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--> 00:00:31,682\n主席麻煩我們的警政署署長麻煩署長委員午安署長好那今天剛好法部部也在啦等一下有些問題可能要請法部部來做協助時間不多我直接切入重點請問署長每年性影像犯罪有多少案件有多少被害人\n\n2\n00:00:33,821 --> 00:00:49,025\n這個數據我手頭沒有這個數據,未來再適合來提供給我好,那我們就看,現象的犯罪持續事實上是成長的那從這數據可以看到112年跟113年相較事實上113年成長了66%光今年的1月就有530名的被害人\n\n3\n00:00:57,387 --> 00:01:08,514\n那這些都還是浮在檯面上的喔檯面下的不願報案的我相信不計其數其中我覺得比較關注可以關注的就是說未成年跟成年人的被害的比例是\n\n4\n00:01:10,823 --> 00:01:28,328\n5.5比6.5這個差異性很高那從結果上來看的話成年人的案量比較大我們先不討論未成年他可能去阻礙到沒辦法進入到司法體系的其他原因我們先來談的是其他的問題問題一我要提到的是成人影像的案件裡面\n\n5\n00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:48,137\n特別去看實務上存在幾個問題一是我們可以看到量能不足的問題主要體現在地方護幼隊編制以行政業務為主我想署長應該也知道光是處理龐大的行政聯繫事項就已經疲於奔命了那如何做到偵查防治還有其次\n\n6\n00:01:48,877 --> 00:02:17,418\n在目前可知運用的強制處分的手段上受限於法規的門檻跟程序兒少類的性影像餘率可以處理可是一旦跨過18歲就處處受到限制再來處理案件的流程欠缺我們的專業性受理被害人報案後沒有先申請我們的搜索扣押就通知嫌疑人證據往往就在這過程當中不見了\n\n7\n00:02:18,499 --> 00:02:42,387\n那最後就算第一線的員警有意願有熱情有專業有敏感度要去處理但地方分局的設備跟自身的偵查能力呢都可能讓我們的員警心有餘慮而慮不足那也想戲就問題我覺得看白話來講就是常看到的就是沒錢又沒有人但我相信大家都知道性影像這個犯罪問題呢\n\n8\n00:02:43,968 --> 00:03:00,685\n非常嚴重那相信署長應該也很重視那我就好奇每一年的預算有多少所以想問署長你覺得性影響犯罪是嚴重犯罪嗎那就要再請教今年的也就是數位性暴力的防治預算有多少\n\n9\n00:03:01,434 --> 00:03:09,524\n那跟委員報告這有關這個預算裡面是統編在科技偵查的預算裡面不會說對針對性影像專者編這個預算也是在偵查偵辦科技犯罪的一個預算的範圍裡面沒有做專者這樣提列出來的一個預算\n\n10\n00:03:20,657 --> 00:03:37,063\n我看到我現在拿到的數據是601萬300元主要大家都在教育訓練宣導費用除非就像剛剛署長提的是說你發科技偵辦裡面可是我們現在拿到可是相對的來講今年宣布\n\n11\n00:03:37,943 --> 00:04:02,228\n預防兒少犯罪方案就76億元喔這是預防性的齁那大概如果以這樣601萬來比的話大概就佔到0.07而已如果橫比上來看的話那比例上那所以是小巫見大巫所以問了警政署說那為何沒有專項的預算因為既然這個問題很嚴重可是得到回覆是說喔還在評估當中沒有錢又沒有人那現況怎麼辦呢\n\n12\n00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:14,888\n是要靠員警的熱情嗎員警基層努力嗎努力就會有收穫嗎所以我不知道說整個想來問署長你的性影像案件的續講怎麼計算\n\n13\n00:04:16,311 --> 00:04:42,696\n那對於姓李這樣的一個續講我想也是採取比較中獎的方式來鼓勵同仁偵辦這案件那這個偵辦案件裡面我們大概有兩個面向第一個大概我們會主動去做網路上的去做巡邏了解這個整個的來源再來就是備案的這個報案那這部分我想就是我們全國各警察機關對於這項的工作是非常重視的\n\n14\n00:04:43,416 --> 00:05:11,486\n那當然這個我們的主責的單位是在婦幼隊的一個專責但是偵辦的單位大概都會只有地方警察局的偵查隊或是警察局的刑警大隊會來做一個偵查那現在偵查的這個能量跟能力我想應該沒有問題就是說對於這些案件的一個力道未來我們會加強對於這個方面的一個偵查署長我現在問你的是\n\n15\n00:05:12,986 --> 00:05:38,865\n所以我們來看一下你的續講的整個這樣子我應該講說不是酒駕不重要可是案件複雜程度的話應該是性影像比較複雜而且酒駕相對事實上單純可是續講的計算怎麼差異這麼大也就是說今天處理性影像沒累積事件才加獎一次可是酒駕的話就是計慢車就加獎一次如果汽車的話加獎兩次\n\n16\n00:05:41,126 --> 00:06:03,256\n這橫比上真的落差非常的大這樣子的話我們是要去靠我們的基層的熱情嗎委員這個部分我們拿回去再做檢討就是對於基地市區這個部分我都同意來做滾動式的一個檢討讓我們的同仁更有這些的熱情對如果他們很努力的話應該要去做鼓勵對從優來去講我想創意私房也好觸感空間\n\n17\n00:06:08,138 --> 00:06:36,228\n這兩個在發生之後真的對我們耳哨影響非常非常的大這個案件尤其是在刑事局跟我在台北市府的時候這兩個案子的偵查偵辦希望你們回去好好的去檢討那問題四呢最後一個問題就是我覺得青春專案當然我之前有看也有委員質詢過可是我還是有好奇的兩個問題就是首先如果不是專案執行期間遇到耳哨性剝削犯罪你到底查不查緝啊\n\n18\n00:06:37,108 --> 00:07:01,404\n我從基層收到的食物的狀況不是這樣子喔只不過就是因為青春案件每年在七八月大概暑期的期間有一些青少年大概就是我們的這些學生大概就是都放假可是如果牽扯下去講的話他可能會等到後邊才去做的話那這樣子的話對於我覺得兒少的性剝削這件事情就不會有力道出現\n\n19\n00:07:01,704 --> 00:07:12,434\n對所以我剛剛委員所提的對於核酸性剝削的這些的有功或者是這些的出力的同仁我要重新來檢討這個獎勵的制度對你要通盤檢討啦通盤來檢討獎勵的制度還有另外一個我要問的是\n\n20\n00:07:16,994 --> 00:07:39,740\n兒少的這三個狀況也就是自我剝削的情形比如說他自己在住處招攬性交易或者是在包養網站上刊登自身的一些訊息因為他還沒發生嘛兒少在網路上傳自身的信息像你因為沒有還沒有所謂的加害人到底要不要救援那救援有沒有分數啊\n\n21\n00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:57,353\n這個部分就是未過程之前的這個可能要研究一下了所以我希望你們可以去可能有一些主辦單位就是這個主管機關是不是要加入一起來可是資深已經是在PO這些東西的話\n\n22\n00:07:58,414 --> 00:08:12,855\n因為我們的確過去事實上是要救救除棄現在很多時候是志願的那我們要怎麼去防堵我覺得這件事情還是要來努力還有不要忘記我們是CRC跟CDO的施行國\n\n23\n00:08:14,096 --> 00:08:36,882\n所以兒權公約明年也要交第三次國家報告了我們第34條他就很清楚的是說我們應該承諾保護兒童免於所有形式的性剝削跟性虐待那CITO也是這樣子提及所以不要忘記是明年到底要怎麼去交因為我們的這樣的犯罪這麼樣的嚴重明年要交第三次國家報告之後你怎麼去提及這個\n\n24\n00:08:37,822 --> 00:08:59,849\n所以最後我就期待就請署長針對於像第一點檢討修正我們吸引像處理流程來強化第一線的員警的專業智能不過第二項我就要請法務部部長也在這邊麻煩你們檢討強制處分適用案件跟程序來提升我們的偵查權限跟優化辦案效率不知道部長這邊OK嗎\n\n25\n00:09:03,113 --> 00:09:20,569\n我們回去嚴厲OK那第三回來還是希望我們署長這邊擴大性犯罪的偵犯能量來要有專項的經費預算然後挹注足夠的人力他請你全面檢討所有的整個續講機制不要\n\n26\n00:09:21,209 --> 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戲就問題我覺得看白話來講就是常看到的就是沒錢又沒有人但我相信大家都知道性影像這個犯罪問題呢\n163968\t180685\t非常嚴重那相信署長應該也很重視那我就好奇每一年的預算有多少所以想問署長你覺得性影響犯罪是嚴重犯罪嗎那就要再請教今年的也就是數位性暴力的防治預算有多少\n181434\t189524\t那跟委員報告這有關這個預算裡面是統編在科技偵查的預算裡面不會說對針對性影像專者編這個預算也是在偵查偵辦科技犯罪的一個預算的範圍裡面沒有做專者這樣提列出來的一個預算\n200657\t217063\t我看到我現在拿到的數據是601萬300元主要大家都在教育訓練宣導費用除非就像剛剛署長提的是說你發科技偵辦裡面可是我們現在拿到可是相對的來講今年宣布\n217943\t242228\t預防兒少犯罪方案就76億元喔這是預防性的齁那大概如果以這樣601萬來比的話大概就佔到0.07而已如果橫比上來看的話那比例上那所以是小巫見大巫所以問了警政署說那為何沒有專項的預算因為既然這個問題很嚴重可是得到回覆是說喔還在評估當中沒有錢又沒有人那現況怎麼辦呢\n243368\t254888\t是要靠員警的熱情嗎員警基層努力嗎努力就會有收穫嗎所以我不知道說整個想來問署長你的性影像案件的續講怎麼計算\n256311\t282696\t那對於姓李這樣的一個續講我想也是採取比較中獎的方式來鼓勵同仁偵辦這案件那這個偵辦案件裡面我們大概有兩個面向第一個大概我們會主動去做網路上的去做巡邏了解這個整個的來源再來就是備案的這個報案那這部分我想就是我們全國各警察機關對於這項的工作是非常重視的\n283416\t311486\t那當然這個我們的主責的單位是在婦幼隊的一個專責但是偵辦的單位大概都會只有地方警察局的偵查隊或是警察局的刑警大隊會來做一個偵查那現在偵查的這個能量跟能力我想應該沒有問題就是說對於這些案件的一個力道未來我們會加強對於這個方面的一個偵查署長我現在問你的是\n312986\t338865\t所以我們來看一下你的續講的整個這樣子我應該講說不是酒駕不重要可是案件複雜程度的話應該是性影像比較複雜而且酒駕相對事實上單純可是續講的計算怎麼差異這麼大也就是說今天處理性影像沒累積事件才加獎一次可是酒駕的話就是計慢車就加獎一次如果汽車的話加獎兩次\n341126\t363256\t這橫比上真的落差非常的大這樣子的話我們是要去靠我們的基層的熱情嗎委員這個部分我們拿回去再做檢討就是對於基地市區這個部分我都同意來做滾動式的一個檢討讓我們的同仁更有這些的熱情對 如果他們很努力的話應該要去做鼓勵對 從優來去講我想創意私房也好 觸感空間\n368138\t396228\t這兩個在發生之後真的對我們耳哨影響非常非常的大這個案件尤其是在刑事局跟我在台北市府的時候這兩個案子的偵查偵辦希望你們回去好好的去檢討那問題四呢最後一個問題就是我覺得青春專案當然我之前有看也有委員質詢過可是我還是有好奇的兩個問題就是首先如果不是專案執行期間遇到耳哨性剝削犯罪你到底查不查緝啊\n397108\t421404\t我從基層收到的食物的狀況不是這樣子喔只不過就是因為青春案件每年在七八月大概暑期的期間有一些青少年大概就是我們的這些學生大概就是都放假可是如果牽扯下去講的話他可能會等到後邊才去做的話那這樣子的話對於我覺得兒少的性剝削這件事情就不會有力道出現\n421704\t432434\t對 所以我剛剛委員所提的對於核酸性剝削的這些的有功或者是這些的出力的同仁我要重新來檢討這個獎勵的制度對 你要通盤檢討啦通盤來檢討獎勵的制度還有另外一個我要問的是\n436994\t459740\t兒少的這三個狀況 也就是自我剝削的情形比如說他自己在住處招攬性交易或者是在包養網站上刊登自身的一些訊息因為他還沒發生嘛 兒少在網路上傳自身的信息像你 因為沒有 還沒有所謂的加害人 到底要不要救援那救援有沒有分數啊\n461600\t477353\t這個部分就是未過程之前的這個可能要研究一下了所以我希望你們可以去可能有一些主辦單位就是這個主管機關是不是要加入一起來可是資深已經是在PO這些東西的話\n478414\t492855\t因為我們的確過去事實上是要救救除棄現在很多時候是志願的那我們要怎麼去防堵我覺得這件事情還是要來努力還有不要忘記我們是CRC跟CDO的施行國\n494096\t516882\t所以兒權公約明年也要交第三次國家報告了我們第34條他就很清楚的是說我們應該承諾保護兒童免於所有形式的性剝削跟性虐待那CITO也是這樣子提及所以不要忘記是明年到底要怎麼去交因為我們的這樣的犯罪這麼樣的嚴重明年要交第三次國家報告之後你怎麼去提及這個\n517822\t539849\t所以最後我就期待就請署長針對於像第一點檢討修正我們吸引像處理流程來強化第一線的員警的專業智能不過第二項我就要請法務部部長也在這邊麻煩你們檢討強制處分適用案件跟程序來提升我們的偵查權限跟優化辦案效率不知道部長這邊OK嗎\n543113\t560569\t我們回去嚴厲OK那第三回來還是希望我們署長這邊擴大性犯罪的偵犯能量來要有專項的經費預算然後挹注足夠的人力他請你全面檢討所有的整個續講機制不要\n561209\t585929\t在青春專案那個時間點或者是跟酒駕的不對等這樣的續講方式沒有辦法讓人家更奮力的去辦這件事情否則真的就是在消耗他們的熱情而已所以再來最後就是檢討我們的青春專案的規劃跟執行那麻煩兩位就是是不是可以兩週後給我我這題的五項給我那個報告好 可以好 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觸感空間\n這兩個在發生之後真的對我們耳哨影響非常非常的大這個案件尤其是在刑事局跟我在台北市府的時候這兩個案子的偵查偵辦希望你們回去好好的去檢討那問題四呢最後一個問題就是我覺得青春專案當然我之前有看也有委員質詢過可是我還是有好奇的兩個問題就是首先如果不是專案執行期間遇到耳哨性剝削犯罪你到底查不查緝啊\n我從基層收到的食物的狀況不是這樣子喔只不過就是因為青春案件每年在七八月大概暑期的期間有一些青少年大概就是我們的這些學生大概就是都放假可是如果牽扯下去講的話他可能會等到後邊才去做的話那這樣子的話對於我覺得兒少的性剝削這件事情就不會有力道出現\n對 所以我剛剛委員所提的對於核酸性剝削的這些的有功或者是這些的出力的同仁我要重新來檢討這個獎勵的制度對 你要通盤檢討啦通盤來檢討獎勵的制度還有另外一個我要問的是\n兒少的這三個狀況 也就是自我剝削的情形比如說他自己在住處招攬性交易或者是在包養網站上刊登自身的一些訊息因為他還沒發生嘛 兒少在網路上傳自身的信息像你 因為沒有 還沒有所謂的加害人 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