案也就是兩岸人民關係條例我們辦公室當然也有提案我們的要求非常簡單立法委員附中必須申報可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下到目前為止所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過300多次而這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安國民黨居心何在其實我們真的都看不懂\n\n08:54.005 --> 09:17.081\n基本上在台灣所有的政務官縣市首長還有大多數的基層軍公教去中國以前都必須要報備這個是有相關的法規範可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員卻沒有相關任何的風險管理機制我們真的覺得非常的荒謬更可笑的是林國成民眾黨的立法委員還在總質詢當中聲稱說這沒有黨啦這叫暫緩\n\n09:22.765 --> 09:38.421\n就像陳玉珍打我一樣卻叫做排除這就是現在的國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情他們不僅擋法案他們在立法院有暴力行為甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法法師委員會都可以選擇不出席\n\n09:40.183 --> 09:50.772\n藐視司法法制委員會我想這個是他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事大家真的都看在眼裡這個打假球的行為我想真的是要停止所以我簡單的呼籲雖然他沒有來我還是要講給他聽如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案我們堅持部分黨派該查就查該辦就辦而立法院我們自己也\n\n10:02.242 --> 10:25.375\n應該要快速訂定相關的內規防止國會助理涉入共諜案還有相關的立法委員附中必須申報的法案我們希望可以儘速排審進入委員會不要再被擋在程序委員會了如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安就請不要再打假球好以上空氣質詢完畢謝謝主席好謝謝程培委員接下來我們請\n\n","segments":[{"start":2.694,"end":19.759,"text":"我會說法院的原因就是 要質詢就沒人 要自己想這個是我來立法院兩年多以來第一次面對空蕩蕩的被巡台 這也算是一個全新的經驗不過我必須要說 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嘉義還是說你其實是要惹怒更多的台灣人"},{"start":427.779,"end":445.066,"text":"那很多時候中國國民黨會說到底誰才是共諜誰才是跟中國站在一起的人可笑的是在四二六的前夕今年四二六前夕連勝文也就是國民黨的副主席他才跑去見宋濤他說了什麼話呢他說"},{"start":446.326,"end":460.71,"text":"中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候台灣應該要主動幫忙中國這是什麼後面的言論接下來4月17號往前推個幾天洪秀柱一樣去拜見國台辦主席宋濤他繼續談兩岸一家親他繼續談九二共識"},{"start":465.091,"end":488.147,"text":"他們呢每一個人都急著去填貢每一個人都急著要把台灣賣出去大家更不要忘記去年4月26號在0403大地震之後呢傅昆奇說要去促成兩岸交流他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的網顧你更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府"},{"start":488.747,"end":492.83,"text":"這就是現在國民黨的樣態所以呢可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子才讓周萬來他可以選擇不來才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會藐視主席這樣的行為最後我們來看一下為了情資的控管"},{"start":506.361,"end":533.204,"text":"民進黨的委員提出了多項關於國安法案也就是兩岸人民關係條例我們辦公室當然也有提案我們的要求非常簡單立法委員附中必須申報可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下到目前為止所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過300多次而這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安國民黨居心何在其實我們真的都看不懂"},{"start":534.005,"end":557.081,"text":"基本上在台灣所有的政務官縣市首長還有大多數的基層軍公教去中國以前都必須要報備這個是有相關的法規範可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員卻沒有相關任何的風險管理機制我們真的覺得非常的荒謬更可笑的是林國成民眾黨的立法委員還在總質詢當中聲稱說這沒有黨啦這叫暫緩"},{"start":562.765,"end":578.421,"text":"就像陳玉珍打我一樣卻叫做排除這就是現在的國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情他們不僅擋法案他們在立法院有暴力行為甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法法師委員會都可以選擇不出席"},{"start":580.183,"end":590.772,"text":"藐視司法法制委員會我想這個是他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事大家真的都看在眼裡這個打假球的行為我想真的是要停止所以我簡單的呼籲雖然他沒有來我還是要講給他聽如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案我們堅持部分黨派該查就查該辦就辦而立法院我們自己也"},{"start":602.242,"end":625.375,"text":"應該要快速訂定相關的內規防止國會助理涉入共諜案還有相關的立法委員附中必須申報的法案我們希望可以儘速排審進入委員會不要再被擋在程序委員會了如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安就請不要再打假球好 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job加1，還是其實要惹怒更多的臺灣人！","很多時候中國國民黨會說，到底誰才是共諜、誰才是跟中國站在一起的人？可笑的是，在今年426的前夕，連勝文──也就是國民黨的副主席，他才跑去見宋濤，他說了什麼話呢？他說中國在面對關稅衝擊的時候，臺灣應該要主動幫忙中國，這是什麼荒謬的言論！接下來，往前推個幾天的4月17號，洪秀柱一樣去拜見國臺辦主任宋濤，他繼續談兩岸一家親、他繼續談九二共識，他們每一個人都急著去舔共、每一個人都急著要把臺灣賣出去！大家更不要忘記去年4月26號，在0403大地震之後，傅崐萁說要去促成兩岸交流，他帶了16名國民黨立委去拜見中國的王滬寧；更不要說他在2025的時候去到香港，在香港的公開會議上說他代表中央政府，這就是現在國民黨的樣態。可能是因為國民黨現在這個囂張的樣子，才讓周萬來可以選擇不來，才讓周萬來和韓國瑜出一個新聞稿就可以做出藐視國會、藐視主席的行為！","最後我們來看一下，為了情資的控管，民進黨的委員提出了多項國安法案，也就是兩岸人民關係條例，我們辦公室當然也有提案，我們的要求非常簡單，立法委員赴中必須申報，可是卻在程序委員會多次被擋下，到目前為止，所有委員提案被擋下的次數已經超過三百多次，這樣子一再阻擋卻告訴我們是要挺國安，國民黨居心何在？其實我們真的都看不懂！基本上，在臺灣所有的政務官、縣市首長，還有大多數的基層軍公教，去中國以前都必須要報備，這個是有相關的法規範，可是掌握這麼多權力跟機密的立法委員，卻沒有任何相關的風險管理機制，我們真的覺得非常荒謬。更可笑的是，民眾黨的立法委員林國成還在總質詢當中聲稱這沒有擋，這叫暫緩，就像陳玉珍打我一樣，叫做排除，這就是現在國民黨跟民眾黨在做的事情，他們不僅擋法案，他們在立法院還有暴力行為，甚至連同周萬來秘書長都可以不尊重司法及法制委員會，都可以選擇不出席，藐視司法及法制委員會，我想他們到底做了什麼樣的壞事，大家真的都看在眼裡，這個打假球的行為，我想真的是要停止。","所以我簡單地呼籲，雖然他沒有來，我還是要講給他聽，如果國民黨或是民眾黨認為國會助理有涉共諜案，我們堅持不分黨派，該查就查，該辦就辦，我們立法院自己應該要快速訂定相關的內規，防止國會助理涉入共諜案，還有相關的立法委員赴中必須申報的法案，我們希望可以儘速排審，進入委員會，不要再被擋在程序委員會了，如果藍白兩黨真的在乎國安，就請不要再打假球，以上空氣質詢完畢，謝謝主席。"],["主席：謝謝陳培瑜委員。接下來我們請吳思瑤委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":172,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-36-14","speakers":["莊瑞雄","王義川","陳培瑜","吳思瑤","沈發惠"],"page_start":149,"meetingDate":["2025-05-01"],"gazette_id":"1144501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1144501_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請立法院秘書長、議事處處長、法制局局長列席就「防止立法院成為國安破口─ 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