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00:01:06,216\n我們台灣是出口導向的國家所以匯率的問題是影響非常的大非常深遠所以要請院長多多注意好不好各位社會大眾我們第一個有信心第二個有一些不實的訊息不要隨便的傳遞出來我們讓央行能夠專業來穩定\n\n4\n00:01:08,217 --> 00:01:27,631\n請教院長院長部長我一直關心的台中大慶烏日段高架計畫台中市府114年1月9日含送修正後報告書另外一個案子台中海線雙軌高架也是在1月9日含送修正後報告書請問這兩個案子目前還在交通部嗎\n\n5\n00:01:33,437 --> 00:01:56,540\n請部長回答報告委員目前鐵道局在5月2號已經函請台中市政府要再辦修正所以我才說1月9號以後送了現在又送了到布了現在又在市政府了因為我們5月2號已經回函請他再繼續修正所以這樣子一來一往這第幾次了第四次第五次修正\n\n6\n00:01:57,130 --> 00:02:25,469\n教育委員重點是在於說我們希望台中市政府修正的內容希望他要真的落實下去修正那目前我們所看到的內容是他沒有依照我們的建議下去修正還有國發會的意見我跟院長跟部長說啦跟各位報告齁這個大慶烏日高架計畫部長也是烏日區選出來的市議員曾經在烏日區所以我也很想實現所以當地的情況你也非常清楚他迫在眉睫\n\n7\n00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:55,456\n那在原物料人力成本不斷攀升的情況之下越早核定越早發包省越多錢啦那而且在鐵道建設全國的鐵道建設總經費的匯成表當中我們也看到不管是桃園嘉義嘉義縣市台南高雄中央的占比都非常的高只有台中市的部分是地方占比比台中高那我不曉得說為什麼台中的大慶烏日段沒有辦法競速核定\n\n8\n00:02:56,529 --> 00:03:11,042\n這個部分因為周邊城市發展已經非常成熟啦我相信部長你比我比我們都一樣很清楚你從2010年當選市議員三屆的市議員都是當地選出來的所以我告訴你我已經在失敗這一屆我已經第四次總質詢在詢問這個問題失敗就兩年啦所以我想\n\n9\n00:03:22,025 --> 00:03:50,385\n我們看不到任何發展都是原地踏步我們身為烏日選出來的民意代表立委也好部長也好我相信民眾的期待我們是不希望能夠不希望讓民眾失望啦我相信我們的市民對柏定也有很大的期待但是我感覺你會讓人很失望啦那接下來我們國內三鐵共過的部分三鐵共過站有台北板橋還有高雄\n\n10\n00:03:51,005 --> 00:04:18,809\n那台中新日日站也是三鐵共購但是所有的站都有自強號停靠但是只有新日日站每日只有兩班南下的自強號停靠我要請院長部長台鐵公司研議民眾的需求新增自強號停靠台鐵新日日站還有增加停靠台鐵新日日站的班次因為台中市的人口已經是全國第二大不日區超過八萬人\n\n11\n00:04:19,770 --> 00:04:26,974\n那三鐵公共站竟然只有兩班停靠這非常誇張啦這真的非常誇張請院長跟部長承諾好不好報告委員除了這兩班之外如果在連假或者是假期期間人潮眾多的時候當然知道嘛會調整嘛但是你肯定在原有現有的狀況之下增加班次嘛\n\n12\n00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:52,634\n目前我們正在跟台鐵討論這個問題我也認為那個地方需要增加對號車次那我們也跟台鐵正在溝通當中\n\n13\n00:04:53,530 --> 00:05:13,501\n好,我希望你是一個有效率的部長不要說當成...我告訴你,兩年了,我剛剛提到了,這不只兩年你在當議員的時候,我們就一直...你也曾經協助地方在推動這個大慶烏日高價化可是你當了部長了,你就應該更用力的來推動啦我現在很用力了,現在也需要台中市政府配合\n\n14\n00:05:14,221 --> 00:05:40,220\n委員您家人在台中市政府的影響力應該也不小是不是可以拜託他們幫忙一下提出這些經費的問題民意代表不管是議員議會全力在協助部長我們不要在這裡這樣讀來讀去一定會努力做交通部不能做我們就來做事情好這個烏日高鐵這個娛樂城我想大家知道現在最大的一個這個開發區在台中的烏日高鐵\n\n15\n00:05:41,155 --> 00:06:04,195\n那這個高鐵業城總開發金額超過260億那基地面積超過15公頃那我想周邊的交通絕對是會超過負荷上次我在這邊質詢院長跟部長的時候你有提過說要組成專案小組那但是我跟交通部要的資料發現說第一次開會的時候高鐵公司居然沒有被放在出席單位啦那會議結論是\n\n16\n00:06:06,389 --> 00:06:29,743\n請將台灣高鐵公司納入專案小組會議成員所以我在想說這是不是我們高鐵公司出什麼問題是融資鬆了還是出現什麼問題那成立這個專案小組也是部長院長部長當時的承諾那這個專案小組是要來解決相關問題的而不是一個應付的一個型態所以我想要請部長院長\n\n17\n00:06:31,744 --> 00:06:43,128\n我們在這邊做一個承諾未來的會議結論也可以提供給本席辦公室那是不是也可以讓本院的委員來參與會議一起幫烏日解決問題院長部長可不可以這個已經是去年的會議紀錄了\n\n18\n00:06:50,083 --> 00:07:11,493\n那去年到現在這幾個月下來,應該當中都有按部就班在進行相關的討論我現在問你嘛,當初高鐵第一次會議竟然沒有被納入,不是出席,沒有被放入出席單位嘛這第一次嘛,後面這要開幾次就改回啊,那開了這麼多次會,回到問題本身啦齁\n\n19\n00:07:12,827 --> 00:07:40,762\n到底怎麼樣才可以舒緩這些交通啦不論是在國道1號偵測閘道還是優化台7的視線讓進入高鐵站區跟進入漁獄城的車輛分流又或者是在烏日閘道、王田交流道的優化還是舒緩這些都是對於舒緩高鐵特區未來可能面臨的擁捨問題不然我現在已經可以預期就是說每逢假日車輛從停運道路會回乳到高架上啦這是肯定會發生的啦\n\n20\n00:07:42,445 --> 00:07:50,165\n我在這邊跟院長部長詳細講一下有兩個方向第一個就是設法增加平面道路的容量\n\n21\n00:07:51,343 --> 00:08:11,048\n那第二個就是快速高速快速道路增加閘道那第一點台中市政府也正在努力主要就是要將目前高鐵五路調整成左轉的單行道這個部長你就清楚了高鐵五路左轉要上這個高鐵的這個乘客這個高鐵站\n\n22\n00:08:12,528 --> 00:08:30,616\n這樣子的話可以再來就是高鐵路二段跟三段的分隔島打除可以增加路幅還有增加這個行車空間那第三個就是高鐵五路打通輪子巷打通輪子巷然後銜接這個學鐵路但是這個案子會貫穿\n\n23\n00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:58,126\n穿越這個國道1號與高工局相關這個部分那第二點就是中央應該出力協助的台七四線閘道拓寬國道1號銜接高鐵特區台七四線有這個預留斷面是不是可以直接銜接至高鐵站二樓下課區我要強調建議這個拓寬台七四線閘道提升下閘道往高鐵站的紓解效率\n\n24\n00:08:58,846 --> 00:09:13,264\n有三項建議因為這個要做的事情太多了第一個就是高鐵東路的閘道由一車道變成三車道我們下閘道的那部分部長你今天早上我們一起搭高鐵上來你很清楚回堵都回堵在那裡\n\n25\n00:09:14,195 --> 00:09:30,613\n那第二個就是拓寬長度是110米這個部分可以增加儲車空間下閘道車輛可以提早分流可以提升這個右轉來舒緩這個右轉的效率我再強調一次就是說鐵道局的促參案\n\n26\n00:09:31,994 --> 00:09:52,323\n中央不應該置身事外朝向這兩大方向中央地方都應該要齊心努力共同努力那相關的法規在我剛剛提到的三個方案請問何時可以提供本席這個初步評估的結果報告委員中央沒有置身事外副院長也相當關心我跟副院長也開過會討論過這個問題\n\n27\n00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:17,883\n那鐵道局也召開過三次的會議,您也應該相當的清楚所以從來沒有置身事外這件事那第二,您所提的這幾個建議都是我們當時在會議當中大家都有討論到的那目前也都在研議的過程不過有一些是市政府必須要去做的努力那市政府就去做但是中央該做的包含委員您剛剛有提到這個高速公路要不要設閘道的部分\n\n28\n00:10:18,283 --> 00:10:46,296\n中央也會協助來補助地方政府來做這個可行性的研究那如果做出來是可行的我們當然就會來做副院長我們江啟臣副院長4月24號召集我們台中市的委員還有市政府還有交通部鐵道局也有參加鐵道局當天有承諾說要有答應補助這個研究經費研究案的研究經費那什麼時候可以補助他們要先提出申請我們就會盡快補助\n\n29\n00:10:48,103 --> 00:11:11,133\n都已經提出申請了怎麼沒有提出申請上次的決議是希望他們提出申請沒有4月24號我們已經在副院長我們所邀請的這個地方的一個在高鐵站那個案子當場我們那個鐵道局承諾要盡速的來撥補就是來提供這個經費院長部長我想我們都要\n\n30\n00:11:12,697 --> 00:11:20,742\n盡力的來協助好不好我們不要裝空外不要這樣子都好像沒有在online的樣子那我想再來再請教就是說\n\n31\n00:11:22,076 --> 00:11:47,296\n台中市4月27號在巷上又發生了重大車禍那一輛連結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡衝撞20多輛汽機車造成多人輕重傷沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生短中長期計畫我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善我從2013年上任之後提案興建大渡和美大橋\n\n32\n00:11:48,342 --> 00:12:02,314\n那原因就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路的大型車的車流如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道未來也可以來嚴禮禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段\n\n33\n00:12:02,881 --> 00:12:20,363\n那直接經由國道3號銜接這個河北交流道後透過河北大橋來進入台中港區那我想當地部長你也很熟悉啦那目前我們已經請市府朝深圳線道路的目標來改善那目前有因為\n\n34\n00:12:21,397 --> 00:12:41,885\n向上路從圓圓路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段短程的高架也沒有辦法去緩解下坡路段的情況所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究\n\n35\n00:12:43,586 --> 00:12:54,993\n但是我們在109年但是因為這個是內政部國土署因為是都市計畫道路那內政部國土署也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費\n\n36\n00:12:56,335 --> 00:13:16,723\n109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的這個高架部分當時出估經費就已經將近40億那按照這些年的這些通膨還有上漲的程度我想超過6年了這些造價可能會超過50億而且還只是銜接到中興橋如果延伸到台61線\n\n37\n00:13:18,243 --> 00:13:42,472\n這些經費可能要兩倍以上所以在這邊要先請院長、部長承諾願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台六十一線的這樣子的可能性院長跟部長願不願意承諾這兩件事情就是說向上路這個車禍我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌標線等等要做好那減少這種安全上的顧慮\n\n38\n00:13:43,112 --> 00:14:10,763\n那至於說台61線好像跟這裡的距離還是有一點那未來要做什麼樣的評估因為向上路發生車禍不是今年這是從過去到現在已經發生很多次我們貴院何新淳委員也到現場去會堪但是他提的方案也是過去不管是交通局或者是這些裁判機構都有做出相同的一些處理那所以這個部分其實大家都已經\n\n39\n00:14:12,063 --> 00:14:36,348\n所有的應用方式都有已經討論過區段測速任何方式都有討論過所以這個部分我想進入高價的這樣的計畫的引領才是主要的方向所以從現在兩個一個是延伸台六十一線那因為如果說只延伸到所謂的中心橋短短的四公里就預算就將近四十億而且這還是六年前的估算\n\n40\n00:14:37,068 --> 00:14:46,052\n那未來如果你現在去算應該會超過五十億啦那如果延伸到台六十一線那個經費更加龐大所以這邊一定要這個台中市沒辦法獨立完成一定要請院長部長來盡力的協助好不好因為我時間有限那我進入下一個本席因為這個收到大客車整體產業公會的陳情他主要陳情的內容是因為政府已經\n\n41\n00:15:01,238 --> 00:15:27,982\n以規定全面採用六期環保高安全標準車那業者希望政府進一步補助來提供政策誘因來減輕購車負擔避免影響這個市場購車意願那在不影響用車安全的情況下希望交通部能夠聽到大客車業者的心聲那當然第一個主要一個核心就是民眾的安全第一民眾的安全第一我們就來協助大客車整體這些公會他們的\n\n42\n00:16:52,268 --> 00:16:52,729\n好謝謝嚴委員謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6812\t14696\t主席各位立席官員大家早主席有請行政院左院長交通部陳部長請左院長還有陳部長備詢院長早部長早台幣升值目前已經來到29國內所有的製造業各產業都非常的緊張我想請教院長\n36503\t51472\t後續會不會繼續升值這個國際的情勢跟市場的機制我們當然要有所掌握那我覺得目前我們在觀測過程當中似乎大家心裡的預期都比較強烈一點\n51923\t66216\t我們台灣是出口導向的國家所以匯率的問題是影響非常的大 非常深遠所以要請院長多多注意 好不好各位社會大眾 我們第一個有信心第二個 有一些不實的訊息不要隨便的傳遞出來我們讓央行能夠專業來穩定\n68217\t87631\t請教院長 院長 部長我一直關心的台中大慶烏日段高架計畫台中市府114年1月9日含送修正後報告書另外一個案子 台中海線雙軌高架也是在1月9日含送修正後報告書請問這兩個案子目前還在交通部嗎\n93437\t116540\t請部長回答報告委員目前鐵道局在5月2號已經函請台中市政府要再辦修正所以我才說1月9號以後送了現在又送了到布了現在又在市政府了因為我們5月2號已經回函請他再繼續修正所以這樣子一來一往這第幾次了第四次第五次修正\n117130\t145469\t教育委員重點是在於說我們希望台中市政府修正的內容希望他要真的落實下去修正那目前我們所看到的內容是他沒有依照我們的建議下去修正還有國發會的意見我跟院長跟部長說啦跟各位報告齁這個大慶烏日高架計畫部長也是烏日區選出來的市議員曾經在烏日區所以我也很想實現所以當地的情況你也非常清楚他迫在眉睫\n146380\t175456\t那在原物料人力成本不斷攀升的情況之下越早核定越早發包省越多錢啦那而且在鐵道建設全國的鐵道建設總經費的匯成表當中我們也看到不管是桃園嘉義嘉義縣市台南高雄中央的占比都非常的高只有台中市的部分是地方占比比台中高那我不曉得說為什麼台中的大慶烏日段沒有辦法競速核定\n176529\t191042\t這個部分因為周邊城市發展已經非常成熟啦我相信部長你比我比我們都一樣很清楚你從2010年當選市議員三屆的市議員都是當地選出來的所以我告訴你我已經在失敗這一屆我已經第四次總質詢在詢問這個問題失敗就兩年啦所以我想\n202025\t230385\t我們看不到任何發展都是原地踏步我們身為烏日選出來的民意代表立委也好 部長也好我相信民眾的期待我們是不希望能夠不希望讓民眾失望啦我相信我們的市民對柏定也有很大的期待但是我感覺你會讓人很失望啦那接下來我們國內三鐵共過的部分三鐵共過站有台北板橋還有高雄\n231005\t258809\t那台中新日日站也是三鐵共購但是所有的站都有自強號停靠但是只有新日日站每日只有兩班南下的自強號停靠我要請院長部長台鐵公司研議民眾的需求新增自強號停靠台鐵新日日站還有增加停靠台鐵新日日站的班次因為台中市的人口已經是全國第二大不日區超過八萬人\n259770\t266974\t那三鐵公共站竟然只有兩班停靠 這非常誇張啦這真的非常誇張 請院長跟部長承諾好不好報告委員 除了這兩班之外如果在連假 或者是假期期間人潮眾多的時候當然知道嘛 會調整嘛但是你肯定在原有現有的狀況之下增加班次嘛\n284720\t292634\t目前我們正在跟台鐵討論這個問題我也認為那個地方需要增加對號車次那我們也跟台鐵正在溝通當中\n293530\t313501\t好,我希望你是一個有效率的部長不要說當成...我告訴你,兩年了,我剛剛提到了,這不只兩年你在當議員的時候,我們就一直...你也曾經協助地方在推動這個大慶烏日高價化可是你當了部長了,你就應該更用力的來推動啦我現在很用力了,現在也需要台中市政府配合\n314221\t340220\t委員 您家人在台中市政府的影響力應該也不小是不是可以拜託他們幫忙一下提出這些經費的問題民意代表不管是議員 議會 全力在協助部長 我們不要在這裡這樣讀來讀去一定會努力做 交通部不能做我們就來做事情好 這個烏日高鐵這個娛樂城我想大家知道現在最大的一個這個開發區在台中的烏日高鐵\n341155\t364195\t那這個高鐵業城總開發金額超過260億那基地面積超過15公頃那我想周邊的交通絕對是會超過負荷上次我在這邊質詢院長跟部長的時候你有提過說要組成專案小組那但是我跟交通部要的資料發現說第一次開會的時候高鐵公司居然沒有被放在出席單位啦那會議結論是\n366389\t389743\t請將台灣高鐵公司納入專案小組會議成員所以我在想說這是不是我們高鐵公司出什麼問題是融資鬆了還是出現什麼問題那成立這個專案小組也是部長院長部長當時的承諾那這個專案小組是要來解決相關問題的而不是一個應付的一個型態所以我想要請部長 院長\n391744\t403128\t我們在這邊做一個承諾未來的會議結論也可以提供給本席辦公室那是不是也可以讓本院的委員來參與會議一起幫烏日解決問題院長部長可不可以這個已經是去年的會議紀錄了\n410083\t431493\t那去年到現在這幾個月下來,應該當中都有按部就班在進行相關的討論我現在問你嘛,當初高鐵第一次會議竟然沒有被納入,不是出席,沒有被放入出席單位嘛這第一次嘛,後面這要開幾次就改回啊,那開了這麼多次會,回到問題本身啦齁\n432827\t460762\t到底怎麼樣才可以舒緩這些交通啦不論是在國道1號偵測閘道還是優化台7的視線讓進入高鐵站區跟進入漁獄城的車輛分流又或者是在烏日閘道、王田交流道的優化還是舒緩這些都是對於舒緩高鐵特區未來可能面臨的擁捨問題不然我現在已經可以預期就是說每逢假日車輛從停運道路會回乳到高架上啦這是肯定會發生的啦\n462445\t470165\t我在這邊跟院長部長詳細講一下有兩個方向第一個就是設法增加平面道路的容量\n471343\t491048\t那第二個就是快速高速快速道路增加閘道那第一點台中市政府也正在努力主要就是要將目前高鐵五路調整成左轉的單行道這個部長你就清楚了高鐵五路左轉要上這個高鐵的這個乘客這個高鐵站\n492528\t510616\t這樣子的話可以再來就是高鐵路二段跟三段的分隔島打除可以增加路幅還有增加這個行車空間那第三個就是高鐵五路打通輪子巷打通輪子巷然後銜接這個學鐵路但是這個案子會貫穿\n512887\t538126\t穿越這個國道1號與高工局相關這個部分那第二點就是中央應該出力協助的台七四線閘道拓寬國道1號銜接高鐵特區台七四線有這個預留斷面是不是可以直接銜接至高鐵站二樓下課區我要強調建議這個拓寬台七四線閘道提升下閘道往高鐵站的紓解效率\n538846\t553264\t有三項建議因為這個要做的事情太多了第一個就是高鐵東路的閘道由一車道變成三車道我們下閘道的那部分部長你今天早上我們一起搭高鐵上來你很清楚回堵都回堵在那裡\n554195\t570613\t那第二個就是拓寬長度是110米這個部分可以增加儲車空間下閘道車輛可以提早分流可以提升這個右轉來舒緩這個右轉的效率我再強調一次就是說鐵道局的促參案\n571994\t592323\t中央不應該置身事外朝向這兩大方向中央地方都應該要齊心努力共同努力那相關的法規在我剛剛提到的三個方案請問何時可以提供本席這個初步評估的結果報告委員中央沒有置身事外副院長也相當關心我跟副院長也開過會討論過這個問題\n594400\t617883\t那鐵道局也召開過三次的會議,您也應該相當的清楚所以從來沒有置身事外這件事那第二,您所提的這幾個建議都是我們當時在會議當中大家都有討論到的那目前也都在研議的過程不過有一些是市政府必須要去做的努力那市政府就去做但是中央該做的包含委員您剛剛有提到這個高速公路要不要設閘道的部分\n618283\t646296\t中央也會協助來補助地方政府來做這個可行性的研究那如果做出來是可行的我們當然就會來做副院長我們江啟臣副院長4月24號召集我們台中市的委員還有市政府還有交通部鐵道局也有參加鐵道局當天有承諾說要有答應補助這個研究經費研究案的研究經費那什麼時候可以補助他們要先提出申請我們就會盡快補助\n648103\t671133\t都已經提出申請了 怎麼沒有提出申請上次的決議是希望他們提出申請沒有 4月24號我們已經在副院長我們所邀請的這個地方的一個在高鐵站那個案子 當場我們那個鐵道局承諾要盡速的來撥補就是來提供這個經費院長部長 我想我們都要\n672697\t680742\t盡力的來協助好不好我們不要裝空外不要這樣子都好像沒有在online的樣子那我想再來再請教就是說\n682076\t707296\t台中市4月27號在巷上又發生了重大車禍那一輛連結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡衝撞20多輛汽機車造成多人輕重傷沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生短中長期計畫我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善我從2013年上任之後提案興建大渡和美大橋\n708342\t722314\t那原因就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路的大型車的車流如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道未來也可以來嚴禮禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段\n722881\t740363\t那直接經由國道3號銜接這個河北交流道後透過河北大橋來進入台中港區那我想當地部長你也很熟悉啦那目前我們已經請市府朝深圳線道路的目標來改善那目前有因為\n741397\t761885\t向上路從圓圓路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段短程的高架也沒有辦法去緩解下坡路段的情況所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究\n763586\t774993\t但是我們在109年但是因為這個是內政部國土署因為是都市計畫道路那內政部國土署也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費\n776335\t796723\t109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的這個高架部分當時出估經費就已經將近40億那按照這些年的這些通膨還有上漲的程度我想超過6年了這些造價可能會超過50億而且還只是銜接到中興橋如果延伸到台61線\n798243\t822472\t這些經費可能要兩倍以上所以在這邊要先請院長、部長承諾願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台六十一線的這樣子的可能性院長跟部長願不願意承諾這兩件事情就是說向上路這個車禍我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌標線等等要做好那減少這種安全上的顧慮\n823112\t850763\t那至於說台61線好像跟這裡的距離還是有一點那未來要做什麼樣的評估因為向上路發生車禍不是今年這是從過去到現在已經發生很多次我們貴院何新淳委員也到現場去會堪但是他提的方案也是過去不管是交通局或者是這些裁判機構都有做出相同的一些處理那所以這個部分其實大家都已經\n852063\t876348\t所有的應用方式都有已經討論過區段測速任何方式都有討論過所以這個部分我想進入高價的這樣的計畫的引領才是主要的方向所以從現在兩個一個是延伸台六十一線那因為如果說只延伸到所謂的中心橋短短的四公里就預算就將近四十億而且這還是六年前的估算\n877068\t886052\t那未來如果你現在去算應該會超過五十億啦那如果延伸到台六十一線那個經費更加龐大所以這邊一定要這個台中市沒辦法獨立完成一定要請院長部長來盡力的協助好不好因為我時間有限那我進入下一個本席因為這個收到大客車整體產業公會的陳情他主要陳情的內容是因為政府已經\n901238\t927982\t以規定全面採用六期環保高安全標準車那業者希望政府進一步補助來提供政策誘因來減輕購車負擔避免影響這個市場購車意願那在不影響用車安全的情況下希望交通部能夠聽到大客車業者的心聲那當然第一個主要一個核心就是民眾的安全第一民眾的安全第一我們就來協助大客車整體這些公會他們的\n1012268\t1012729\t好 謝謝嚴委員 謝謝\n","txt":"主席各位立席官員大家早主席有請行政院左院長交通部陳部長請左院長還有陳部長備詢院長早部長早台幣升值目前已經來到29國內所有的製造業各產業都非常的緊張我想請教院長\n後續會不會繼續升值這個國際的情勢跟市場的機制我們當然要有所掌握那我覺得目前我們在觀測過程當中似乎大家心裡的預期都比較強烈一點\n我們台灣是出口導向的國家所以匯率的問題是影響非常的大 非常深遠所以要請院長多多注意 好不好各位社會大眾 我們第一個有信心第二個 有一些不實的訊息不要隨便的傳遞出來我們讓央行能夠專業來穩定\n請教院長 院長 部長我一直關心的台中大慶烏日段高架計畫台中市府114年1月9日含送修正後報告書另外一個案子 台中海線雙軌高架也是在1月9日含送修正後報告書請問這兩個案子目前還在交通部嗎\n請部長回答報告委員目前鐵道局在5月2號已經函請台中市政府要再辦修正所以我才說1月9號以後送了現在又送了到布了現在又在市政府了因為我們5月2號已經回函請他再繼續修正所以這樣子一來一往這第幾次了第四次第五次修正\n教育委員重點是在於說我們希望台中市政府修正的內容希望他要真的落實下去修正那目前我們所看到的內容是他沒有依照我們的建議下去修正還有國發會的意見我跟院長跟部長說啦跟各位報告齁這個大慶烏日高架計畫部長也是烏日區選出來的市議員曾經在烏日區所以我也很想實現所以當地的情況你也非常清楚他迫在眉睫\n那在原物料人力成本不斷攀升的情況之下越早核定越早發包省越多錢啦那而且在鐵道建設全國的鐵道建設總經費的匯成表當中我們也看到不管是桃園嘉義嘉義縣市台南高雄中央的占比都非常的高只有台中市的部分是地方占比比台中高那我不曉得說為什麼台中的大慶烏日段沒有辦法競速核定\n這個部分因為周邊城市發展已經非常成熟啦我相信部長你比我比我們都一樣很清楚你從2010年當選市議員三屆的市議員都是當地選出來的所以我告訴你我已經在失敗這一屆我已經第四次總質詢在詢問這個問題失敗就兩年啦所以我想\n我們看不到任何發展都是原地踏步我們身為烏日選出來的民意代表立委也好 部長也好我相信民眾的期待我們是不希望能夠不希望讓民眾失望啦我相信我們的市民對柏定也有很大的期待但是我感覺你會讓人很失望啦那接下來我們國內三鐵共過的部分三鐵共過站有台北板橋還有高雄\n那台中新日日站也是三鐵共購但是所有的站都有自強號停靠但是只有新日日站每日只有兩班南下的自強號停靠我要請院長部長台鐵公司研議民眾的需求新增自強號停靠台鐵新日日站還有增加停靠台鐵新日日站的班次因為台中市的人口已經是全國第二大不日區超過八萬人\n那三鐵公共站竟然只有兩班停靠 這非常誇張啦這真的非常誇張 請院長跟部長承諾好不好報告委員 除了這兩班之外如果在連假 或者是假期期間人潮眾多的時候當然知道嘛 會調整嘛但是你肯定在原有現有的狀況之下增加班次嘛\n目前我們正在跟台鐵討論這個問題我也認為那個地方需要增加對號車次那我們也跟台鐵正在溝通當中\n好,我希望你是一個有效率的部長不要說當成...我告訴你,兩年了,我剛剛提到了,這不只兩年你在當議員的時候,我們就一直...你也曾經協助地方在推動這個大慶烏日高價化可是你當了部長了,你就應該更用力的來推動啦我現在很用力了,現在也需要台中市政府配合\n委員 您家人在台中市政府的影響力應該也不小是不是可以拜託他們幫忙一下提出這些經費的問題民意代表不管是議員 議會 全力在協助部長 我們不要在這裡這樣讀來讀去一定會努力做 交通部不能做我們就來做事情好 這個烏日高鐵這個娛樂城我想大家知道現在最大的一個這個開發區在台中的烏日高鐵\n那這個高鐵業城總開發金額超過260億那基地面積超過15公頃那我想周邊的交通絕對是會超過負荷上次我在這邊質詢院長跟部長的時候你有提過說要組成專案小組那但是我跟交通部要的資料發現說第一次開會的時候高鐵公司居然沒有被放在出席單位啦那會議結論是\n請將台灣高鐵公司納入專案小組會議成員所以我在想說這是不是我們高鐵公司出什麼問題是融資鬆了還是出現什麼問題那成立這個專案小組也是部長院長部長當時的承諾那這個專案小組是要來解決相關問題的而不是一個應付的一個型態所以我想要請部長 院長\n我們在這邊做一個承諾未來的會議結論也可以提供給本席辦公室那是不是也可以讓本院的委員來參與會議一起幫烏日解決問題院長部長可不可以這個已經是去年的會議紀錄了\n那去年到現在這幾個月下來,應該當中都有按部就班在進行相關的討論我現在問你嘛,當初高鐵第一次會議竟然沒有被納入,不是出席,沒有被放入出席單位嘛這第一次嘛,後面這要開幾次就改回啊,那開了這麼多次會,回到問題本身啦齁\n到底怎麼樣才可以舒緩這些交通啦不論是在國道1號偵測閘道還是優化台7的視線讓進入高鐵站區跟進入漁獄城的車輛分流又或者是在烏日閘道、王田交流道的優化還是舒緩這些都是對於舒緩高鐵特區未來可能面臨的擁捨問題不然我現在已經可以預期就是說每逢假日車輛從停運道路會回乳到高架上啦這是肯定會發生的啦\n我在這邊跟院長部長詳細講一下有兩個方向第一個就是設法增加平面道路的容量\n那第二個就是快速高速快速道路增加閘道那第一點台中市政府也正在努力主要就是要將目前高鐵五路調整成左轉的單行道這個部長你就清楚了高鐵五路左轉要上這個高鐵的這個乘客這個高鐵站\n這樣子的話可以再來就是高鐵路二段跟三段的分隔島打除可以增加路幅還有增加這個行車空間那第三個就是高鐵五路打通輪子巷打通輪子巷然後銜接這個學鐵路但是這個案子會貫穿\n穿越這個國道1號與高工局相關這個部分那第二點就是中央應該出力協助的台七四線閘道拓寬國道1號銜接高鐵特區台七四線有這個預留斷面是不是可以直接銜接至高鐵站二樓下課區我要強調建議這個拓寬台七四線閘道提升下閘道往高鐵站的紓解效率\n有三項建議因為這個要做的事情太多了第一個就是高鐵東路的閘道由一車道變成三車道我們下閘道的那部分部長你今天早上我們一起搭高鐵上來你很清楚回堵都回堵在那裡\n那第二個就是拓寬長度是110米這個部分可以增加儲車空間下閘道車輛可以提早分流可以提升這個右轉來舒緩這個右轉的效率我再強調一次就是說鐵道局的促參案\n中央不應該置身事外朝向這兩大方向中央地方都應該要齊心努力共同努力那相關的法規在我剛剛提到的三個方案請問何時可以提供本席這個初步評估的結果報告委員中央沒有置身事外副院長也相當關心我跟副院長也開過會討論過這個問題\n那鐵道局也召開過三次的會議,您也應該相當的清楚所以從來沒有置身事外這件事那第二,您所提的這幾個建議都是我們當時在會議當中大家都有討論到的那目前也都在研議的過程不過有一些是市政府必須要去做的努力那市政府就去做但是中央該做的包含委員您剛剛有提到這個高速公路要不要設閘道的部分\n中央也會協助來補助地方政府來做這個可行性的研究那如果做出來是可行的我們當然就會來做副院長我們江啟臣副院長4月24號召集我們台中市的委員還有市政府還有交通部鐵道局也有參加鐵道局當天有承諾說要有答應補助這個研究經費研究案的研究經費那什麼時候可以補助他們要先提出申請我們就會盡快補助\n都已經提出申請了 怎麼沒有提出申請上次的決議是希望他們提出申請沒有 4月24號我們已經在副院長我們所邀請的這個地方的一個在高鐵站那個案子 當場我們那個鐵道局承諾要盡速的來撥補就是來提供這個經費院長部長 我想我們都要\n盡力的來協助好不好我們不要裝空外不要這樣子都好像沒有在online的樣子那我想再來再請教就是說\n台中市4月27號在巷上又發生了重大車禍那一輛連結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡衝撞20多輛汽機車造成多人輕重傷沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生短中長期計畫我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善我從2013年上任之後提案興建大渡和美大橋\n那原因就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路的大型車的車流如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道未來也可以來嚴禮禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段\n那直接經由國道3號銜接這個河北交流道後透過河北大橋來進入台中港區那我想當地部長你也很熟悉啦那目前我們已經請市府朝深圳線道路的目標來改善那目前有因為\n向上路從圓圓路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段短程的高架也沒有辦法去緩解下坡路段的情況所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究\n但是我們在109年但是因為這個是內政部國土署因為是都市計畫道路那內政部國土署也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費\n109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的這個高架部分當時出估經費就已經將近40億那按照這些年的這些通膨還有上漲的程度我想超過6年了這些造價可能會超過50億而且還只是銜接到中興橋如果延伸到台61線\n這些經費可能要兩倍以上所以在這邊要先請院長、部長承諾願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台六十一線的這樣子的可能性院長跟部長願不願意承諾這兩件事情就是說向上路這個車禍我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌標線等等要做好那減少這種安全上的顧慮\n那至於說台61線好像跟這裡的距離還是有一點那未來要做什麼樣的評估因為向上路發生車禍不是今年這是從過去到現在已經發生很多次我們貴院何新淳委員也到現場去會堪但是他提的方案也是過去不管是交通局或者是這些裁判機構都有做出相同的一些處理那所以這個部分其實大家都已經\n所有的應用方式都有已經討論過區段測速任何方式都有討論過所以這個部分我想進入高價的這樣的計畫的引領才是主要的方向所以從現在兩個一個是延伸台六十一線那因為如果說只延伸到所謂的中心橋短短的四公里就預算就將近四十億而且這還是六年前的估算\n那未來如果你現在去算應該會超過五十億啦那如果延伸到台六十一線那個經費更加龐大所以這邊一定要這個台中市沒辦法獨立完成一定要請院長部長來盡力的協助好不好因為我時間有限那我進入下一個本席因為這個收到大客車整體產業公會的陳情他主要陳情的內容是因為政府已經\n以規定全面採用六期環保高安全標準車那業者希望政府進一步補助來提供政策誘因來減輕購車負擔避免影響這個市場購車意願那在不影響用車安全的情況下希望交通部能夠聽到大客車業者的心聲那當然第一個主要一個核心就是民眾的安全第一民眾的安全第一我們就來協助大客車整體這些公會他們的\n好 謝謝嚴委員 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.812 --> 00:14.696\n主席各位立席官員大家早主席有請行政院左院長交通部陳部長請左院長還有陳部長備詢院長早部長早台幣升值目前已經來到29國內所有的製造業各產業都非常的緊張我想請教院長\n\n00:36.503 --> 00:51.472\n後續會不會繼續升值這個國際的情勢跟市場的機制我們當然要有所掌握那我覺得目前我們在觀測過程當中似乎大家心裡的預期都比較強烈一點\n\n00:51.923 --> 01:06.216\n我們台灣是出口導向的國家所以匯率的問題是影響非常的大非常深遠所以要請院長多多注意好不好各位社會大眾我們第一個有信心第二個有一些不實的訊息不要隨便的傳遞出來我們讓央行能夠專業來穩定\n\n01:08.217 --> 01:27.631\n請教院長院長部長我一直關心的台中大慶烏日段高架計畫台中市府114年1月9日含送修正後報告書另外一個案子台中海線雙軌高架也是在1月9日含送修正後報告書請問這兩個案子目前還在交通部嗎\n\n01:33.437 --> 01:56.540\n請部長回答報告委員目前鐵道局在5月2號已經函請台中市政府要再辦修正所以我才說1月9號以後送了現在又送了到布了現在又在市政府了因為我們5月2號已經回函請他再繼續修正所以這樣子一來一往這第幾次了第四次第五次修正\n\n01:57.130 --> 02:25.469\n教育委員重點是在於說我們希望台中市政府修正的內容希望他要真的落實下去修正那目前我們所看到的內容是他沒有依照我們的建議下去修正還有國發會的意見我跟院長跟部長說啦跟各位報告齁這個大慶烏日高架計畫部長也是烏日區選出來的市議員曾經在烏日區所以我也很想實現所以當地的情況你也非常清楚他迫在眉睫\n\n02:26.380 --> 02:55.456\n那在原物料人力成本不斷攀升的情況之下越早核定越早發包省越多錢啦那而且在鐵道建設全國的鐵道建設總經費的匯成表當中我們也看到不管是桃園嘉義嘉義縣市台南高雄中央的占比都非常的高只有台中市的部分是地方占比比台中高那我不曉得說為什麼台中的大慶烏日段沒有辦法競速核定\n\n02:56.529 --> 03:11.042\n這個部分因為周邊城市發展已經非常成熟啦我相信部長你比我比我們都一樣很清楚你從2010年當選市議員三屆的市議員都是當地選出來的所以我告訴你我已經在失敗這一屆我已經第四次總質詢在詢問這個問題失敗就兩年啦所以我想\n\n03:22.025 --> 03:50.385\n我們看不到任何發展都是原地踏步我們身為烏日選出來的民意代表立委也好部長也好我相信民眾的期待我們是不希望能夠不希望讓民眾失望啦我相信我們的市民對柏定也有很大的期待但是我感覺你會讓人很失望啦那接下來我們國內三鐵共過的部分三鐵共過站有台北板橋還有高雄\n\n03:51.005 --> 04:18.809\n那台中新日日站也是三鐵共購但是所有的站都有自強號停靠但是只有新日日站每日只有兩班南下的自強號停靠我要請院長部長台鐵公司研議民眾的需求新增自強號停靠台鐵新日日站還有增加停靠台鐵新日日站的班次因為台中市的人口已經是全國第二大不日區超過八萬人\n\n04:19.770 --> 04:26.974\n那三鐵公共站竟然只有兩班停靠這非常誇張啦這真的非常誇張請院長跟部長承諾好不好報告委員除了這兩班之外如果在連假或者是假期期間人潮眾多的時候當然知道嘛會調整嘛但是你肯定在原有現有的狀況之下增加班次嘛\n\n04:44.720 --> 04:52.634\n目前我們正在跟台鐵討論這個問題我也認為那個地方需要增加對號車次那我們也跟台鐵正在溝通當中\n\n04:53.530 --> 05:13.501\n好,我希望你是一個有效率的部長不要說當成...我告訴你,兩年了,我剛剛提到了,這不只兩年你在當議員的時候,我們就一直...你也曾經協助地方在推動這個大慶烏日高價化可是你當了部長了,你就應該更用力的來推動啦我現在很用力了,現在也需要台中市政府配合\n\n05:14.221 --> 05:40.220\n委員您家人在台中市政府的影響力應該也不小是不是可以拜託他們幫忙一下提出這些經費的問題民意代表不管是議員議會全力在協助部長我們不要在這裡這樣讀來讀去一定會努力做交通部不能做我們就來做事情好這個烏日高鐵這個娛樂城我想大家知道現在最大的一個這個開發區在台中的烏日高鐵\n\n05:41.155 --> 06:04.195\n那這個高鐵業城總開發金額超過260億那基地面積超過15公頃那我想周邊的交通絕對是會超過負荷上次我在這邊質詢院長跟部長的時候你有提過說要組成專案小組那但是我跟交通部要的資料發現說第一次開會的時候高鐵公司居然沒有被放在出席單位啦那會議結論是\n\n06:06.389 --> 06:29.743\n請將台灣高鐵公司納入專案小組會議成員所以我在想說這是不是我們高鐵公司出什麼問題是融資鬆了還是出現什麼問題那成立這個專案小組也是部長院長部長當時的承諾那這個專案小組是要來解決相關問題的而不是一個應付的一個型態所以我想要請部長院長\n\n06:31.744 --> 06:43.128\n我們在這邊做一個承諾未來的會議結論也可以提供給本席辦公室那是不是也可以讓本院的委員來參與會議一起幫烏日解決問題院長部長可不可以這個已經是去年的會議紀錄了\n\n06:50.083 --> 07:11.493\n那去年到現在這幾個月下來,應該當中都有按部就班在進行相關的討論我現在問你嘛,當初高鐵第一次會議竟然沒有被納入,不是出席,沒有被放入出席單位嘛這第一次嘛,後面這要開幾次就改回啊,那開了這麼多次會,回到問題本身啦齁\n\n07:12.827 --> 07:40.762\n到底怎麼樣才可以舒緩這些交通啦不論是在國道1號偵測閘道還是優化台7的視線讓進入高鐵站區跟進入漁獄城的車輛分流又或者是在烏日閘道、王田交流道的優化還是舒緩這些都是對於舒緩高鐵特區未來可能面臨的擁捨問題不然我現在已經可以預期就是說每逢假日車輛從停運道路會回乳到高架上啦這是肯定會發生的啦\n\n07:42.445 --> 07:50.165\n我在這邊跟院長部長詳細講一下有兩個方向第一個就是設法增加平面道路的容量\n\n07:51.343 --> 08:11.048\n那第二個就是快速高速快速道路增加閘道那第一點台中市政府也正在努力主要就是要將目前高鐵五路調整成左轉的單行道這個部長你就清楚了高鐵五路左轉要上這個高鐵的這個乘客這個高鐵站\n\n08:12.528 --> 08:30.616\n這樣子的話可以再來就是高鐵路二段跟三段的分隔島打除可以增加路幅還有增加這個行車空間那第三個就是高鐵五路打通輪子巷打通輪子巷然後銜接這個學鐵路但是這個案子會貫穿\n\n08:32.887 --> 08:58.126\n穿越這個國道1號與高工局相關這個部分那第二點就是中央應該出力協助的台七四線閘道拓寬國道1號銜接高鐵特區台七四線有這個預留斷面是不是可以直接銜接至高鐵站二樓下課區我要強調建議這個拓寬台七四線閘道提升下閘道往高鐵站的紓解效率\n\n08:58.846 --> 09:13.264\n有三項建議因為這個要做的事情太多了第一個就是高鐵東路的閘道由一車道變成三車道我們下閘道的那部分部長你今天早上我們一起搭高鐵上來你很清楚回堵都回堵在那裡\n\n09:14.195 --> 09:30.613\n那第二個就是拓寬長度是110米這個部分可以增加儲車空間下閘道車輛可以提早分流可以提升這個右轉來舒緩這個右轉的效率我再強調一次就是說鐵道局的促參案\n\n09:31.994 --> 09:52.323\n中央不應該置身事外朝向這兩大方向中央地方都應該要齊心努力共同努力那相關的法規在我剛剛提到的三個方案請問何時可以提供本席這個初步評估的結果報告委員中央沒有置身事外副院長也相當關心我跟副院長也開過會討論過這個問題\n\n09:54.400 --> 10:17.883\n那鐵道局也召開過三次的會議,您也應該相當的清楚所以從來沒有置身事外這件事那第二,您所提的這幾個建議都是我們當時在會議當中大家都有討論到的那目前也都在研議的過程不過有一些是市政府必須要去做的努力那市政府就去做但是中央該做的包含委員您剛剛有提到這個高速公路要不要設閘道的部分\n\n10:18.283 --> 10:46.296\n中央也會協助來補助地方政府來做這個可行性的研究那如果做出來是可行的我們當然就會來做副院長我們江啟臣副院長4月24號召集我們台中市的委員還有市政府還有交通部鐵道局也有參加鐵道局當天有承諾說要有答應補助這個研究經費研究案的研究經費那什麼時候可以補助他們要先提出申請我們就會盡快補助\n\n10:48.103 --> 11:11.133\n都已經提出申請了怎麼沒有提出申請上次的決議是希望他們提出申請沒有4月24號我們已經在副院長我們所邀請的這個地方的一個在高鐵站那個案子當場我們那個鐵道局承諾要盡速的來撥補就是來提供這個經費院長部長我想我們都要\n\n11:12.697 --> 11:20.742\n盡力的來協助好不好我們不要裝空外不要這樣子都好像沒有在online的樣子那我想再來再請教就是說\n\n11:22.076 --> 11:47.296\n台中市4月27號在巷上又發生了重大車禍那一輛連結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡衝撞20多輛汽機車造成多人輕重傷沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生短中長期計畫我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善我從2013年上任之後提案興建大渡和美大橋\n\n11:48.342 --> 12:02.314\n那原因就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路的大型車的車流如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道未來也可以來嚴禮禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段\n\n12:02.881 --> 12:20.363\n那直接經由國道3號銜接這個河北交流道後透過河北大橋來進入台中港區那我想當地部長你也很熟悉啦那目前我們已經請市府朝深圳線道路的目標來改善那目前有因為\n\n12:21.397 --> 12:41.885\n向上路從圓圓路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段短程的高架也沒有辦法去緩解下坡路段的情況所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究\n\n12:43.586 --> 12:54.993\n但是我們在109年但是因為這個是內政部國土署因為是都市計畫道路那內政部國土署也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費\n\n12:56.335 --> 13:16.723\n109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的這個高架部分當時出估經費就已經將近40億那按照這些年的這些通膨還有上漲的程度我想超過6年了這些造價可能會超過50億而且還只是銜接到中興橋如果延伸到台61線\n\n13:18.243 --> 13:42.472\n這些經費可能要兩倍以上所以在這邊要先請院長、部長承諾願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台六十一線的這樣子的可能性院長跟部長願不願意承諾這兩件事情就是說向上路這個車禍我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌標線等等要做好那減少這種安全上的顧慮\n\n13:43.112 --> 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怎麼沒有提出申請上次的決議是希望他們提出申請沒有 4月24號我們已經在副院長我們所邀請的這個地方的一個在高鐵站那個案子 當場我們那個鐵道局承諾要盡速的來撥補就是來提供這個經費院長部長 我想我們都要"},{"start":672.697,"end":680.742,"text":"盡力的來協助好不好我們不要裝空外不要這樣子都好像沒有在online的樣子那我想再來再請教就是說"},{"start":682.076,"end":707.296,"text":"台中市4月27號在巷上又發生了重大車禍那一輛連結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡衝撞20多輛汽機車造成多人輕重傷沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生短中長期計畫我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善我從2013年上任之後提案興建大渡和美大橋"},{"start":708.342,"end":722.314,"text":"那原因就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路的大型車的車流如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道未來也可以來嚴禮禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段"},{"start":722.881,"end":740.363,"text":"那直接經由國道3號銜接這個河北交流道後透過河北大橋來進入台中港區那我想當地部長你也很熟悉啦那目前我們已經請市府朝深圳線道路的目標來改善那目前有因為"},{"start":741.397,"end":761.885,"text":"向上路從圓圓路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段短程的高架也沒有辦法去緩解下坡路段的情況所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究"},{"start":763.586,"end":774.993,"text":"但是我們在109年但是因為這個是內政部國土署因為是都市計畫道路那內政部國土署也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費"},{"start":776.335,"end":796.723,"text":"109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的這個高架部分當時出估經費就已經將近40億那按照這些年的這些通膨還有上漲的程度我想超過6年了這些造價可能會超過50億而且還只是銜接到中興橋如果延伸到台61線"},{"start":798.243,"end":822.472,"text":"這些經費可能要兩倍以上所以在這邊要先請院長、部長承諾願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台六十一線的這樣子的可能性院長跟部長願不願意承諾這兩件事情就是說向上路這個車禍我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌標線等等要做好那減少這種安全上的顧慮"},{"start":823.112,"end":850.763,"text":"那至於說台61線好像跟這裡的距離還是有一點那未來要做什麼樣的評估因為向上路發生車禍不是今年這是從過去到現在已經發生很多次我們貴院何新淳委員也到現場去會堪但是他提的方案也是過去不管是交通局或者是這些裁判機構都有做出相同的一些處理那所以這個部分其實大家都已經"},{"start":852.063,"end":876.348,"text":"所有的應用方式都有已經討論過區段測速任何方式都有討論過所以這個部分我想進入高價的這樣的計畫的引領才是主要的方向所以從現在兩個一個是延伸台六十一線那因為如果說只延伸到所謂的中心橋短短的四公里就預算就將近四十億而且這還是六年前的估算"},{"start":877.068,"end":886.052,"text":"那未來如果你現在去算應該會超過五十億啦那如果延伸到台六十一線那個經費更加龐大所以這邊一定要這個台中市沒辦法獨立完成一定要請院長部長來盡力的協助好不好因為我時間有限那我進入下一個本席因為這個收到大客車整體產業公會的陳情他主要陳情的內容是因為政府已經"},{"start":901.238,"end":927.982,"text":"以規定全面採用六期環保高安全標準車那業者希望政府進一步補助來提供政策誘因來減輕購車負擔避免影響這個市場購車意願那在不影響用車安全的情況下希望交通部能夠聽到大客車業者的心聲那當然第一個主要一個核心就是民眾的安全第一民眾的安全第一我們就來協助大客車整體這些公會他們的"},{"start":1012.268,"end":1012.729,"text":"好 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line的樣子啦！","再請教，臺中市4月27號在向上路又發生了重大車禍，一輛聯結車因為煞車失靈衝下斜坡，衝撞二十多輛汽、機車，造成多人輕重傷。我想沒有人願意看到這些意外的發生，短、中、長期計畫，我們也都向市府提出建議來逐步改善，我從2013年上任之後提案興建大肚和美大橋，就是希望透過和美大橋來分散向上路大型車的車流，如果有和美大橋作為聯絡道，未來也可以研擬禁止這些大型重車向西行駛本路段，直接經由國道三號銜接和美交流道後，透過和美大橋來進入臺中港區。部長，我想當地你很熟悉啦！我們已經請市府朝生活圈道路的目標來改善，目前因為向上路從遊園路一直到中興橋這個部分是三級陡坡，下交流道後一直到沙田路都是下坡路段，短程的高架也沒有辦法緩解下坡路段的情況，所以目前請市府朝向銜接台61線的可能性研究。因為都市計畫道路是內政部國土署管理的，也希望院長能夠指示國土署全力來協助本案的經費，109年市府評估向上路至中興橋總長4公里的高架部分，當時初估經費就已經將近四十億，按照這些年的通膨還有上漲的程度，超過六年了，我想這些造價可能會超過五十億，而且還只是銜接到中興橋，如果延伸到台61線，這些經費可能要兩倍以上。所以要先請院長、部長承諾，願意協助整個向上路高架延伸段到台61線這樣子的可能性。院長跟部長能不能承諾？"],["卓院長榮泰：這是兩件事情，向上路這個車禍，我覺得地方政府要趕快把它的交通號誌、標線等等要做好，減少這種安全上的顧慮。至於台61線跟這裡的距離還是有一點……未來要做怎麼樣的評估……"],["顏委員寬恒：院長，我跟你報告，因為向上路發生車禍不只是今年，從過去到現在已經發生很多次，我們何欣純委員也到現場去會勘，但是他提的方案，過去不管是交通局或者是這些裁罰機構都有做出一些相同的處理，所以這個部分其實大家就所有的因應方式都已經討論過，包含區段測速等任何方式都有討論過。但我想這個部分，進入高架計畫的研擬才是主要的方向啦，所以現在有兩個作法，一個是延伸台61線，因為如果只延伸到所謂的中興橋，短短的4公里預算就將近四十億，而且這還是6年前的估算，如果以現在計算未來，應該會超過五十億啦！如果延伸到台61線那個經費更加龐大，所以臺中市沒辦法獨立完成，一定要請院長、部長盡力的協助，好不好？因為我時間有限，我進入下一個議題。","本席收到大客車整體產業公會的陳情，主要陳情內容是因應政府已規定全面採用六期環保高安全標準車，業者希望政府進一步補助，提供政策誘因、減輕購車負擔，避免影響市場購車意願，在不影響用車安全的情況下，希望交通部能夠聽到大客車業者的心聲。當然，主要的核心就是民眾安全第一啦！民眾安全第一，我們就來協助大客車整體公會他們的訴求。我要請院長跟部長針對大客車產業公會的陳情，他們主要有兩點訴求，第一個就是將六期環保車的新車使用年限提高5年，這是第一項，不然就跟其他舊車的年限一樣，沒有誘因啦！第二點，關於修法，因為年滿15年以上老車換新車的貨物稅可以抵免，可以直接免徵，但是因為通膨，現在一部車都要一千多萬以上，我們現在法律規定獎勵貨物稅可以免徵40萬，可是現在新車的貨物稅因為通膨的關係，新車的價位更高，甚至現在已經遠遠超過兩倍以上。","根據貨物稅條例第十二條之六的規定，要符合95年以前出廠的車輛才可以符合貨物稅免徵，然而符合的車輛幾乎已經少之又少，這個要進入修法，我要請院長、部長同意協助並召開相關會議，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：貨物稅的部分，我們會另案辦理。對於延長新車使用期間，我想基於行車安全的大前提，需要再請交通部來研議。"],["顏委員寬恒：當然，行車安全是最重要的。"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["顏委員寬恒：請院長跟部長協助。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝。"],["主席：好，謝謝顏委員，謝謝卓院長。剛才顏委員提到高鐵臺中站周邊交通改善的問題，的確刻不容緩，謝謝部長當時同意成立中央及地方的檢討小組，我們希望改善速度能夠再加快一點，謝謝。","下一位請陳玉珍委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":218,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-10","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","陳超明","黃建賓","魯明哲","顏寬恒","陳玉珍","林倩綺","林沛祥","黃國昌","林國成","李昆澤","林月琴","賴士葆","黃秀芳","王正旭","盧縣一","李彥秀","楊曜","麥玉珍","廖偉翔","陳菁徽","林淑芬","馬文君","邱若華","蘇巧慧"],"page_start":117,"meetingDate":["2025-05-06"],"gazette_id":"1144201","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1144201_00004","1144201_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第10次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 詢答完畢─","agenda_id":"1144201_00004"}}}