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00:01:50,061\n那還有到到這個恆春那甚至到相關的這個萬丹什麼也都在有研力在設置那所以我們這樣用逐步的佈建只要地方需求是很明確的這個我們都會去努力我想我們都市的一個進步我們也需要做很多的一個超前的規劃跟部署啦那當然目前\n\n6\n00:01:50,741 --> 00:02:07,824\n我們屏東市跟潮州都已經在興建當中那另外還有規劃了三個地方那其中恆春的部分112年就已經我們已經完成絕標待開工但到目前為止好像還沒有一個進度目前有遇到什麼困境嗎\n\n7\n00:02:09,834 --> 00:02:33,853\n這麼說因為他前期就會有這一個相關的這個規劃設計還有這一個都市設計的審查那所以我們大概都會有給他一個預定的期間所以不會說絕標完馬上開工因為他後面還有細部設計跟相關的審查要進行所以五雷照我們的進度在走有都有照進度在執行蘇良大概什麼時候可以動工這部分看住都這邊有沒有比較明確的時間亨村的部分對\n\n8\n00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:55,884\n八五園恆春當然絕標現在在設計中要申請建造那那個通過之後就會舉辦開工典禮今年會有機會嗎我們拚看看拚今年拚這個其他的部分包含我們潮州還有其他\n\n9\n00:02:56,528 --> 00:03:08,096\n科學園區周邊的萬丹我想未來我們都是有計畫能夠進行配合縣政府我們就建議研議看適合的地點跟那個需求啦我想還是我們趕快來盤點啦那這部分我也會請我們縣政府這邊來配合一下啦那另外我想\n\n10\n00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:29,446\n要謝謝部長我們去年的時候針對我們這個整個肯定國家公園有一些的洋傘之論這些問題我想都有目前都有一個很好的一個改善的一個方案那但是現在還是有幾個問題要請部長這邊來幫忙部長我想過去我們國家公園這個\n\n11\n00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:56,787\n墾丁國家公園已經成立41年了也是我們全國第一個國家公園但是過去因為我們著重在一個生態保育的一個觀念裡面但是現在我們的觀光發展已經到一個階段了那我想我們國家公園署成立之後也應該把觀光的一個要件應該併在我們的一個工作的一個項目裡面部長認同嗎\n\n12\n00:03:59,588 --> 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