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00:03:11,872\n至於這個是不是有感受到這個中方的來自於中國大陸的壓力那麼就我們來說我們不是去感受到壓力的一方而是這個范麗剛那我們也很高興范麗剛能夠還是堅持雖然是說這個放棄各教宗放棄各的喪禮當然是對於這個叫全球的這個\n\n10\n00:03:12,773 --> 00:03:13,694\n好,就是不是我們的壓力\n\n11\n00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:50,396\n我們並沒有感受到這樣的壓力新任的教宗也在選舉當中今天臺灣時間凌晨應該到目前為止是沒有明確的結果我想在2013年方濟各教宗\n\n12\n00:03:50,956 --> 00:04:09,152\n他宣誓就職的典禮我們所派出的是當時的馬英九總統伉儷那陳建仁副總統在日前也接受訪問的時候表示說我們希望在新任教宗就職典禮能由我們的賴清德總統\n\n13\n00:04:09,973 --> 00:04:34,254\n能夠代表出席那對於這個部分我們對於新任教宗就職的特使團外交部是不是已經在進行相關的規劃內容並且與教廷保持密切的聯繫同樣會以安排我們總統出席作為最終的一個目標有沒有可能\n\n14\n00:04:35,094 --> 00:05:02,308\n當然我們這個跟教廷隨時保持一個良好的溝通那畢竟現在教廷的最重要的一個事情是要選出新的這個教宗他們也很忙齁那麼後續的安排我們會密切的跟那麼我們跟這個教廷會保持好的聯繫那至於人選上面那個是主要是由這個總統府這邊來因為是這個不管是總統自己這個去或者是說要派代表去我想都是由總統府來做決定\n\n15\n00:05:03,488 --> 00:05:13,341\n外交部是完全配合那麼盡力的爭取那麼達成這個總統所交付的使命為最高的指導原則好很保守\n\n16\n00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:43,213\n並沒有保守這個大概是因為這個牽涉到雙方我想是說我們這個也是總統府有做決策軍外交部的角色來說我們就是全力的爭取然後跟對方能夠有好的一個溝通互動然後能夠確保我們的這一個雙邊的關係也能夠保持畢竟我們是這個宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個也非常的了解那麼台灣也有相當數量的這個天主教徒也需要\n\n17\n00:05:45,715 --> 00:06:07,391\n教宗的牧羊我想這些東西都是考慮在內那麼我們也把這些訊息傳達給教廷來做那現在也跟委員報告現在梵蒂岡他最重要的工作就是透過這個書密會議來選出新的教宗這是他們的最重要的工作然後後續再來安排他的相關的疑點\n\n18\n00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:20,583\n市長積極爭取啦一定全力爭取不是我們全力爭取好全力爭取好那在過去幾年齁我們跟這個台灣的這個外交關係齁\n\n19\n00:06:22,267 --> 00:06:46,092\n有不穩的傳言,不穩定的傳言包括之前我們林佳永部長也在節目上曾提及需要特別關注我們和教廷的關係但同時也看到台灣與范締剛之間保持密切的交流尤其是在宗教的對話合作上,這幾天教廷跨宗教對話部的副秘書長\n\n20\n00:06:47,553 --> 00:07:03,844\n這個包林神父也來到台灣那有關下個階段要如何來加強鞏固我們與梵蒂岡的這個邦誼外交部有沒有具體的一個規劃我們這個都持續在做啦那也還是跟委員報告一下那麼有一些基本的\n\n21\n00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:32,071\n工作一直在進行包括護房那麼包括一起辦活動那麼也一直在傳達我們是一個尊重宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個有完全的一個了解跟掌握那麼另外一個就是說新的這個教宗選舉出來之後他的整個的相關的教廷的一些安排那麼也緊密的來我們就非常這個注意相關的這個事情的發展\n\n22\n00:07:34,683 --> 00:07:51,250\n台灣與梵蒂岡的情誼、邦誼已經83年了,我們也希望外交部能夠持續強化和教廷在各個領域上的合作,讓我們能夠穩固兩國的邦誼,共同保障宗教信仰的自由\n\n23\n00:07:53,331 --> 00:08:06,341\n就美國挺台灣參與國際的部分,我小舅叫次長,在上個月美國代表在聯合國安理會批評中國誤用2758號的決議,到這個禮拜美國眾議院通過兩項重要的友台法案,包括\n\n24\n00:08:16,367 --> 00:08:40,821\n台灣保證落實法案,最主要是要強化美台行政部門的交流另外一個是台灣國際團結法案,它的內容非常清楚的表示聯合國2758號決議未處理台灣在聯合國及其相關組織中的代表權的問題也未對台灣的主權做出任何的表述\n\n25\n00:08:41,781 --> 00:09:02,726\n那我想結合這安理會與眾議院兩個事件,是不是代表美國的行政和立法部門有共識那會以實際的行動來支持台灣積極參與國際的機會,能否有效來抵制中共的相關論述\n\n26\n00:09:03,866 --> 00:09:23,892\n是,那麼有關2758,那麼這個聯合國2758決議,那麼中共一直在國際上面散播很多的曲解,那麼那個錯誤的這個解讀,那麼也強壓它的這個國際社會接受,然後我們在這上面結合理念相近的國家全力的來\n\n27\n00:09:24,972 --> 00:09:50,373\n正確的去詮釋那我們也很高興看到這個美國在這個眾院裡面跨黨派的議員支持用兩個法案就像剛才委員所提到的那最重要當然提到了這一個27584這個台灣國際團結法案這個台灣InternationalSolidarityAct這上面的東西那麼我想這個都充分的展示了那其實不是只有\n\n28\n00:09:51,293 --> 00:10:14,157\n這個立法部門包括行政部門也一再的在重複的傳達一個清楚的訊息還包括您剛才提到在安理會上面就是2758這樣的一個決議並不涉及這個台灣而且也沒有排除台灣有異議的參與那麼這個是這個我們跟理念相近的國家共同努力的一個結果\n\n29\n00:10:14,923 --> 00:10:24,909\n好,這部分我想也是請外交部能夠對於這個美國的友好的這個表述我們應該要積極的來做一個\n\n30\n00:10:26,871 --> 00:10:52,759\n這個回應,也要讓這個國際感受到我們對於這個美國的這種對我們的友好,我們希望所有的友邦或是一些國家都能夠認同也能夠來對於台灣的一個支持我想這樣才能夠增加我們台灣在國際上的一個能見度,也可以讓我們與其他的國家有一個更好的一個邦誼\n\n31\n00:10:53,739 --> 00:11:16,325\n絕對謝謝委員長我們外交部長我們林部長已經在這個具體的感謝這個行政部美國行政部門跟跨黨派這個對台灣的這個支持那麼事實上也跟委員報告不只是只有美國歐洲很多的國家很多世界上理念相近的國家就一而再再而三的強調2758沒有這個處理台灣的問題那麼也沒有排除台灣有異議的國際參與好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝市長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n349\t12462\t各位我們外交部及我們園民會的列席的主管,大家早安大家好。那我先請我們外交部的陳次長。次長早委員早\n22536\t41683\t市長我想就台泛我們跟泛地岡的外交相關的發展走向來請教我們市長在教宗方濟各的喪禮在4月26號已經舉行了,包括台灣在內有160個\n44890\t56489\t160幾個國家的領袖及特使參加我們台灣則是派出陳建仁前副總統因為他與梵蒂岡\n57267\t83366\t有一個深遠的關係那也在這次的代表出席過程裡面收獲蠻豐碩的與多國的元首包括拜登前總統都有機會能夠來做意見交換那在這之前中共曾經要求叫停禁止台灣的代表團派員參加\n85011\t90060\t但是被教廷以外交管道拒絕但是這個中共\n91434\t117216\t最後就決定他們缺席來抵制這場的典禮那我想就這個問題就叫我們次長外交部在和教廷交涉的過程當中是否有感受到中共所帶來的壓力那在這一次中國的缺席事件是否會影響過去幾年台灣與范緹剛之間所建立的關係甚至會影響到新任教宗的選舉\n118550\t145050\t是 那麼我們是一個正式的這個使團嘛那麼因為這個我們台泛的關係這個非常的長久已經83年了雙方的互動也都一直很密切那麼經過雙方的討論之後那麼因為陳前總統陳前副總統曾經六度的進建教宗方濟各並且獲得教宗親自來頒授教廷宗座\n146331\t171278\t這個科學院的院士的證章那跟教宗的關係非常的深厚所以我們最後決定由陳前總統陳前副總統對不起代表我國的出席的這個教宗的一個上禮我相信說他的一個參與那麼其實也證實了說台灣跟范帝章之間的關係非常的這個兩邊的關係非常的好那麼這個是毋庸置疑的\n171918\t191872\t至於這個是不是有感受到這個中方的來自於中國大陸的壓力那麼就我們來說我們不是去感受到壓力的一方而是這個范麗剛那我們也很高興范麗剛能夠還是堅持雖然是說這個放棄各教宗放棄各的喪禮當然是對於這個叫全球的這個\n192773\t193694\t好,就是不是我們的壓力\n210544\t230396\t我們並沒有感受到這樣的壓力新任的教宗也在選舉當中今天臺灣時間凌晨應該到目前為止是沒有明確的結果我想在2013年方濟各教宗\n230956\t249152\t他宣誓就職的典禮我們所派出的是當時的馬英九總統伉儷那陳建仁副總統在日前也接受訪問的時候表示說我們希望在新任教宗就職典禮能由我們的賴清德總統\n249973\t274254\t能夠代表出席那對於這個部分我們對於新任教宗就職的特使團外交部是不是已經在進行相關的規劃內容並且與教廷保持密切的聯繫同樣會以安排我們總統出席作為最終的一個目標有沒有可能\n275094\t302308\t當然我們這個跟教廷隨時保持一個良好的溝通那畢竟現在教廷的最重要的一個事情是要選出新的這個教宗他們也很忙齁那麼後續的安排我們會密切的跟那麼我們跟這個教廷會保持好的聯繫那至於人選上面那個是主要是由這個總統府這邊來因為是這個不管是總統自己這個去或者是說要派代表去我想都是由總統府來做決定\n303488\t313341\t外交部是完全配合那麼盡力的爭取那麼達成這個總統所交付的使命為最高的指導原則好 很保守\n315550\t343213\t並沒有保守這個大概是因為這個牽涉到雙方我想是說我們這個也是總統府有做決策軍外交部的角色來說我們就是全力的爭取然後跟對方能夠有好的一個溝通互動然後能夠確保我們的這一個雙邊的關係也能夠保持畢竟我們是這個宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個也非常的了解那麼台灣也有相當數量的這個天主教徒也需要\n345715\t367391\t教宗的牧羊我想這些東西都是考慮在內那麼我們也把這些訊息傳達給教廷來做那現在也跟委員報告現在梵蒂岡他最重要的工作就是透過這個書密會議來選出新的教宗這是他們的最重要的工作然後後續再來安排他的相關的疑點\n370453\t380583\t市長 積極爭取啦一定 全力爭取 不是我們全力爭取好 全力爭取好 那在過去幾年齁我們跟這個台灣的這個外交關係齁\n382267\t406092\t有不穩的傳言,不穩定的傳言包括之前我們林佳永部長也在節目上曾提及需要特別關注我們和教廷的關係但同時也看到台灣與范締剛之間保持密切的交流尤其是在宗教的對話合作上,這幾天教廷跨宗教對話部的副秘書長\n407553\t423844\t這個包林神父也來到台灣那有關下個階段要如何來加強鞏固我們與梵蒂岡的這個邦誼外交部有沒有具體的一個規劃我們這個都持續在做啦那也還是跟委員報告一下那麼有一些基本的\n424625\t452071\t工作一直在進行包括護房那麼包括一起辦活動那麼也一直在傳達我們是一個尊重宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個有完全的一個了解跟掌握那麼另外一個就是說新的這個教宗選舉出來之後他的整個的相關的教廷的一些安排那麼也緊密的來我們就非常這個注意相關的這個事情的發展\n454683\t471250\t台灣與梵蒂岡的情誼、邦誼已經83年了,我們也希望外交部能夠持續強化和教廷在各個領域上的合作,讓我們能夠穩固兩國的邦誼,共同保障宗教信仰的自由\n473331\t486341\t就美國挺台灣參與國際的部分,我小舅叫次長,在上個月美國代表在聯合國安理會批評中國誤用2758號的決議,到這個禮拜美國眾議院通過兩項重要的友台法案,包括\n496367\t520821\t台灣保證落實法案,最主要是要強化美台行政部門的交流另外一個是台灣國際團結法案,它的內容非常清楚的表示聯合國2758號決議未處理台灣在聯合國及其相關組織中的代表權的問題也未對台灣的主權做出任何的表述\n521781\t542726\t那我想結合這安理會與眾議院兩個事件,是不是代表美國的行政和立法部門有共識那會以實際的行動來支持台灣積極參與國際的機會,能否有效來抵制中共的相關論述\n543866\t563892\t是,那麼有關2758,那麼這個聯合國2758決議,那麼中共一直在國際上面散播很多的曲解,那麼那個錯誤的這個解讀,那麼也強壓它的這個國際社會接受,然後我們在這上面結合理念相近的國家全力的來\n564972\t590373\t正確的去詮釋那我們也很高興看到這個美國在這個眾院裡面跨黨派的議員支持用兩個法案就像剛才委員所提到的那最重要當然提到了這一個27584這個台灣國際團結法案這個台灣International Solidarity Act這上面的東西那麼我想這個都充分的展示了那其實不是只有\n591293\t614157\t這個立法部門包括行政部門也一再的在重複的傳達一個清楚的訊息還包括您剛才提到在安理會上面就是2758這樣的一個決議並不涉及這個台灣而且也沒有排除台灣有異議的參與那麼這個是這個我們跟理念相近的國家共同努力的一個結果\n614923\t624909\t好,這部分我想也是請外交部能夠對於這個美國的友好的這個表述我們應該要積極的來做一個\n626871\t652759\t這個回應,也要讓這個國際感受到我們對於這個美國的這種對我們的友好,我們希望所有的友邦或是一些國家都能夠認同也能夠來對於台灣的一個支持我想這樣才能夠增加我們台灣在國際上的一個能見度,也可以讓我們與其他的國家有一個更好的一個邦誼\n653739\t676325\t絕對謝謝委員長我們外交部長我們林部長已經在這個具體的感謝這個行政部美國行政部門跟跨黨派這個對台灣的這個支持那麼事實上也跟委員報告不只是只有美國歐洲很多的國家很多世界上理念相近的國家就一而再再而三的強調2758沒有這個處理台灣的問題那麼也沒有排除台灣有異議的國際參與好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝市長\n","txt":"各位我們外交部及我們園民會的列席的主管,大家早安大家好。那我先請我們外交部的陳次長。次長早委員早\n市長我想就台泛我們跟泛地岡的外交相關的發展走向來請教我們市長在教宗方濟各的喪禮在4月26號已經舉行了,包括台灣在內有160個\n160幾個國家的領袖及特使參加我們台灣則是派出陳建仁前副總統因為他與梵蒂岡\n有一個深遠的關係那也在這次的代表出席過程裡面收獲蠻豐碩的與多國的元首包括拜登前總統都有機會能夠來做意見交換那在這之前中共曾經要求叫停禁止台灣的代表團派員參加\n但是被教廷以外交管道拒絕但是這個中共\n最後就決定他們缺席來抵制這場的典禮那我想就這個問題就叫我們次長外交部在和教廷交涉的過程當中是否有感受到中共所帶來的壓力那在這一次中國的缺席事件是否會影響過去幾年台灣與范緹剛之間所建立的關係甚至會影響到新任教宗的選舉\n是 那麼我們是一個正式的這個使團嘛那麼因為這個我們台泛的關係這個非常的長久已經83年了雙方的互動也都一直很密切那麼經過雙方的討論之後那麼因為陳前總統陳前副總統曾經六度的進建教宗方濟各並且獲得教宗親自來頒授教廷宗座\n這個科學院的院士的證章那跟教宗的關係非常的深厚所以我們最後決定由陳前總統陳前副總統對不起代表我國的出席的這個教宗的一個上禮我相信說他的一個參與那麼其實也證實了說台灣跟范帝章之間的關係非常的這個兩邊的關係非常的好那麼這個是毋庸置疑的\n至於這個是不是有感受到這個中方的來自於中國大陸的壓力那麼就我們來說我們不是去感受到壓力的一方而是這個范麗剛那我們也很高興范麗剛能夠還是堅持雖然是說這個放棄各教宗放棄各的喪禮當然是對於這個叫全球的這個\n好,就是不是我們的壓力\n我們並沒有感受到這樣的壓力新任的教宗也在選舉當中今天臺灣時間凌晨應該到目前為止是沒有明確的結果我想在2013年方濟各教宗\n他宣誓就職的典禮我們所派出的是當時的馬英九總統伉儷那陳建仁副總統在日前也接受訪問的時候表示說我們希望在新任教宗就職典禮能由我們的賴清德總統\n能夠代表出席那對於這個部分我們對於新任教宗就職的特使團外交部是不是已經在進行相關的規劃內容並且與教廷保持密切的聯繫同樣會以安排我們總統出席作為最終的一個目標有沒有可能\n當然我們這個跟教廷隨時保持一個良好的溝通那畢竟現在教廷的最重要的一個事情是要選出新的這個教宗他們也很忙齁那麼後續的安排我們會密切的跟那麼我們跟這個教廷會保持好的聯繫那至於人選上面那個是主要是由這個總統府這邊來因為是這個不管是總統自己這個去或者是說要派代表去我想都是由總統府來做決定\n外交部是完全配合那麼盡力的爭取那麼達成這個總統所交付的使命為最高的指導原則好 很保守\n並沒有保守這個大概是因為這個牽涉到雙方我想是說我們這個也是總統府有做決策軍外交部的角色來說我們就是全力的爭取然後跟對方能夠有好的一個溝通互動然後能夠確保我們的這一個雙邊的關係也能夠保持畢竟我們是這個宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個也非常的了解那麼台灣也有相當數量的這個天主教徒也需要\n教宗的牧羊我想這些東西都是考慮在內那麼我們也把這些訊息傳達給教廷來做那現在也跟委員報告現在梵蒂岡他最重要的工作就是透過這個書密會議來選出新的教宗這是他們的最重要的工作然後後續再來安排他的相關的疑點\n市長 積極爭取啦一定 全力爭取 不是我們全力爭取好 全力爭取好 那在過去幾年齁我們跟這個台灣的這個外交關係齁\n有不穩的傳言,不穩定的傳言包括之前我們林佳永部長也在節目上曾提及需要特別關注我們和教廷的關係但同時也看到台灣與范締剛之間保持密切的交流尤其是在宗教的對話合作上,這幾天教廷跨宗教對話部的副秘書長\n這個包林神父也來到台灣那有關下個階段要如何來加強鞏固我們與梵蒂岡的這個邦誼外交部有沒有具體的一個規劃我們這個都持續在做啦那也還是跟委員報告一下那麼有一些基本的\n工作一直在進行包括護房那麼包括一起辦活動那麼也一直在傳達我們是一個尊重宗教自由的國家我想教廷對這個有完全的一個了解跟掌握那麼另外一個就是說新的這個教宗選舉出來之後他的整個的相關的教廷的一些安排那麼也緊密的來我們就非常這個注意相關的這個事情的發展\n台灣與梵蒂岡的情誼、邦誼已經83年了,我們也希望外交部能夠持續強化和教廷在各個領域上的合作,讓我們能夠穩固兩國的邦誼,共同保障宗教信仰的自由\n就美國挺台灣參與國際的部分,我小舅叫次長,在上個月美國代表在聯合國安理會批評中國誤用2758號的決議,到這個禮拜美國眾議院通過兩項重要的友台法案,包括\n台灣保證落實法案,最主要是要強化美台行政部門的交流另外一個是台灣國際團結法案,它的內容非常清楚的表示聯合國2758號決議未處理台灣在聯合國及其相關組織中的代表權的問題也未對台灣的主權做出任何的表述\n那我想結合這安理會與眾議院兩個事件,是不是代表美國的行政和立法部門有共識那會以實際的行動來支持台灣積極參與國際的機會,能否有效來抵制中共的相關論述\n是,那麼有關2758,那麼這個聯合國2758決議,那麼中共一直在國際上面散播很多的曲解,那麼那個錯誤的這個解讀,那麼也強壓它的這個國際社會接受,然後我們在這上面結合理念相近的國家全力的來\n正確的去詮釋那我們也很高興看到這個美國在這個眾院裡面跨黨派的議員支持用兩個法案就像剛才委員所提到的那最重要當然提到了這一個27584這個台灣國際團結法案這個台灣International Solidarity Act這上面的東西那麼我想這個都充分的展示了那其實不是只有\n這個立法部門包括行政部門也一再的在重複的傳達一個清楚的訊息還包括您剛才提到在安理會上面就是2758這樣的一個決議並不涉及這個台灣而且也沒有排除台灣有異議的參與那麼這個是這個我們跟理念相近的國家共同努力的一個結果\n好,這部分我想也是請外交部能夠對於這個美國的友好的這個表述我們應該要積極的來做一個\n這個回應,也要讓這個國際感受到我們對於這個美國的這種對我們的友好,我們希望所有的友邦或是一些國家都能夠認同也能夠來對於台灣的一個支持我想這樣才能夠增加我們台灣在國際上的一個能見度,也可以讓我們與其他的國家有一個更好的一個邦誼\n絕對謝謝委員長我們外交部長我們林部長已經在這個具體的感謝這個行政部美國行政部門跟跨黨派這個對台灣的這個支持那麼事實上也跟委員報告不只是只有美國歐洲很多的國家很多世界上理念相近的國家就一而再再而三的強調2758沒有這個處理台灣的問題那麼也沒有排除台灣有異議的國際參與好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝市長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.349 --> 00:12.462\n各位我們外交部及我們園民會的列席的主管,大家早安大家好。那我先請我們外交部的陳次長。次長早委員早\n\n00:22.536 --> 00:41.683\n市長我想就台泛我們跟泛地岡的外交相關的發展走向來請教我們市長在教宗方濟各的喪禮在4月26號已經舉行了,包括台灣在內有160個\n\n00:44.890 --> 00:56.489\n160幾個國家的領袖及特使參加我們台灣則是派出陳建仁前副總統因為他與梵蒂岡\n\n00:57.267 --> 01:23.366\n有一個深遠的關係那也在這次的代表出席過程裡面收獲蠻豐碩的與多國的元首包括拜登前總統都有機會能夠來做意見交換那在這之前中共曾經要求叫停禁止台灣的代表團派員參加\n\n01:25.011 --> 01:30.060\n但是被教廷以外交管道拒絕但是這個中共\n\n01:31.434 --> 01:57.216\n最後就決定他們缺席來抵制這場的典禮那我想就這個問題就叫我們次長外交部在和教廷交涉的過程當中是否有感受到中共所帶來的壓力那在這一次中國的缺席事件是否會影響過去幾年台灣與范緹剛之間所建立的關係甚至會影響到新任教宗的選舉\n\n01:58.550 --> 02:25.050\n是那麼我們是一個正式的這個使團嘛那麼因為這個我們台泛的關係這個非常的長久已經83年了雙方的互動也都一直很密切那麼經過雙方的討論之後那麼因為陳前總統陳前副總統曾經六度的進建教宗方濟各並且獲得教宗親自來頒授教廷宗座\n\n02:26.331 --> 02:51.278\n這個科學院的院士的證章那跟教宗的關係非常的深厚所以我們最後決定由陳前總統陳前副總統對不起代表我國的出席的這個教宗的一個上禮我相信說他的一個參與那麼其實也證實了說台灣跟范帝章之間的關係非常的這個兩邊的關係非常的好那麼這個是毋庸置疑的\n\n02:51.918 --> 03:11.872\n至於這個是不是有感受到這個中方的來自於中國大陸的壓力那麼就我們來說我們不是去感受到壓力的一方而是這個范麗剛那我們也很高興范麗剛能夠還是堅持雖然是說這個放棄各教宗放棄各的喪禮當然是對於這個叫全球的這個\n\n03:12.773 --> 03:13.694\n好,就是不是我們的壓力\n\n03:30.544 --> 03:50.396\n我們並沒有感受到這樣的壓力新任的教宗也在選舉當中今天臺灣時間凌晨應該到目前為止是沒有明確的結果我想在2013年方濟各教宗\n\n03:50.956 --> 04:09.152\n他宣誓就職的典禮我們所派出的是當時的馬英九總統伉儷那陳建仁副總統在日前也接受訪問的時候表示說我們希望在新任教宗就職典禮能由我們的賴清德總統\n\n04:09.973 --> 04:34.254\n能夠代表出席那對於這個部分我們對於新任教宗就職的特使團外交部是不是已經在進行相關的規劃內容並且與教廷保持密切的聯繫同樣會以安排我們總統出席作為最終的一個目標有沒有可能\n\n04:35.094 --> 05:02.308\n當然我們這個跟教廷隨時保持一個良好的溝通那畢竟現在教廷的最重要的一個事情是要選出新的這個教宗他們也很忙齁那麼後續的安排我們會密切的跟那麼我們跟這個教廷會保持好的聯繫那至於人選上面那個是主要是由這個總統府這邊來因為是這個不管是總統自己這個去或者是說要派代表去我想都是由總統府來做決定\n\n05:03.488 --> 05:13.341\n外交部是完全配合那麼盡力的爭取那麼達成這個總統所交付的使命為最高的指導原則好很保守\n\n05:15.550 --> 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