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00:03:51,080\n所以我想这个最后会造成什么样的影响我们还要静观其变不过对台湾的厂商来讲台湾大部分都是在Aftermarket所以在Aftermarket台湾有非常高的优势那我也去访谈过我们也座谈过非常多台湾的汽车零组件的厂商他们来讲说只要他们遇到的关税是立足点是平的\n\n12\n00:03:51,920 --> 00:04:03,942\n是大家一樣的他們永遠不會擔心但是如果說給別其他的國家那比較低的關稅那台灣是比較高的關稅這樣子對他們來講傷害就比較大\n\n13\n00:04:04,568 --> 00:04:22,502\n但是那你講到重點了現在我們看到了好像亞洲第一個國家要跟就是美國要談結果的可能是印度了那日韓都也在談判的這個過程當中了那我想要請問我們對跟美國這個關稅的談判什麼時候已經最終我們會不會調降\n\n14\n00:04:30,816 --> 00:04:46,848\n我們跟美國的談判是在進行中所以我們不會是最後談判的那個群裡面的人我們一定是領先群的談判群裡面的人\n\n15\n00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,291\n對我們來講我們在日韓之後談我們認為應該也有優勢別人談判的結果我們都可以去推論作為我們爭取對我們最有利的關稅來作為參考\n\n16\n00:05:08,957 --> 00:05:37,514\n就如同你所說的你知道說我們不能夠比其他國家的關稅還要高嗎但是我們有不同的產業有不同就是說competitive的就是競爭的國家那在這個情況下你怎麼樣子就是說我們怎麼樣子能夠說每一個我們都兼顧到那這個部分你怎麼處理以及我們看到了現在目前當然\n\n17\n00:05:38,354 --> 00:05:57,676\n美國不是唯一的市場啦對於台灣的這樣子的一個汽車領主權身為我國的經濟部長你怎麼樣子協助啊怎麼樣子協助產業啊怎麼樣子給予他們政策上的幫助啊讓他們可以走出去啊是不是是\n\n18\n00:05:59,077 --> 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all而不是分別的就是說不會對對那個汽車製造商課20%的進口關稅或者是加上25%的這個鋼鋁的關稅我想要請問因為這個\n变化的过程太快了那到底是怎么样子那你是不是能说明清楚这是你的问题而且这对于台湾汽车零组件产业的影响是什么是好还是不好\n報告委員我想對於這個關稅到現在我們都還在進行中那美國總統的這樣的改變其實我們認為說到目前為止大家可能都已經習慣了就是說到最後排版為止可能都有變化\n那對我們台灣來講我們有做過幾個simulation我們有做過幾個這個所謂狀況的判斷那以目前來講因為我們台灣做這個汽車零組件我們分成兩種但是台灣比較強的其實在aftermarket\n其實比較強是在Aftermarket所以這一個部分美國他現在要求說把這個零組件這個供應鏈可以再調降這個是他碰到的就是說這樣子的話反而在美國製造的汽車\n會比在美國以外的汽車要貴對那變成說這個美國的消費者來講的話他們可能也不太能夠接受所以這個大概因為這樣子然後這個美國的汽車公司還有美國汽車領土建的公司他們可能也會去Lobby這個跟美國的政府來Lobby談這些事情\n所以我想这个最后会造成什么样的影响我们还要静观其变不过对台湾的厂商来讲台湾大部分都是在Aftermarket所以在Aftermarket台湾有非常高的优势那我也去访谈过我们也座谈过非常多台湾的汽车零组件的厂商他们来讲说只要他们遇到的关税是立足点是平的\n是大家一樣的他們永遠不會擔心但是如果說給別其他的國家那比較低的關稅那台灣是比較高的關稅這樣子對他們來講傷害就比較大\n但是那你講到重點了現在我們看到了好像亞洲第一個國家要跟就是美國要談結果的可能是印度了那日韓都也在談判的這個過程當中了那我想要請問我們對跟美國這個關稅的談判什麼時候已經最終我們會不會調降\n我們跟美國的談判是在進行中所以我們不會是最後談判的那個群裡面的人我們一定是領先群的談判群裡面的人\n對我們來講我們在日韓之後談我們認為應該也有優勢別人談判的結果我們都可以去推論作為我們爭取對我們最有利的關稅來作為參考\n就如同你所說的你知道說我們不能夠比其他國家的關稅還要高嗎但是我們有不同的產業有不同就是說competitive的就是競爭的國家那在這個情況下你怎麼樣子就是說我們怎麼樣子能夠說每一個我們都兼顧到那這個部分你怎麼處理以及我們看到了現在目前當然\n美國不是唯一的市場啦對於台灣的這樣子的一個汽車領主權身為我國的經濟部長你怎麼樣子協助啊怎麼樣子協助產業啊怎麼樣子給予他們政策上的幫助啊讓他們可以走出去啊是不是是\n報告委員我們現在採取的方式是第一個當碰到這個關稅實際碰到的這些衝擊的大概我們盤點出來有六個傳統產業我們現在第一步是針對這六個傳統產業增加它的競爭力然後降低它的作業成本我們透過AI的這個教導跟做EXCO來協助它降低成本這是我們目前在做的\n第二個階段6月以後當美國這個豁免90天開始要結束的時候我們希望能夠幫助這些廠商移轉他的這個訂單能夠從新的這個市場包括歐洲的市場包括這個靠近歐洲的中東的這個市場\n這就是我們在考慮印度的市場我們是幫助他們能夠在市場上面能夠讓大家看得到所以我們的貿易署就開始準備了我們這個貿易署編的特別預算有100億有100億是幫助這個業者在國外取得新的訂單那這個新的訂單的話就像我在座談我一直講我們在新的訂單我們會用一個品牌的名字叫做台灣台灣Cellet\n透過台灣Seller這樣一個品牌把這個訂單帶回來以後交給我們經濟部所屬的20個機構由這20個機構來協助他們輔導的這個中小微企業下去製造這樣子那這個可以去中心化我相信在我們的輔導之下它的成本可以降然後我們又直接拿訂單那這樣子對他們來講更有競爭力\n好謝謝謝謝瑋瑜\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.236 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