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00:01:15,636\n是我們政府有準備好要端出來的嗎可不可以先請部長跟大家簡單的說明一下謝謝黃委員我們剛在報告的時候就是有關都更危老條例即將要落日的部分也提出來包括簡化裡面的審議程序加快它的速度也就是都更跟危老不管是公辦或者是私人民辦的部分我們都會繼續來推動那再來就是您剛所提到的目前我們這個行政院要求我們把50億的特別預算\n\n5\n00:01:23,842 --> 00:01:44,523\n把它拿來處理這個有關老宅延壽的部分應該是我們在今年年初的時候各界都有反應有關人老屋老的部分所以那時候內政部就想要推老宅延壽那因為推老宅延壽本來放在公務預算裡面我們也考慮到說老宅延壽要不要推出專章放在都更違老條例裡面\n\n6\n00:01:45,263 --> 00:02:13,636\n現在行政院覺得說我們要加速進行所以他就是用特別預算三年的方式先讓內政部來推動所以我們推動的時候目前我們就是會跟衛福部一起推出一個類似一個行政命令或措施的方式來推動這個部分這裡面大概第一個四到六樓的部分這是外面的外觀的安全跟硬體設備但是大家忘了這裡面最重要的措施其實也就是我們在社會福利上照顧老人家最重要就是\n\n7\n00:02:14,076 --> 00:02:36,715\n各宅裡面的老人家他自己本身的無障礙設施不會只有我們以前所說的像什麼電梯啦或者是這個無障礙的樓梯間不是這樣子包括剛剛所在乎的譬如說整個的那個電線的維護甚至燈光照明或者是老人家在衛浴裡面不要有那個這個滑倒這樣的措施這個我們就必須要跟衛福部一起來處理也就是說\n\n8\n00:02:39,694 --> 00:03:07,000\n內政部所處理的是整個的外面看的耐震的一定的程度之下怎麼樣讓老人家可以在整棟大樓裡面是可以安全的活動但是另外一個在住宅生活品質上面能夠讓老人家可以在一般年紀比較大的人要注意一下不要有其他的跌倒受傷或者是受到其他的因素這兩個合在一起所以行政院認為說值得把它放在我們這次的特別預算來推動\n\n9\n00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:25,127\n那特別預算如果通過的話其實我們按照現在衛福部跟衛福部的長照計畫跟那個內政部所提的部分就可以來辦理這個推動讓大家一起來申請好謝謝部長的說明我認為這是一個非常好的政策也希望接下來推行可以順利那這個特別預算可以順利通過\n\n10\n00:03:26,368 --> 00:03:39,900\n那我還是想請教一下剛剛其實部長有說所以危老條例因為其實裡面的這個時程容積獎勵本來前三年是10%那到現在已經是第八年了剩下1%那所以是接下來還打算繼續延長這個獎勵嗎是不是請署長補充說明一下感謝委員因為\n\n11\n00:03:44,384 --> 00:04:09,347\n我們過去就認為10成獎勵它是一個比較像鼓勵性質的空白授權它是應該要結束掉但是我們同時也看到危老因為當時搶著申請所以太多的小基地去申請然後有獎勵那在結構它相對比較會讓外界質疑所以我們很快就提出了規模獎勵也就是說你至少要在60平方公尺以上才能夠來申請\n\n12\n00:04:10,067 --> 00:04:25,601\n那他有一點就變成取代這個10成獎勵那未來在修法裡面我想我們這一個部分我們也會繼續鼓勵他但是10成獎勵的部分我們就會直接把它做取消好那我了解謝謝署長的說明那再來請教一下也是請署長\n\n13\n00:04:27,422 --> 00:04:42,460\n那署長跟你請教一下因為接下來其實我們高雄啊我們高雄其實做圍牢的比做都更的多很多那當然是條件的不同啦就是我們單元的這種比較多然後也比較便利那大規模都更也\n\n14\n00:04:43,521 --> 00:05:05,630\n確實推動不易所以我在這邊還是想要再請教一下啦就是像這種自辦都更像我們谷山就有一個非常長期無法處理的自辦都更那也是基於這種住戶跟建商之間的資訊不透明或者是彼此的不信任等等的原因到現在也沒有辦法有個好的結果那我們也協調過很多次了那其實很多案例都是類似這樣\n\n15\n00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:30,105\n所以想請署長是針對這樣子的案例到底有沒有比較好的方式可以推進自辦都更的進度呢跟委員報告啦其實就法規上來講其實現在程序是完備的但事實上就會像委員所講的資訊不透明跟建商住戶之間的不信任感往往是這中間比較大的兩個因素\n\n16\n00:05:30,669 --> 00:05:45,750\n所以我們過去都有提供給地方政府類似輔導團跟專案辦公室就是希望除了政府部門以外有其他的單位能夠進入來做一些協助那所以像這一類的案子過去在各地方政府其實都有類似用這樣的機制來處理\n\n17\n00:05:47,052 --> 00:06:03,581\n那不過或許委員這個案子相對可能複雜度更高那所以這個部分我想如果有機會我想我們來了解看看他真正要怎麼樣去介入做一些協助那我們也來指導市府看看市府的以市府的角度跟專案辦公室要怎麼樣來幫忙這些住戶來做溝通\n\n18\n00:06:05,922 --> 00:06:25,755\n好這個真的要拜託那另外一件事情是這個公辦都更雖然跟國土署沒有什麼關係但是因為這是接下來高雄最大型的都更計畫就是我們高鐵高雄站那接下來會把地下連通道的都納進都更的計畫那周邊包括很多商辦然後一些旅宿還有捷運輕軌都會納進這整個大都更計畫的範圍裡面\n\n19\n00:06:30,638 --> 00:06:46,989\n那當然這主要是台鐵要處理啦包括專事專武的部分那如果接下來有一些包括如果他的一些都計的變更需要單元的需要我們國土署協助的這個也要拜託我們國土署大力來協助好嗎在這邊先拜託都市計畫會送到內政部來的設計主計的話我想我們會全力來協助\n\n20\n00:06:51,192 --> 00:06:56,857\n好太好了謝謝署長因為這會是接下來高雄非常最重點的一個計畫甚至我們卓榮泰院長稱這個會是城市的靈魂高雄城市的靈魂他是這樣子說明的那最後一點時間我們跟署長請教一下就是\n\n21\n00:07:07,505 --> 00:07:35,591\n關於這個都市更新跟氣候變遷的調適因為其實我有看到說當然這個氣候變遷之下我們城市是越來越熱加上都市的熱島效應等等所以其實我有看到德國有一個他們在把這個風浪城市的風浪有納進他們一些城市的規劃裡面那我認為是一個蠻值得參考的尤其是我們現在各縣市尤其是我們南部縣市超級熱那這種在如何不要讓城市裡面的風浪被阻塞\n\n22\n00:07:36,451 --> 00:07:38,492\n我覺得把風狼的規劃納進去是蠻好的一個指標所以是不是如果接下來有一些包括可能容積獎勵的指標啊或者是有什麼一些設計準則裡面也可以把這個城市風狼納進去呢\n\n23\n00:07:52,269 --> 00:08:07,023\n感謝委員其實城市封廊的這個概念其實在各縣市的都市設計準則裡面通常都會去做考慮但是就是看在實質審議的時候你能怎麼樣去考慮到個案那第二個就是說\n\n24\n00:08:07,623 --> 00:08:32,980\n其實城市風浪的一個氣候模擬那其實部長也非常關心所以也有指示建研所都有進行這一類的研究那我想我們到時候也可以適時的把一些研究的成果來提供給各縣市政府那他們在訂定相關的都市設計準則跟審議規範的時候能夠一併納入我想再把它放到個案的基地去做審議去做協調我想這是我們可以接下來可以努力的\n\n25\n00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:52,853\n是啊非常好那除了說給他們參考之外我相信如果有更多的鼓勵措施是更好啦畢竟很多時候如果他們有其他考量的話這一些風狼的洞據之間他們可能就會犧牲掉了或者是就沒有辦法依照來實施對就是我們會鼓勵更多元的設計方法對更多元的設計方法來解決它好謝謝謝謝署長謝謝部長謝謝黃絕委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4417\t6541\t好謝謝主席我們先請部長劉部長有請\n14276\t36461\t因為其實大家都在討論這個危老條例即將落日的問題那其實我也看到說內政部有先提了一個新的政策就是關於老屋延壽那當然老屋延壽是三年五十億可是呢其實它的內容大概就是四到六樓那比較是單元式的而且只有大概拉皮拉管這一些比較小型的一些補助跟\n38082\t40725\t跟就是處理這些小型的問題但我的問題還是說那接下來這個危老條例即將落日了就是在2027年的5月嘛那我擔心的是說在落日之後接下來還有什麼新的政策\n53579\t75636\t是我們政府有準備好要端出來的嗎可不可以先請部長跟大家簡單的說明一下謝謝黃委員我們剛在報告的時候就是有關都更危老條例即將要落日的部分也提出來包括簡化裡面的審議程序加快它的速度也就是都更跟危老不管是公辦或者是私人民辦的部分我們都會繼續來推動那再來就是您剛所提到的目前我們這個行政院要求我們把50億的特別預算\n83842\t104523\t把它拿來處理這個有關老宅延壽的部分應該是我們在今年年初的時候各界都有反應有關人老屋老的部分所以那時候內政部就想要推老宅延壽那因為推老宅延壽本來放在公務預算裡面我們也考慮到說老宅延壽要不要推出專章放在都更違老條例裡面\n105263\t133636\t現在行政院覺得說我們要加速進行所以他就是用特別預算三年的方式先讓內政部來推動所以我們推動的時候目前我們就是會跟衛福部一起推出一個類似一個行政命令或措施的方式來推動這個部分這裡面大概第一個四到六樓的部分這是外面的外觀的安全跟硬體設備但是大家忘了這裡面最重要的措施其實也就是我們在社會福利上照顧老人家最重要就是\n134076\t156715\t各宅裡面的老人家他自己本身的無障礙設施不會只有我們以前所說的像什麼電梯啦或者是這個無障礙的樓梯間不是這樣子包括剛剛所在乎的譬如說整個的那個電線的維護甚至燈光照明或者是老人家在衛浴裡面不要有那個這個滑倒這樣的措施這個我們就必須要跟衛福部一起來處理也就是說\n159694\t187000\t內政部所處理的是整個的外面看的耐震的一定的程度之下怎麼樣讓老人家可以在整棟大樓裡面是可以安全的活動但是另外一個在住宅生活品質上面能夠讓老人家可以在一般年紀比較大的人要注意一下不要有其他的跌倒受傷或者是受到其他的因素這兩個合在一起所以行政院認為說值得把它放在我們這次的特別預算來推動\n188160\t205127\t那特別預算如果通過的話其實我們按照現在衛福部跟衛福部的長照計畫跟那個內政部所提的部分就可以來辦理這個推動讓大家一起來申請好謝謝部長的說明我認為這是一個非常好的政策也希望接下來推行可以順利那這個特別預算可以順利通過\n206368\t219900\t那我還是想請教一下剛剛其實部長有說所以危老條例因為其實裡面的這個時程容積獎勵本來前三年是10%那到現在已經是第八年了剩下1%那所以是接下來還打算繼續延長這個獎勵嗎是不是請署長補充說明一下感謝委員因為\n224384\t249347\t我們過去就認為10成獎勵它是一個比較像鼓勵性質的空白授權它是應該要結束掉但是我們同時也看到危老因為當時搶著申請所以太多的小基地去申請然後有獎勵那在結構它相對比較會讓外界質疑所以我們很快就提出了規模獎勵也就是說你至少要在60平方公尺以上才能夠來申請\n250067\t265601\t那他有一點就變成取代這個10成獎勵那未來在修法裡面我想我們這一個部分我們也會繼續鼓勵他但是10成獎勵的部分我們就會直接把它做取消好 那我了解 謝謝署長的說明那再來請教一下 也是請署長\n267422\t282460\t那署長跟你請教一下因為接下來其實我們高雄啊我們高雄其實做圍牢的比做都更的多很多那當然是條件的不同啦就是我們單元的這種比較多然後也比較便利那大規模都更也\n283521\t305630\t確實推動不易所以我在這邊還是想要再請教一下啦就是像這種自辦都更像我們谷山就有一個非常長期無法處理的自辦都更那也是基於這種住戶跟建商之間的資訊不透明或者是彼此的不信任等等的原因到現在也沒有辦法有個好的結果那我們也協調過很多次了那其實很多案例都是類似這樣\n306710\t330105\t所以想請署長是針對這樣子的案例到底有沒有比較好的方式可以推進自辦都更的進度呢跟委員報告啦其實就法規上來講其實現在程序是完備的但事實上就會像委員所講的資訊不透明跟建商住戶之間的不信任感往往是這中間比較大的兩個因素\n330669\t345750\t所以我們過去都有提供給地方政府類似輔導團跟專案辦公室就是希望除了政府部門以外有其他的單位能夠進入來做一些協助那所以像這一類的案子過去在各地方政府其實都有類似用這樣的機制來處理\n347052\t363581\t那不過或許委員這個案子相對可能複雜度更高那所以這個部分我想如果有機會我想我們來了解看看他真正要怎麼樣去介入做一些協助那我們也來指導市府看看市府的以市府的角度跟專案辦公室要怎麼樣來幫忙這些住戶來做溝通\n365922\t385755\t好 這個真的要拜託那另外一件事情是這個公辦都更雖然跟國土署沒有什麼關係但是因為這是接下來高雄最大型的都更計畫就是我們高鐵高雄站那接下來會把地下連通道的都納進都更的計畫那周邊包括很多商辦然後一些旅宿還有捷運輕軌都會納進這整個大都更計畫的範圍裡面\n390638\t406989\t那當然這主要是台鐵要處理啦包括專事專武的部分那如果接下來有一些包括如果他的一些都計的變更需要單元的需要我們國土署協助的這個也要拜託我們國土署大力來協助好嗎在這邊先拜託都市計畫會送到內政部來的設計主計的話我想我們會全力來協助\n411192\t416857\t好太好了謝謝署長因為這會是接下來高雄非常最重點的一個計畫甚至我們卓榮泰院長稱這個會是城市的靈魂高雄城市的靈魂他是這樣子說明的那最後一點時間我們跟署長請教一下就是\n427505\t455591\t關於這個都市更新跟氣候變遷的調適因為其實我有看到說當然這個氣候變遷之下我們城市是越來越熱加上都市的熱島效應等等所以其實我有看到德國有一個他們在把這個風浪城市的風浪有納進他們一些城市的規劃裡面那我認為是一個蠻值得參考的尤其是我們現在各縣市尤其是我們南部縣市超級熱那這種在如何不要讓城市裡面的風浪被阻塞\n456451\t458492\t我覺得把風狼的規劃納進去是蠻好的一個指標所以是不是如果接下來有一些包括可能容積獎勵的指標啊或者是有什麼一些設計準則裡面也可以把這個城市風狼納進去呢\n472269\t487023\t感謝委員 其實城市封廊的這個概念其實在各縣市的都市設計準則裡面通常都會去做考慮但是就是看在實質審議的時候你能怎麼樣去考慮到個案那第二個就是說\n487623\t512980\t其實城市風浪的一個氣候模擬那其實部長也非常關心所以也有指示建研所都有進行這一類的研究那我想我們到時候也可以適時的把一些研究的成果來提供給各縣市政府那他們在訂定相關的都市設計準則跟審議規範的時候能夠一併納入我想再把它放到個案的基地去做審議去做協調我想這是我們可以接下來可以努力的\n513180\t532853\t是啊 非常好 那除了說給他們參考之外我相信如果有更多的鼓勵措施是更好啦畢竟很多時候如果他們有其他考量的話這一些風狼的洞據之間他們可能就會犧牲掉了或者是就沒有辦法依照來實施對 就是我們會鼓勵更多元的設計方法對 更多元的設計方法來解決它好 謝謝 謝謝署長 謝謝部長謝謝黃絕委員\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我們先請部長劉部長有請\n因為其實大家都在討論這個危老條例即將落日的問題那其實我也看到說內政部有先提了一個新的政策就是關於老屋延壽那當然老屋延壽是三年五十億可是呢其實它的內容大概就是四到六樓那比較是單元式的而且只有大概拉皮拉管這一些比較小型的一些補助跟\n跟就是處理這些小型的問題但我的問題還是說那接下來這個危老條例即將落日了就是在2027年的5月嘛那我擔心的是說在落日之後接下來還有什麼新的政策\n是我們政府有準備好要端出來的嗎可不可以先請部長跟大家簡單的說明一下謝謝黃委員我們剛在報告的時候就是有關都更危老條例即將要落日的部分也提出來包括簡化裡面的審議程序加快它的速度也就是都更跟危老不管是公辦或者是私人民辦的部分我們都會繼續來推動那再來就是您剛所提到的目前我們這個行政院要求我們把50億的特別預算\n把它拿來處理這個有關老宅延壽的部分應該是我們在今年年初的時候各界都有反應有關人老屋老的部分所以那時候內政部就想要推老宅延壽那因為推老宅延壽本來放在公務預算裡面我們也考慮到說老宅延壽要不要推出專章放在都更違老條例裡面\n現在行政院覺得說我們要加速進行所以他就是用特別預算三年的方式先讓內政部來推動所以我們推動的時候目前我們就是會跟衛福部一起推出一個類似一個行政命令或措施的方式來推動這個部分這裡面大概第一個四到六樓的部分這是外面的外觀的安全跟硬體設備但是大家忘了這裡面最重要的措施其實也就是我們在社會福利上照顧老人家最重要就是\n各宅裡面的老人家他自己本身的無障礙設施不會只有我們以前所說的像什麼電梯啦或者是這個無障礙的樓梯間不是這樣子包括剛剛所在乎的譬如說整個的那個電線的維護甚至燈光照明或者是老人家在衛浴裡面不要有那個這個滑倒這樣的措施這個我們就必須要跟衛福部一起來處理也就是說\n內政部所處理的是整個的外面看的耐震的一定的程度之下怎麼樣讓老人家可以在整棟大樓裡面是可以安全的活動但是另外一個在住宅生活品質上面能夠讓老人家可以在一般年紀比較大的人要注意一下不要有其他的跌倒受傷或者是受到其他的因素這兩個合在一起所以行政院認為說值得把它放在我們這次的特別預算來推動\n那特別預算如果通過的話其實我們按照現在衛福部跟衛福部的長照計畫跟那個內政部所提的部分就可以來辦理這個推動讓大家一起來申請好謝謝部長的說明我認為這是一個非常好的政策也希望接下來推行可以順利那這個特別預算可以順利通過\n那我還是想請教一下剛剛其實部長有說所以危老條例因為其實裡面的這個時程容積獎勵本來前三年是10%那到現在已經是第八年了剩下1%那所以是接下來還打算繼續延長這個獎勵嗎是不是請署長補充說明一下感謝委員因為\n我們過去就認為10成獎勵它是一個比較像鼓勵性質的空白授權它是應該要結束掉但是我們同時也看到危老因為當時搶著申請所以太多的小基地去申請然後有獎勵那在結構它相對比較會讓外界質疑所以我們很快就提出了規模獎勵也就是說你至少要在60平方公尺以上才能夠來申請\n那他有一點就變成取代這個10成獎勵那未來在修法裡面我想我們這一個部分我們也會繼續鼓勵他但是10成獎勵的部分我們就會直接把它做取消好 那我了解 謝謝署長的說明那再來請教一下 也是請署長\n那署長跟你請教一下因為接下來其實我們高雄啊我們高雄其實做圍牢的比做都更的多很多那當然是條件的不同啦就是我們單元的這種比較多然後也比較便利那大規模都更也\n確實推動不易所以我在這邊還是想要再請教一下啦就是像這種自辦都更像我們谷山就有一個非常長期無法處理的自辦都更那也是基於這種住戶跟建商之間的資訊不透明或者是彼此的不信任等等的原因到現在也沒有辦法有個好的結果那我們也協調過很多次了那其實很多案例都是類似這樣\n所以想請署長是針對這樣子的案例到底有沒有比較好的方式可以推進自辦都更的進度呢跟委員報告啦其實就法規上來講其實現在程序是完備的但事實上就會像委員所講的資訊不透明跟建商住戶之間的不信任感往往是這中間比較大的兩個因素\n所以我們過去都有提供給地方政府類似輔導團跟專案辦公室就是希望除了政府部門以外有其他的單位能夠進入來做一些協助那所以像這一類的案子過去在各地方政府其實都有類似用這樣的機制來處理\n那不過或許委員這個案子相對可能複雜度更高那所以這個部分我想如果有機會我想我們來了解看看他真正要怎麼樣去介入做一些協助那我們也來指導市府看看市府的以市府的角度跟專案辦公室要怎麼樣來幫忙這些住戶來做溝通\n好 這個真的要拜託那另外一件事情是這個公辦都更雖然跟國土署沒有什麼關係但是因為這是接下來高雄最大型的都更計畫就是我們高鐵高雄站那接下來會把地下連通道的都納進都更的計畫那周邊包括很多商辦然後一些旅宿還有捷運輕軌都會納進這整個大都更計畫的範圍裡面\n那當然這主要是台鐵要處理啦包括專事專武的部分那如果接下來有一些包括如果他的一些都計的變更需要單元的需要我們國土署協助的這個也要拜託我們國土署大力來協助好嗎在這邊先拜託都市計畫會送到內政部來的設計主計的話我想我們會全力來協助\n好太好了謝謝署長因為這會是接下來高雄非常最重點的一個計畫甚至我們卓榮泰院長稱這個會是城市的靈魂高雄城市的靈魂他是這樣子說明的那最後一點時間我們跟署長請教一下就是\n關於這個都市更新跟氣候變遷的調適因為其實我有看到說當然這個氣候變遷之下我們城市是越來越熱加上都市的熱島效應等等所以其實我有看到德國有一個他們在把這個風浪城市的風浪有納進他們一些城市的規劃裡面那我認為是一個蠻值得參考的尤其是我們現在各縣市尤其是我們南部縣市超級熱那這種在如何不要讓城市裡面的風浪被阻塞\n我覺得把風狼的規劃納進去是蠻好的一個指標所以是不是如果接下來有一些包括可能容積獎勵的指標啊或者是有什麼一些設計準則裡面也可以把這個城市風狼納進去呢\n感謝委員 其實城市封廊的這個概念其實在各縣市的都市設計準則裡面通常都會去做考慮但是就是看在實質審議的時候你能怎麼樣去考慮到個案那第二個就是說\n其實城市風浪的一個氣候模擬那其實部長也非常關心所以也有指示建研所都有進行這一類的研究那我想我們到時候也可以適時的把一些研究的成果來提供給各縣市政府那他們在訂定相關的都市設計準則跟審議規範的時候能夠一併納入我想再把它放到個案的基地去做審議去做協調我想這是我們可以接下來可以努力的\n是啊 非常好 那除了說給他們參考之外我相信如果有更多的鼓勵措施是更好啦畢竟很多時候如果他們有其他考量的話這一些風狼的洞據之間他們可能就會犧牲掉了或者是就沒有辦法依照來實施對 就是我們會鼓勵更多元的設計方法對 更多元的設計方法來解決它好 謝謝 謝謝署長 謝謝部長謝謝黃絕委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.417 --> 00:06.541\n好謝謝主席我們先請部長劉部長有請\n\n00:14.276 --> 00:36.461\n因為其實大家都在討論這個危老條例即將落日的問題那其實我也看到說內政部有先提了一個新的政策就是關於老屋延壽那當然老屋延壽是三年五十億可是呢其實它的內容大概就是四到六樓那比較是單元式的而且只有大概拉皮拉管這一些比較小型的一些補助跟\n\n00:38.082 --> 00:40.725\n跟就是處理這些小型的問題但我的問題還是說那接下來這個危老條例即將落日了就是在2027年的5月嘛那我擔心的是說在落日之後接下來還有什麼新的政策\n\n00:53.579 --> 01:15.636\n是我們政府有準備好要端出來的嗎可不可以先請部長跟大家簡單的說明一下謝謝黃委員我們剛在報告的時候就是有關都更危老條例即將要落日的部分也提出來包括簡化裡面的審議程序加快它的速度也就是都更跟危老不管是公辦或者是私人民辦的部分我們都會繼續來推動那再來就是您剛所提到的目前我們這個行政院要求我們把50億的特別預算\n\n01:23.842 --> 01:44.523\n把它拿來處理這個有關老宅延壽的部分應該是我們在今年年初的時候各界都有反應有關人老屋老的部分所以那時候內政部就想要推老宅延壽那因為推老宅延壽本來放在公務預算裡面我們也考慮到說老宅延壽要不要推出專章放在都更違老條例裡面\n\n01:45.263 --> 02:13.636\n現在行政院覺得說我們要加速進行所以他就是用特別預算三年的方式先讓內政部來推動所以我們推動的時候目前我們就是會跟衛福部一起推出一個類似一個行政命令或措施的方式來推動這個部分這裡面大概第一個四到六樓的部分這是外面的外觀的安全跟硬體設備但是大家忘了這裡面最重要的措施其實也就是我們在社會福利上照顧老人家最重要就是\n\n02:14.076 --> 02:36.715\n各宅裡面的老人家他自己本身的無障礙設施不會只有我們以前所說的像什麼電梯啦或者是這個無障礙的樓梯間不是這樣子包括剛剛所在乎的譬如說整個的那個電線的維護甚至燈光照明或者是老人家在衛浴裡面不要有那個這個滑倒這樣的措施這個我們就必須要跟衛福部一起來處理也就是說\n\n02:39.694 --> 03:07.000\n內政部所處理的是整個的外面看的耐震的一定的程度之下怎麼樣讓老人家可以在整棟大樓裡面是可以安全的活動但是另外一個在住宅生活品質上面能夠讓老人家可以在一般年紀比較大的人要注意一下不要有其他的跌倒受傷或者是受到其他的因素這兩個合在一起所以行政院認為說值得把它放在我們這次的特別預算來推動\n\n03:08.160 --> 03:25.127\n那特別預算如果通過的話其實我們按照現在衛福部跟衛福部的長照計畫跟那個內政部所提的部分就可以來辦理這個推動讓大家一起來申請好謝謝部長的說明我認為這是一個非常好的政策也希望接下來推行可以順利那這個特別預算可以順利通過\n\n03:26.368 --> 03:39.900\n那我還是想請教一下剛剛其實部長有說所以危老條例因為其實裡面的這個時程容積獎勵本來前三年是10%那到現在已經是第八年了剩下1%那所以是接下來還打算繼續延長這個獎勵嗎是不是請署長補充說明一下感謝委員因為\n\n03:44.384 --> 04:09.347\n我們過去就認為10成獎勵它是一個比較像鼓勵性質的空白授權它是應該要結束掉但是我們同時也看到危老因為當時搶著申請所以太多的小基地去申請然後有獎勵那在結構它相對比較會讓外界質疑所以我們很快就提出了規模獎勵也就是說你至少要在60平方公尺以上才能夠來申請\n\n04:10.067 --> 04:25.601\n那他有一點就變成取代這個10成獎勵那未來在修法裡面我想我們這一個部分我們也會繼續鼓勵他但是10成獎勵的部分我們就會直接把它做取消好那我了解謝謝署長的說明那再來請教一下也是請署長\n\n04:27.422 --> 04:42.460\n那署長跟你請教一下因為接下來其實我們高雄啊我們高雄其實做圍牢的比做都更的多很多那當然是條件的不同啦就是我們單元的這種比較多然後也比較便利那大規模都更也\n\n04:43.521 --> 05:05.630\n確實推動不易所以我在這邊還是想要再請教一下啦就是像這種自辦都更像我們谷山就有一個非常長期無法處理的自辦都更那也是基於這種住戶跟建商之間的資訊不透明或者是彼此的不信任等等的原因到現在也沒有辦法有個好的結果那我們也協調過很多次了那其實很多案例都是類似這樣\n\n05:06.710 --> 05:30.105\n所以想請署長是針對這樣子的案例到底有沒有比較好的方式可以推進自辦都更的進度呢跟委員報告啦其實就法規上來講其實現在程序是完備的但事實上就會像委員所講的資訊不透明跟建商住戶之間的不信任感往往是這中間比較大的兩個因素\n\n05:30.669 --> 05:45.750\n所以我們過去都有提供給地方政府類似輔導團跟專案辦公室就是希望除了政府部門以外有其他的單位能夠進入來做一些協助那所以像這一類的案子過去在各地方政府其實都有類似用這樣的機制來處理\n\n05:47.052 --> 06:03.581\n那不過或許委員這個案子相對可能複雜度更高那所以這個部分我想如果有機會我想我們來了解看看他真正要怎麼樣去介入做一些協助那我們也來指導市府看看市府的以市府的角度跟專案辦公室要怎麼樣來幫忙這些住戶來做溝通\n\n06:05.922 --> 06:25.755\n好這個真的要拜託那另外一件事情是這個公辦都更雖然跟國土署沒有什麼關係但是因為這是接下來高雄最大型的都更計畫就是我們高鐵高雄站那接下來會把地下連通道的都納進都更的計畫那周邊包括很多商辦然後一些旅宿還有捷運輕軌都會納進這整個大都更計畫的範圍裡面\n\n06:30.638 --> 06:46.989\n那當然這主要是台鐵要處理啦包括專事專武的部分那如果接下來有一些包括如果他的一些都計的變更需要單元的需要我們國土署協助的這個也要拜託我們國土署大力來協助好嗎在這邊先拜託都市計畫會送到內政部來的設計主計的話我想我們會全力來協助\n\n06:51.192 --> 06:56.857\n好太好了謝謝署長因為這會是接下來高雄非常最重點的一個計畫甚至我們卓榮泰院長稱這個會是城市的靈魂高雄城市的靈魂他是這樣子說明的那最後一點時間我們跟署長請教一下就是\n\n07:07.505 --> 07:35.591\n關於這個都市更新跟氣候變遷的調適因為其實我有看到說當然這個氣候變遷之下我們城市是越來越熱加上都市的熱島效應等等所以其實我有看到德國有一個他們在把這個風浪城市的風浪有納進他們一些城市的規劃裡面那我認為是一個蠻值得參考的尤其是我們現在各縣市尤其是我們南部縣市超級熱那這種在如何不要讓城市裡面的風浪被阻塞\n\n07:36.451 --> 07:38.492\n我覺得把風狼的規劃納進去是蠻好的一個指標所以是不是如果接下來有一些包括可能容積獎勵的指標啊或者是有什麼一些設計準則裡面也可以把這個城市風狼納進去呢\n\n07:52.269 --> 08:07.023\n感謝委員其實城市封廊的這個概念其實在各縣市的都市設計準則裡面通常都會去做考慮但是就是看在實質審議的時候你能怎麼樣去考慮到個案那第二個就是說\n\n08:07.623 --> 08:32.980\n其實城市風浪的一個氣候模擬那其實部長也非常關心所以也有指示建研所都有進行這一類的研究那我想我們到時候也可以適時的把一些研究的成果來提供給各縣市政府那他們在訂定相關的都市設計準則跟審議規範的時候能夠一併納入我想再把它放到個案的基地去做審議去做協調我想這是我們可以接下來可以努力的\n\n08:33.180 --> 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