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00:02:10,110\n我們的內閣要換成戰鬥內閣要找會有論事的官員準備為大罷免啟動那大內閣會不會換你的覺得前面這一段我們的內閣是在每個自己的工作崗位上\n\n7\n00:02:11,109 --> 00:02:37,308\n去做競爭的你現在的內閣叫做什麼內閣告訴我才曉得行動創新內閣我們是以行動來現在以後戰鬥內閣跟你現在的內閣有什麼差別哪一個跟你現在的內閣未來報紙在寫說你們要組成戰鬥內閣準備要大連案好好的執政黨要發威一下要把在野黨的國會議員全部殲滅掉\n\n8\n00:02:40,438 --> 00:02:41,764\n我告訴你一件事我也覺得很奇怪\n\n9\n00:02:44,113 --> 00:03:12,671\n在這裡面有幾個七十歲以上的國會的立法委員身兼百戰每一個人都當過六七八屆的一個立法委員我們吃小麥今天要拔麵你們拔麵就要硬到這樣嘛所以我說你們真的要檢討一下要怎麼做前幾個一年新的才有這麼多新的一年沒有必要做協調溝通很重要\n\n10\n00:03:13,744 --> 00:03:40,825\n針對每一位委員經由選舉而且是憲法賦予的權利行政院當然尊重所以我是希望說我們在這裡行政院的業務跟這裡大選從來不涉及所謂罷免的議題你是尊重也沒有中立的立場你還上台去演講講的是中央政府總預算跟關稅的問題台灣啊這樣很亂我要回到主題好不好今天的交通執行我們的陳部長麻煩你也來一下\n\n11\n00:03:42,246 --> 00:03:50,929\n我第一個我說苗栗的牧利值得中央支持我很常常要講這個問題我們95年到112年苗栗為中央竄稅4147億中央給我們補資才2022億我們苗栗縣倒貼給中央是2125億\n\n12\n00:04:07,884 --> 00:04:18,008\n加育縣跟屏東縣都是三級縣市的財政他們95年加育縣963億中央補賦給他2430億他們給他一村西班牙才幾億屏東縣2627億交給中央中央補賦給他3589億他們可以\n\n13\n00:04:33,353 --> 00:04:41,699\n我每次都在這個執行台都拜託院長、部長我們的交通建設要好好給我們加油下去我們是邊緣網這時候是母女的孩子沒有糖吃所以我特別跟你拜託\n\n14\n00:04:55,438 --> 00:05:12,685\n我今天不管財政收支發昏了未來怎麼做但是我把苗栗的實況給你苗栗的負債五百億這邊你再分一下兩千多億都沒有負債我們有努力有為地方建設地方繁榮發財稅收一直在增加\n\n15\n00:05:16,587 --> 00:05:25,879\n你的回饋反而越低啊這個太不公平了不管未來怎麼樣我仍然希望左院長你繼續留任多多照顧苗玉仙\n\n16\n00:05:27,315 --> 00:05:47,351\n第二個問題我用大西谷計畫我希望行政院要出來協調因為我們有兩個科學園區一個產業園區但是我們兩個科學園區大概開發出來有350公頃可用之地但是國科會只要用150公頃但是這200公頃\n\n17\n00:05:50,973 --> 00:06:13,844\n國科會說這個開挖不是我認的國化會是上級指導的單位我說這個拜託今天國民司長也沒有來他當過國民司長在你坐在那裡我沒注意看到你現在當民司長說你幫我協調一下你授權給他協調一下好不好院長\n\n18\n00:06:15,492 --> 00:06:21,215\n不過我不知道要怎麼來開發,要怎麼來經營這對我們苗栗縣未來的發展太重要了\n\n19\n00:06:22,403 --> 00:06:50,435\n我今天來講是拜託你我們的港執委泰內行國民司長所有人來幫我協調這件事情好不好跟委員報告兩件事第一個行政院對苗栗不是善意是應該有的基本態度我們希望均衡地方大家都同樣的起來所以在我設想的這個財政收支方法如果照行政院的構想會讓財政弱的向縣市得到更多而不是向現在齊頭市的第二件\n\n20\n00:06:51,535 --> 00:07:10,988\n這個桃竹苗大細股可以說是在520之後行政院第一個核定的六大產業生活區所以我們會照這個速度來持續的往前推進速度我沒有主管機關啦我事情不會做的啦所以我特別請國民市長來幫我們協調一下如果是六大區域這個產業生活區的話它的規劃機關是國發會這樣啦但落到目的世界主管機關它就會不一樣\n\n21\n00:07:15,191 --> 00:07:43,505\n我很謝謝你重大計畫由你手裡合整但是我苗栗縣碰到困難我只拜託國民司長來協調國科會省政府會跟苗栗縣政府各個部位來協調誰當主管機關我才有辦法拖重大西部計畫完成賴總統及你們合定左院長你合定好不好阿卓那個國民司長你們覺得要求求啊\n\n22\n00:07:44,945 --> 00:07:55,110\n議長說好要幫我辦一下跟他們合謀一下好不好再來我們交通部的陳部長你從市議員直升到交通部長我走一下\n\n23\n00:07:56,311 --> 00:08:22,826\n我當時還以為不怎麼樣但是你到苗栗會刊的時候我發覺你回答任何問題非常成本非常實在很值得肯定我相信你經過歷練了以後你將來必有大用的但是你竟然會刊你都答應了你要把它做出來看你信用不信用就看在這裡就是\n\n24\n00:08:24,498 --> 00:08:40,246\n黃磊交流道你說要核定這個拜託我就不再多講了我希望能把這幾個重大的建設推動完成我就可以功成身退我就功德圓滿我不曉得要用哪一個這個你不答應喔第二個\n\n25\n00:08:43,388 --> 00:09:12,498\n西吳溪的合體公共西吳鄉只有五千多人最近兩年前才有一個那個7-11才在那邊開他要發展我已經推動三期的合體公共第四期的合體公共現在在可行性評估好啊拜託一度你說你很照顧苗栗關心苗栗我也謝謝你你下來我請你吃客家菜這條板他完成\n\n26\n00:09:12,918 --> 00:09:32,346\n照顧邊鄉的地區好不好再來西吳鄉為什麼選票雖然很少但是這個地方沒有發展我覺得我要改進這個地方環境就是西吳區人外道路安城北日南村便利遊客與鄉親這個屬於高工級的\n\n27\n00:09:35,083 --> 00:09:45,193\n那高工期裡面我希望特別注意我相信現在用很多工法可以把地方改變出來當然有少許阻力你一站不動\n\n28\n00:09:47,271 --> 00:10:10,557\n你未來是很前途的,我來講這個好要幫忙完成再來我講得很快,因為再來後龍好望角那天你會館沒有到現場但是當地的鄉鎮長、議員、代表、里長一直拜託你好望角這個觀光風景區非常的漂亮、非常的好\n\n29\n00:10:12,298 --> 00:10:36,652\n這兩條馬路一開跟廣天宮是結合在一起這兩個距離走路的話不到30分鐘可以增加很多遊覽的人口卓院長你那麼忙你還沒到苗栗我記得一次下次來多停留一下來看這個美好的地方你看完說不一定你不想當行政院長也不一定我請部長跟委員我們來規劃好不好再來\n\n30\n00:10:42,247 --> 00:10:55,926\n就是台13線銅鑼鄉到山陸火車站拓寬解開地方交通瓶檢台13線唯一沒有失線道只有這一段但是到四期裡面我們曉得會遇到很多指令\n\n31\n00:10:57,250 --> 00:11:24,738\n我們陳部長說答應人家協志承諾也要馬上進行這個一定要把它完成那裡面那一段我不勉強因為在市區裡面你再偷翻那裏的兵越來越多我再跟他們討論一個辦法出來好不好左院長這樣給你一個印象你知道說要怎麼做的事情這幾天起來是很重要的我不隨便提問題但是我提問題是直接進入核心再來\n\n32\n00:11:25,734 --> 00:11:30,306\n通宵產業生命之路通宵正直通銅鑼科學人群這兩個鄉鎮\n\n33\n00:11:33,184 --> 00:12:01,427\n是隔壘的那銅鑼現在一直在發展它隔壁的通宵輪口一直在流失如果能開一條道路從銅鑼科學園區接鄰的通宵鎮我相信對通宵鎮的就業繁榮、地方發展非常重要這條你不去看我會再排一次左院長有興趣到苗栗你們都來把這道路一開\n\n34\n00:12:02,648 --> 00:12:22,199\n你們的票數越多我的票數也應該不會少我們兩個共盟齊力因為這個是你們的地盤不是我的地盤好不好這條很重要你可能看出來寫出來你覺得說這個好像很簡單其實每一條都是有它的功用存在\n\n35\n00:12:24,073 --> 00:12:43,673\n再來這個Railbike三立的話現在是台灣最紅了國際遊覽客很多張詩是不同意報告院長是我找鐵路局去協調工夫還有觀光局協調溝通把它完成下來不曉得喔人山人海\n\n36\n00:12:44,714 --> 00:13:08,646\n人潮非常多,我們希望能跟台中不要為了選舉這樣,地方這樣結合起來,這樣變得有難。你只要完成,說是卓院長的時代完成了,陳部長你的時代完成了,你只要談出來,不要去計較地方各種,他做還是我做的,誰做都一樣,我永遠都保持這樣的心。\n\n37\n00:13:09,947 --> 00:13:33,247\n所以這一條連接到台中、台安到台中尤其陳部長你帶上人,你這個把客戶下來不要分黨派,也沒有誰做的那一段真的非常漂亮,左院長你去走一趟你會喜歡苗栗,你會幫忙苗栗好不好好,再來\n\n38\n00:13:35,202 --> 00:14:02,876\n台61縣縣港服務區中央地方共同民旅這是在西濱台61縣一個非常漂亮的地方我爭取了同意了以後但是到現在在推展容纏有困難那裡的漁港陳部長你是在雞皮疙瘩你很了解這裡這個你下來來看一下給他這個人潮這個漁港都很漂亮都很好\n\n39\n00:14:04,162 --> 00:14:30,992\n真的都是很漂亮你一來看你大概曉得因為時間的關係我大概就這樣再來最美服務機日落大道那個報告院長部長那個整台寫兵你看到海景的時候你不小心就會發生錯誤太漂亮了但是這個所在面積太小應該在空中擴大範圍在西濱快速道路\n\n40\n00:14:31,952 --> 00:14:45,988\n在白沙屯的隔壁新埔的地方非常漂亮看到好尤其在落日大灶他今天的那個太陽沒有照那個夕陽西下沒有照出來很漂亮很多人在那一邊\n\n41\n00:14:47,476 --> 00:15:12,342\n這個我麻煩土地的問題偶爾會請苗栗縣政府去解決你將會有補助給我們補助者會變成吸收景觀非常很多人在那邊再來做觀光休閒好不好那我講在條幅講到盡頭希望苗栗縣未來不僅保持原來的傳統的智慧農業還有客鄉的文化我們更希望朝科技層整個\n\n42\n00:15:14,008 --> 00:15:33,198\n大溪谷的整體建設來共同發展所以我這件事要再感謝你再說大溪谷計畫裡面自然後融有一個產業科技研究再來的統銷再來的萬利你記得你們執政黨在這海信的選票永遠是高知的\n\n43\n00:15:45,489 --> 00:15:45,751\n好,謝謝陳委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n11993\t17414\t首先有請卓院長卓院長早 卓院長好4月25日經濟指導總執行\n38959\t45795\t我有問你,偷中日美,你講要面向平壤,要背對著台灣海峽,\n47475\t76057\t要告訴中國政府我們不走回頭路我們不走冤枉路我們不走臭的路再來你說要把台北城當為首都那時你回答不置可恍我再請教一下這個是不是要準備台灣獨立的一個宣告尤其從你昨天早上講出來的顯示特別重要你是不是在鋪陳這個\n77861\t81993\t台北當然是中華民國台灣的首都這個沒有錯第二點我們的市場\n86721\t111302\t看中國看太久我們必須轉向面向海洋走向世界你等於意思要跟中國所有的包括經濟交流要斷絕來往的意思在我們的經濟要走向全世界不能太依賴一個國家這裡面牽涉到我第二個問題也比較現代化的問題今天有很多報紙說賴總統五二年就職一週年\n112463\t130110\t我們的內閣要換成戰鬥內閣要找會有論事的官員準備為大罷免啟動那大內閣會不會換你的覺得前面這一段我們的內閣是在每個自己的工作崗位上\n131109\t157308\t去做競爭的你現在的內閣叫做什麼內閣告訴我才曉得行動創新內閣我們是以行動來現在以後戰鬥內閣跟你現在的內閣有什麼差別哪一個跟你現在的內閣未來報紙在寫說你們要組成戰鬥內閣準備要大連案好好的執政黨要發威一下要把在野黨的國會議員全部殲滅掉\n160438\t161764\t我告訴你一件事 我也覺得很奇怪\n164113\t192671\t在這裡面有幾個七十歲以上的國會的立法委員身兼百戰每一個人都當過六七八屆的一個立法委員我們吃小麥 今天要拔麵你們拔麵就要硬到這樣嘛所以我說你們真的要檢討一下要怎麼做前幾個一年 新的才有這麼多新的一年沒有必要做 協調溝通很重要\n193744\t220825\t針對每一位委員經由選舉而且是憲法賦予的權利行政院當然尊重所以我是希望說我們在這裡行政院的業務跟這裡大選從來不涉及所謂罷免的議題你是尊重也沒有中立的立場你還上台去演講講的是中央政府總預算跟關稅的問題台灣啊這樣很亂我要回到主題好不好今天的交通執行我們的陳部長麻煩你也來一下\n222246\t230929\t我第一個 我說苗栗的牧利值得中央支持 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重大計畫由你手裡合整但是我苗栗縣碰到困難我只拜託國民司長來協調國科會 省政府會跟苗栗縣政府各個部位來協調誰當主管機關我才有辦法拖重大西部計畫完成賴總統及你們合定左院長你合定好不好阿卓 那個國民司長你們覺得要求求啊\n464945\t475110\t議長說好 要幫我辦一下 跟他們合謀一下好不好再來我們交通部的陳部長你從市議員直升到交通部長 我走一下\n476311\t502826\t我當時還以為不怎麼樣但是你到苗栗會刊的時候我發覺你回答任何問題非常成本非常實在很值得肯定我相信你經過歷練了以後你將來必有大用的但是你竟然會刊你都答應了你要把它做出來看你信用不信用就看在這裡就是\n504498\t520246\t黃磊交流道你說要核定這個拜託我就不再多講了我希望能把這幾個重大的建設推動完成我就可以功成身退我就功德圓滿我不曉得要用哪一個這個你不答應喔第二個\n523388\t552498\t西吳溪的合體公共西吳鄉只有五千多人最近兩年前才有一個那個7-11才在那邊開他要發展我已經推動三期的合體公共第四期的合體公共現在在可行性評估 好啊拜託一度你說你很照顧苗栗 關心苗栗我也謝謝你你下來我請你吃客家菜這條板他完成\n552918\t572346\t照顧邊鄉的地區好不好再來西吳鄉為什麼選票雖然很少但是這個地方沒有發展我覺得我要改進這個地方環境就是西吳區人外道路安城北日南村便利遊客與鄉親這個屬於高工級的\n575083\t585193\t那高工期裡面我希望特別注意我相信現在用很多工法可以把地方改變出來當然有少許阻力你一站不動\n587271\t610557\t你未來是很前途的,我來講這個好要幫忙完成再來我講得很快,因為再來後龍好望角那天你會館沒有到現場但是當地的鄉鎮長、議員、代表、里長一直拜託你好望角這個觀光風景區非常的漂亮、非常的好\n612298\t636652\t這兩條馬路一開跟廣天宮是結合在一起這兩個距離走路的話不到30分鐘可以增加很多遊覽的人口卓院長你那麼忙你還沒到苗栗我記得一次下次來多停留一下來看這個美好的地方你看完說不一定你不想當行政院長也不一定我請部長跟委員我們來規劃好不好再來\n642247\t655926\t就是台13線銅鑼鄉到山陸火車站拓寬解開地方交通瓶檢台13線唯一沒有失線道只有這一段但是到四期裡面我們曉得會遇到很多指令\n657250\t684738\t我們陳部長說答應人家協志承諾也要馬上進行這個一定要把它完成那裡面那一段我不勉強因為在市區裡面你再偷翻那裏的兵越來越多我再跟他們討論一個辦法出來好不好左院長這樣給你一個印象你知道說要怎麼做的事情這幾天起來是很重要的我不隨便提問題但是我提問題是直接進入核心再來\n685734\t690306\t通宵產業生命之路通宵正直通銅鑼科學人群這兩個鄉鎮\n693184\t721427\t是隔壘的那銅鑼現在一直在發展它隔壁的通宵輪口一直在流失如果能開一條道路從銅鑼科學園區接鄰的通宵鎮我相信對通宵鎮的就業繁榮、地方發展非常重要這條你不去看我會再排一次左院長有興趣到苗栗你們都來把這道路一開\n722648\t742199\t你們的票數越多我的票數也應該不會少我們兩個共盟齊力因為這個是你們的地盤不是我的地盤好不好這條很重要你可能看出來寫出來你覺得說這個好像很簡單其實每一條都是有它的功用存在\n744073\t763673\t再來這個Railbike 三立的話 現在是台灣最紅了 國際遊覽客很多張詩是不同意 報告院長 是我找鐵路局去協調工夫還有觀光局協調溝通 把它完成下來 不曉得 喔 人山人海\n764714\t788646\t人潮非常多,我們希望能跟台中不要為了選舉這樣,地方這樣結合起來,這樣變得有難。你只要完成,說是卓院長的時代完成了,陳部長你的時代完成了,你只要談出來,不要去計較地方各種,他做還是我做的,誰做都一樣,我永遠都保持這樣的心。\n789947\t813247\t所以這一條連接到台中、台安到台中尤其陳部長你帶上人,你這個把客戶下來不要分黨派,也沒有誰做的那一段真的非常漂亮,左院長你去走一趟你會喜歡苗栗,你會幫忙苗栗好不好好,再來\n815202\t842876\t台61縣縣港服務區中央地方共同民旅這是在西濱台61縣一個非常漂亮的地方我爭取了同意了以後但是到現在在推展容纏有困難那裡的漁港陳部長你是在雞皮疙瘩你很了解這裡這個你下來來看一下給他這個人潮這個漁港都很漂亮都很好\n844162\t870992\t真的都是很漂亮你一來看你大概曉得因為時間的關係我大概就這樣再來最美服務機日落大道那個報告院長 部長那個整台寫兵你看到海景的時候你不小心就會發生錯誤太漂亮了但是這個所在面積太小應該在空中擴大範圍在西濱快速道路\n871952\t885988\t在白沙屯的隔壁新埔的地方非常漂亮看到好尤其在落日大灶他今天的那個太陽沒有照那個夕陽西下沒有照出來很漂亮很多人在那一邊\n887476\t912342\t這個我麻煩土地的問題偶爾會請苗栗縣政府去解決你將會有補助給我們補助者會變成吸收景觀非常很多人在那邊再來做觀光休閒好不好那我講在條幅講到盡頭希望苗栗縣未來不僅保持原來的傳統的智慧農業還有客鄉的文化我們更希望朝科技層整個\n914008\t933198\t大溪谷的整體建設來共同發展所以我這件事要再感謝你再說大溪谷計畫裡面自然後融有一個產業科技研究再來的統銷 再來的萬利你記得你們執政黨在這海信的選票永遠是高知的\n945489\t945751\t好,謝謝陳委員\n","txt":"首先有請卓院長卓院長早 卓院長好4月25日經濟指導總執行\n我有問你,偷中日美,你講要面向平壤,要背對著台灣海峽,\n要告訴中國政府我們不走回頭路我們不走冤枉路我們不走臭的路再來你說要把台北城當為首都那時你回答不置可恍我再請教一下這個是不是要準備台灣獨立的一個宣告尤其從你昨天早上講出來的顯示特別重要你是不是在鋪陳這個\n台北當然是中華民國台灣的首都這個沒有錯第二點我們的市場\n看中國看太久我們必須轉向面向海洋走向世界你等於意思要跟中國所有的包括經濟交流要斷絕來往的意思在我們的經濟要走向全世界不能太依賴一個國家這裡面牽涉到我第二個問題也比較現代化的問題今天有很多報紙說賴總統五二年就職一週年\n我們的內閣要換成戰鬥內閣要找會有論事的官員準備為大罷免啟動那大內閣會不會換你的覺得前面這一段我們的內閣是在每個自己的工作崗位上\n去做競爭的你現在的內閣叫做什麼內閣告訴我才曉得行動創新內閣我們是以行動來現在以後戰鬥內閣跟你現在的內閣有什麼差別哪一個跟你現在的內閣未來報紙在寫說你們要組成戰鬥內閣準備要大連案好好的執政黨要發威一下要把在野黨的國會議員全部殲滅掉\n我告訴你一件事 我也覺得很奇怪\n在這裡面有幾個七十歲以上的國會的立法委員身兼百戰每一個人都當過六七八屆的一個立法委員我們吃小麥 今天要拔麵你們拔麵就要硬到這樣嘛所以我說你們真的要檢討一下要怎麼做前幾個一年 新的才有這麼多新的一年沒有必要做 協調溝通很重要\n針對每一位委員經由選舉而且是憲法賦予的權利行政院當然尊重所以我是希望說我們在這裡行政院的業務跟這裡大選從來不涉及所謂罷免的議題你是尊重也沒有中立的立場你還上台去演講講的是中央政府總預算跟關稅的問題台灣啊這樣很亂我要回到主題好不好今天的交通執行我們的陳部長麻煩你也來一下\n我第一個 我說苗栗的牧利值得中央支持 我很常常要講這個問題我們95年到112年苗栗為中央竄稅4147億中央給我們補資才2022億我們苗栗縣倒貼給中央是2125億\n加育縣跟屏東縣都是三級縣市的財政他們95年加育縣963億中央補賦給他2430億他們給他一村西班牙才幾億屏東縣2627億交給中央中央補賦給他3589億他們可以\n我每次都在這個執行台都拜託院長、部長我們的交通建設要好好給我們加油下去我們是邊緣網這時候是母女的孩子沒有糖吃所以我特別跟你拜託\n我今天不管財政收支發昏了未來怎麼做但是我把苗栗的實況給你苗栗的負債五百億這邊你再分一下兩千多億都沒有負債我們有努力有為地方建設地方繁榮發財稅收一直在增加\n你的回饋反而越低啊這個太不公平了不管未來怎麼樣我仍然希望左院長你繼續留任多多照顧苗玉仙\n第二個問題我用大西谷計畫我希望行政院要出來協調因為我們有兩個科學園區一個產業園區但是我們兩個科學園區大概開發出來有350公頃可用之地但是國科會只要用150公頃但是這200公頃\n國科會說這個開挖不是我認的國化會是上級指導的單位我說這個拜託今天國民司長也沒有來他當過國民司長在你坐在那裡我沒注意看到你現在當民司長說你幫我協調一下你授權給他協調一下好不好院長\n不過我不知道要怎麼來開發,要怎麼來經營這對我們苗栗縣未來的發展太重要了\n我今天來講是 拜託你我們的港執委 泰內行 國民司長所有人來幫我協調這件事情好不好跟委員報告兩件事第一個 行政院對苗栗不是善意是應該有的基本態度我們希望均衡地方 大家都同樣的起來所以 在我設想的這個財政收支方法如果照行政院的構想會讓財政弱的向縣市得到更多而不是向現在齊頭市的第二件\n這個桃竹苗大細股可以說是在520之後行政院第一個核定的六大產業生活區所以我們會照這個速度來持續的往前推進速度我沒有主管機關啦我事情不會做的啦所以我特別請國民市長來幫我們協調一下如果是六大區域這個產業生活區的話它的規劃機關是國發會這樣啦但落到目的世界主管機關它就會不一樣\n我很謝謝你 重大計畫由你手裡合整但是我苗栗縣碰到困難我只拜託國民司長來協調國科會 省政府會跟苗栗縣政府各個部位來協調誰當主管機關我才有辦法拖重大西部計畫完成賴總統及你們合定左院長你合定好不好阿卓 那個國民司長你們覺得要求求啊\n議長說好 要幫我辦一下 跟他們合謀一下好不好再來我們交通部的陳部長你從市議員直升到交通部長 我走一下\n我當時還以為不怎麼樣但是你到苗栗會刊的時候我發覺你回答任何問題非常成本非常實在很值得肯定我相信你經過歷練了以後你將來必有大用的但是你竟然會刊你都答應了你要把它做出來看你信用不信用就看在這裡就是\n黃磊交流道你說要核定這個拜託我就不再多講了我希望能把這幾個重大的建設推動完成我就可以功成身退我就功德圓滿我不曉得要用哪一個這個你不答應喔第二個\n西吳溪的合體公共西吳鄉只有五千多人最近兩年前才有一個那個7-11才在那邊開他要發展我已經推動三期的合體公共第四期的合體公共現在在可行性評估 好啊拜託一度你說你很照顧苗栗 關心苗栗我也謝謝你你下來我請你吃客家菜這條板他完成\n照顧邊鄉的地區好不好再來西吳鄉為什麼選票雖然很少但是這個地方沒有發展我覺得我要改進這個地方環境就是西吳區人外道路安城北日南村便利遊客與鄉親這個屬於高工級的\n那高工期裡面我希望特別注意我相信現在用很多工法可以把地方改變出來當然有少許阻力你一站不動\n你未來是很前途的,我來講這個好要幫忙完成再來我講得很快,因為再來後龍好望角那天你會館沒有到現場但是當地的鄉鎮長、議員、代表、里長一直拜託你好望角這個觀光風景區非常的漂亮、非常的好\n這兩條馬路一開跟廣天宮是結合在一起這兩個距離走路的話不到30分鐘可以增加很多遊覽的人口卓院長你那麼忙你還沒到苗栗我記得一次下次來多停留一下來看這個美好的地方你看完說不一定你不想當行政院長也不一定我請部長跟委員我們來規劃好不好再來\n就是台13線銅鑼鄉到山陸火車站拓寬解開地方交通瓶檢台13線唯一沒有失線道只有這一段但是到四期裡面我們曉得會遇到很多指令\n我們陳部長說答應人家協志承諾也要馬上進行這個一定要把它完成那裡面那一段我不勉強因為在市區裡面你再偷翻那裏的兵越來越多我再跟他們討論一個辦法出來好不好左院長這樣給你一個印象你知道說要怎麼做的事情這幾天起來是很重要的我不隨便提問題但是我提問題是直接進入核心再來\n通宵產業生命之路通宵正直通銅鑼科學人群這兩個鄉鎮\n是隔壘的那銅鑼現在一直在發展它隔壁的通宵輪口一直在流失如果能開一條道路從銅鑼科學園區接鄰的通宵鎮我相信對通宵鎮的就業繁榮、地方發展非常重要這條你不去看我會再排一次左院長有興趣到苗栗你們都來把這道路一開\n你們的票數越多我的票數也應該不會少我們兩個共盟齊力因為這個是你們的地盤不是我的地盤好不好這條很重要你可能看出來寫出來你覺得說這個好像很簡單其實每一條都是有它的功用存在\n再來這個Railbike 三立的話 現在是台灣最紅了 國際遊覽客很多張詩是不同意 報告院長 是我找鐵路局去協調工夫還有觀光局協調溝通 把它完成下來 不曉得 喔 人山人海\n人潮非常多,我們希望能跟台中不要為了選舉這樣,地方這樣結合起來,這樣變得有難。你只要完成,說是卓院長的時代完成了,陳部長你的時代完成了,你只要談出來,不要去計較地方各種,他做還是我做的,誰做都一樣,我永遠都保持這樣的心。\n所以這一條連接到台中、台安到台中尤其陳部長你帶上人,你這個把客戶下來不要分黨派,也沒有誰做的那一段真的非常漂亮,左院長你去走一趟你會喜歡苗栗,你會幫忙苗栗好不好好,再來\n台61縣縣港服務區中央地方共同民旅這是在西濱台61縣一個非常漂亮的地方我爭取了同意了以後但是到現在在推展容纏有困難那裡的漁港陳部長你是在雞皮疙瘩你很了解這裡這個你下來來看一下給他這個人潮這個漁港都很漂亮都很好\n真的都是很漂亮你一來看你大概曉得因為時間的關係我大概就這樣再來最美服務機日落大道那個報告院長 部長那個整台寫兵你看到海景的時候你不小心就會發生錯誤太漂亮了但是這個所在面積太小應該在空中擴大範圍在西濱快速道路\n在白沙屯的隔壁新埔的地方非常漂亮看到好尤其在落日大灶他今天的那個太陽沒有照那個夕陽西下沒有照出來很漂亮很多人在那一邊\n這個我麻煩土地的問題偶爾會請苗栗縣政府去解決你將會有補助給我們補助者會變成吸收景觀非常很多人在那邊再來做觀光休閒好不好那我講在條幅講到盡頭希望苗栗縣未來不僅保持原來的傳統的智慧農業還有客鄉的文化我們更希望朝科技層整個\n大溪谷的整體建設來共同發展所以我這件事要再感謝你再說大溪谷計畫裡面自然後融有一個產業科技研究再來的統銷 再來的萬利你記得你們執政黨在這海信的選票永遠是高知的\n好,謝謝陳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.993 --> 00:17.414\n首先有請卓院長卓院長早卓院長好4月25日經濟指導總執行\n\n00:38.959 --> 00:45.795\n我有問你,偷中日美,你講要面向平壤,要背對著台灣海峽,\n\n00:47.475 --> 01:16.057\n要告訴中國政府我們不走回頭路我們不走冤枉路我們不走臭的路再來你說要把台北城當為首都那時你回答不置可恍我再請教一下這個是不是要準備台灣獨立的一個宣告尤其從你昨天早上講出來的顯示特別重要你是不是在鋪陳這個\n\n01:17.861 --> 01:21.993\n台北當然是中華民國台灣的首都這個沒有錯第二點我們的市場\n\n01:26.721 --> 01:51.302\n看中國看太久我們必須轉向面向海洋走向世界你等於意思要跟中國所有的包括經濟交流要斷絕來往的意思在我們的經濟要走向全世界不能太依賴一個國家這裡面牽涉到我第二個問題也比較現代化的問題今天有很多報紙說賴總統五二年就職一週年\n\n01:52.463 --> 02:10.110\n我們的內閣要換成戰鬥內閣要找會有論事的官員準備為大罷免啟動那大內閣會不會換你的覺得前面這一段我們的內閣是在每個自己的工作崗位上\n\n02:11.109 --> 02:37.308\n去做競爭的你現在的內閣叫做什麼內閣告訴我才曉得行動創新內閣我們是以行動來現在以後戰鬥內閣跟你現在的內閣有什麼差別哪一個跟你現在的內閣未來報紙在寫說你們要組成戰鬥內閣準備要大連案好好的執政黨要發威一下要把在野黨的國會議員全部殲滅掉\n\n02:40.438 --> 02:41.764\n我告訴你一件事我也覺得很奇怪\n\n02:44.113 --> 03:12.671\n在這裡面有幾個七十歲以上的國會的立法委員身兼百戰每一個人都當過六七八屆的一個立法委員我們吃小麥今天要拔麵你們拔麵就要硬到這樣嘛所以我說你們真的要檢討一下要怎麼做前幾個一年新的才有這麼多新的一年沒有必要做協調溝通很重要\n\n03:13.744 --> 03:40.825\n針對每一位委員經由選舉而且是憲法賦予的權利行政院當然尊重所以我是希望說我們在這裡行政院的業務跟這裡大選從來不涉及所謂罷免的議題你是尊重也沒有中立的立場你還上台去演講講的是中央政府總預算跟關稅的問題台灣啊這樣很亂我要回到主題好不好今天的交通執行我們的陳部長麻煩你也來一下\n\n03:42.246 --> 03:50.929\n我第一個我說苗栗的牧利值得中央支持我很常常要講這個問題我們95年到112年苗栗為中央竄稅4147億中央給我們補資才2022億我們苗栗縣倒貼給中央是2125億\n\n04:07.884 --> 04:18.008\n加育縣跟屏東縣都是三級縣市的財政他們95年加育縣963億中央補賦給他2430億他們給他一村西班牙才幾億屏東縣2627億交給中央中央補賦給他3589億他們可以\n\n04:33.353 --> 04:41.699\n我每次都在這個執行台都拜託院長、部長我們的交通建設要好好給我們加油下去我們是邊緣網這時候是母女的孩子沒有糖吃所以我特別跟你拜託\n\n04:55.438 --> 05:12.685\n我今天不管財政收支發昏了未來怎麼做但是我把苗栗的實況給你苗栗的負債五百億這邊你再分一下兩千多億都沒有負債我們有努力有為地方建設地方繁榮發財稅收一直在增加\n\n05:16.587 --> 05:25.879\n你的回饋反而越低啊這個太不公平了不管未來怎麼樣我仍然希望左院長你繼續留任多多照顧苗玉仙\n\n05:27.315 --> 05:47.351\n第二個問題我用大西谷計畫我希望行政院要出來協調因為我們有兩個科學園區一個產業園區但是我們兩個科學園區大概開發出來有350公頃可用之地但是國科會只要用150公頃但是這200公頃\n\n05:50.973 --> 06:13.844\n國科會說這個開挖不是我認的國化會是上級指導的單位我說這個拜託今天國民司長也沒有來他當過國民司長在你坐在那裡我沒注意看到你現在當民司長說你幫我協調一下你授權給他協調一下好不好院長\n\n06:15.492 --> 06:21.215\n不過我不知道要怎麼來開發,要怎麼來經營這對我們苗栗縣未來的發展太重要了\n\n06:22.403 --> 06:50.435\n我今天來講是拜託你我們的港執委泰內行國民司長所有人來幫我協調這件事情好不好跟委員報告兩件事第一個行政院對苗栗不是善意是應該有的基本態度我們希望均衡地方大家都同樣的起來所以在我設想的這個財政收支方法如果照行政院的構想會讓財政弱的向縣市得到更多而不是向現在齊頭市的第二件\n\n06:51.535 --> 07:10.988\n這個桃竹苗大細股可以說是在520之後行政院第一個核定的六大產業生活區所以我們會照這個速度來持續的往前推進速度我沒有主管機關啦我事情不會做的啦所以我特別請國民市長來幫我們協調一下如果是六大區域這個產業生活區的話它的規劃機關是國發會這樣啦但落到目的世界主管機關它就會不一樣\n\n07:15.191 --> 07:43.505\n我很謝謝你重大計畫由你手裡合整但是我苗栗縣碰到困難我只拜託國民司長來協調國科會省政府會跟苗栗縣政府各個部位來協調誰當主管機關我才有辦法拖重大西部計畫完成賴總統及你們合定左院長你合定好不好阿卓那個國民司長你們覺得要求求啊\n\n07:44.945 --> 07:55.110\n議長說好要幫我辦一下跟他們合謀一下好不好再來我們交通部的陳部長你從市議員直升到交通部長我走一下\n\n07:56.311 --> 08:22.826\n我當時還以為不怎麼樣但是你到苗栗會刊的時候我發覺你回答任何問題非常成本非常實在很值得肯定我相信你經過歷練了以後你將來必有大用的但是你竟然會刊你都答應了你要把它做出來看你信用不信用就看在這裡就是\n\n08:24.498 --> 08:40.246\n黃磊交流道你說要核定這個拜託我就不再多講了我希望能把這幾個重大的建設推動完成我就可以功成身退我就功德圓滿我不曉得要用哪一個這個你不答應喔第二個\n\n08:43.388 --> 09:12.498\n西吳溪的合體公共西吳鄉只有五千多人最近兩年前才有一個那個7-11才在那邊開他要發展我已經推動三期的合體公共第四期的合體公共現在在可行性評估好啊拜託一度你說你很照顧苗栗關心苗栗我也謝謝你你下來我請你吃客家菜這條板他完成\n\n09:12.918 --> 09:32.346\n照顧邊鄉的地區好不好再來西吳鄉為什麼選票雖然很少但是這個地方沒有發展我覺得我要改進這個地方環境就是西吳區人外道路安城北日南村便利遊客與鄉親這個屬於高工級的\n\n09:35.083 --> 09:45.193\n那高工期裡面我希望特別注意我相信現在用很多工法可以把地方改變出來當然有少許阻力你一站不動\n\n09:47.271 --> 10:10.557\n你未來是很前途的,我來講這個好要幫忙完成再來我講得很快,因為再來後龍好望角那天你會館沒有到現場但是當地的鄉鎮長、議員、代表、里長一直拜託你好望角這個觀光風景區非常的漂亮、非常的好\n\n10:12.298 --> 10:36.652\n這兩條馬路一開跟廣天宮是結合在一起這兩個距離走路的話不到30分鐘可以增加很多遊覽的人口卓院長你那麼忙你還沒到苗栗我記得一次下次來多停留一下來看這個美好的地方你看完說不一定你不想當行政院長也不一定我請部長跟委員我們來規劃好不好再來\n\n10:42.247 --> 10:55.926\n就是台13線銅鑼鄉到山陸火車站拓寬解開地方交通瓶檢台13線唯一沒有失線道只有這一段但是到四期裡面我們曉得會遇到很多指令\n\n10:57.250 --> 11:24.738\n我們陳部長說答應人家協志承諾也要馬上進行這個一定要把它完成那裡面那一段我不勉強因為在市區裡面你再偷翻那裏的兵越來越多我再跟他們討論一個辦法出來好不好左院長這樣給你一個印象你知道說要怎麼做的事情這幾天起來是很重要的我不隨便提問題但是我提問題是直接進入核心再來\n\n11:25.734 --> 11:30.306\n通宵產業生命之路通宵正直通銅鑼科學人群這兩個鄉鎮\n\n11:33.184 --> 12:01.427\n是隔壘的那銅鑼現在一直在發展它隔壁的通宵輪口一直在流失如果能開一條道路從銅鑼科學園區接鄰的通宵鎮我相信對通宵鎮的就業繁榮、地方發展非常重要這條你不去看我會再排一次左院長有興趣到苗栗你們都來把這道路一開\n\n12:02.648 --> 12:22.199\n你們的票數越多我的票數也應該不會少我們兩個共盟齊力因為這個是你們的地盤不是我的地盤好不好這條很重要你可能看出來寫出來你覺得說這個好像很簡單其實每一條都是有它的功用存在\n\n12:24.073 --> 12:43.673\n再來這個Railbike三立的話現在是台灣最紅了國際遊覽客很多張詩是不同意報告院長是我找鐵路局去協調工夫還有觀光局協調溝通把它完成下來不曉得喔人山人海\n\n12:44.714 --> 13:08.646\n人潮非常多,我們希望能跟台中不要為了選舉這樣,地方這樣結合起來,這樣變得有難。你只要完成,說是卓院長的時代完成了,陳部長你的時代完成了,你只要談出來,不要去計較地方各種,他做還是我做的,誰做都一樣,我永遠都保持這樣的心。\n\n13:09.947 --> 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詢答完畢─","agenda_id":"1144201_00004"}}}