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00:02:04,275\n那時間是在8月2號到8月20號這個範圍內在兩個場地辦然後我覺得我們很不錯就是很早就去跟日本單地的政府接觸然後有些名稱我們就用我們單地的這個日本文化中心去接觸那幾乎是動員到全台灣所有藝文的可能性表演的音樂的演唱會還有這個\n\n7\n00:02:06,617 --> 00:02:18,991\n繪本漫畫幾乎動員到所有台灣能夠表達台灣文化的特色那台灣文化有什麼特色呢就是我們的包容多元融合我們的設計的Logo是一個史萊姆那樣的東西非常可愛它隨時可以\n\n8\n00:02:24,797 --> 00:02:47,526\n變形然後吸收別人的文化等等我預期它會效果非常好至於你剛剛講的經濟部那個或者外交部其實我們都有聯絡希望它是一個整個團隊在做的好很好我想除了萬博會以外這個大家持續期待也希望大家民眾也都可以一起參與那本席認為另外一個非常需要好好宣傳的其實就是我們的國片\n\n9\n00:02:48,746 --> 00:03:05,956\n那部長您上任至今呢一直我是沒有機會跟您談談國片政策構想還有相關的撥話那前幾天有看到您出席這個國片的宣傳造勢活動在致詞當中您有提到聽到國片起飛這四個字心中不免泛起一絲感傷因為這句話您聽了很久\n\n10\n00:03:08,757 --> 00:03:15,118\n這個甚至在20多歲的時候變投身這個電影產業希望能夠讓國片真正的起飛我身為國粉這個不是蘋果的果是國片粉其實對於這樣的一句話其實也是非常感同身受的但是我想您就任也將近一年了其實文化部的電影年報的統計數據我們去年國片的市場是大幅衰退的我想43%的衰退真的可以說是大幅近乎腰斬\n\n11\n00:03:37,862 --> 00:03:44,849\n到2024年剩下263萬人次想請教部長您對自己對提振國片的表現打幾分\n\n12\n00:03:46,752 --> 00:04:15,221\n整體來講那個大家都知道關於電影的衰退是因為OTT平台起來以後大家觀影的那個習慣改變所以整體來講國片本身的確總營業額是下降但是它佔在整個台灣的電影的比例是增加的前年大概是佔全台灣的營業額是7%去年是11%這點我當然是非常焦慮所以必須由政府提供一些投資或者是輔導\n\n13\n00:04:16,962 --> 00:04:36,033\n讓這個產業不能夠消失沒錯我想不能說OTT這樣子我們就放手因為確實您講的這個結果也很棒占比是增加的但是我們還是要有中長期的規劃我們不要被這個短期的狀況打亂正腳那我們本席有向文化部所知想要了解部長對於我國片發展的中長程規劃到底是什麼\n\n14\n00:04:37,915 --> 00:04:51,095\n結果文化部的同仁是用一面A4紙拿來給我們做一個回應部長您可以看一下我不確定這份A4你有沒有看過這是我們的國片起飛的中長程規劃嗎\n\n15\n00:04:52,958 --> 00:05:11,816\n事實上我們其實非常驚訝裡面呢這個一共只有407個字我想您是電影人用這樣的一個方式來帶領國片起飛這會不會變成在您的任內變成口號我相信不會我是您的忠實影迷我剛剛也說了我是國粉我們不希望這種態度去影響我們的國片發展\n\n16\n00:05:14,378 --> 00:05:35,419\n文化部會後能不能提供一份完整的部長對於台灣國片發展的中長期規劃我相信你們有可不可以提供給本席辦公室不然這個407個字說是我們國片中長期規劃我覺得有點太精華了齁這個沒問題啊因為我們這個七點是一個大概的每一個項目我們有非常仔細的那個\n\n17\n00:05:36,912 --> 00:06:03,934\n甚至於輔導政策的調整那為什麼我們問的時候不能提供完整的不是它太多啦它項目太多我們很有時間閱讀因為這是我們的工作好不好請文化部同仁一起配合我事後馬上提供那我想接下來啦關稅的議題大家也很關心那我想我們這一次的談判代表團呢帶隊的是鄭麗君副院長她過去也是前文化部的部長那我們想要請教一下部長有沒有參與行政院對美關稅談判小組\n\n18\n00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:24,781\n這個部分真的是沒有因為文化產業在目前這一波裡面並沒有被列入但是因為最近因為川普的一句話我們就超前部署各部門已經開始討論未來有可能包括電影100%的這種進入美國等等這些我們就開始做一些預備\n\n19\n00:06:25,802 --> 00:06:37,228\n沒錯我想部長您應該也可以發現台灣對美國來講可以說是一個不折不扣的電影入超大國我們也幫忙整理了美國電影在台灣上映的情況這個數字琳瑯滿目2025年光第一季四分之一就99部收入也不錯\n\n20\n00:06:45,272 --> 00:06:51,213\n這個美國說他們都沒有賺我們的錢我們賺他很多錢他賺我們很多錢在數位的在文化上面結果我們台灣根本沒有賣過去我先講我要給這幾部賣到美國的拍拍手謝謝文化部支持但是我們今年還是目前為止掛鈴的但是這些數據都可以幫助我們的行政院在跟美國關稅談判的時候去講說我們台灣買你很多東西你買了你的文化\n\n21\n00:07:13,198 --> 00:07:18,741\n買了你的內容啊不僅如此啦我們就發現我們這一次的特別條例我們的執行部會裡面完全沒有文化部4100億裡面完全沒有文化部難道我們的關稅變局我們的匯率的這個波動就不會影響到文化人嗎就不會影響到文化產業嗎我想我作為一個再講一次我作為一個國粉我作為一個關心台灣文化的人我相信我們都很關心我想要請教一下\n\n22\n00:07:41,792 --> 00:07:57,931\n这个相关的这个特别条例我们能不能列入进去能不能争取一下然后呢我们现在又看到有这个川普的这个电影税要进来了我们中长期的发展里面有一大堆都提到了这个拓展国外的\n\n23\n00:07:58,291 --> 00:08:09,993\n海外市場這個跨國合資合智全部都是在走這個路線啊那所以現在川普這件事情假設成真我們中長期規劃可能還要修改因為他來台灣做反而變貴了我們去跟他合作他可能不願意全部連電影都要美國製造了所以文化可能會遇到所有跟科技業電子業一樣的問題有沒有要做調整能不能去爭取一下列入特別條例\n\n24\n00:08:24,758 --> 00:08:51,246\n其實你講到這一點它這個真的會影響到我們整個產業2001年WTO美國電影全面進台灣的時候我們國片甚至於跌到佔全部電影的0.3%連1%都不到2001年WTO2003年的時候我們已經跌到1%都不到國片甚至於已經被消滅到2011年的時候\n\n25\n00:08:53,327 --> 00:09:07,463\n國變整個又復甦佔百分之十六所以我在這裡要替台灣的電影人講話就是我們完全靠自己努力地突破這個所以您剛才講的是講到我的心裡的要害就是文化產業\n\n26\n00:09:08,684 --> 00:09:14,329\n並沒有被列入第一波所以我剛剛已經講到我們超前部署我們其實開過很多會就是開始把未來有可能跟美國之間涉及到這樣子的文創產業的一些可能發生的狀況更了解\n\n27\n00:09:24,176 --> 00:09:35,403\n上次我幫王十四次長向經濟部喊話不要忽略我們文化部我們幫你們向行政院卓院長喊話不要忽略我們文化部不要忽略文化為什麼因為這張圖我幫你整理了我們現在電子業科技業我們的實體貿易的第一大的對象是中國大陸第二大是美洲美國文化的情況一模一樣我們的電影的產業海外收入來源一樣第一大\n\n28\n00:09:49,372 --> 00:09:56,520\n是我們的中國大陸第二大就是美洲所以如果美國在關稅或全世界關稅有這個變動的時候我們的文化產業是會有變化的我們一起努力最後一個地方也還是要再請教一下部長最後一塊主題就是我們的主權AI我先非常謝謝文化部之前我們質詢說YouTube繁體中文出不來\n\n29\n00:10:12,256 --> 00:10:24,326\n相信應該是文化部有去幫忙溝通一下現在修復了雖然上不完美但持續改進真的非常的感謝但是我想現在的大語言模型AI的工具都有簡體中文覆蓋的問題因為他們讀了十倍甚至百倍以上的簡體資料我們繁中資料不足我在總質詢在許多部會都提到我們應該要有國家層級的AI訓練資料庫\n\n30\n00:10:37,677 --> 00:10:58,218\n那速發部呢有著手在訂定所謂的台灣語料訓練資料庫的授權條款我想請教第一點這個部長讚不讚同有這樣的一個AI訓練資料的資料庫讚成啊太好了那我想問速發部在著手制定這個台灣語料的訓練資料庫有沒有跟您徵詢文化部的意見\n\n31\n00:10:58,999 --> 00:11:26,389\n有而且我們已經開始進行整理文化部的東西其實非常多那我們其實還看到有一個寶庫叫做中央社其實中央社社長有跟我們來溝通說他有非常多的語料資料歷史的內容可是我們最近看到中央社的方向好像有點多頭馬車好像一下又說要做電視台一下又要做文化內容我想請教文化部部長中央社的定位到底要是什麼\n\n32\n00:11:27,543 --> 00:11:45,154\n中央社會作為一個歷史悠久的媒體它有兩個很重要的任務一個任務就是它本身的資料保存是非常完整的所以你剛才講到AI這個部分它的確是深負重任第二個它是代表國家的媒體它必須向國外發聲\n\n33\n00:11:48,118 --> 00:12:14,148\n國外的駐點然後國外宣揚台灣的所有狀態所以中央社責任是蠻重大所以他到底是文字媒體還是網路媒體他現在YouTube也做還是電視台他現在好像說要做中央社電視台這個太分散了會不會力量不集中根據我了解以前中央社就有做一部分YouTube大概是因為目前大家在瀏覽的情況下還是很習慣看這種影音的\n\n34\n00:12:14,648 --> 00:12:35,984\n他只要不再違反我們本身中央社原來做的事情的話這個部分我不知道結果會如何但是我一再跟你跟委員強調中央社它最大的任務就這兩個嘛好這個朝偉已經站起來了希望我們能夠一起加速國家級AI訓練資料庫的設立我希望文化部持續有跟速發部來交流\n\n35\n00:12:37,185 --> 00:12:56,578\n把交流結果三個月內以書面提供給本席我們真的非常關心最後提醒部長啦我們的公眾的錢好像下一頁不見了沒關係我們公眾的錢呢就是應該要給公眾publicmoneypublicknowledge我們的相關的資料歷史的內容文化的內容我們希望讓AI來訓練讓全世界的AI都有台灣語料台灣資料\n\n36\n00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:16,878\n當然也才會有台灣價值我們的主權才能夠確立這樣可以嗎是文化主權應該是我們文化部最重要的一個任務讓台灣有文化主權的方式就是您剛才講的AI的內容這點我非常同意我們也會努力做謝謝謝謝召委謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n11940\t16667\t好 謝謝主席 有請文化部理院部長好 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融合我們的設計的Logo是一個史萊姆那樣的東西非常可愛它隨時可以\n144797\t167526\t變形然後吸收別人的文化等等我預期它會效果非常好至於你剛剛講的經濟部那個或者外交部其實我們都有聯絡希望它是一個整個團隊在做的好很好我想除了萬博會以外這個大家持續期待也希望大家民眾也都可以一起參與那本席認為另外一個非常需要好好宣傳的其實就是我們的國片\n168746\t185956\t那部長您上任至今呢一直我是沒有機會跟您談談國片政策構想還有相關的撥話那前幾天有看到您出席這個國片的宣傳造勢活動在致詞當中您有提到聽到國片起飛這四個字心中不免泛起一絲感傷因為這句話您聽了很久\n188757\t195118\t這個甚至在20多歲的時候變投身這個電影產業希望能夠讓國片真正的起飛我身為國粉這個不是蘋果的果是國片粉其實對於這樣的一句話其實也是非常感同身受的但是我想您就任也將近一年了其實文化部的電影年報的統計數據我們去年國片的市場是大幅衰退的我想43%的衰退真的可以說是大幅近乎腰斬\n217862\t224849\t到2024年剩下263萬人次想請教部長您對自己對提振國片的表現打幾分\n226752\t255221\t整體來講那個大家都知道關於電影的衰退是因為OTT平台起來以後大家觀影的那個習慣改變所以整體來講國片本身的確總營業額是下降但是它佔在整個台灣的電影的比例是增加的前年大概是佔全台灣的營業額是7%去年是11%這點我當然是非常焦慮所以必須由政府提供一些投資或者是輔導\n256962\t276033\t讓這個產業不能夠消失沒錯我想不能說OTT這樣子我們就放手因為確實您講的這個結果也很棒占比是增加的但是我們還是要有中長期的規劃我們不要被這個短期的狀況打亂正腳那我們本席有向文化部所知想要了解部長對於我國片發展的中長程規劃到底是什麼\n277915\t291095\t結果文化部的同仁是用一面A4紙拿來給我們做一個回應部長您可以看一下我不確定這份A4你有沒有看過這是我們的國片起飛的中長程規劃嗎\n292958\t311816\t事實上我們其實非常驚訝裡面呢這個一共只有407個字我想您是電影人用這樣的一個方式來帶領國片起飛這會不會變成在您的任內變成口號我相信不會我是您的忠實影迷我剛剛也說了我是國粉我們不希望這種態度去影響我們的國片發展\n314378\t335419\t文化部會後能不能提供一份完整的部長對於台灣國片發展的中長期規劃我相信你們有可不可以提供給本席辦公室不然這個407個字說是我們國片中長期規劃我覺得有點太精華了齁這個沒問題啊因為我們這個七點是一個大概的每一個項目我們有非常仔細的那個\n336912\t363934\t甚至於輔導政策的調整那為什麼我們問的時候不能提供完整的不是 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佔百分之十六所以我在這裡要替台灣的電影人講話就是我們完全靠自己 努力地突破這個所以您剛才講的是 講到我的心裡的要害就是文化產業\n548684\t554329\t並沒有被列入第一波所以我剛剛已經講到我們超前部署我們其實開過很多會就是開始把未來有可能跟美國之間涉及到這樣子的文創產業的一些可能發生的狀況更了解\n564176\t575403\t上次我幫王十四次長向經濟部喊話不要忽略我們文化部我們幫你們向行政院卓院長喊話不要忽略我們文化部不要忽略文化為什麼因為這張圖我幫你整理了我們現在電子業科技業我們的實體貿易的第一大的對象是中國大陸第二大是美洲美國文化的情況一模一樣我們的電影的產業海外收入來源一樣第一大\n589372\t596520\t是我們的中國大陸第二大就是美洲所以如果美國在關稅或全世界關稅有這個變動的時候我們的文化產業是會有變化的我們一起努力最後一個地方也還是要再請教一下部長最後一塊主題就是我們的主權AI我先非常謝謝文化部之前我們質詢說YouTube繁體中文出不來\n612256\t624326\t相信應該是文化部有去幫忙溝通一下現在修復了雖然上不完美但持續改進真的非常的感謝但是我想現在的大語言模型AI的工具都有簡體中文覆蓋的問題因為他們讀了十倍甚至百倍以上的簡體資料我們繁中資料不足我在總質詢在許多部會都提到我們應該要有國家層級的AI訓練資料庫\n637677\t658218\t那速發部呢有著手在訂定所謂的台灣語料訓練資料庫的授權條款我想請教第一點這個部長讚不讚同有這樣的一個AI訓練資料的資料庫讚成啊太好了那我想問速發部在著手制定這個台灣語料的訓練資料庫有沒有跟您徵詢文化部的意見\n658999\t686389\t有 而且我們已經開始進行整理文化部的東西其實非常多那我們其實還看到有一個寶庫叫做中央社其實中央社社長有跟我們來溝通說他有非常多的語料資料歷史的內容可是我們最近看到中央社的方向好像有點多頭馬車好像一下又說要做電視台一下又要做文化內容我想請教文化部部長中央社的定位到底要是什麼\n687543\t705154\t中央社會作為一個歷史悠久的媒體它有兩個很重要的任務一個任務就是它本身的資料保存是非常完整的所以你剛才講到AI這個部分它的確是深負重任第二個它是代表國家的媒體它必須向國外發聲\n708118\t734148\t國外的駐點 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有請李部長\n委員你好部長好今天非常感謝趙偉排今天的相關的議程我想我們現在因應到關稅的變局我們的匯率大幅的波動台灣有可能在這個時間點真的是變窮了所以我想我們相關的預算相關的說明我們都積極的來進行\n那再來我想要請教一下部長就也跟您說明一下其實大阪萬博已經在4月13號開幕那上一次本席有質詢王實施次長當時有跟次長一起呼籲我們的經濟部不要忽略了我們文化部也是有出錢出力的這個我們文化部這一次光是勞務財務\n就花費了將近兩千萬大概一千九百多萬這個雖然文化部呢八月才要赴日參展但是既然錢已經花了就必須要達到我們台灣的文化宣傳的效果那既然經濟部好像我們是最近都沒有看到有更多的曝光那我想也許背後是不是經濟部忘了給還是不給機會沒有關係本席希望在此給部長三十秒的時間宣傳一下萬博這個大阪萬博的展覽的這樣的一個文化部的參與啦\n是不是請布展的重點的這個部分呢簡要的向國內外的媒體朋友還有有興趣的民眾做個簡短的說明\n那時間是在8月2號到8月20號這個範圍內在兩個場地辦然後我覺得我們很不錯就是很早就去跟日本單地的政府接觸然後有些名稱我們就用我們單地的這個日本文化中心去接觸那幾乎是動員到全台灣所有藝文的可能性表演的音樂的演唱會還有這個\n繪本漫畫幾乎動員到所有台灣能夠表達台灣文化的特色那台灣文化有什麼特色呢就是我們的包容 多元 融合我們的設計的Logo是一個史萊姆那樣的東西非常可愛它隨時可以\n變形然後吸收別人的文化等等我預期它會效果非常好至於你剛剛講的經濟部那個或者外交部其實我們都有聯絡希望它是一個整個團隊在做的好很好我想除了萬博會以外這個大家持續期待也希望大家民眾也都可以一起參與那本席認為另外一個非常需要好好宣傳的其實就是我們的國片\n那部長您上任至今呢一直我是沒有機會跟您談談國片政策構想還有相關的撥話那前幾天有看到您出席這個國片的宣傳造勢活動在致詞當中您有提到聽到國片起飛這四個字心中不免泛起一絲感傷因為這句話您聽了很久\n這個甚至在20多歲的時候變投身這個電影產業希望能夠讓國片真正的起飛我身為國粉這個不是蘋果的果是國片粉其實對於這樣的一句話其實也是非常感同身受的但是我想您就任也將近一年了其實文化部的電影年報的統計數據我們去年國片的市場是大幅衰退的我想43%的衰退真的可以說是大幅近乎腰斬\n到2024年剩下263萬人次想請教部長您對自己對提振國片的表現打幾分\n整體來講那個大家都知道關於電影的衰退是因為OTT平台起來以後大家觀影的那個習慣改變所以整體來講國片本身的確總營業額是下降但是它佔在整個台灣的電影的比例是增加的前年大概是佔全台灣的營業額是7%去年是11%這點我當然是非常焦慮所以必須由政府提供一些投資或者是輔導\n讓這個產業不能夠消失沒錯我想不能說OTT這樣子我們就放手因為確實您講的這個結果也很棒占比是增加的但是我們還是要有中長期的規劃我們不要被這個短期的狀況打亂正腳那我們本席有向文化部所知想要了解部長對於我國片發展的中長程規劃到底是什麼\n結果文化部的同仁是用一面A4紙拿來給我們做一個回應部長您可以看一下我不確定這份A4你有沒有看過這是我們的國片起飛的中長程規劃嗎\n事實上我們其實非常驚訝裡面呢這個一共只有407個字我想您是電影人用這樣的一個方式來帶領國片起飛這會不會變成在您的任內變成口號我相信不會我是您的忠實影迷我剛剛也說了我是國粉我們不希望這種態度去影響我們的國片發展\n文化部會後能不能提供一份完整的部長對於台灣國片發展的中長期規劃我相信你們有可不可以提供給本席辦公室不然這個407個字說是我們國片中長期規劃我覺得有點太精華了齁這個沒問題啊因為我們這個七點是一個大概的每一個項目我們有非常仔細的那個\n甚至於輔導政策的調整那為什麼我們問的時候不能提供完整的不是 它太多啦它項目太多我們很有時間閱讀因為這是我們的工作好不好請文化部同仁一起配合我事後馬上提供那我想接下來啦關稅的議題大家也很關心那我想我們這一次的談判代表團呢帶隊的是鄭麗君副院長她過去也是前文化部的部長那我們想要請教一下部長有沒有參與行政院對美關稅談判小組\n這個部分真的是沒有因為文化產業在目前這一波裡面並沒有被列入但是因為最近因為川普的一句話我們就超前部署各部門已經開始討論未來有可能包括電影100%的這種進入美國等等這些我們就開始做一些預備\n沒錯我想部長您應該也可以發現台灣對美國來講可以說是一個不折不扣的電影入超大國我們也幫忙整理了美國電影在台灣上映的情況這個數字琳瑯滿目2025年光第一季四分之一就99部收入也不錯\n這個美國說他們都沒有賺我們的錢我們賺他很多錢他賺我們很多錢在數位的在文化上面結果我們台灣根本沒有賣過去我先講我要給這幾部賣到美國的拍拍手謝謝文化部支持但是我們今年還是目前為止掛鈴的但是這些數據都可以幫助我們的行政院在跟美國關稅談判的時候去講說我們台灣買你很多東西你買了你的文化\n買了你的內容啊不僅如此啦我們就發現我們這一次的特別條例我們的執行部會裡面完全沒有文化部4100億裡面完全沒有文化部難道我們的關稅變局我們的匯率的這個波動就不會影響到文化人嗎就不會影響到文化產業嗎我想我作為一個再講一次我作為一個國粉我作為一個關心台灣文化的人我相信我們都很關心我想要請教一下\n这个相关的这个特别条例我们能不能列入进去能不能争取一下然后呢我们现在又看到有这个川普的这个电影税要进来了我们中长期的发展里面有一大堆都提到了这个拓展国外的\n海外市場這個跨國合資合智全部都是在走這個路線啊那所以現在川普這件事情假設成真我們中長期規劃可能還要修改因為他來台灣做反而變貴了我們去跟他合作他可能不願意全部連電影都要美國製造了所以文化可能會遇到所有跟科技業電子業一樣的問題有沒有要做調整能不能去爭取一下列入特別條例\n其實你講到這一點它這個真的會影響到我們整個產業2001年WTO美國電影全面進台灣的時候我們國片甚至於跌到佔全部電影的0.3%連1%都不到2001年WTO2003年的時候我們已經跌到1%都不到國片甚至於已經被消滅到2011年的時候\n國變整個又復甦 佔百分之十六所以我在這裡要替台灣的電影人講話就是我們完全靠自己 努力地突破這個所以您剛才講的是 講到我的心裡的要害就是文化產業\n並沒有被列入第一波所以我剛剛已經講到我們超前部署我們其實開過很多會就是開始把未來有可能跟美國之間涉及到這樣子的文創產業的一些可能發生的狀況更了解\n上次我幫王十四次長向經濟部喊話不要忽略我們文化部我們幫你們向行政院卓院長喊話不要忽略我們文化部不要忽略文化為什麼因為這張圖我幫你整理了我們現在電子業科技業我們的實體貿易的第一大的對象是中國大陸第二大是美洲美國文化的情況一模一樣我們的電影的產業海外收入來源一樣第一大\n是我們的中國大陸第二大就是美洲所以如果美國在關稅或全世界關稅有這個變動的時候我們的文化產業是會有變化的我們一起努力最後一個地方也還是要再請教一下部長最後一塊主題就是我們的主權AI我先非常謝謝文化部之前我們質詢說YouTube繁體中文出不來\n相信應該是文化部有去幫忙溝通一下現在修復了雖然上不完美但持續改進真的非常的感謝但是我想現在的大語言模型AI的工具都有簡體中文覆蓋的問題因為他們讀了十倍甚至百倍以上的簡體資料我們繁中資料不足我在總質詢在許多部會都提到我們應該要有國家層級的AI訓練資料庫\n那速發部呢有著手在訂定所謂的台灣語料訓練資料庫的授權條款我想請教第一點這個部長讚不讚同有這樣的一個AI訓練資料的資料庫讚成啊太好了那我想問速發部在著手制定這個台灣語料的訓練資料庫有沒有跟您徵詢文化部的意見\n有 而且我們已經開始進行整理文化部的東西其實非常多那我們其實還看到有一個寶庫叫做中央社其實中央社社長有跟我們來溝通說他有非常多的語料資料歷史的內容可是我們最近看到中央社的方向好像有點多頭馬車好像一下又說要做電視台一下又要做文化內容我想請教文化部部長中央社的定位到底要是什麼\n中央社會作為一個歷史悠久的媒體它有兩個很重要的任務一個任務就是它本身的資料保存是非常完整的所以你剛才講到AI這個部分它的確是深負重任第二個它是代表國家的媒體它必須向國外發聲\n國外的駐點 然後國外宣揚台灣的所有狀態所以中央社責任是蠻重大所以他到底是文字媒體 還是網路媒體他現在YouTube也做 還是電視台他現在好像說要做中央社電視台這個太分散了 會不會力量不集中根據我了解 以前中央社就有做一部分YouTube大概是因為 目前大家在瀏覽的情況下還是很習慣看這種影音的\n他只要不再違反我們本身中央社原來做的事情的話這個部分我不知道結果會如何但是我一再跟你跟委員強調中央社它最大的任務就這兩個嘛好 這個朝偉已經站起來了希望我們能夠一起加速國家級AI訓練資料庫的設立我希望文化部持續有跟速發部來交流\n把交流結果三個月內以書面提供給本席我們真的非常關心最後提醒部長啦我們的公眾的錢好像下一頁不見了沒關係我們公眾的錢呢就是應該要給公眾public moneypublic knowledge我們的相關的資料歷史的內容文化的內容我們希望讓AI來訓練讓全世界的AI都有台灣語料台灣資料\n當然也才會有台灣價值我們的主權才能夠確立這樣可以嗎是 文化主權應該是我們文化部最重要的一個任務讓台灣有文化主權的方式就是您剛才講的AI的內容這點我非常同意我們也會努力做謝謝 謝謝召委 謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.940 --> 00:16.667\n好謝謝主席有請文化部理院部長好有請李部長\n\n00:21.994 --> 00:26.678\n委員你好部長好今天非常感謝趙偉排今天的相關的議程我想我們現在因應到關稅的變局我們的匯率大幅的波動台灣有可能在這個時間點真的是變窮了所以我想我們相關的預算相關的說明我們都積極的來進行\n\n00:42.392 --> 00:58.222\n那再來我想要請教一下部長就也跟您說明一下其實大阪萬博已經在4月13號開幕那上一次本席有質詢王實施次長當時有跟次長一起呼籲我們的經濟部不要忽略了我們文化部也是有出錢出力的這個我們文化部這一次光是勞務財務\n\n01:02.144 --> 01:20.478\n就花費了將近兩千萬大概一千九百多萬這個雖然文化部呢八月才要赴日參展但是既然錢已經花了就必須要達到我們台灣的文化宣傳的效果那既然經濟部好像我們是最近都沒有看到有更多的曝光那我想也許背後是不是經濟部忘了給還是不給機會沒有關係本席希望在此給部長三十秒的時間宣傳一下萬博這個大阪萬博的展覽的這樣的一個文化部的參與啦\n\n01:31.767 --> 01:37.091\n是不是請布展的重點的這個部分呢簡要的向國內外的媒體朋友還有有興趣的民眾做個簡短的說明\n\n01:39.673 --> 02:04.275\n那時間是在8月2號到8月20號這個範圍內在兩個場地辦然後我覺得我們很不錯就是很早就去跟日本單地的政府接觸然後有些名稱我們就用我們單地的這個日本文化中心去接觸那幾乎是動員到全台灣所有藝文的可能性表演的音樂的演唱會還有這個\n\n02:06.617 --> 02:18.991\n繪本漫畫幾乎動員到所有台灣能夠表達台灣文化的特色那台灣文化有什麼特色呢就是我們的包容多元融合我們的設計的Logo是一個史萊姆那樣的東西非常可愛它隨時可以\n\n02:24.797 --> 02:47.526\n變形然後吸收別人的文化等等我預期它會效果非常好至於你剛剛講的經濟部那個或者外交部其實我們都有聯絡希望它是一個整個團隊在做的好很好我想除了萬博會以外這個大家持續期待也希望大家民眾也都可以一起參與那本席認為另外一個非常需要好好宣傳的其實就是我們的國片\n\n02:48.746 --> 03:05.956\n那部長您上任至今呢一直我是沒有機會跟您談談國片政策構想還有相關的撥話那前幾天有看到您出席這個國片的宣傳造勢活動在致詞當中您有提到聽到國片起飛這四個字心中不免泛起一絲感傷因為這句話您聽了很久\n\n03:08.757 --> 03:15.118\n這個甚至在20多歲的時候變投身這個電影產業希望能夠讓國片真正的起飛我身為國粉這個不是蘋果的果是國片粉其實對於這樣的一句話其實也是非常感同身受的但是我想您就任也將近一年了其實文化部的電影年報的統計數據我們去年國片的市場是大幅衰退的我想43%的衰退真的可以說是大幅近乎腰斬\n\n03:37.862 --> 03:44.849\n到2024年剩下263萬人次想請教部長您對自己對提振國片的表現打幾分\n\n03:46.752 --> 04:15.221\n整體來講那個大家都知道關於電影的衰退是因為OTT平台起來以後大家觀影的那個習慣改變所以整體來講國片本身的確總營業額是下降但是它佔在整個台灣的電影的比例是增加的前年大概是佔全台灣的營業額是7%去年是11%這點我當然是非常焦慮所以必須由政府提供一些投資或者是輔導\n\n04:16.962 --> 04:36.033\n讓這個產業不能夠消失沒錯我想不能說OTT這樣子我們就放手因為確實您講的這個結果也很棒占比是增加的但是我們還是要有中長期的規劃我們不要被這個短期的狀況打亂正腳那我們本席有向文化部所知想要了解部長對於我國片發展的中長程規劃到底是什麼\n\n04:37.915 --> 04:51.095\n結果文化部的同仁是用一面A4紙拿來給我們做一個回應部長您可以看一下我不確定這份A4你有沒有看過這是我們的國片起飛的中長程規劃嗎\n\n04:52.958 --> 05:11.816\n事實上我們其實非常驚訝裡面呢這個一共只有407個字我想您是電影人用這樣的一個方式來帶領國片起飛這會不會變成在您的任內變成口號我相信不會我是您的忠實影迷我剛剛也說了我是國粉我們不希望這種態度去影響我們的國片發展\n\n05:14.378 --> 05:35.419\n文化部會後能不能提供一份完整的部長對於台灣國片發展的中長期規劃我相信你們有可不可以提供給本席辦公室不然這個407個字說是我們國片中長期規劃我覺得有點太精華了齁這個沒問題啊因為我們這個七點是一個大概的每一個項目我們有非常仔細的那個\n\n05:36.912 --> 06:03.934\n甚至於輔導政策的調整那為什麼我們問的時候不能提供完整的不是它太多啦它項目太多我們很有時間閱讀因為這是我們的工作好不好請文化部同仁一起配合我事後馬上提供那我想接下來啦關稅的議題大家也很關心那我想我們這一次的談判代表團呢帶隊的是鄭麗君副院長她過去也是前文化部的部長那我們想要請教一下部長有沒有參與行政院對美關稅談判小組\n\n06:07.060 --> 06:24.781\n這個部分真的是沒有因為文化產業在目前這一波裡面並沒有被列入但是因為最近因為川普的一句話我們就超前部署各部門已經開始討論未來有可能包括電影100%的這種進入美國等等這些我們就開始做一些預備\n\n06:25.802 --> 06:37.228\n沒錯我想部長您應該也可以發現台灣對美國來講可以說是一個不折不扣的電影入超大國我們也幫忙整理了美國電影在台灣上映的情況這個數字琳瑯滿目2025年光第一季四分之一就99部收入也不錯\n\n06:45.272 --> 06:51.213\n這個美國說他們都沒有賺我們的錢我們賺他很多錢他賺我們很多錢在數位的在文化上面結果我們台灣根本沒有賣過去我先講我要給這幾部賣到美國的拍拍手謝謝文化部支持但是我們今年還是目前為止掛鈴的但是這些數據都可以幫助我們的行政院在跟美國關稅談判的時候去講說我們台灣買你很多東西你買了你的文化\n\n07:13.198 --> 07:18.741\n買了你的內容啊不僅如此啦我們就發現我們這一次的特別條例我們的執行部會裡面完全沒有文化部4100億裡面完全沒有文化部難道我們的關稅變局我們的匯率的這個波動就不會影響到文化人嗎就不會影響到文化產業嗎我想我作為一個再講一次我作為一個國粉我作為一個關心台灣文化的人我相信我們都很關心我想要請教一下\n\n07:41.792 --> 07:57.931\n这个相关的这个特别条例我们能不能列入进去能不能争取一下然后呢我们现在又看到有这个川普的这个电影税要进来了我们中长期的发展里面有一大堆都提到了这个拓展国外的\n\n07:58.291 --> 08:09.993\n海外市場這個跨國合資合智全部都是在走這個路線啊那所以現在川普這件事情假設成真我們中長期規劃可能還要修改因為他來台灣做反而變貴了我們去跟他合作他可能不願意全部連電影都要美國製造了所以文化可能會遇到所有跟科技業電子業一樣的問題有沒有要做調整能不能去爭取一下列入特別條例\n\n08:24.758 --> 08:51.246\n其實你講到這一點它這個真的會影響到我們整個產業2001年WTO美國電影全面進台灣的時候我們國片甚至於跌到佔全部電影的0.3%連1%都不到2001年WTO2003年的時候我們已經跌到1%都不到國片甚至於已經被消滅到2011年的時候\n\n08:53.327 --> 09:07.463\n國變整個又復甦佔百分之十六所以我在這裡要替台灣的電影人講話就是我們完全靠自己努力地突破這個所以您剛才講的是講到我的心裡的要害就是文化產業\n\n09:08.684 --> 09:14.329\n並沒有被列入第一波所以我剛剛已經講到我們超前部署我們其實開過很多會就是開始把未來有可能跟美國之間涉及到這樣子的文創產業的一些可能發生的狀況更了解\n\n09:24.176 --> 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