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00:02:18,128\n各種匯率比較升值現在是這個趨勢這個趨勢反映出關稅貿易政策的調整過程當中各國都還在調適但是我知道我們這樣的升值對國內的產業以及出國產業會造成相當大的衝擊所以我們才提出了這個產業支持的方案我們希望從各方面來幫忙產業度過這次的衝擊那或許我們現在面臨的狀況\n\n6\n00:02:22,233 --> 00:02:48,542\n有在我們的判斷當中但是他並沒有發生到現在我們不可控的狀況所以沒有來自美方的壓力楊總裁之前在這個地方已經正式的答覆我們沒有接到任何但是我是認為五會式的穩定是政府必該必應要有一番作為的所以我們對股市的穩定我們從四月初到現在有一套穩定的作為但會會會\n\n7\n00:02:50,923 --> 00:03:14,060\n匯率到底是國際的情勢影響很大那我們現在是持續的觀察我剛剛說我們現在這個預期是有的但是沒有發生到我們現在不可控的狀況前幾天可能沒有可是今天這個市場狀況也沒有看到央行出手干預一天的時間台幣兌美元匯率漲了八角\n\n8\n00:03:17,359 --> 00:03:37,668\n這個比率是非常的高從33塊到現在31塊大概沒有幾天的時間已經漲了快超過6%接近快10%台幣這樣再繼續走下有沒有可能升值到30塊台幣兌換1美元呢我們是在\n\n9\n00:03:39,059 --> 00:03:58,317\n持續的關注這個狀況但是央行對匯率的掌握他並沒有用行政上去干預太多因為我們不是一個政治干預貨幣的一個國家我們還是認為這個市場機制但是政府的關心跟業界的問題要連結在一起這個是政府的責任主席不要忘記了\n\n10\n00:03:59,378 --> 00:04:22,498\n我們的外匯存底裡面有92%大概4000多億的美元都是買美國公債相關的公債買了很多那萬一哪一天台幣又升值突破了27塊的話那我們相對的未實現的損失就會變很大很大\n\n11\n00:04:23,677 --> 00:04:49,485\n我們有一些金融機構過去對於一些美債的一些購買目前正式遭受到剛剛委員所說的這個狀況長到這樣的一個結果我們也在做一些體質上的調整那國家更應該及早的因應我們除了央行的外匯存底買美債請問台灣的售險公司產險公司以及金融相關公司\n\n12\n00:04:50,663 --> 00:04:55,154\n究竟買了多少的美國公債以及美國的公司債\n\n13\n00:04:57,063 --> 00:05:22,275\n這些民營的機構民營的單位他們長期追求的是一個長期穩定的獲利所以購買各國比較安定的公債當然他們選項之一啦我想各國都會現在有一些基本上避險的思考那這個要一段時間慢慢來調適那這個要小心啦你現在一個籃子而已啊單一啊全部壓在美國壓在美金上面如果\n\n14\n00:05:24,906 --> 00:05:35,482\n美元全世界的地位它已經動搖了甚至它如果大幅的貶值為了讓美國再次偉大\n\n15\n00:05:36,564 --> 00:06:02,888\n那我們台灣的相關美元計價的資產可能就會遭受很嚴重的損失但是我相信任何一個國家對自己貨幣快速期間內、短期間內的大幅度的貶值對這個國家的財政都不是一個單純的好處而已它也會帶來很多的後遺症所以我相信各國政府都應該有一套自己在避險或是對貨率安定的一個措施\n\n16\n00:06:03,735 --> 00:06:12,451\n日本的廣場協議造成日本失落三十年因見不遠希望院長多多思考一下\n\n17\n00:06:13,490 --> 00:06:38,464\n我們很關切廣場決議之後造成的日幣在國際市場上面的因素但是我說目前來看我們沒有感受到這樣的直接的壓力來給台灣政府或是世界上它這是一個普遍性的狀況我們還在觀察它後續的發展所以就要多小心啦那因應國際局勢的變化事實上本席跟以前前委員吳信穎委員也提過\n\n18\n00:06:39,644 --> 00:06:55,994\n應該要成立一個主權基金帶領百工百業可以走向國際因為人是英雄錢是大如果有主權基金出去再配合一些企業我們高科技等等到各國去\n\n19\n00:06:56,910 --> 00:07:11,805\n談判去發展去做觀光也才會有利所以主權基金現在推動的情況不曉得院長大概進行到什麼地步大概他的規模size大概是會多少\n\n20\n00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:26,823\n過去我們當然是比較謹慎而保守啦那我認為現在國家的財力我們的產業的發展以及國際的局勢台灣應該能夠比較主動性的來討論這個話題包括它將來一定要有個專法來管理\n\n21\n00:07:27,995 --> 00:07:47,803\n有一個專業的管理的單位機制甚至他的資金的來源資金的規模都必須要在一個公開透明的機制裡面來做運作才可以那目前我們只是在一個構想上是朝比以前比較起來我們比較採取主動開放討論的方式那我認為他要距離我們成立\n\n22\n00:07:48,868 --> 00:08:16,689\n除非我們還要有一個很快的力道很大的力道讓他能夠有一個專法的成立否則現在我們這個還在一個討論的過程當中可以參考一下新加坡的主權基金是非常成功的例子還有新加坡的國家基金他不到90天就成立了我希望說這個可以請院長幕僚大家研究一下因為本席來自地方有一些相關的議題要趕緊要跟院長請教\n\n23\n00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:37,253\n那個請問一下五一勞動節的時候院長有沒有放假沒有沒有放假我們立委沒放假那變成說有七大行業有的要工作那問題都有小朋友啊可以說是天下大亂要接小孩的啦或者是不再要吃飯的通通是問題請問院長\n\n24\n00:08:39,514 --> 00:09:02,499\n五一勞動節可不可以調整全國的一致的放假情況五一勞動節針對勞工朋友的放假我想這個是一個最高的尊敬對勞工朋友們那當然他沒有全國性的放假也行之多年我想家長以及各個單位在調適上也已經相當有經驗到未來我認為我們在國家生產力的結構\n\n25\n00:09:04,639 --> 00:09:28,755\n檢討底下跟國家經濟成長的結構底下這個議題是可以討論的是可以討論的但是我也希望說勞資雙方要有和諧的討論基礎是我們希望多一點彈性不然這些爸爸媽媽接這個小朋友可以接得眼花繚亂接得頭非常的痛那另外再請教一下就是現在的官貿大戰的情況之下\n\n26\n00:09:29,970 --> 00:09:58,511\n過去台灣因為說要加入WTO造成紅標米酒漲到一瓶180塊現在又是面臨關稅談判的時刻那如果照REN69標準來課稅的話會不會再一次的演變出台灣紅標米酒最必需的民生用品又開始飆漲所以早年的經驗告訴我們我們選擇用料理米酒的方式\n\n27\n00:10:01,328 --> 00:10:19,966\n脫開這個所謂增六九的方式用每公升來計價跟增六九用每度來計價是不一樣的我們已經有這樣的經驗我想這個是現在現存的至少在這個基礎之上我們應該維持現在的機制紅標米酒不會漲價我們已經有料理米酒了所以不會漲價我認為在談判過程當中對方也應該顧及到我國消費市場的習慣\n\n28\n00:10:26,052 --> 00:10:52,291\n謝謝多努力另外在這裡要拜託院長大力來支持深坑輕軌的推動因為喊了快15年了我們在地方不分藍綠從蘇貞昌蘇縣長到院長都說要大力支持現在的進度就是拜託交通部能大力支持\n\n29\n00:10:53,206 --> 00:11:15,111\n可行性評估通過了以後後面才會有綜合規劃環境影響評估以及都市計畫變更等等的作業過去蓋一條深坑輕軌大概金額比較低一百多億現在聽說因為原物料又漲工又漲聽說金額要\n\n30\n00:11:17,915 --> 00:11:39,306\n往上調那這一條深坑清軌我覺得深坑是台北市的後花園禮拜六禮拜天深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠拜託拜託周院長大力支持讓深坑清軌可以早日完工\n\n31\n00:11:40,331 --> 00:11:55,368\n現在很多的重大的公共工程爆來的修正計畫都如委員所說的都是幾乎成加倍或者是50%、60%、70%這樣的幅度再加所以我說今天不做明天是做不下去的所以\n\n32\n00:11:55,908 --> 00:12:19,321\n但是深坑輕軌這個事情他現在原來的評估啦對他的自償率還不足的問題是列為一個參考評估的一個重點但是我認為國家的財政跟地方的發展我們對自償率應該有一個比較廣闊的開放態度如果國家財政不好當然我們希望這樣子如果國家財政好我們希望用交通帶動地方建設的這個觀念要把它轉化下去\n\n33\n00:12:20,466 --> 00:12:40,432\n其實很認同院長所講其實不用害怕因為捷運到哪裡其實都更就發展到哪裡就帶動起來而且深坑離101大概不用十幾分鐘的路程就可以到所以非常的近所以我把它定位為台北市的後花園\n\n34\n00:12:41,312 --> 00:13:09,268\n希望我們所有大台北所有的朋友如果要到後花園的時候輕軌一坐很方便在那邊環境又漂亮還有深坑的臭豆腐美食也都不錯還可以間接的帶動地方觀光的發展所以謝謝院長大力支持另外也拜託周院長可以大力來支持安坑的特異號道路第三期因為大家都知道有了\n\n35\n00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:39,504\n這個特一號道路一期以後所有的安坑的輕軌已經完工通車了本席多年的在這裡大力的爭取非常感謝行政院相關部門大力的支持已經通車了而且當地所有的居民反應非常棒但是現在這個路基的部分就是有一期二期安坑特一號道路就是需要第三期過去大概七八十億\n\n36\n00:13:40,226 --> 00:13:49,765\n現在恐怕要90億了但是第三期如果做好了對整個大台北華城對那邊學校康橋\n\n37\n00:13:52,854 --> 00:14:19,104\n國際中小學以及附近所有的大型社區的交通幫助非常非常的需要所以在這裡拜託能大力支持安坑一號道路的第三期包括華城快速道路的興建報告員這個部分要請這個新北市政府用這個生活圈計畫的道路來申請補助\n\n38\n00:14:19,764 --> 00:14:42,359\n那看是內政部或者是交通部我們兩個部會來協調看有誰來協助好謝謝那我們就大力來推動另外還有一個就是安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道安城快速道路現在從安坑交流道到中和交流道就是北要高的部分\n\n39\n00:14:43,482 --> 00:15:02,314\n常常堵車堵得非常的厲害時事物不到20公里如果在五城那個地方就安坑特業道路直接翻山越嶺穿過去就接到土城交流道非常的便捷那也需要在這裡拜託院長大力支持\n\n40\n00:15:06,381 --> 00:15:29,873\n跟剛剛那條是一樣的,他可以透過這個生活圈計畫來中央申請補助因為他如果是都市計畫內就是有內政部,都市計畫外交通部在思考幹什麼樣協助那我們一起努力另外還有一個安坑輕軌可不可以串聯到規劃中的中和光復線因為安坑輕軌已經OK了,直接拉過去更方便\n\n41\n00:15:39,889 --> 00:15:40,270\n好謝謝羅明財委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6818\t16281\t韓院長在座卓院長以及行政團隊各位委員大家午安韓院長可不可以請卓院長老闆再請卓院長備詢卓院長好我們看到國際的局勢\n30712\t53005\t變化萬千啦短短的一個月內台幣從新台幣33塊兌換1美元急升到接近快31塊今天今天已經破紀錄了一天就升值了快0.8角院長\n59619\t86659\t台幣一直升值已經快接近了楊金榮總裁的防線這個防線以及新台幣的強勢是不是受到了什麼樣的壓力為什麼會那麼急升這個對國內的一些企業以及像觀光客來台灣的情況會不會有什麼不同的影響\n88043\t113806\t日前楊總裁在答詢的過程當中也提到台灣長期來看是一個匯率穩定的國家我們也沒有強力的去操縱它就交由市場機制那目前我們也沒有受到任何的壓力對貨幣有任何升值的壓力但是還是取決於市場的機制但世界依照美元的走向美元比較疲軟\n114670\t138128\t各種匯率比較升值現在是這個趨勢這個趨勢反映出關稅貿易政策的調整過程當中各國都還在調適但是我知道我們這樣的升值對國內的產業以及出國產業會造成相當大的衝擊所以我們才提出了這個產業支持的方案我們希望從各方面來幫忙產業度過這次的衝擊那或許我們現在面臨的狀況\n142233\t168542\t有在我們的判斷當中但是他並沒有發生到現在我們不可控的狀況所以沒有來自美方的壓力楊總裁之前在這個地方已經正式的答覆我們沒有接到任何但是我是認為五會式的穩定是政府必該必應要有一番作為的所以我們對股市的穩定我們從四月初到現在有一套穩定的作為但會會會\n170923\t194060\t匯率到底是國際的情勢影響很大那我們現在是持續的觀察我剛剛說我們現在這個預期是有的但是沒有發生到我們現在不可控的狀況前幾天可能沒有可是今天這個市場狀況也沒有看到央行出手干預一天的時間台幣兌美元匯率漲了八角\n197359\t217668\t這個比率是非常的高從33塊到現在31塊大概沒有幾天的時間已經漲了快超過6%接近快10%台幣這樣再繼續走下有沒有可能升值到30塊台幣兌換1美元呢我們是在\n219059\t238317\t持續的關注這個狀況但是央行對匯率的掌握他並沒有用行政上去干預太多因為我們不是一個政治干預貨幣的一個國家我們還是認為這個市場機制但是政府的關心跟業界的問題要連結在一起這個是政府的責任主席不要忘記了\n239378\t262498\t我們的外匯存底裡面有92%大概4000多億的美元都是買美國公債相關的公債買了很多那萬一哪一天台幣又升值突破了27塊的話那我們相對的未實現的損失就會變很大很大\n263677\t289485\t我們有一些金融機構過去對於一些美債的一些購買目前正式遭受到剛剛委員所說的這個狀況長到這樣的一個結果我們也在做一些體質上的調整那國家更應該及早的因應我們除了央行的外匯存底買美債請問台灣的售險公司產險公司以及金融相關公司\n290663\t295154\t究竟買了多少的美國公債以及美國的公司債\n297063\t322275\t這些民營的機構 民營的單位他們長期追求的是一個長期穩定的獲利所以購買各國比較安定的公債當然他們選項之一啦我想各國都會現在有一些基本上避險的思考那這個要一段時間慢慢來調適那這個要小心啦你現在一個籃子而已啊 單一啊全部壓在美國 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我們希望多一點彈性不然這些爸爸媽媽接這個小朋友可以接得眼花繚亂接得頭非常的痛那另外再請教一下就是現在的官貿大戰的情況之下\n569970\t598511\t過去台灣因為說要加入WTO造成紅標米酒漲到一瓶180塊現在又是面臨關稅談判的時刻那如果照REN69標準來課稅的話會不會再一次的演變出台灣紅標米酒最必需的民生用品又開始飆漲所以早年的經驗告訴我們我們選擇用料理米酒的方式\n601328\t619966\t脫開這個所謂增六九的方式用每公升來計價跟增六九用每度來計價是不一樣的我們已經有這樣的經驗我想這個是現在現存的至少在這個基礎之上我們應該維持現在的機制紅標米酒不會漲價我們已經有料理米酒了所以不會漲價我認為在談判過程當中對方也應該顧及到我國消費市場的習慣\n626052\t652291\t謝謝 多努力另外在這裡要拜託院長大力來支持深坑輕軌的推動因為喊了快15年了我們在地方不分藍綠從蘇貞昌 蘇縣長到院長都說要大力支持現在的進度就是拜託交通部能大力支持\n653206\t675111\t可行性評估通過了以後後面才會有綜合規劃環境影響評估以及都市計畫變更等等的作業過去蓋一條深坑輕軌大概金額比較低一百多億現在聽說因為原物料又漲 工又漲聽說金額要\n677915\t699306\t往上調那這一條深坑清軌我覺得深坑是台北市的後花園禮拜六禮拜天深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠拜託拜託周院長大力支持讓深坑清軌可以早日完工\n700331\t715368\t現在很多的重大的公共工程爆來的修正計畫都如委員所說的都是幾乎成加倍或者是50%、60%、70%這樣的幅度再加所以我說今天不做明天是做不下去的所以\n715908\t739321\t但是深坑輕軌這個事情他現在原來的評估啦對他的自償率還不足的問題是列為一個參考評估的一個重點但是我認為國家的財政跟地方的發展我們對自償率應該有一個比較廣闊的開放態度如果國家財政不好當然我們希望這樣子如果國家財政好我們希望用交通帶動地方建設的這個觀念要把它轉化下去\n740466\t760432\t其實很認同院長所講其實不用害怕因為捷運到哪裡其實都更就發展到哪裡就帶動起來而且深坑離101大概不用十幾分鐘的路程就可以到所以非常的近所以我把它定位為台北市的後花園\n761312\t789268\t希望我們所有大台北所有的朋友如果要到後花園的時候輕軌一坐很方便在那邊環境又漂亮還有深坑的臭豆腐美食也都不錯還可以間接的帶動地方觀光的發展所以謝謝院長大力支持另外也拜託周院長可以大力來支持安坑的特異號道路第三期因為大家都知道有了\n790748\t819504\t這個特一號道路一期以後所有的安坑的輕軌已經完工通車了本席多年的在這裡大力的爭取非常感謝行政院相關部門大力的支持已經通車了而且當地所有的居民反應非常棒但是現在這個路基的部分就是有一期二期安坑特一號道路就是需要第三期過去大概七八十億\n820226\t829765\t現在恐怕要90億了但是第三期如果做好了對整個大台北華城對那邊學校康橋\n832854\t859104\t國際中小學以及附近所有的大型社區的交通幫助非常非常的需要所以在這裡拜託能大力支持安坑一號道路的第三期包括華城快速道路的興建報告員這個部分要請這個新北市政府用這個生活圈計畫的道路來申請補助\n859764\t882359\t那看是內政部或者是交通部我們兩個部會來協調看有誰來協助好 謝謝那我們就大力來推動另外還有一個就是安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道安城快速道路現在從安坑交流道到中和交流道就是北要高的部分\n883482\t902314\t常常堵車堵得非常的厲害時事物不到20公里如果在五城那個地方就安坑特業道路直接翻山越嶺穿過去就接到土城交流道非常的便捷那也需要在這裡拜託院長大力支持\n906381\t929873\t跟剛剛那條是一樣的,他可以透過這個生活圈計畫來中央申請補助因為他如果是都市計畫內就是有內政部,都市計畫外交通部在思考幹什麼樣協助那我們一起努力另外還有一個安坑輕軌可不可以串聯到規劃中的中和光復線因為安坑輕軌已經OK了,直接拉過去更方便\n939889\t940270\t好 謝謝羅明財委員\n","txt":"韓院長在座卓院長以及行政團隊各位委員大家午安韓院長可不可以請卓院長老闆再請卓院長備詢卓院長好我們看到國際的局勢\n變化萬千啦短短的一個月內台幣從新台幣33塊兌換1美元急升到接近快31塊今天今天已經破紀錄了一天就升值了快0.8角院長\n台幣一直升值已經快接近了楊金榮總裁的防線這個防線以及新台幣的強勢是不是受到了什麼樣的壓力為什麼會那麼急升這個對國內的一些企業以及像觀光客來台灣的情況會不會有什麼不同的影響\n日前楊總裁在答詢的過程當中也提到台灣長期來看是一個匯率穩定的國家我們也沒有強力的去操縱它就交由市場機制那目前我們也沒有受到任何的壓力對貨幣有任何升值的壓力但是還是取決於市場的機制但世界依照美元的走向美元比較疲軟\n各種匯率比較升值現在是這個趨勢這個趨勢反映出關稅貿易政策的調整過程當中各國都還在調適但是我知道我們這樣的升值對國內的產業以及出國產業會造成相當大的衝擊所以我們才提出了這個產業支持的方案我們希望從各方面來幫忙產業度過這次的衝擊那或許我們現在面臨的狀況\n有在我們的判斷當中但是他並沒有發生到現在我們不可控的狀況所以沒有來自美方的壓力楊總裁之前在這個地方已經正式的答覆我們沒有接到任何但是我是認為五會式的穩定是政府必該必應要有一番作為的所以我們對股市的穩定我們從四月初到現在有一套穩定的作為但會會會\n匯率到底是國際的情勢影響很大那我們現在是持續的觀察我剛剛說我們現在這個預期是有的但是沒有發生到我們現在不可控的狀況前幾天可能沒有可是今天這個市場狀況也沒有看到央行出手干預一天的時間台幣兌美元匯率漲了八角\n這個比率是非常的高從33塊到現在31塊大概沒有幾天的時間已經漲了快超過6%接近快10%台幣這樣再繼續走下有沒有可能升值到30塊台幣兌換1美元呢我們是在\n持續的關注這個狀況但是央行對匯率的掌握他並沒有用行政上去干預太多因為我們不是一個政治干預貨幣的一個國家我們還是認為這個市場機制但是政府的關心跟業界的問題要連結在一起這個是政府的責任主席不要忘記了\n我們的外匯存底裡面有92%大概4000多億的美元都是買美國公債相關的公債買了很多那萬一哪一天台幣又升值突破了27塊的話那我們相對的未實現的損失就會變很大很大\n我們有一些金融機構過去對於一些美債的一些購買目前正式遭受到剛剛委員所說的這個狀況長到這樣的一個結果我們也在做一些體質上的調整那國家更應該及早的因應我們除了央行的外匯存底買美債請問台灣的售險公司產險公司以及金融相關公司\n究竟買了多少的美國公債以及美國的公司債\n這些民營的機構 民營的單位他們長期追求的是一個長期穩定的獲利所以購買各國比較安定的公債當然他們選項之一啦我想各國都會現在有一些基本上避險的思考那這個要一段時間慢慢來調適那這個要小心啦你現在一個籃子而已啊 單一啊全部壓在美國 壓在美金上面如果\n美元全世界的地位它已經動搖了甚至它如果大幅的貶值為了讓美國再次偉大\n那我們台灣的相關美元計價的資產可能就會遭受很嚴重的損失但是我相信任何一個國家對自己貨幣快速期間內、短期間內的大幅度的貶值對這個國家的財政都不是一個單純的好處而已它也會帶來很多的後遺症所以我相信各國政府都應該有一套自己在避險或是對貨率安定的一個措施\n日本的廣場協議造成日本失落三十年因見不遠希望院長多多思考一下\n我們很關切廣場決議之後造成的日幣在國際市場上面的因素但是我說目前來看我們沒有感受到這樣的直接的壓力來給台灣政府或是世界上它這是一個普遍性的狀況我們還在觀察它後續的發展所以就要多小心啦那因應國際局勢的變化事實上本席跟以前前委員吳信穎委員也提過\n應該要成立一個主權基金帶領百工百業可以走向國際因為人是英雄錢是大如果有主權基金出去再配合一些企業我們高科技等等到各國去\n談判去發展去做觀光也才會有利所以主權基金現在推動的情況不曉得院長大概進行到什麼地步大概他的規模size大概是會多少\n過去我們當然是比較謹慎而保守啦那我認為現在國家的財力我們的產業的發展以及國際的局勢台灣應該能夠比較主動性的來討論這個話題包括它將來一定要有個專法來管理\n有一個專業的管理的單位機制甚至他的資金的來源資金的規模都必須要在一個公開透明的機制裡面來做運作才可以那目前我們只是在一個構想上是朝比以前比較起來我們比較採取主動開放討論的方式那我認為他要距離我們成立\n除非我們還要有一個很快的力道很大的力道讓他能夠有一個專法的成立否則現在我們這個還在一個討論的過程當中可以參考一下新加坡的主權基金是非常成功的例子還有新加坡的國家基金他不到90天就成立了我希望說這個可以請院長幕僚大家研究一下因為本席來自地方有一些相關的議題要趕緊要跟院長請教\n那個請問一下五一勞動節的時候院長有沒有放假沒有沒有放假我們立委沒放假那變成說有七大行業有的要工作那問題都有小朋友啊可以說是天下大亂要接小孩的啦或者是不再要吃飯的通通是問題請問院長\n五一勞動節可不可以調整全國的一致的放假情況五一勞動節針對勞工朋友的放假我想這個是一個最高的尊敬對勞工朋友們那當然他沒有全國性的放假也行之多年我想家長以及各個單位在調適上也已經相當有經驗到未來我認為我們在國家生產力的結構\n檢討底下跟國家經濟成長的結構底下這個議題是可以討論的是可以討論的但是我也希望說勞資雙方要有和諧的討論基礎是 我們希望多一點彈性不然這些爸爸媽媽接這個小朋友可以接得眼花繚亂接得頭非常的痛那另外再請教一下就是現在的官貿大戰的情況之下\n過去台灣因為說要加入WTO造成紅標米酒漲到一瓶180塊現在又是面臨關稅談判的時刻那如果照REN69標準來課稅的話會不會再一次的演變出台灣紅標米酒最必需的民生用品又開始飆漲所以早年的經驗告訴我們我們選擇用料理米酒的方式\n脫開這個所謂增六九的方式用每公升來計價跟增六九用每度來計價是不一樣的我們已經有這樣的經驗我想這個是現在現存的至少在這個基礎之上我們應該維持現在的機制紅標米酒不會漲價我們已經有料理米酒了所以不會漲價我認為在談判過程當中對方也應該顧及到我國消費市場的習慣\n謝謝 多努力另外在這裡要拜託院長大力來支持深坑輕軌的推動因為喊了快15年了我們在地方不分藍綠從蘇貞昌 蘇縣長到院長都說要大力支持現在的進度就是拜託交通部能大力支持\n可行性評估通過了以後後面才會有綜合規劃環境影響評估以及都市計畫變更等等的作業過去蓋一條深坑輕軌大概金額比較低一百多億現在聽說因為原物料又漲 工又漲聽說金額要\n往上調那這一條深坑清軌我覺得深坑是台北市的後花園禮拜六禮拜天深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠拜託拜託周院長大力支持讓深坑清軌可以早日完工\n現在很多的重大的公共工程爆來的修正計畫都如委員所說的都是幾乎成加倍或者是50%、60%、70%這樣的幅度再加所以我說今天不做明天是做不下去的所以\n但是深坑輕軌這個事情他現在原來的評估啦對他的自償率還不足的問題是列為一個參考評估的一個重點但是我認為國家的財政跟地方的發展我們對自償率應該有一個比較廣闊的開放態度如果國家財政不好當然我們希望這樣子如果國家財政好我們希望用交通帶動地方建設的這個觀念要把它轉化下去\n其實很認同院長所講其實不用害怕因為捷運到哪裡其實都更就發展到哪裡就帶動起來而且深坑離101大概不用十幾分鐘的路程就可以到所以非常的近所以我把它定位為台北市的後花園\n希望我們所有大台北所有的朋友如果要到後花園的時候輕軌一坐很方便在那邊環境又漂亮還有深坑的臭豆腐美食也都不錯還可以間接的帶動地方觀光的發展所以謝謝院長大力支持另外也拜託周院長可以大力來支持安坑的特異號道路第三期因為大家都知道有了\n這個特一號道路一期以後所有的安坑的輕軌已經完工通車了本席多年的在這裡大力的爭取非常感謝行政院相關部門大力的支持已經通車了而且當地所有的居民反應非常棒但是現在這個路基的部分就是有一期二期安坑特一號道路就是需要第三期過去大概七八十億\n現在恐怕要90億了但是第三期如果做好了對整個大台北華城對那邊學校康橋\n國際中小學以及附近所有的大型社區的交通幫助非常非常的需要所以在這裡拜託能大力支持安坑一號道路的第三期包括華城快速道路的興建報告員這個部分要請這個新北市政府用這個生活圈計畫的道路來申請補助\n那看是內政部或者是交通部我們兩個部會來協調看有誰來協助好 謝謝那我們就大力來推動另外還有一個就是安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道安城快速道路現在從安坑交流道到中和交流道就是北要高的部分\n常常堵車堵得非常的厲害時事物不到20公里如果在五城那個地方就安坑特業道路直接翻山越嶺穿過去就接到土城交流道非常的便捷那也需要在這裡拜託院長大力支持\n跟剛剛那條是一樣的,他可以透過這個生活圈計畫來中央申請補助因為他如果是都市計畫內就是有內政部,都市計畫外交通部在思考幹什麼樣協助那我們一起努力另外還有一個安坑輕軌可不可以串聯到規劃中的中和光復線因為安坑輕軌已經OK了,直接拉過去更方便\n好 謝謝羅明財委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.818 --> 00:16.281\n韓院長在座卓院長以及行政團隊各位委員大家午安韓院長可不可以請卓院長老闆再請卓院長備詢卓院長好我們看到國際的局勢\n\n00:30.712 --> 00:53.005\n變化萬千啦短短的一個月內台幣從新台幣33塊兌換1美元急升到接近快31塊今天今天已經破紀錄了一天就升值了快0.8角院長\n\n00:59.619 --> 01:26.659\n台幣一直升值已經快接近了楊金榮總裁的防線這個防線以及新台幣的強勢是不是受到了什麼樣的壓力為什麼會那麼急升這個對國內的一些企業以及像觀光客來台灣的情況會不會有什麼不同的影響\n\n01:28.043 --> 01:53.806\n日前楊總裁在答詢的過程當中也提到台灣長期來看是一個匯率穩定的國家我們也沒有強力的去操縱它就交由市場機制那目前我們也沒有受到任何的壓力對貨幣有任何升值的壓力但是還是取決於市場的機制但世界依照美元的走向美元比較疲軟\n\n01:54.670 --> 02:18.128\n各種匯率比較升值現在是這個趨勢這個趨勢反映出關稅貿易政策的調整過程當中各國都還在調適但是我知道我們這樣的升值對國內的產業以及出國產業會造成相當大的衝擊所以我們才提出了這個產業支持的方案我們希望從各方面來幫忙產業度過這次的衝擊那或許我們現在面臨的狀況\n\n02:22.233 --> 02:48.542\n有在我們的判斷當中但是他並沒有發生到現在我們不可控的狀況所以沒有來自美方的壓力楊總裁之前在這個地方已經正式的答覆我們沒有接到任何但是我是認為五會式的穩定是政府必該必應要有一番作為的所以我們對股市的穩定我們從四月初到現在有一套穩定的作為但會會會\n\n02:50.923 --> 03:14.060\n匯率到底是國際的情勢影響很大那我們現在是持續的觀察我剛剛說我們現在這個預期是有的但是沒有發生到我們現在不可控的狀況前幾天可能沒有可是今天這個市場狀況也沒有看到央行出手干預一天的時間台幣兌美元匯率漲了八角\n\n03:17.359 --> 03:37.668\n這個比率是非常的高從33塊到現在31塊大概沒有幾天的時間已經漲了快超過6%接近快10%台幣這樣再繼續走下有沒有可能升值到30塊台幣兌換1美元呢我們是在\n\n03:39.059 --> 03:58.317\n持續的關注這個狀況但是央行對匯率的掌握他並沒有用行政上去干預太多因為我們不是一個政治干預貨幣的一個國家我們還是認為這個市場機制但是政府的關心跟業界的問題要連結在一起這個是政府的責任主席不要忘記了\n\n03:59.378 --> 04:22.498\n我們的外匯存底裡面有92%大概4000多億的美元都是買美國公債相關的公債買了很多那萬一哪一天台幣又升值突破了27塊的話那我們相對的未實現的損失就會變很大很大\n\n04:23.677 --> 04:49.485\n我們有一些金融機構過去對於一些美債的一些購買目前正式遭受到剛剛委員所說的這個狀況長到這樣的一個結果我們也在做一些體質上的調整那國家更應該及早的因應我們除了央行的外匯存底買美債請問台灣的售險公司產險公司以及金融相關公司\n\n04:50.663 --> 04:55.154\n究竟買了多少的美國公債以及美國的公司債\n\n04:57.063 --> 05:22.275\n這些民營的機構民營的單位他們長期追求的是一個長期穩定的獲利所以購買各國比較安定的公債當然他們選項之一啦我想各國都會現在有一些基本上避險的思考那這個要一段時間慢慢來調適那這個要小心啦你現在一個籃子而已啊單一啊全部壓在美國壓在美金上面如果\n\n05:24.906 --> 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08:37.253\n那個請問一下五一勞動節的時候院長有沒有放假沒有沒有放假我們立委沒放假那變成說有七大行業有的要工作那問題都有小朋友啊可以說是天下大亂要接小孩的啦或者是不再要吃飯的通通是問題請問院長\n\n08:39.514 --> 09:02.499\n五一勞動節可不可以調整全國的一致的放假情況五一勞動節針對勞工朋友的放假我想這個是一個最高的尊敬對勞工朋友們那當然他沒有全國性的放假也行之多年我想家長以及各個單位在調適上也已經相當有經驗到未來我認為我們在國家生產力的結構\n\n09:04.639 --> 09:28.755\n檢討底下跟國家經濟成長的結構底下這個議題是可以討論的是可以討論的但是我也希望說勞資雙方要有和諧的討論基礎是我們希望多一點彈性不然這些爸爸媽媽接這個小朋友可以接得眼花繚亂接得頭非常的痛那另外再請教一下就是現在的官貿大戰的情況之下\n\n09:29.970 --> 09:58.511\n過去台灣因為說要加入WTO造成紅標米酒漲到一瓶180塊現在又是面臨關稅談判的時刻那如果照REN69標準來課稅的話會不會再一次的演變出台灣紅標米酒最必需的民生用品又開始飆漲所以早年的經驗告訴我們我們選擇用料理米酒的方式\n\n10:01.328 --> 10:19.966\n脫開這個所謂增六九的方式用每公升來計價跟增六九用每度來計價是不一樣的我們已經有這樣的經驗我想這個是現在現存的至少在這個基礎之上我們應該維持現在的機制紅標米酒不會漲價我們已經有料理米酒了所以不會漲價我認為在談判過程當中對方也應該顧及到我國消費市場的習慣\n\n10:26.052 --> 10:52.291\n謝謝多努力另外在這裡要拜託院長大力來支持深坑輕軌的推動因為喊了快15年了我們在地方不分藍綠從蘇貞昌蘇縣長到院長都說要大力支持現在的進度就是拜託交通部能大力支持\n\n10:53.206 --> 11:15.111\n可行性評估通過了以後後面才會有綜合規劃環境影響評估以及都市計畫變更等等的作業過去蓋一條深坑輕軌大概金額比較低一百多億現在聽說因為原物料又漲工又漲聽說金額要\n\n11:17.915 --> 11:39.306\n往上調那這一條深坑清軌我覺得深坑是台北市的後花園禮拜六禮拜天深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠拜託拜託周院長大力支持讓深坑清軌可以早日完工\n\n11:40.331 --> 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工又漲聽說金額要"},{"start":677.915,"end":699.306,"text":"往上調那這一條深坑清軌我覺得深坑是台北市的後花園禮拜六禮拜天深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠拜託拜託周院長大力支持讓深坑清軌可以早日完工"},{"start":700.331,"end":715.368,"text":"現在很多的重大的公共工程爆來的修正計畫都如委員所說的都是幾乎成加倍或者是50%、60%、70%這樣的幅度再加所以我說今天不做明天是做不下去的所以"},{"start":715.908,"end":739.321,"text":"但是深坑輕軌這個事情他現在原來的評估啦對他的自償率還不足的問題是列為一個參考評估的一個重點但是我認為國家的財政跟地方的發展我們對自償率應該有一個比較廣闊的開放態度如果國家財政不好當然我們希望這樣子如果國家財政好我們希望用交通帶動地方建設的這個觀念要把它轉化下去"},{"start":740.466,"end":760.432,"text":"其實很認同院長所講其實不用害怕因為捷運到哪裡其實都更就發展到哪裡就帶動起來而且深坑離101大概不用十幾分鐘的路程就可以到所以非常的近所以我把它定位為台北市的後花園"},{"start":761.312,"end":789.268,"text":"希望我們所有大台北所有的朋友如果要到後花園的時候輕軌一坐很方便在那邊環境又漂亮還有深坑的臭豆腐美食也都不錯還可以間接的帶動地方觀光的發展所以謝謝院長大力支持另外也拜託周院長可以大力來支持安坑的特異號道路第三期因為大家都知道有了"},{"start":790.748,"end":819.504,"text":"這個特一號道路一期以後所有的安坑的輕軌已經完工通車了本席多年的在這裡大力的爭取非常感謝行政院相關部門大力的支持已經通車了而且當地所有的居民反應非常棒但是現在這個路基的部分就是有一期二期安坑特一號道路就是需要第三期過去大概七八十億"},{"start":820.226,"end":829.765,"text":"現在恐怕要90億了但是第三期如果做好了對整個大台北華城對那邊學校康橋"},{"start":832.854,"end":859.104,"text":"國際中小學以及附近所有的大型社區的交通幫助非常非常的需要所以在這裡拜託能大力支持安坑一號道路的第三期包括華城快速道路的興建報告員這個部分要請這個新北市政府用這個生活圈計畫的道路來申請補助"},{"start":859.764,"end":882.359,"text":"那看是內政部或者是交通部我們兩個部會來協調看有誰來協助好 謝謝那我們就大力來推動另外還有一個就是安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道安城快速道路現在從安坑交流道到中和交流道就是北要高的部分"},{"start":883.482,"end":902.314,"text":"常常堵車堵得非常的厲害時事物不到20公里如果在五城那個地方就安坑特業道路直接翻山越嶺穿過去就接到土城交流道非常的便捷那也需要在這裡拜託院長大力支持"},{"start":906.381,"end":929.873,"text":"跟剛剛那條是一樣的,他可以透過這個生活圈計畫來中央申請補助因為他如果是都市計畫內就是有內政部,都市計畫外交通部在思考幹什麼樣協助那我們一起努力另外還有一個安坑輕軌可不可以串聯到規劃中的中和光復線因為安坑輕軌已經OK了,直接拉過去更方便"},{"start":939.889,"end":940.27,"text":"好 謝謝羅明財委員"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":269,"blocks":[["羅委員明才：（15時37分）韓院長、卓院長以及在座的行政團隊、各位委員，大家午安。韓院長，可不可以請卓院長？"],["主席：麻煩再請卓院長備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：羅委員好。"],["羅委員明才：卓院長好。我們看到國際的局勢變化萬千，短短的一個月內，新臺幣從33塊兌換1美元，急升到接近31塊，今天已經破紀錄了，一天就升值了快8角。院長，臺幣一直升值，已經快接近楊金龍總裁的防線，這個防線以及新臺幣的強勢，是不是受到了什麼樣的壓力？為什麼會那麼急升？這個對國內的一些企業，以及像觀光客來臺灣的情況，會不會有什麼不同的影響？"],["卓院長榮泰：日前楊總裁在答詢的過程當中也提到，臺灣長期來看，是一個匯率穩定的國家，我們也沒有強力的去操縱它，就交由市場機制。目前我們也沒有受到任何對貨幣升值的壓力，還是取決於市場的機制。但世界依照美元的走向，美元比較疲軟，各種匯率比較升值，現在是這個趨勢。現在的趨勢反映出關稅貿易政策的調整過程，各國都還在調適，但是我知道我們這樣的升值，對國內的產業以及出口產業會造成相當大的衝擊，所以我們才提出了產業支持的方案，我們希望從各方面幫忙產業度過這次的衝擊。我們現在面臨的狀況有在我們的判斷當中，它並沒有發生不可控的狀況。"],["羅委員明才：所以沒有來自美方的壓力？"],["卓院長榮泰：楊總裁日前在這個地方已經正式的答復，我們沒有接到，但是我認為股匯市的穩定是政府必定要有一番作為的，所以我們對股市的穩定從4月初到現在，有一套穩定的作為，但匯率到底是國際的情勢影響很大，我們現在是持續的觀察。我剛剛說現在這個預期是有的，但是沒有發生我們現在不可控的狀況。"],["羅委員明才：對，前幾天可能沒有，可是今天這個市場狀況也沒有看到央行出手干預啊！一天的時間，臺幣兌美元匯率漲了8角，這個……"],["卓院長榮泰：央行長期觀察……"],["羅委員明才：比率是非常的高啊！從33塊到現在31塊，大概沒有幾天的時間，已經漲了超過6%，接近10%，如果臺幣這樣繼續走，有沒有可能升值到30塊臺幣兌換1美元呢？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們是持續的在關注這個狀況，但是央行對匯率的掌握，並沒有用行政上去干預太多，因為我們不是一個政治干預貨幣的國家，我們還是任由市場機制，但是政府的關心跟業界的問題要連結在一起，這個是政府的責任。"],["羅委員明才：卓院長不要忘記了，我們的外匯存底裡面有92%、大概四千多億美元都是買美國公債……"],["卓院長榮泰：相關的……"],["羅委員明才：相關的公債買了很多，萬一哪一天臺幣又升值突破了27塊的話，那我們相對的未實現的損失，就會變很大很大。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們有一些金融機構過去對於一些美債的購買，目前就正是遭受到剛剛委員所說的這個狀況，嚐到這樣的結果，我們也在做一些體質上的調整，國家更應該及早的因應。"],["羅委員明才：我們除了央行的外匯存底買美債，請問臺灣的壽險公司、產險公司以及金融相關公司究竟買了多少的美國公債，以及美國的公司債？"],["卓院長榮泰：這些民營的機構、民營的單位，他們追求的是一個長期穩定的獲利，所以購買各國比較安定的公債當然是他們選項之一啦！我想各國現在都會有一些基本上避險的思考，這個要一段時間慢慢的調適。"],["羅委員明才：這個要小心啦！你現在一個籃子而已，單一，全部押在美國、押在美金上面，如果美元全世界的地位已經動搖了，甚至它如果大幅的貶值，為了讓美國再次偉大，那我們臺灣相關美元計價的資產，可能就會遭受很嚴重的損失喔！"],["卓院長榮泰：是，但是我相信任何一個國家對自己貨幣快速、短期間內大幅度的貶值，對這個國家的財政都不只一個單純的好處而已，它也會帶來很多的後遺症，所以我相信各國政府都應該有一套自己在避險，或是對於匯率安定的措施。"],["羅委員明才：日本廣場協議造成日本失落30年的殷鑒不遠，希望院長多多思考一下。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們很關切廣場協議之後造成日幣在國際市場上面的影響，但是目前來看，我們沒有感受到這樣直接的壓力給臺灣政府，或是世界上它都是一個普遍性的狀況，我們還在觀察它後續的發展。"],["羅委員明才：所以這個要多小心啦！因應國際局勢的變化，事實上本席跟前委員吳欣盈也提過應該要成立一個主權基金，帶領百工百業可以走向國際，因為「人是英雄錢是膽」啦！如果有主權基金出去，再配合我們一些企業，如高科技等等，到各國去談判、去發展、去做觀光也才會有利。所以主權基金現在推動的情況，不曉得院長大概進行到什麼地步？它的規模size大概會多少？"],["卓院長榮泰：過去我們當然是比較謹慎而保守啦，我認為現在國家的財力，我們產業的發展以及國際的局勢，臺灣應該能夠比較主動性的來討論這個話題，包括它將來一定要有個專法來管理，有一個專業管理單位的機制，甚至資金來源、資金規模都必須要在公開透明的機制裡面來運作才可以，目前我們在構想上和以前比較起來朝向採取主動、開放討論的方式，我認為它距離我們成立，除非我們要用一個很快、很大的力道讓它能夠成立一個專法，否則我們現在還在討論的過程當中。"],["羅委員明才：可以參考一下新加坡的主權基金……"],["卓院長榮泰：那是非常成功的例子。"],["羅委員明才：他們的淡馬錫還有新加坡的國家基金不到90天就成立了，我希望這個可以請院長幕僚再來研究一下。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，謝謝委員的建議。"],["羅委員明才：本席來自地方，有一些相關的議題要趕緊跟院長請教，請問一下，五一勞動節的時候，院長有沒有放假？"],["卓院長榮泰：沒有。"],["羅委員明才：沒有放假，我們立委也沒放假，有七大行業要工作，但問題大家都有小朋友啊，可以說是天下大亂，要接小孩的，或者是不在家、要吃飯的，通通都是問題。請問院長，五一勞動節可不可以調整為全國一致的放假情況？"],["卓院長榮泰：五一勞動節是針對勞工朋友的放假，我想這是對勞動朋友們最高的尊敬，它沒有全國性放假也行之多年，我想家長以及各個單位在調適上也已經相當有經驗，我認為未來我們在國家生產力結構的檢討跟國家經濟成長結構底下，這個議題是可以討論的。"],["羅委員明才：是。"],["卓院長榮泰：但我也希望勞資雙方要有和諧的討論基礎。"],["羅委員明才：是，我們希望多一點彈性，不然這些爸爸、媽媽接小朋友可以說是接得眼花撩亂，也接得頭非常的痛。","另外再請教一下，在現在關貿大戰的情況之下，過去臺灣因為要加入WTO而造成紅標米酒漲到一瓶180塊，現在又是面臨關稅談判的時刻，如果照蒸餾酒標準來課稅的話，會不會再一次演變出臺灣最必需的民生用品──紅標米酒又開始飆漲？"],["卓院長榮泰：早年的經驗告訴我們，我們選擇用料理米酒的方式，跳脫蒸餾酒的方式，用每公升來計價，跟蒸餾酒用每度計價是不一樣的，我們已經有這樣的經驗，我想這個是現在現存的，至少在這個基礎之上，我們應該維持現在的機制。"],["羅委員明才：所以紅標米酒不會漲價？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們已經有料理米酒了。"],["羅委員明才：所以不會漲價？"],["卓院長榮泰：我認為在談判過程當中，對方也應該顧及到我國消費市場的習慣。"],["羅委員明才：好，謝謝，多努力。","另外，在這裡要拜託院長大力支持深坑輕軌的推動，已經喊了快15年了，我們在地方不分藍綠，從蘇貞昌蘇縣長到院長都說要大力支持，現在的進度就是拜託交通部能大力支持，可行性評估通過了以後，後面才會有綜合規劃、環境影響評估以及都市計畫變更等等作業。過去蓋一條深坑輕軌的金額比較低，大概一百多億，現在聽說原物料又漲、工又漲，也聽說金額要往上調。對於這一條深坑輕軌，我覺得深坑是臺北市的後花園，禮拜六、禮拜天的深坑老街可以說是人潮擁擠，拜託、拜託！請卓院長大力支持，讓深坑輕軌可以早日完工。"],["卓院長榮泰：現在很多重大公共工程報來的修正計畫都如委員所說的，幾乎都是呈加倍或者是50%、60%、70%這樣的幅度在增加，所以我說今天不做，明天是做不下去的。"],["羅委員明才：真的。"],["卓院長榮泰：但是深坑輕軌這個事情，原來評估有自償率還不足的問題，這是列為參考評估的重點，我認為在國家財政跟地方發展之下，我們對自償率應該要有一個比較廣闊及開放態度，如果國家財政不好，當然我們希望這樣子，如果國家財政好，我們希望用交通帶動地方建設的觀念把它轉化下去。"],["羅委員明才：是，很認同院長所講的，其實不用害怕，因為捷運到哪裡，都更就發展到哪裡，就會帶動起來。深坑離臺北101大概不到十幾分鐘路程就可以到，非常近，所以我把深坑定位為臺北市的後花園，希望所有大臺北的朋友可以到後花園來玩，輕軌一坐很方便，環境漂亮，深坑的臭豆腐、美食都不錯，可以間接帶動地方觀光發展。所以謝謝院長大力支持！","另外，我也要拜託院長可以大力支持安坑一號道路第三期。大家都知道，在一號道路第一期工程之後，安坑輕軌也已經完工通車。多年來本席在這裡大力爭取，非常感謝行政院相關部門的大力支持，現在已經通車了，當地居民反應非常棒。由於現在路基已經有第一期和第二期，所以安坑一號道路需要第三期。過去大概需要七、八十億經費，現在恐怕要九十億了。但第三期如果做好了，對整個大臺北華城、康橋國際中小學以及附近所有大型社區的交通幫助非常非常重要，所以我在這裡拜託院長能大力支持安坑一號道路第三期，華城快速道路的興建。"],["卓院長榮泰：請部長說明。"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，這部分要請新北市政府以生活圈計畫道路來申請補助，再由內政部、交通部兩個部會來協調，看由誰來協助。"],["羅委員明才：好，謝謝，我們就大力來推動！","還有就是安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道，即安城快速道路的問題，現在從安坑交流道到中和交流道，就是北二高這段常常堵車堵得非常厲害，時速不到20公里。如果在五城，也就是安坑一號道路直接翻山越嶺穿過去接土城交流道的話，將會非常便捷，我在這裡拜託、也需要院長大力支持。"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，一樣，跟剛剛那一條是一樣的，可以透過生活圈計畫道路向中央申請補助。若是在都市計畫內就是內政部補助；都市計畫外的話，那麼交通部再來思考看怎麼協助。"],["羅委員明才：我們一起努力。再來，安坑輕軌可不可以串聯到規劃中的中和光復線？因為安坑輕軌已經OK了，所以直接拉過去更方便、更安全、更便捷。"],["卓院長榮泰：是不是我們再來做整體規劃？屆時再向委員請教，也請委員多給我們一些意見。"],["羅委員明才：好，謝謝。"],["委員羅明才書面補充資料：","1.請問院長，昨天是五一勞動節，您有放假嗎？","現在五一勞動節是「差別式放假」，除了軍公教，還有7大類行業的工作者不受《勞動基準法》規範，五一勞動節必須正常上班\n。這其實相當擾民，許多教師因為找不到人帶孩子，不得不請自己的假；勞工父母的小孩不能放假，要上學，形成「一家兩制」，而且小孩的上下課還必須由勞工父母接送，形同在懲罰勞動家庭的父母，不能在勞動節當天安心去慶祝，與自己的小孩共享天倫之樂；又或家長想要帶小孩出去玩，就必須向學校請假，影響孩子的學習。請問院長可以承諾明年五一勞動節全國一致性放假嗎？","2.請問院長，臺灣的料理米酒會不會變成一瓶180元？","臺美關稅談判可能觸及非關稅壁壘，財政部表示，除了汽車貨物稅，美方也關切米酒稅率，請問這個部分會不會拿來當作談判的籌碼？1998年臺灣加入WTO，就被要求米酒依照蒸餾酒標準課稅，導致紅標米酒價格飆漲，當年本席透過修法改成「料理米酒」才壓下價格，現在一瓶27元，請問院長現在歷史會不會重演，料理米酒接下來會漲到一瓶180元嗎？美國的廠商基本上不太生產這種料理酒，關稅談判時要讓美方瞭解臺灣稅制上的特殊狀況，不能衝擊民生，引發民怨。","3.請院長大力支持盡速興建深坑輕軌","深坑現在最重要的是軌道建設，深坑輕軌（經費202.71億元）的可行性研究，新北市政府預計這個月再次發文提報交通部轉行政院審議。可行性研究獲行政院核定後，才能接續辦理綜合規劃、環境影響評估及都市計畫變更作業，預計核定後7年完工，所以不要再卡進度了！本席懇請院長和部長大力支持，盡速審議通過深坑輕軌的可行性研究，深坑輕軌才能早日實現，造福地方！","4.請院長支持安坑一號道路第三期（華城快速道路）","新店安坑地區需要更活絡的交通路線，華城快速道路對華城路上的居民來說有迫切的需要，將更能連結安坑多個大型社區，疏導安康路一段過載的交通量，直接通往北二高，有效紓緩華城路口上下班的壅塞，而且還可以連結灣潭重劃區，將使碧潭對岸的交通更為便利。新北市政府初估預算費用約90億元，本席懇請中央給予補助，支持地方，造福鄉親。","5.請院長支持安坑一號道路延伸至土城交流道（安城快速道路）","北二高新店、安坑交流道至中和交流道長期壅塞，車速往往只有2、30公里，如果從新店安坑五城至北二高土城交流道新闢一條「安城快速道路」，將能有效紓解此段壅塞情形，而且還可以進一步促進安坑五城地區的開發。新北市政府評估此段路線建設經費超過百億，本席懇請中央（交通部公路局及內政部國土署）給予支持、補助，促進地方交通發展。","6.請院長支持安坑輕軌串聯規劃中的捷運「中和光復線」","安坑輕軌2023年2月10日正式通車，開始收費後運量始終低迷，目前日平均運量僅5千餘人次。搭乘安坑輕軌通勤進入台北市，至少需要轉乘2次，再加上候車時間，相當耗時，比騎車、開車都還要久。如果安坑輕軌可以串聯規劃中的捷運「中和光復線」，將能減少轉乘次數和時間，有效提升運量：","(1)新和國小站至秀朗橋站間尚未開發，適合安坑輕軌在此由高架轉入地下，將不影響中和光復線預計採用的地下形式。","(2)輕軌車站具有量體小的優點，能夠減輕車站開挖負擔，節省中和光復線的興建成本。","(3)安坑輕軌所使用的機廠先前曾縮減用地，也就代表仍有空間可以擴建，容納未來中和光復線的新增列車。","7.請問院長AI自駕車哪時候可以在臺灣上路？","請問院長有看過1980年代美劇〈霹靂遊俠〉（Knight 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