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00:00:22,470\n好謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請部長部長好委員好這個因為今天時間不多直接進入主題好剛剛很多委員也有特別提到事實上我們當然您是去年才擔任交通部部長\n\n2\n00:00:23,564 --> 00:00:44,243\n那一磅接一磅事實上在過去十幾年來不斷的透過我們道務品質的改善標線標誌的優化甚至有些道安的教育講協不斷的推動但是我們看對於整體的一個事故交通事故來講從100年那一年有31.4萬人受傷到\n\n3\n00:00:50,288 --> 00:01:07,806\n去年最高點那今年還有52.4萬大概成長了將近超過20萬人受傷那死亡的人數也在上面就感覺起起伏伏的另外一個事故的比例更為明顯100年是20.6萬件\n\n4\n00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:25,258\n那到了112年最高峰的時候到達了40.3萬件成長比例高達70%那部長你先整體說一下啦因為我看到你有蠻多的發言就針對但是回歸到\n\n5\n00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:45,420\n事故當然有很多價值因素或者什麼其他的因素都有那你覺得這個比去年來講我們是微幅向下修正你覺得現在大概整個有什麼樣的一個方法能夠更有效的去改善這樣的一個情況跟減少這樣傷亡的數字\n\n6\n00:01:46,021 --> 00:02:04,361\n您說明一下報告委員其實要改善交通的安全方方面面其實很多事要做我們剛剛最簡單的四個一教育層面然後工程面然後我們執法面監理面各方面我們都必須要做那我們在數據上面看起來確實在一一二年是非常的高\n\n7\n00:02:04,861 --> 00:02:28,659\n那113年不管是受傷或者是這個死亡的人數有稍稍的降低那我們當然不滿意也不滿足啦我們必須要加快所有層面的努力那也感謝委員其實你也都一直很關注這個議題大家都關注的狀況底下其實我們在今年的數據看起來會相對於過去看起來趨勢會更好一點那我們要做的路口的設置一定要把它先做好\n\n8\n00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:58,351\n所以我們799處的改善已經先做了那我們省道的2000處的這個路口改善我們也先做了不過後續還有更細緻化的內容要去做那很多啦很多事情其實可能三言兩語講不完好這個部長其實這個中央地方啦因為地方也負責非常多的一個交通的不管是他的規劃設計執法的一個工作啦但是因為整個政策的一個帶動的一個方向我還是希望交通部能夠有具體的一個方向\n\n9\n00:02:59,171 --> 00:03:20,148\n第二個我們再把這些事故縮短到在人行道把它縮小人行道發生的交通事故就是人走在正式人行道或者標線人行道等等還發生了事故我們來看一下在過去大概將近10年104年統計到今年的3月將近10年多一點的時間\n\n10\n00:03:21,269 --> 00:03:36,220\n先看一下總數總件數5700多件就是發生事故是在行人走在人行道上面發生的其實這是很不應該的其中也造成了48人死亡\n\n11\n00:03:38,161 --> 00:03:52,327\n7029人受傷這事故造成的一個傷亡的比例我是覺得蠻高的那當然看他的運劇來分類的話機慢車的比例是最多的機慢車包括了因為\n\n12\n00:03:52,927 --> 00:04:20,825\n很多是不是因為在人行道或者騎樓停車順便要出入的過程中還是有很多的一個情況發生這樣的一個行人在人行道發生事故這個部分今天營建署有來嗎營建署蔡組長你來說一下好不好因為我看到你們的一個數字給我的數字這關鍵點就是說我們這十年發生這樣的一個情況然後呢\n\n13\n00:04:22,028 --> 00:04:49,971\n他的背景因為國土署你們是以人本的基礎不管是投入資金希望在整個道路上面分工上面人本的部分跟你關係比較大那你這邊特別數據說從100年開始到113年13年間我們人行道這是不得了從3200多公里到剛剛你給我的數據113年年底的話到了11000\n\n14\n00:04:52,062 --> 00:05:04,034\n多公里的人行道所以成長了3.4倍啊成長3.4倍那你要說一下這成長3.4倍對於這個人行道發現事故的話你覺得是主要什麼原因啊\n\n15\n00:05:06,260 --> 00:05:35,465\n你來表達一下你們努力了半天也成長了3.4倍那人行道發生事故的話還是你說是交通部的事沒關係我請交通部來說人行道的事故剛剛看委員所提供的這個表格其實看起來確實是汽機車行駛人行道所造成的行人的傷亡好那再一個問題你就可以稍微休息就是你11000多公里在這幾年快速成長有多少是標線型的人行道\n\n16\n00:05:37,008 --> 00:05:53,508\n有多少是標線型人行道嘛就加分之加嘛就油漆一劃下去人行道就多個兩公里大概有沒有去統計有統計標線型的嗎標線型目前沒有統計那你要統計一下好不好好那這個部分我再請部長\n\n17\n00:05:55,267 --> 00:06:18,263\n我要拜託您一件事啦至少我在桃園跟很多縣市看到這幾年要去突破你必須除了新有新的道路它就有人行道很多老舊的以前已經很有歷史的道路它就是這麼窄啦它真的沒有辦法有時候在水溝蓋弄平整就標線型的人行道就出來了我是不是能拜託您一件事啦\n\n18\n00:06:19,243 --> 00:06:46,004\n因為標線性人行道剛開始做先實驗性質我可以接受但是如果半年一年以後發覺確實有功能要長久來做行人通行的這個部分我要再拜託尤其從評估從通過的人最多的開始做起來加什麼第一個要不然最簡單是防撞感但是防撞感只是警示作用不太防撞那第二個是防撞\n\n19\n00:06:47,484 --> 00:07:14,109\n這個欄杆這在這個的部分我建議就是當標線型人行道已經劃設成為固定的能不能從人最多通行的評估開始來做防撞桿或者防撞欄杆這個部分我們希望交通部或是說應該是國土署你們未來補助也針對這個議題下去來幫忙甚至也能夠加入原石如果它變固定的\n\n20\n00:07:14,989 --> 00:07:41,797\n你要加一個路源時可不可以朝這個方向來做呢好報告委員這個部分我們也會來補助地方政府如果地方政府願意這麼做的話在經費上有需要交通部跟內政部國土署我們一起來協助他們好這個是確實是有需要好的那我也拜託國土署你要先統計啊你還是要真的要統計標線型的有多少然後各縣市呢提供人通勤最多的可能學校旁邊或是什麼我是覺得要開始去做\n\n21\n00:07:42,617 --> 00:08:00,971\n那最後一個還是要拜託這要跟地方政府一起努力因為在比較有歷史的道路在過去的房屋其實它的設計都沒有人行道但是透過騎樓來通行的可是現在狀況因為我前幾天有民眾問我說某一條路奇怪怎麼都走在\n\n22\n00:08:02,192 --> 00:08:23,082\n快車道上面然後我就想其實你應該走在騎樓裡面只是因為時代久遠了騎樓它就蓋起來變店面了所以我是覺得第一個針對於有功能的騎樓要拜託要補助去做一個整平對於重要道路如果被違建\n\n23\n00:08:24,002 --> 00:08:49,629\n去無法貫通的我也要建議要鼓勵鼓勵來做至少指標性的這麼多人要通行重點開始去做這就是我個人的一個建議可不可以朝這個政策面去引導一下報告員我所知道國土署他們針對這個騎樓的貫通跟整平他們有一定的預算在補助地方所以可以鼓勵地方盡量做那中央的部分來協助經費的部分我們都會來做\n\n24\n00:08:50,694 --> 00:08:54,888\n好來大家一起努力尤其標線型希望能夠加這個好不好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n249\t22470\t好 謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請部長部長好委員好這個因為今天時間不多直接進入主題好剛剛很多委員也有特別提到事實上我們當然您是去年才擔任交通部部長\n23564\t44243\t那一磅接一磅事實上在過去十幾年來不斷的透過我們道務品質的改善標線標誌的優化甚至有些道安的教育講協不斷的推動但是我們看對於整體的一個事故交通事故來講從100年那一年有31.4萬人受傷到\n50288\t67806\t去年最高點那今年還有52.4萬大概成長了將近超過20萬人受傷那死亡的人數也在上面就感覺起起伏伏的另外一個事故的比例更為明顯100年是20.6萬件\n71750\t85258\t那到了112年最高峰的時候到達了40.3萬件成長比例高達70%那部長你先整體說一下啦因為我看到你有蠻多的發言就針對但是回歸到\n86460\t105420\t事故當然有很多價值因素或者什麼其他的因素都有那你覺得這個比去年來講我們是微幅向下修正你覺得現在大概整個有什麼樣的一個方法能夠更有效的去改善這樣的一個情況跟減少這樣傷亡的數字\n106021\t124361\t您說明一下報告委員其實要改善交通的安全方方面面其實很多事要做我們剛剛最簡單的四個一教育層面然後工程面然後我們執法面監理面各方面我們都必須要做那我們在數據上面看起來確實在一一二年是非常的高\n124861\t148659\t那113年不管是受傷或者是這個死亡的人數有稍稍的降低那我們當然不滿意也不滿足啦我們必須要加快所有層面的努力那也感謝委員其實你也都一直很關注這個議題大家都關注的狀況底下其實我們在今年的數據看起來會相對於過去看起來趨勢會更好一點那我們要做的路口的設置一定要把它先做好\n148919\t178351\t所以我們799處的改善已經先做了那我們省道的2000處的這個路口改善我們也先做了不過後續還有更細緻化的內容要去做那很多啦很多事情其實可能三言兩語講不完好 這個部長其實這個中央地方啦因為地方也負責非常多的一個交通的不管是他的規劃設計執法的一個工作啦但是因為整個政策的一個帶動的一個方向我還是希望交通部能夠有具體的一個方向\n179171\t200148\t第二個我們再把這些事故縮短到在人行道把它縮小人行道發生的交通事故就是人走在正式人行道或者標線人行道等等還發生了事故我們來看一下在過去大概將近10年104年統計到今年的3月將近10年多一點的時間\n201269\t216220\t先看一下總數總件數5700多件就是發生事故是在行人走在人行道上面發生的其實這是很不應該的其中也造成了48人死亡\n218161\t232327\t7029人受傷這事故造成的一個傷亡的比例我是覺得蠻高的那當然看他的運劇來分類的話機慢車的比例是最多的機慢車包括了因為\n232927\t260825\t很多是不是因為在人行道或者騎樓停車順便要出入的過程中還是有很多的一個情況發生這樣的一個行人在人行道發生事故這個部分今天營建署有來嗎營建署 蔡組長你來說一下好不好因為我看到你們的一個數字給我的數字這關鍵點就是說我們這十年發生這樣的一個情況然後呢\n262028\t289971\t他的背景因為國土署你們是以人本的基礎不管是投入資金希望在整個道路上面分工上面人本的部分跟你關係比較大那你這邊特別數據說從100年開始到113年13年間我們人行道這是不得了從3200多公里到剛剛你給我的數據113年年底的話到了11000\n292062\t304034\t多公里的人行道所以成長了3.4倍啊成長3.4倍那你要說一下這成長3.4倍對於這個人行道發現事故的話你覺得是主要什麼原因啊\n306260\t335465\t你來表達一下你們努力了半天也成長了3.4倍那人行道發生事故的話還是你說是交通部的事沒關係我請交通部來說人行道的事故剛剛看委員所提供的這個表格其實看起來確實是汽機車行駛人行道所造成的行人的傷亡好那再一個問題你就可以稍微休息就是你11000多公里在這幾年快速成長有多少是標線型的人行道\n337008\t353508\t有多少是標線型人行道嘛就加分之加嘛就油漆一劃下去人行道就多個兩公里大概有沒有去統計有統計標線型的嗎標線型目前沒有統計那你要統計一下好不好好那這個部分我再請部長\n355267\t378263\t我要拜託您一件事啦至少我在桃園跟很多縣市看到這幾年要去突破你必須除了新有新的道路它就有人行道很多老舊的以前已經很有歷史的道路它就是這麼窄啦它真的沒有辦法有時候在水溝蓋弄平整就標線型的人行道就出來了我是不是能拜託您一件事啦\n379243\t406004\t因為標線性人行道剛開始做先實驗性質我可以接受但是如果半年一年以後發覺確實有功能要長久來做行人通行的這個部分我要再拜託尤其從評估從通過的人最多的開始做起來加什麼第一個要不然最簡單是防撞感但是防撞感只是警示作用不太防撞那第二個是防撞\n407484\t434109\t這個欄杆這在這個的部分我建議就是當標線型人行道已經劃設成為固定的能不能從人最多通行的評估開始來做防撞桿或者防撞欄杆這個部分我們希望交通部或是說應該是國土署你們未來補助也針對這個議題下去來幫忙甚至也能夠加入原石如果它變固定的\n434989\t461797\t你要加一個路源時 可不可以朝這個方向來做呢好 報告委員 這個部分我們也會來補助地方政府如果地方政府願意這麼做的話在經費上有需要 交通部跟內政部國土署我們一起來協助他們好 這個是確實是有需要好的 那我也拜託國土署你要先統計啊你還是要真的要統計標線型的有多少然後各縣市呢 提供人通勤最多的可能學校旁邊或是什麼我是覺得要開始去做\n462617\t480971\t那最後一個還是要拜託這要跟地方政府一起努力因為在比較有歷史的道路在過去的房屋其實它的設計都沒有人行道但是透過騎樓來通行的可是現在狀況因為我前幾天有民眾問我說某一條路奇怪怎麼都走在\n482192\t503082\t快車道上面然後我就想其實你應該走在騎樓裡面只是因為時代久遠了騎樓它就蓋起來變店面了所以我是覺得第一個針對於有功能的騎樓要拜託要補助去做一個整平對於重要道路如果被違建\n504002\t529629\t去無法貫通的我也要建議要鼓勵鼓勵來做至少指標性的這麼多人要通行重點開始去做這就是我個人的一個建議可不可以朝這個政策面去引導一下報告員我所知道國土署他們針對這個騎樓的貫通跟整平他們有一定的預算在補助地方所以可以鼓勵地方盡量做那中央的部分來協助經費的部分我們都會來做\n530694\t534888\t好 來大家一起努力尤其標線型希望能夠加這個好不好 謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請部長部長好委員好這個因為今天時間不多直接進入主題好剛剛很多委員也有特別提到事實上我們當然您是去年才擔任交通部部長\n那一磅接一磅事實上在過去十幾年來不斷的透過我們道務品質的改善標線標誌的優化甚至有些道安的教育講協不斷的推動但是我們看對於整體的一個事故交通事故來講從100年那一年有31.4萬人受傷到\n去年最高點那今年還有52.4萬大概成長了將近超過20萬人受傷那死亡的人數也在上面就感覺起起伏伏的另外一個事故的比例更為明顯100年是20.6萬件\n那到了112年最高峰的時候到達了40.3萬件成長比例高達70%那部長你先整體說一下啦因為我看到你有蠻多的發言就針對但是回歸到\n事故當然有很多價值因素或者什麼其他的因素都有那你覺得這個比去年來講我們是微幅向下修正你覺得現在大概整個有什麼樣的一個方法能夠更有效的去改善這樣的一個情況跟減少這樣傷亡的數字\n您說明一下報告委員其實要改善交通的安全方方面面其實很多事要做我們剛剛最簡單的四個一教育層面然後工程面然後我們執法面監理面各方面我們都必須要做那我們在數據上面看起來確實在一一二年是非常的高\n那113年不管是受傷或者是這個死亡的人數有稍稍的降低那我們當然不滿意也不滿足啦我們必須要加快所有層面的努力那也感謝委員其實你也都一直很關注這個議題大家都關注的狀況底下其實我們在今年的數據看起來會相對於過去看起來趨勢會更好一點那我們要做的路口的設置一定要把它先做好\n所以我們799處的改善已經先做了那我們省道的2000處的這個路口改善我們也先做了不過後續還有更細緻化的內容要去做那很多啦很多事情其實可能三言兩語講不完好 這個部長其實這個中央地方啦因為地方也負責非常多的一個交通的不管是他的規劃設計執法的一個工作啦但是因為整個政策的一個帶動的一個方向我還是希望交通部能夠有具體的一個方向\n第二個我們再把這些事故縮短到在人行道把它縮小人行道發生的交通事故就是人走在正式人行道或者標線人行道等等還發生了事故我們來看一下在過去大概將近10年104年統計到今年的3月將近10年多一點的時間\n先看一下總數總件數5700多件就是發生事故是在行人走在人行道上面發生的其實這是很不應該的其中也造成了48人死亡\n7029人受傷這事故造成的一個傷亡的比例我是覺得蠻高的那當然看他的運劇來分類的話機慢車的比例是最多的機慢車包括了因為\n很多是不是因為在人行道或者騎樓停車順便要出入的過程中還是有很多的一個情況發生這樣的一個行人在人行道發生事故這個部分今天營建署有來嗎營建署 蔡組長你來說一下好不好因為我看到你們的一個數字給我的數字這關鍵點就是說我們這十年發生這樣的一個情況然後呢\n他的背景因為國土署你們是以人本的基礎不管是投入資金希望在整個道路上面分工上面人本的部分跟你關係比較大那你這邊特別數據說從100年開始到113年13年間我們人行道這是不得了從3200多公里到剛剛你給我的數據113年年底的話到了11000\n多公里的人行道所以成長了3.4倍啊成長3.4倍那你要說一下這成長3.4倍對於這個人行道發現事故的話你覺得是主要什麼原因啊\n你來表達一下你們努力了半天也成長了3.4倍那人行道發生事故的話還是你說是交通部的事沒關係我請交通部來說人行道的事故剛剛看委員所提供的這個表格其實看起來確實是汽機車行駛人行道所造成的行人的傷亡好那再一個問題你就可以稍微休息就是你11000多公里在這幾年快速成長有多少是標線型的人行道\n有多少是標線型人行道嘛就加分之加嘛就油漆一劃下去人行道就多個兩公里大概有沒有去統計有統計標線型的嗎標線型目前沒有統計那你要統計一下好不好好那這個部分我再請部長\n我要拜託您一件事啦至少我在桃園跟很多縣市看到這幾年要去突破你必須除了新有新的道路它就有人行道很多老舊的以前已經很有歷史的道路它就是這麼窄啦它真的沒有辦法有時候在水溝蓋弄平整就標線型的人行道就出來了我是不是能拜託您一件事啦\n因為標線性人行道剛開始做先實驗性質我可以接受但是如果半年一年以後發覺確實有功能要長久來做行人通行的這個部分我要再拜託尤其從評估從通過的人最多的開始做起來加什麼第一個要不然最簡單是防撞感但是防撞感只是警示作用不太防撞那第二個是防撞\n這個欄杆這在這個的部分我建議就是當標線型人行道已經劃設成為固定的能不能從人最多通行的評估開始來做防撞桿或者防撞欄杆這個部分我們希望交通部或是說應該是國土署你們未來補助也針對這個議題下去來幫忙甚至也能夠加入原石如果它變固定的\n你要加一個路源時 可不可以朝這個方向來做呢好 報告委員 這個部分我們也會來補助地方政府如果地方政府願意這麼做的話在經費上有需要 交通部跟內政部國土署我們一起來協助他們好 這個是確實是有需要好的 那我也拜託國土署你要先統計啊你還是要真的要統計標線型的有多少然後各縣市呢 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02:04.361\n您說明一下報告委員其實要改善交通的安全方方面面其實很多事要做我們剛剛最簡單的四個一教育層面然後工程面然後我們執法面監理面各方面我們都必須要做那我們在數據上面看起來確實在一一二年是非常的高\n\n02:04.861 --> 02:28.659\n那113年不管是受傷或者是這個死亡的人數有稍稍的降低那我們當然不滿意也不滿足啦我們必須要加快所有層面的努力那也感謝委員其實你也都一直很關注這個議題大家都關注的狀況底下其實我們在今年的數據看起來會相對於過去看起來趨勢會更好一點那我們要做的路口的設置一定要把它先做好\n\n02:28.919 --> 02:58.351\n所以我們799處的改善已經先做了那我們省道的2000處的這個路口改善我們也先做了不過後續還有更細緻化的內容要去做那很多啦很多事情其實可能三言兩語講不完好這個部長其實這個中央地方啦因為地方也負責非常多的一個交通的不管是他的規劃設計執法的一個工作啦但是因為整個政策的一個帶動的一個方向我還是希望交通部能夠有具體的一個方向\n\n02:59.171 --> 03:20.148\n第二個我們再把這些事故縮短到在人行道把它縮小人行道發生的交通事故就是人走在正式人行道或者標線人行道等等還發生了事故我們來看一下在過去大概將近10年104年統計到今年的3月將近10年多一點的時間\n\n03:21.269 --> 03:36.220\n先看一下總數總件數5700多件就是發生事故是在行人走在人行道上面發生的其實這是很不應該的其中也造成了48人死亡\n\n03:38.161 --> 03:52.327\n7029人受傷這事故造成的一個傷亡的比例我是覺得蠻高的那當然看他的運劇來分類的話機慢車的比例是最多的機慢車包括了因為\n\n03:52.927 --> 04:20.825\n很多是不是因為在人行道或者騎樓停車順便要出入的過程中還是有很多的一個情況發生這樣的一個行人在人行道發生事故這個部分今天營建署有來嗎營建署蔡組長你來說一下好不好因為我看到你們的一個數字給我的數字這關鍵點就是說我們這十年發生這樣的一個情況然後呢\n\n04:22.028 --> 04:49.971\n他的背景因為國土署你們是以人本的基礎不管是投入資金希望在整個道路上面分工上面人本的部分跟你關係比較大那你這邊特別數據說從100年開始到113年13年間我們人行道這是不得了從3200多公里到剛剛你給我的數據113年年底的話到了11000\n\n04:52.062 --> 05:04.034\n多公里的人行道所以成長了3.4倍啊成長3.4倍那你要說一下這成長3.4倍對於這個人行道發現事故的話你覺得是主要什麼原因啊\n\n05:06.260 --> 05:35.465\n你來表達一下你們努力了半天也成長了3.4倍那人行道發生事故的話還是你說是交通部的事沒關係我請交通部來說人行道的事故剛剛看委員所提供的這個表格其實看起來確實是汽機車行駛人行道所造成的行人的傷亡好那再一個問題你就可以稍微休息就是你11000多公里在這幾年快速成長有多少是標線型的人行道\n\n05:37.008 --> 05:53.508\n有多少是標線型人行道嘛就加分之加嘛就油漆一劃下去人行道就多個兩公里大概有沒有去統計有統計標線型的嗎標線型目前沒有統計那你要統計一下好不好好那這個部分我再請部長\n\n05:55.267 --> 06:18.263\n我要拜託您一件事啦至少我在桃園跟很多縣市看到這幾年要去突破你必須除了新有新的道路它就有人行道很多老舊的以前已經很有歷史的道路它就是這麼窄啦它真的沒有辦法有時候在水溝蓋弄平整就標線型的人行道就出來了我是不是能拜託您一件事啦\n\n06:19.243 --> 06:46.004\n因為標線性人行道剛開始做先實驗性質我可以接受但是如果半年一年以後發覺確實有功能要長久來做行人通行的這個部分我要再拜託尤其從評估從通過的人最多的開始做起來加什麼第一個要不然最簡單是防撞感但是防撞感只是警示作用不太防撞那第二個是防撞\n\n06:47.484 --> 07:14.109\n這個欄杆這在這個的部分我建議就是當標線型人行道已經劃設成為固定的能不能從人最多通行的評估開始來做防撞桿或者防撞欄杆這個部分我們希望交通部或是說應該是國土署你們未來補助也針對這個議題下去來幫忙甚至也能夠加入原石如果它變固定的\n\n07:14.989 --> 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