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00:00:25,520\n謝謝趙偉那我們是不是有請部長郭部長委員好部長好\n\n2\n00:00:26,941 --> 00:00:46,266\n部長針對這一次的美國的一個對等關稅那當然台灣有相對應應應的措施所以行政院提出了這一個4100億的特別預算那這個特別預算裡面當然是由經濟部來做主責未來會由經濟部跟財政部來做聯席的一個審查\n\n3\n00:00:46,866 --> 00:01:10,864\n那經濟部主責的大概就是在協助產業如何在這個時候第一個要安定第二個要幫他們找到國際市場我想說這個保定我們在過去幾次的諮詢我們都有講到那針對找協助產業去擴展他們的一個爭取海外訂單這件事那我們現在經濟部的具體做法我想請部長可不可以再說明一下\n\n4\n00:01:11,084 --> 00:01:39,321\n是報告委員我們大概因為這個關稅的問題造成台灣很多的這個中小微企業可能面臨在這個這個取單上面面臨到一個很大的窘境所以我們現在經濟部的做法就是說我們用一個品牌的名字叫台灣SELECT這個來把這個中小的企業把它整合起來所以我們帶他們一起到這個海外去參展\n\n5\n00:01:40,563 --> 00:02:01,119\n不要再像過去他們用兩個boost三個boost這個小小的boost然後去個別展跟恰恰修一樣所以我們現在是用一個大的會館台灣館台灣館來參展然後讓各個企業都在裡面再落在裡面讓我們幫助他們來取得這個訂單部長我想你說的應該是比較大的範圍\n\n6\n00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:28,679\n如果是一個比較大型的比方說機械展這可能就有台灣館比方說整個類似的農機展類似這樣的概念但是有一些訂單的爭取那些展覽未必是那種大型的未必會變成台灣整體出去我們大概就是台灣一個品牌然後如果他的公司是比較中型的公司或者是比較比較有規模的公司我們就補貼\n\n7\n00:02:33,261 --> 00:02:53,431\n所以說到補助這塊我想跟部長來講因為我們現在這個補助的規定就是說大概我們是看他如果要出去參加展覽然後我們大概就是補助他多少攤位那目前現在大概就是一個攤位我們會補助他4萬塊那如果他增加一個攤位就再增加就給他增加5000塊\n\n8\n00:02:54,871 --> 00:03:17,531\n那上限就是六萬塊那我回答不斷地說那如果處理展覽一個攤位那真的不會看錢一個攤位小小的大概就六到八這個平方公尺六到八平方公尺所以通常有些人有要處理可能都要拚三個攤位四個攤位那種感覺說哇有這個陣仗做生意就是這樣做生意你如果不把責任出來有時那些長輩要催你那個誘因就比較不夠\n\n9\n00:03:22,896 --> 00:03:34,731\n所以我現在會說你如果用這樣一步走就是說你給他四萬塊增加一個攤位五千塊可是你想廠商要出去爭取訂單事實上他花費是很多\n\n10\n00:03:35,848 --> 00:03:52,726\n但是政府的補助力道看起來這樣小小的是報告委員我想這一部分為什麼我們這次會增加到100億的預算這個也是這個院長跟這個總統在下鄉跟這個所有的業者座談的時候聽到大家的這個反應\n\n11\n00:03:53,506 --> 00:04:07,072\n所以我們特別編列了比較高的這個費用來補助啦基本上我們是要改變那個參展的型態啦像剛才委員在指教的兩個攤位、三個攤位太衰、太渺小所以我就把它整合變成一百個部室,都台灣的\n\n12\n00:04:17,017 --> 00:04:33,293\n我們裡面有各種應用的設施這樣的時候人家在看的人看到大嘛說大就是美所以我們還會有現場的我們聘的人員我們聘的人員翻譯的人員這都是經濟部\n\n13\n00:04:35,575 --> 00:04:59,300\n外貿協會或者是我們貿易署我們聚能員在現場幫忙協助好我覺得這個方向都很好所以這個應該就是未來特別預算過後然後這個就要趕緊實施這個要請大院各位委員來協助我相信未來我們應該會跟在野黨也一樣大家一起趕快把這個4100億趕快給過不要拘泥在一些小節大家要趕快給過\n\n14\n00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:23,638\n那我再具體建議啦,事實上我想跟部長說我們在這個補助參展,事實上我們應該做產業別,甚至營業額來做一個區隔我想要說營業額,我覺得補充這是我一個建議啦,你要去外國拚國際電端事實上如果沒有一定規模的公司,沒有那個能量\n\n15\n00:05:24,318 --> 00:05:42,723\n所以我意思是說,我們既然要打的,是要打國際盃比如說我們在打棒球的時候,我們會不會是組台灣的一軍出去打?最強的給處理啊你最強的處理,我每次都會頂多,手長的我們最強的對我處理,我就打世界冠軍啊如果還在二軍的,可能就是他們的新調境所以我意思是說,如果這個產業的營業額越大\n\n16\n00:05:51,435 --> 00:06:07,718\n應該要給他更多的補助讓他更有能量代表台灣隊去去國際把訂單徵取回來部長你支持這樣做嗎報告委員我想委員的這些指正我們都會朝這個方向來考慮不過我們希望以大代小\n\n17\n00:06:08,649 --> 00:06:08,989\n所以事實上我覺得這個補助企業參加參展這個事情\n\n18\n00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:46,215\n我們會強化然後第二個我想再請教一下因為我們這一次在因應這個關稅那我看到經濟部磊事實上有講到了一個概念叫做要來推動從過去就一直在講的產業園區立體化那我想要問一下部長我們這一次的產業園區立體化我們的具體作為是什麼\n\n19\n00:06:54,778 --> 00:06:57,620\n我們產業園區具體化,基本上我們用容積獎勵,稍微大家的道路做寬一點,大家退縮一點,然後把原來的廠區我們可以朝高度上面去放寬\n\n20\n00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:41,048\n所以是農機有辦法再做一些放寬嘛對不對好那農機放寬的話我想要跟部長說新加坡因為他的土地就那一點點嘛所以新加坡在做他的產業園區的時候都用一個叫做垂直分區的概念這個垂直分區有一個叫做產業上樓有一個叫做生活上樓所以他們甚至說產業園區裡面也有住宅然後也有其他的辦公空間那是新加坡他們的模式沒辦法複製到我們\n\n21\n00:07:42,889 --> 00:07:58,139\n我們現在經濟部新設的產業園區我們在服務中心上面就會蓋這個宿舍跟生活所需的這個很好可是我現在要問的你剛剛講的大概是產惡啦\n\n22\n00:07:59,293 --> 00:08:04,882\n就是說那個辦公的空間我現在要說的是產業尤其是過去傳統的產業園區那有沒有辦法在這次的產業園區立體化也讓他們打破過去的一個限制\n\n23\n00:08:15,397 --> 00:08:30,753\n就比方說我嘉義有一個嘉泰產業園區嘉泰產業園區他是我們嘉義唯一的甲級的產業園區甲級的產業園區的土地非常的珍貴啊所以他根本就賣光光然後那裡的廠商他也找不到其他的\n\n24\n00:08:31,354 --> 00:08:56,969\n其他的產業園區同樣有到甲級的資格啊所以他們一個期待就是說如果產業園區立體化我們把我們現有的廠房我們就把它更新更新後給我們容積獎勵讓我們蓋高一點當然在符合所有建築法規蓋高一點的情況之下我的生產線可以有更寬裕的空間我覺得這倒是一個很好的方式啊是的是的這個我們是朝這個方向在努力\n\n25\n00:08:57,349 --> 00:09:22,776\n好我覺得這方面經濟部趕快把辦法定出來然後有一個具體作為因為我們不是說每次都一直腦袋裡面只想著喔我要再開發新的產業園區我要在哪裡再開發新的不能這樣過去的產業園區我們還是要給他這一些獎勵他們在這個產業園區已經在這裡紮根這麼久如果他們可以透過立體化爭取農基率的話他們會把廠房提升\n\n26\n00:09:23,817 --> 00:09:33,707\n廠房提升甚至他們也可以導入綠能導入更多的東西進來是好不好我們會在今年內來公告實施這個步伐部長這個很期待好謝謝謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13415\t25520\t謝謝趙偉那我們是不是有請部長郭部長委員好 部長好\n26941\t46266\t部長針對這一次的美國的一個對等關稅那當然台灣有相對應應應的措施所以行政院提出了這一個4100億的特別預算那這個特別預算裡面當然是由經濟部來做主責未來會由經濟部跟財政部來做聯席的一個審查\n46866\t70864\t那經濟部主責的大概就是在協助產業如何在這個時候第一個要安定第二個要幫他們找到國際市場我想說這個保定我們在過去幾次的諮詢我們都有講到那針對找協助產業去擴展他們的一個爭取海外訂單這件事那我們現在經濟部的具體做法我想請部長可不可以再說明一下\n71084\t99321\t是 報告委員我們大概因為這個關稅的問題造成台灣很多的這個中小微企業可能面臨在這個這個取單上面面臨到一個很大的窘境所以我們現在經濟部的做法就是說我們用一個品牌的名字叫台灣SELECT這個來把這個中小的企業把它整合起來所以我們帶他們一起到這個海外去參展\n100563\t121119\t不要再像過去 他們用兩個boost 三個boost 這個小小的boost然後去個別展 跟恰恰修一樣所以我們現在是用一個大的會館 台灣館台灣館來參展 然後讓各個企業都在裡面 再落在裡面讓我們幫助他們來取得這個訂單部長我想你說的應該是比較大的範圍\n122520\t148679\t如果是一個比較大型的比方說機械展這可能就有台灣館比方說整個類似的農機展類似這樣的概念但是有一些訂單的爭取那些展覽未必是那種大型的未必會變成台灣整體出去我們大概就是台灣一個品牌然後如果他的公司是比較中型的公司或者是比較比較有規模的公司我們就補貼\n153261\t173431\t所以說到補助這塊我想跟部長來講因為我們現在這個補助的規定就是說大概我們是看他如果要出去參加展覽然後我們大概就是補助他多少攤位那目前現在大概就是一個攤位我們會補助他4萬塊那如果他增加一個攤位就再增加就給他增加5000塊\n174871\t197531\t那上限就是六萬塊那我回答不斷地說那如果處理展覽一個攤位那真的不會看錢一個攤位小小的大概就六到八這個平方公尺六到八平方公尺所以通常有些人有要處理可能都要拚三個攤位四個攤位那種感覺說哇有這個陣仗做生意就是這樣做生意你如果不把責任出來有時那些長輩要催你那個誘因就比較不夠\n202896\t214731\t所以我現在會說 你如果用這樣一步走就是說你給他四萬塊 增加一個攤位五千塊可是你想廠商要出去爭取訂單事實上他花費是很多\n215848\t232726\t但是政府的補助力道看起來這樣小小的是 報告委員我想這一部分為什麼我們這次會增加到100億的預算這個也是這個院長跟這個總統在下鄉跟這個所有的業者座談的時候聽到大家的這個反應\n233506\t247072\t所以我們特別編列了比較高的這個費用來補助啦基本上我們是要改變那個參展的型態啦像剛才委員在指教的兩個攤位、三個攤位太衰、太渺小所以我就把它整合變成一百個部室,都台灣的\n257017\t273293\t我們裡面有各種應用的設施這樣的時候人家在看的人看到大嘛 說大就是美所以我們還會有現場的我們聘的人員我們聘的人員 翻譯的人員這都是經濟部\n275575\t299300\t外貿協會 或者是我們貿易署 我們聚能員在現場幫忙協助好 我覺得這個方向都很好 所以這個應該就是未來特別預算過後 然後這個就要趕緊實施這個要請大院各位委員來協助我相信未來我們應該會跟在野黨也一樣 大家一起趕快把這個4100億 趕快給過不要拘泥在一些小節 大家要趕快給過\n300280\t323638\t那我再具體建議啦,事實上我想跟部長說我們在這個補助參展,事實上我們應該做產業別,甚至營業額來做一個區隔我想要說營業額,我覺得補充這是我一個建議啦,你要去外國拚國際電端事實上如果沒有一定規模的公司,沒有那個能量\n324318\t342723\t所以我意思是說,我們既然要打的,是要打國際盃比如說我們在打棒球的時候,我們會不會是組台灣的一軍出去打?最強的給處理啊你最強的處理,我每次都會頂多,手長的我們最強的對我處理,我就打世界冠軍啊如果還在二軍的,可能就是他們的新調境所以我意思是說,如果這個產業的營業額越大\n351435\t367718\t應該要給他更多的補助讓他更有能量代表台灣隊去去國際把訂單徵取回來部長你支持這樣做嗎報告委員我想委員的這些指正我們都會朝這個方向來考慮不過我們希望以大代小\n368649\t368989\t所以事實上我覺得這個補助企業參加參展這個事情\n392010\t406215\t我們會強化然後第二個我想再請教一下因為我們這一次在因應這個關稅那我看到經濟部磊事實上有講到了一個概念叫做要來推動從過去就一直在講的產業園區立體化那我想要問一下部長我們這一次的產業園區立體化我們的具體作為是什麼\n414778\t417620\t我們產業園區具體化,基本上我們用容積獎勵,稍微大家的道路做寬一點,大家退縮一點,然後把原來的廠區我們可以朝高度上面去放寬\n434233\t461048\t所以是農機有辦法再做一些放寬嘛對不對好那農機放寬的話我想要跟部長說新加坡因為他的土地就那一點點嘛所以新加坡在做他的產業園區的時候都用一個叫做垂直分區的概念這個垂直分區有一個叫做產業上樓有一個叫做生活上樓所以他們甚至說產業園區裡面也有住宅然後也有其他的辦公空間那是新加坡他們的模式沒辦法複製到我們\n462889\t478139\t我們現在經濟部新設的產業園區我們在服務中心上面就會蓋這個宿舍跟生活所需的這個很好可是我現在要問的你剛剛講的大概是產惡啦\n479293\t484882\t就是說那個辦公的空間我現在要說的是產業尤其是過去傳統的產業園區那有沒有辦法在這次的產業園區立體化也讓他們打破過去的一個限制\n495397\t510753\t就比方說我嘉義有一個嘉泰產業園區嘉泰產業園區他是我們嘉義唯一的甲級的產業園區甲級的產業園區的土地非常的珍貴啊所以他根本就賣光光然後那裡的廠商他也找不到其他的\n511354\t536969\t其他的產業園區同樣有到甲級的資格啊所以他們一個期待就是說如果產業園區立體化我們把我們現有的廠房我們就把它更新更新後給我們容積獎勵讓我們蓋高一點當然在符合所有建築法規蓋高一點的情況之下我的生產線可以有更寬裕的空間我覺得這倒是一個很好的方式啊是的是的 這個我們是朝這個方向在努力\n537349\t562776\t好 我覺得這方面經濟部趕快把辦法定出來然後有一個具體作為因為我們不是說每次都一直腦袋裡面只想著喔我要再開發新的產業園區我要在哪裡再開發新的不能這樣過去的產業園區我們還是要給他這一些獎勵他們在這個產業園區已經在這裡紮根這麼久如果他們可以透過立體化爭取農基率的話他們會把廠房提升\n563817\t573707\t廠房提升甚至他們也可以導入綠能導入更多的東西進來是好不好我們會在今年內來公告實施這個步伐部長這個很期待好謝謝謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝趙偉那我們是不是有請部長郭部長委員好 部長好\n部長針對這一次的美國的一個對等關稅那當然台灣有相對應應應的措施所以行政院提出了這一個4100億的特別預算那這個特別預算裡面當然是由經濟部來做主責未來會由經濟部跟財政部來做聯席的一個審查\n那經濟部主責的大概就是在協助產業如何在這個時候第一個要安定第二個要幫他們找到國際市場我想說這個保定我們在過去幾次的諮詢我們都有講到那針對找協助產業去擴展他們的一個爭取海外訂單這件事那我們現在經濟部的具體做法我想請部長可不可以再說明一下\n是 報告委員我們大概因為這個關稅的問題造成台灣很多的這個中小微企業可能面臨在這個這個取單上面面臨到一個很大的窘境所以我們現在經濟部的做法就是說我們用一個品牌的名字叫台灣SELECT這個來把這個中小的企業把它整合起來所以我們帶他們一起到這個海外去參展\n不要再像過去 他們用兩個boost 三個boost 這個小小的boost然後去個別展 跟恰恰修一樣所以我們現在是用一個大的會館 台灣館台灣館來參展 然後讓各個企業都在裡面 再落在裡面讓我們幫助他們來取得這個訂單部長我想你說的應該是比較大的範圍\n如果是一個比較大型的比方說機械展這可能就有台灣館比方說整個類似的農機展類似這樣的概念但是有一些訂單的爭取那些展覽未必是那種大型的未必會變成台灣整體出去我們大概就是台灣一個品牌然後如果他的公司是比較中型的公司或者是比較比較有規模的公司我們就補貼\n所以說到補助這塊我想跟部長來講因為我們現在這個補助的規定就是說大概我們是看他如果要出去參加展覽然後我們大概就是補助他多少攤位那目前現在大概就是一個攤位我們會補助他4萬塊那如果他增加一個攤位就再增加就給他增加5000塊\n那上限就是六萬塊那我回答不斷地說那如果處理展覽一個攤位那真的不會看錢一個攤位小小的大概就六到八這個平方公尺六到八平方公尺所以通常有些人有要處理可能都要拚三個攤位四個攤位那種感覺說哇有這個陣仗做生意就是這樣做生意你如果不把責任出來有時那些長輩要催你那個誘因就比較不夠\n所以我現在會說 你如果用這樣一步走就是說你給他四萬塊 增加一個攤位五千塊可是你想廠商要出去爭取訂單事實上他花費是很多\n但是政府的補助力道看起來這樣小小的是 報告委員我想這一部分為什麼我們這次會增加到100億的預算這個也是這個院長跟這個總統在下鄉跟這個所有的業者座談的時候聽到大家的這個反應\n所以我們特別編列了比較高的這個費用來補助啦基本上我們是要改變那個參展的型態啦像剛才委員在指教的兩個攤位、三個攤位太衰、太渺小所以我就把它整合變成一百個部室,都台灣的\n我們裡面有各種應用的設施這樣的時候人家在看的人看到大嘛 說大就是美所以我們還會有現場的我們聘的人員我們聘的人員 翻譯的人員這都是經濟部\n外貿協會 或者是我們貿易署 我們聚能員在現場幫忙協助好 我覺得這個方向都很好 所以這個應該就是未來特別預算過後 然後這個就要趕緊實施這個要請大院各位委員來協助我相信未來我們應該會跟在野黨也一樣 大家一起趕快把這個4100億 趕快給過不要拘泥在一些小節 大家要趕快給過\n那我再具體建議啦,事實上我想跟部長說我們在這個補助參展,事實上我們應該做產業別,甚至營業額來做一個區隔我想要說營業額,我覺得補充這是我一個建議啦,你要去外國拚國際電端事實上如果沒有一定規模的公司,沒有那個能量\n所以我意思是說,我們既然要打的,是要打國際盃比如說我們在打棒球的時候,我們會不會是組台灣的一軍出去打?最強的給處理啊你最強的處理,我每次都會頂多,手長的我們最強的對我處理,我就打世界冠軍啊如果還在二軍的,可能就是他們的新調境所以我意思是說,如果這個產業的營業額越大\n應該要給他更多的補助讓他更有能量代表台灣隊去去國際把訂單徵取回來部長你支持這樣做嗎報告委員我想委員的這些指正我們都會朝這個方向來考慮不過我們希望以大代小\n所以事實上我覺得這個補助企業參加參展這個事情\n我們會強化然後第二個我想再請教一下因為我們這一次在因應這個關稅那我看到經濟部磊事實上有講到了一個概念叫做要來推動從過去就一直在講的產業園區立體化那我想要問一下部長我們這一次的產業園區立體化我們的具體作為是什麼\n我們產業園區具體化,基本上我們用容積獎勵,稍微大家的道路做寬一點,大家退縮一點,然後把原來的廠區我們可以朝高度上面去放寬\n所以是農機有辦法再做一些放寬嘛對不對好那農機放寬的話我想要跟部長說新加坡因為他的土地就那一點點嘛所以新加坡在做他的產業園區的時候都用一個叫做垂直分區的概念這個垂直分區有一個叫做產業上樓有一個叫做生活上樓所以他們甚至說產業園區裡面也有住宅然後也有其他的辦公空間那是新加坡他們的模式沒辦法複製到我們\n我們現在經濟部新設的產業園區我們在服務中心上面就會蓋這個宿舍跟生活所需的這個很好可是我現在要問的你剛剛講的大概是產惡啦\n就是說那個辦公的空間我現在要說的是產業尤其是過去傳統的產業園區那有沒有辦法在這次的產業園區立體化也讓他們打破過去的一個限制\n就比方說我嘉義有一個嘉泰產業園區嘉泰產業園區他是我們嘉義唯一的甲級的產業園區甲級的產業園區的土地非常的珍貴啊所以他根本就賣光光然後那裡的廠商他也找不到其他的\n其他的產業園區同樣有到甲級的資格啊所以他們一個期待就是說如果產業園區立體化我們把我們現有的廠房我們就把它更新更新後給我們容積獎勵讓我們蓋高一點當然在符合所有建築法規蓋高一點的情況之下我的生產線可以有更寬裕的空間我覺得這倒是一個很好的方式啊是的是的 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