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00:01:32,103\n個人資料保護委員會成立之後對於公益機關的這個監管是一天又一天全部納管那剛剛講到說在看這個各樣的過程裡面他同時會很快處理到說這邊有沒有刑事責任民事責任還有那個我想刑事責任這個\n\n5\n00:01:33,124 --> 00:01:55,845\n不會有問題嘛因為你說這個處長也收押了嘛那使用個資會有刑事責任這件事但是我們從這裡看到一個很大的問題就是機關在使用民眾的個資這件事情看起來他的監管非常的薄弱是所以現在要再形成公部門的這部分所謂的個人資料保護長這個機制要先帶進來\n\n6\n00:01:57,546 --> 00:02:22,531\n公部門的個人資料保護長保護長這個其實要先帶進來那如果個人資料保護長也因為機關的內部的一個文化他就是使用這個啊照理民政處長他就是當然要保護個人個資啊如果民政處長帶頭去使用他人個資違法使用那未來如何確保個人資料保護長不會做出類似這樣的違法行徑\n\n7\n00:02:24,025 --> 00:02:41,073\n在我們現在的規劃公務機關業本來就是全民先納管有事前跟事後當這個案子假如發生之後事後的檢查機制調查那當然會出來但是現在的規劃是會在事前我們會去做一個\n\n8\n00:02:41,713 --> 00:03:05,252\n公部門的部分我們有所謂的事前的一個計劃去落實現有的資料像尤其在這個個案裡面最主要看到它本來就已經有個作用法戶籍法那戶籍法裡面去規定相關的戶籍資料你各級人員去動用這個資料是用在哪個目的這些當然稽查的一個頻率跟過程他們用在目的就是用在罷免的連署啊\n\n9\n00:03:08,077 --> 00:03:32,833\n他應該只能用在正式假設說當然就是說使用民眾的個資如果是站在他的他要一個合法使用嘛那我現在想要請教的就是說那如果我是被利用的民眾第一個我可以自習嗎我有辦法自習我的個資是在這一次被非法利用的\n\n10\n00:03:34,222 --> 00:03:56,309\n裡面之一,我有辦法知道嗎?第二個,如果我知道了,我可以申請國賠嗎?是,剛剛說的第一個未來的運作的話就是12條所說的那個通知當事人因為他會變成是屬於個人資料安全維護的事故包含裡面有人員把資料拿出去那這個部分的話就會進到那個機制要去通知當事人那國賠本來現行規定28條就有啦\n\n11\n00:03:59,450 --> 00:04:28,289\n那若是因為公務機關它裡面的公務員執行的職務去造成對於個人資料的一個侵害現有的規定我想基隆這個案例就很清楚啊你剛講的它都構成啊違反使用啊那現在只是說我個別被利用的人我沒有辦法知道所以這一次我們的修法我們要求要通知那到底是多久的時間通知這個可能未來在處理法案的時候我們要討論就是通知的時間點然後第二個\n\n12\n00:04:29,230 --> 00:04:49,178\n好如果我個人我有辦法去查詢嗎就比方說我想要從去看我自己的健保資料這段期間有多少人查詢我或者是我要去看我的戶證資料我的我自己的房產資料或者是我的年增資料\n\n13\n00:04:50,601 --> 00:05:04,520\n因為我們知道說現在像聯合信用中心像銀行都會去查個人的年增資料那我有辦法知悉我在這段時間有多少人查我的資料這個我可以去有辦法去做查詢嗎\n\n14\n00:05:05,501 --> 00:05:21,162\n是當然現在這個畫面有顯示另外一個資訊說蘇發部有去承諾未來當然他跟我們去討論說現有的平台我們技術方面本來就有一個所謂的MyData這樣的一個平台也正在運作中\n\n15\n00:05:21,782 --> 00:05:47,293\n那如何去結合把這些深化到說他自己的一個跟他有關的個人資料相關的利用的一些內容假如在那個平台未來的發展可以去做當然我們當然也樂見這對於民眾的權益保障主任我想就是說到底誰查詢我這件事情這個是可能再需要再進一步的調查可是民眾至少有權益可以去知道我被查詢幾次吧\n\n16\n00:05:48,753 --> 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