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--> 00:00:31,871\n部長我們還是來關切有關於獨立遊戲的發展獨立遊戲是國家軟實力的一個發展的重要的展現那請教一下蘇花部對於獨立遊戲協助發展的重點在哪裡來請說明一下我們有當然就是說一個是對他們治安的協助另外就是說我們有一些獎金就是補助金\n\n3\n00:00:32,611 --> 00:00:48,824\n那補助過去在這個軟體開發我們有給就是一些這個計畫計畫補助那大概是用這方面去協助這個產業的發展當然在過去我們有上位的計畫是編了42億那3減了20億凍結了10億那單單這個獨立遊戲開發獎勵還有產品化加值計畫這個部分也原先也要編列1425萬\n\n4\n00:01:01,914 --> 00:01:24,562\n那大概每年會補助八至十家的獨立遊戲業者他的開發遊戲的一個基本的動能那我們現在來討論一下我們對於獨立遊戲的發展我認為大概是有三個面向我們要給予協助第一個當然是在資金的開發第二是技術的發展\n\n5\n00:01:26,397 --> 00:01:53,951\n第三是相關的行銷的推廣我們來討論一下場域及技術的支援這個部分那相關的我們樹花部對於技術的支援做的重點是如何來簡單說明一下這個我請署長署長趕快簡短謝謝委員長及關心獨立遊戲那在技術的部分我們在園山附近的DigibugC我們會有跟國內外大廠合作\n\n6\n00:01:54,791 --> 00:02:20,829\n來提供軟硬體讓我們這個獨立遊戲用另外我們也建立了一個動捕的一個實驗室也是給這個獨立遊戲來使用我們要提供創新的基地然後讓這個提供他們實體的這些場域以及社群交流的這些場域而且我認為應該是要跟國內外大廠合作讓原廠來提供這些原廠的軟硬體的技術的一些資源\n\n7\n00:02:23,157 --> 00:02:24,327\n另外在行銷的部分來\n\n8\n00:02:26,365 --> 00:02:52,362\n那跟委員快速報告一下我們主要是國內外國內的話我們會在台北電軟展我們有獨立遊戲的專區在台北台中跟高雄的這個資訊樂我們會展示獨立遊戲的成果國際拓展的部分國際拓展我們去年就帶了我們兩個獨立遊戲業者去參加日本的BitSummit那有兩個我們獨立遊戲廠商真的是表現得很好他們都獲得了大獎所以我們會持續這樣的一個路徑我們對於相關資金的這樣的一個\n\n9\n00:02:56,445 --> 00:03:24,696\n到位還是非常重要的那我們看到三位計畫被刪減了20億凍結了10億那刪減的部分是無法回頭啦但是凍結的部分應該要積極的解凍而且積極解凍之後我們要趕快的研議恢復獨立遊戲的這些獎補助來調整我們相關補助的規模因為錢還是被刪減的非常多過去一年補助8至10個\n\n10\n00:03:25,816 --> 00:03:54,672\n可能現在能補助幾個二至三個來署長因為解凍還沒有開始然後這一個還要做一個申請審查的我們會進來來努力看能不能救回幾個補助案這樣子那我們應該具體的恢復這些講補助的狀況有多少錢來做多少事那至少要補助二至三個遊戲另外我們也要協助找裁員找裁員來投入資金\n\n11\n00:03:56,232 --> 00:04:22,509\n給獨立遊戲的創作者要協助找裁員另外我們明年度要及早公布這些獨立遊戲的講座計畫的辦理程序這個都要提早另外時間我要請教相關網路詐騙的問題網路詐騙通報查詢網的成效我們必須來做檢視那到4月中旬通報了大概14萬筆的疑似詐騙廣告那大概有7萬4千筆確認下架\n\n12\n00:04:25,411 --> 00:04:46,874\n將近大概有50%左右是有效的處理每月看起來大概有一萬則疑似詐騙廣告被下架那其實看起來還是有大量通報沒有妥善的處理其實原因跟時程我們的社會大眾還不是很清楚我先請教一下沒有被下架的通報\n\n13\n00:04:47,955 --> 00:05:04,025\n大概是處於什麼狀態就是說他是通報是處於初步的確認還是我們這些核實的單位還在處理來簡單說明一下這個我再請那個署長說明跟委員報告只要可能有三種解第一個他不是詐騙\n\n14\n00:05:05,982 --> 00:05:30,780\n這是第一個第二個當然是部會可能要一點時間在路途當中第三個可能是它是高風險的所以它又變成是後來又變成高風險所以它有可能不是詐騙也有可能是在確認當中也有可能它是高風險的一個詐騙的廣告對但是不確定一定是詐騙的廣告那通常每一份通報你們處理的時間大概要多久來說明一下\n\n15\n00:05:31,923 --> 00:05:45,339\n我們24小時內一定要處理24小時內一定要處理那沒有處理的原因就是剛才三樣的主要原因可能他不是或者是他可能是而且是高風險的或是還要繼續的確認那\n\n16\n00:05:47,864 --> 00:06:12,055\n我們針對網路詐騙的這些查詢網目前通報的數量是非常龐大對不對那處理的效率看起來大概只能處理到一半的問題這是我們內部機制的問題還是這些量能的問題來說明一下都有處理只是說剛剛講因為有些是確定不是詐騙所以我們就所以剛剛講說但是你處理的時效還是太慢了\n\n17\n00:06:12,475 --> 00:06:36,164\n你大概只能處理一半左右的我們現在是說相關的造成延誤的還沒有處理的必須要更明快要加強我們內部的機制來做確認以及處理來署長說明一下是跟委員報告剛剛委員講14萬下架期那7萬是下架的但因為那7萬很多字是不是照片所以我們就沒有公佈在那個數字上面\n\n18\n00:06:36,804 --> 00:07:04,802\n這個都確認了那我問你這個廣告實名制實施到現在像Google、LINE、TikTok這些網路平台政府會要求他們24小時下架這些詐騙廣告對不對然後配合的情形呢目前都有配合配合的效率怎麼樣啊有像你講的24小時嗎沒有啊來署長說明一下\n\n19\n00:07:07,973 --> 00:07:24,364\n他們是會遵守法律的規定24小時但是有些可能他不認為是詐騙的所以這個是他需要更多的時間這個部分但是大部分的詐騙的訊息他會在24小時內下架這個都還是有相當大的問題的但是時間的關係\n\n20\n00:07:26,385 --> 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