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00:04:28,960\n那個委員所講的是資安的供給嗎還是如果資安的供給現在的確台灣是資安的供給熱點所以我們也就是剛剛講說用聯防機制我們擋掉了每天超過兩百四十萬次的供給然後所以事實上是已經在這個資安的防護上我們因為聯防因為公司部門的公司協力確實是擋掉很多但是當然還是有些入侵所以這個我們還要繼續努力但是\n\n12\n00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:54,453\n但是部長在我們的治安署最新的公佈國家自動安全情勢報告當中2024年觀光我們公務機關跟2023年來做比較我們是為真的那你們做了那麼多的機制竟然連我們公部門都為真都敢這麼做那我們要怎麼樣去防治這個就是本席一個\n\n13\n00:04:56,290 --> 00:05:23,817\n剛剛所說的我們既然設置了這些的機制但是答案還是不滿意的時候我們要去精進這個方案啦這個是非常的重要因為在你治安事件的類型當中以非法入侵的事件是佔了62.52這個是非常高的一個比例啊所以在治安治理的管理上面我們認為我們多數還是停滯在什麼停滯在指引建議\n\n14\n00:05:25,257 --> 00:05:45,169\n報告委員我們現在有個治安法修法正在修那個如果修過之後會幫助我們治安房屋很大部長你講的就是本期要跟你討論的既然我們的答案是不如我們的理想的時候我們該當修法就是要修法那你們的進度現在到哪裡治安法已經我們詢答過了現在就是在做逐條的審查我們應該很快\n\n15\n00:05:46,670 --> 00:06:12,579\n所以要趕快盡快的去溝通因為這個已經佔了62點多觀光部門就是如此所以我們非常社會上非常迫切的需要因為我們看到我們應變的能力或許在法的立場上面你們還沒有更寬廣所以該修法就要修法該政策落實就要政策落實因為這個應變能力處理事件民眾認為他的透明度是不夠的他沒有辦法有效的去防範\n\n16\n00:06:13,886 --> 00:06:38,134\n修法我們會加速進行因為我們的目的也就是要強化政府治安體系的一個韌性最後一個議題我跟你討論數位領域的就業金卡我們從2023年上路到現在兩年到了今年二月底我們總共764人獲得了數位金卡其中以美國跟亞洲地區的人才為主那麼你們主要的類型就在於軟體開發\n\n17\n00:06:39,474 --> 00:06:55,043\n城市設計電商跟治安的這個技術領域但是我們看到全球都在搶人才啊以及國內產業它轉型它非常的需要這些高科技的一個技術人才所以我們金卡的政策請問\n\n18\n00:06:56,224 --> 00:07:20,114\n目前到目前為止我們的規模跟實際上導入的人力似乎還是有限還是有限為什麼會如此呢大家都這麼缺那所以我們現在兩年統計的數字764人到底我們人才進到我們台灣來他的後續落地他的創業跟就業的一個成果評估跟追蹤請說什麼\n\n19\n00:07:23,766 --> 00:07:40,030\n因為這個庶產署可以做個說明好請做說明是各位報告我們會持續追蹤那我們在這爭取人才也是花了很大力氣我們跟國發會到美國到歐洲到東南亞到日本這個本席清楚所以本席請教你764人落到我們台灣來目前還在台灣貢獻還在就業的\n\n20\n00:07:44,315 --> 00:07:53,924\n有多少跟委員報告有一部分是本來在台灣的外國公司的外國人對他要長期在這邊所以現在你764位還有多少繼續在服務\n\n21\n00:07:58,004 --> 00:08:24,167\n你的追蹤成果呢我們會在持續中不過目前比較沒有出不過一大部分的確是外國公司在台灣的人才部長這個就是我們說的部長我們今天我們英明的召集人安排了這個議程這是你們的課業你今天已經兩年了不是兩個月你已經兩年你今天764人\n\n22\n00:08:26,783 --> 00:08:47,392\n你到底你的成效是怎麼樣你應該要有所評估如果我們的數字是不夠的產業界還需要那麼你們的誘因是什麼因為你們有基本的條件嘛你要滿8年的這個經驗而且公司的月薪要16萬以上而且他的學歷要跟這個相關科系\n\n23\n00:08:48,192 --> 00:09:11,510\n那你們應該去統計你的結果到底是怎麼樣我們做任何的事情你一定要去反覆的去討論你的成果究竟是什麼很好繼續發揚不好我們要達不到理想我們要怎麼樣去精進嘛你怎麼到現在連你764人到底還有多少人落地留任還繼續在努力你不知道\n\n24\n00:09:13,298 --> 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還繼續在努力你不知道\n553298\t582338\t報委員這個回去我們再去整理以後再給委員一個報告不可以如此要精進你把你檢討目前為止你兩年來這個成效符不符合你的要求我認為產業界的需求你絕對達不到他的符合嘛所以如果是如此的時候你的誘因到底要怎麼去調整好不好你去查明你的評估結果到底是怎麼樣可以精進的方案是什麼我們來協助我們的產業嘛好嗎加油\n","txt":"我們來討論這個通訊軟體它是已經成為民眾生活日常生活的一部分但是詐騙集團透過了各種方式盜用帳號竊密讓國人受害者日日在增加\n所以據媒體報導在4月23號的時候盜用帳號事件陳述不窮連行政院前政務委員的LINE都被盜用了那麼對此你們的產業署署長他也表示已經邀請了警政署、刑事局等單位跟日本的LINE總公司來開會那他承諾會將處理的量能\n從每週100件提升為200件並加快處理的流程這是你們在4月23號的時候對於這個事件我們看到的一個訊息所以在這邊請教部長我們是不是已經有要求賴公司對台灣受害的這個案件來設立緊急停權\n以及快速恢復專案的這個機制請做說明我們這個跟那裡持續溝通那個細節我請是署長還是來署長那這個\n跟委員報告這個次長也親自來主持跟LINE的一些會議那剛剛已經在報告就是說re-login的話他這個取回他的帳號等等這些好 次長說明那個就是我們昨天有跟LINE開會那LINE他們表示說他們最新版已經上架了的那個最新版的LINE它有一個功能就是說如果我的LINE帳號被詐騙集團被騙走了那我馬上再登入的話在我原來手機上登入我就可以把這個帳號再搶回來\n再搶回來 恢復過來對 恢復過來那這個新的版本已經上架了但是並不是所有的民眾都更新到最新的版本所以我們在這邊也要呼籲所有的民眾盡快的把手機上的LINE版本更新到最新的版本這是昨天LINE公司總公司告訴我們的所以你們必須台灣公司LINE的台灣公司所以必須好好去宣導很多的民眾還不知道他如果沒有更新他就沒有這個機制\n是所以一定要好好去宣導是那麼在這邊我特別要說的就是說美國跟韓國他都已經重新的調整整個治安防疫的這個架構那我們呢他們設置的專責機構強化跨部會因為也不是只有你們到時候還要比如說警政單位等橫向的一個聯訪非常的重要請教\n我們本來就那個有治安聯防的機制嘛治安署那個可以做個蔡署長做個報告好 署長請做說明是的 謝謝委員的關心我想這個我們整個治安聯防我們就有一個治安的情資分享中心跟一個監控跟應變中心那每個關鍵機構設施他們都有領域的這些包括我們的情資分享跟監控還有應變的中心都有所以這整個聯防體系都有建立\n部長您聽到署長的報告整個都有建立但是目前民眾還是非常的不安因為我們的防治機制本身認為有提升的一個空間因為我們注意任何的政策任何的法律面我們就要看他的答案如果他的答案是不符合您所\n設置的 而且是你自己都不滿意在這樣的情況之下我們更要去討論面對民眾所需求\n那個委員所講的是資安的供給嗎還是如果資安的供給現在的確台灣是資安的供給熱點所以我們也就是剛剛講說用聯防機制我們擋掉了每天超過兩百四十萬次的供給然後所以事實上是已經在這個資安的防護上我們因為聯防因為公司部門的公司協力確實是擋掉很多但是當然還是有些入侵所以這個我們還要繼續努力但是\n但是部長在我們的治安署最新的公佈國家自動安全情勢報告當中2024年觀光我們公務機關跟2023年來做比較我們是為真的那你們做了那麼多的機制竟然連我們公部門都為真都敢這麼做那我們要怎麼樣去防治這個就是本席一個\n剛剛所說的我們既然設置了這些的機制但是答案還是不滿意的時候我們要去精進這個方案啦這個是非常的重要因為在你治安事件的類型當中以非法入侵的事件是佔了62.52這個是非常高的一個比例啊所以在治安治理的管理上面我們認為我們多數還是停滯在什麼停滯在指引建議\n報告委員我們現在有個治安法修法正在修那個如果修過之後會幫助我們治安房屋很大部長你講的就是本期要跟你討論的既然我們的答案是不如我們的理想的時候我們該當修法就是要修法那你們的進度現在到哪裡治安法已經我們詢答過了現在就是在做逐條的審查我們應該很快\n所以要趕快盡快的去溝通因為這個已經佔了62點多觀光部門就是如此所以我們非常社會上非常迫切的需要因為我們看到我們應變的能力或許在法的立場上面你們還沒有更寬廣所以該修法就要修法該政策落實就要政策落實因為這個應變能力處理事件民眾認為他的透明度是不夠的他沒有辦法有效的去防範\n修法我們會加速進行因為我們的目的也就是要強化政府治安體系的一個韌性最後一個議題我跟你討論數位領域的就業金卡我們從2023年上路到現在兩年到了今年二月底我們總共764人獲得了數位金卡其中以美國跟亞洲地區的人才為主那麼你們主要的類型就在於軟體開發\n城市設計 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