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00:01:38,270\n就在上個月在桃園巴德發生一起令人痛心的死亡車禍一名67歲的駕駛他疑似身體不適那因為手部劇烈抖動然後沒辦法控制方向盤事故當下完全沒有減速車輛暴衝量成一死二傷的悲劇那這樣的事件也不是個案所以請警察部長在高齡化社會中我們對於高齡駕駛者的身體他的狀態變化還有持續駕駛的資格我們有沒有足夠的檢核機制\n\n5\n00:01:39,711 --> 00:01:55,684\n報告委員我們針對這個75歲以上有這個換照的機制換照的過程當中我們就會做檢核認知功能的這個檢測我們都會來做所以75歲以上這個部分其中包含的視力還有聽力還有操作能力\n\n6\n00:01:56,725 --> 00:02:24,736\n還有一些協調就是認知功能測驗裡面就是說因為他要注意他的腦部跟手眼的協調所以他要有空間時間的相關的一些測驗那我們本身交通部跟衛生局他們有沒有來做聯訪機制目前大概就是說有一些其實這個衛福部的一些資料其實我們現在已經有跟他們在討論說要做相關的一個戒節\n\n7\n00:02:25,518 --> 00:02:37,801\nOK好了解那我們接下來看到另外一份數據那數據顯示最多事故的他不是75歲以上他是65歲到74歲那是不是代表我們高齡駕駛的管理起點訂的有點太晚了\n\n8\n00:02:40,987 --> 00:03:07,332\n因為這個現象他也間接的說明75歲後強制換照的制度他也確實在程度上提高了風險這個部分我大概跟委員報告一下現在委員提到的這個課題大概就是體格適性駕駛的一個課題那體格適性駕駛課題基本上分成這個普通駕駛人跟這個職業駕駛人的部分那職業駕駛人這一塊的話三年就要體檢\n\n9\n00:03:08,912 --> 00:03:29,953\n這個一次那現在講說這個自用駕駛人的這個部分的話那我們剛剛所提到確實就是說現行這個臨照了之後那在體格的這個部分的話原則上強制的部分是到75歲要這個做適性的一個請教部長一個問題部長你認為我們是不是應該更進一步將這個強制換照的制度往前推進70歲的\n\n10\n00:03:30,894 --> 00:03:45,668\n如果照這個數據來看的話我們是可以討論啦因為這個影響的人數其實相當的多那剛剛委員有提供這個數據65歲左右這一段其實還蠻多的但是其實75到84的這一段開車的人數其實相對也是減少的\n\n11\n00:03:51,173 --> 00:04:07,763\n減少了所以他的事故數當然也是會比較少不過您所提到的65到74的這一段我覺得我們應該可以再更關注一下我們來討論看看看能不能就是往前推到70歲的時候就來開始強制做就是讓這些駕駛者然後回去做\n\n12\n00:04:10,263 --> 00:04:26,553\n我們來研議這個方面研議看執行面看要怎麼做啦因為這個影響的人數其實還蠻多那本席會這樣提因為同樣是交通工具那大型的職業駕駛他65歲就必須要繳回駕照那一樣一般駕駛他就可以他需要到75歲才開始繳回那再請交通部研議好嗎\n\n13\n00:04:27,883 --> 00:04:45,419\n好那部長我們接著看喔公務局為了宣導高齡駕駛換照制度推出了4支影片那部長您可以看到數字最高的分別是8萬1.9萬然後還有1.8萬1.7萬次那每部影片平均一年點閱率都不到1萬5那這樣的政策推廣效果您滿意嗎\n\n14\n00:04:46,907 --> 00:05:09,689\n報告委員這個點擊數點閱率我們都希望能夠提高那就看他們做的內容是什麼我不可以說完全滿意因為現在民眾都感覺到說我們的宣導還是不足不過也要跟委員報告就是說我們的宣導的預算其實還真的是蠻有限我們工程做了很多但是我也發現說我們在宣導的經費其實不太足夠\n\n15\n00:05:10,009 --> 00:05:23,330\n那今天看到報告交通服務有說要強力加強宣導嗎那也請就是我們的政策不只要做到那也要有效果對要把它做好啦我也在提醒的是要把它做好那部長我們再來看到另外一個\n\n16\n00:05:24,793 --> 00:05:50,520\n一個不幸的事故就在本月一日也是一樣桃園八德和平路發生一起重大車禍一輛小客車逆向高速撞上機車造成一名45歲的男騎士當場死亡後座的妻子也多處插傷那經警方調查駕駛者是越南籍的軟性男子他的酒測值是0.49那他早已經就是自台長達7年了那另外同樣兩名乘客也是失聯移工事發後當場逃逸\n\n17\n00:05:51,920 --> 00:06:16,324\n那請部長我們看到這封信那這是家屬提供給本席的澄清信那本席想問的是那面對這樣的悲劇到底我們政府該如何來防毒報告委員失聯移工的部分當然不是交通部來做是是在移民署來做對那我們對於道路上面的安全我們要想辦法來維護那交通部有沒有去了解就是這些失聯移工就是他們有取得駕照的到底有多少人\n\n18\n00:06:17,458 --> 00:06:39,735\n施連移工有駕照嗎?公務員報告,施連移工這個部分因為確實現在我們還沒有跟內政部這邊做相關的借接所以未來如果說這個能夠有借接的話我們比較能夠去比對一下施連移工跟他的一個駕照的狀況公務局跟移民署有沒有定期做資料的比對?\n\n19\n00:06:42,226 --> 00:07:02,740\n目前就是說我想這個部分的話有這個對接機制嗎這個在移工的資料的部分我們確實現在還沒有所以這就是制度上的漏洞嗎那什麼時候可以把它補起來報告委員我們目前跟移民署正在做借接的這些工作我們會儘速把它借接起來\n\n20\n00:07:03,536 --> 00:07:13,986\n是那請務必要把這個制度上的漏洞補起來我們不希望再看到有這樣的憾事發生移工的部分我們有啦那失聯的移工我們再來商討看要怎麼樣讓他補齊OK好謝謝部長謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1141\t27779\t謝謝主席 主席請交通部陳部長請部長部長好 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1.7萬次那每部影片平均一年點閱率都不到1萬5那這樣的政策推廣效果您滿意嗎\n286907\t309689\t報告委員這個點擊數點閱率我們都希望能夠提高那就看他們做的內容是什麼我不可以說完全滿意因為現在民眾都感覺到說我們的宣導還是不足不過也要跟委員報告就是說我們的宣導的預算其實還真的是蠻有限我們工程做了很多但是我也發現說我們在宣導的經費其實不太足夠\n310009\t323330\t那今天看到報告交通服務有說要強力加強宣導嗎那也請就是我們的政策不只要做到那也要有效果對要把它做好啦我也在提醒的是要把它做好那部長我們再來看到另外一個\n324793\t350520\t一個不幸的事故就在本月一日也是一樣桃園八德和平路發生一起重大車禍一輛小客車逆向高速撞上機車造成一名45歲的男騎士當場死亡後座的妻子也多處插傷那經警方調查駕駛者是越南籍的軟性男子他的酒測值是0.49那他早已經就是自台長達7年了那另外同樣兩名乘客也是失聯移工事發後當場逃逸\n351920\t376324\t那請部長 我們看到這封信 那這是家屬提供給本席的澄清信那本席想問的是 那面對這樣的悲劇到底我們政府該如何來防毒報告委員 失聯移工的部分當然不是交通部來做是 是在移民署來做對 那我們對於道路上面的安全 我們要想辦法來維護那交通部有沒有去了解 就是這些失聯移工就是他們有取得駕照的到底有多少人\n377458\t399735\t施連移工有駕照嗎?公務員報告,施連移工這個部分因為確實現在我們還沒有跟內政部這邊做相關的借接所以未來如果說這個能夠有借接的話我們比較能夠去比對一下施連移工跟他的一個駕照的狀況公務局跟移民署有沒有定期做資料的比對?\n402226\t422740\t目前就是說我想這個部分的話有這個對接機制嗎這個在移工的資料的部分我們確實現在還沒有所以這就是制度上的漏洞嗎那什麼時候可以把它補起來報告委員我們目前跟移民署正在做借接的這些工作我們會儘速把它借接起來\n423536\t433986\t是 那請務必要把這個制度上的漏洞補起來我們不希望再看到有這樣的憾事發生移工的部分我們有啦那失聯的移工我們再來商討看要怎麼樣讓他補齊OK 好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席\n","txt":"謝謝主席 主席請交通部陳部長請部長部長好 本席先問你一個先問部長一個生活化的問題部長小時候有玩過電子遊戲器嗎有啊有玩過嗎那如果現在有機會再玩你認為現在玩起來的反應會跟小時候比起來會是一樣的嗎會差很多會差很多我跟我的兒子玩起來我的反應變很慢\n反應變很慢因為根據我們德國海德堡大學研究分析哈佛資料庫他們將近120萬名10到80歲的受試者反應結果發現10到16歲的反應最快那30歲之後開始變慢那60歲之後明顯是最明顯的變慢也是\n人體自然老化的科學現象之一我們的交通也受到這樣的影響也點出一個迫切需要我們來關注的公共安全問題高齡駕駛那部長您本身應該也有駕照吧有駕照也實際開過車那您是否認同當我們在道路上開車的時候突發狀況的應變反應是維護行車安全的關鍵因素之一沒錯嘛那我們來看\n就在上個月在桃園巴德發生一起令人痛心的死亡車禍一名67歲的駕駛他疑似身體不適那因為手部劇烈抖動然後沒辦法控制方向盤事故當下完全沒有減速車輛暴衝量成一死二傷的悲劇那這樣的事件也不是個案所以請警察部長在高齡化社會中我們對於高齡駕駛者的身體他的狀態變化還有持續駕駛的資格我們有沒有足夠的檢核機制\n報告委員我們針對這個75歲以上有這個換照的機制換照的過程當中我們就會做檢核認知功能的這個檢測我們都會來做所以75歲以上這個部分其中包含的視力還有聽力還有操作能力\n還有一些協調就是認知功能測驗裡面就是說因為他要注意他的腦部跟手眼的協調所以他要有空間時間的相關的一些測驗那我們本身交通部跟衛生局他們有沒有來做聯訪機制目前大概就是說有一些其實這個衛福部的一些資料其實我們現在已經有跟他們在討論說要做相關的一個戒節\nOK 好了解那我們接下來看到另外一份數據那數據顯示最多事故的他不是75歲以上他是65歲到74歲那是不是代表我們高齡駕駛的管理起點訂的有點太晚了\n因為這個現象他也間接的說明75歲後強制換照的制度他也確實在程度上提高了風險這個部分我大概跟委員報告一下現在委員提到的這個課題大概就是體格適性駕駛的一個課題那體格適性駕駛課題基本上分成這個普通駕駛人跟這個職業駕駛人的部分那職業駕駛人這一塊的話三年就要體檢\n這個一次那現在講說這個自用駕駛人的這個部分的話那我們剛剛所提到確實就是說現行這個臨照了之後那在體格的這個部分的話原則上強制的部分是到75歲要這個做適性的一個請教部長一個問題部長你認為我們是不是應該更進一步將這個強制換照的制度往前推進70歲的\n如果照這個數據來看的話我們是可以討論啦因為這個影響的人數其實相當的多那剛剛委員有提供這個數據65歲左右這一段其實還蠻多的但是其實75到84的這一段開車的人數其實相對也是減少的\n減少了所以他的事故數當然也是會比較少不過您所提到的65到74的這一段我覺得我們應該可以再更關注一下我們來討論看看看能不能就是往前推到70歲的時候就來開始強制做就是讓這些駕駛者然後回去做\n我們來研議這個方面 研議看執行面看要怎麼做啦因為這個影響的人數其實還蠻多那本席會這樣提 因為同樣是交通工具那大型的職業駕駛他65歲就必須要繳回駕照那一樣一般駕駛他就可以他需要到75歲才開始繳回那再請交通部研議好嗎\n好 那部長我們接著看喔公務局為了宣導高齡駕駛換照制度推出了4支影片那部長您可以看到數字最高的分別是8萬 1.9萬然後還有1.8萬 1.7萬次那每部影片平均一年點閱率都不到1萬5那這樣的政策推廣效果您滿意嗎\n報告委員這個點擊數點閱率我們都希望能夠提高那就看他們做的內容是什麼我不可以說完全滿意因為現在民眾都感覺到說我們的宣導還是不足不過也要跟委員報告就是說我們的宣導的預算其實還真的是蠻有限我們工程做了很多但是我也發現說我們在宣導的經費其實不太足夠\n那今天看到報告交通服務有說要強力加強宣導嗎那也請就是我們的政策不只要做到那也要有效果對要把它做好啦我也在提醒的是要把它做好那部長我們再來看到另外一個\n一個不幸的事故就在本月一日也是一樣桃園八德和平路發生一起重大車禍一輛小客車逆向高速撞上機車造成一名45歲的男騎士當場死亡後座的妻子也多處插傷那經警方調查駕駛者是越南籍的軟性男子他的酒測值是0.49那他早已經就是自台長達7年了那另外同樣兩名乘客也是失聯移工事發後當場逃逸\n那請部長 我們看到這封信 那這是家屬提供給本席的澄清信那本席想問的是 那面對這樣的悲劇到底我們政府該如何來防毒報告委員 失聯移工的部分當然不是交通部來做是 是在移民署來做對 那我們對於道路上面的安全 我們要想辦法來維護那交通部有沒有去了解 就是這些失聯移工就是他們有取得駕照的到底有多少人\n施連移工有駕照嗎?公務員報告,施連移工這個部分因為確實現在我們還沒有跟內政部這邊做相關的借接所以未來如果說這個能夠有借接的話我們比較能夠去比對一下施連移工跟他的一個駕照的狀況公務局跟移民署有沒有定期做資料的比對?\n目前就是說我想這個部分的話有這個對接機制嗎這個在移工的資料的部分我們確實現在還沒有所以這就是制度上的漏洞嗎那什麼時候可以把它補起來報告委員我們目前跟移民署正在做借接的這些工作我們會儘速把它借接起來\n是 那請務必要把這個制度上的漏洞補起來我們不希望再看到有這樣的憾事發生移工的部分我們有啦那失聯的移工我們再來商討看要怎麼樣讓他補齊OK 好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.141 --> 00:27.779\n謝謝主席主席請交通部陳部長請部長部長好本席先問你一個先問部長一個生活化的問題部長小時候有玩過電子遊戲器嗎有啊有玩過嗎那如果現在有機會再玩你認為現在玩起來的反應會跟小時候比起來會是一樣的嗎會差很多會差很多我跟我的兒子玩起來我的反應變很慢\n\n00:28.479 --> 00:38.845\n反應變很慢因為根據我們德國海德堡大學研究分析哈佛資料庫他們將近120萬名10到80歲的受試者反應結果發現10到16歲的反應最快那30歲之後開始變慢那60歲之後明顯是最明顯的變慢也是\n\n00:47.990 --> 01:07.735\n人體自然老化的科學現象之一我們的交通也受到這樣的影響也點出一個迫切需要我們來關注的公共安全問題高齡駕駛那部長您本身應該也有駕照吧有駕照也實際開過車那您是否認同當我們在道路上開車的時候突發狀況的應變反應是維護行車安全的關鍵因素之一沒錯嘛那我們來看\n\n01:12.236 --> 01:38.270\n就在上個月在桃園巴德發生一起令人痛心的死亡車禍一名67歲的駕駛他疑似身體不適那因為手部劇烈抖動然後沒辦法控制方向盤事故當下完全沒有減速車輛暴衝量成一死二傷的悲劇那這樣的事件也不是個案所以請警察部長在高齡化社會中我們對於高齡駕駛者的身體他的狀態變化還有持續駕駛的資格我們有沒有足夠的檢核機制\n\n01:39.711 --> 01:55.684\n報告委員我們針對這個75歲以上有這個換照的機制換照的過程當中我們就會做檢核認知功能的這個檢測我們都會來做所以75歲以上這個部分其中包含的視力還有聽力還有操作能力\n\n01:56.725 --> 02:24.736\n還有一些協調就是認知功能測驗裡面就是說因為他要注意他的腦部跟手眼的協調所以他要有空間時間的相關的一些測驗那我們本身交通部跟衛生局他們有沒有來做聯訪機制目前大概就是說有一些其實這個衛福部的一些資料其實我們現在已經有跟他們在討論說要做相關的一個戒節\n\n02:25.518 --> 02:37.801\nOK好了解那我們接下來看到另外一份數據那數據顯示最多事故的他不是75歲以上他是65歲到74歲那是不是代表我們高齡駕駛的管理起點訂的有點太晚了\n\n02:40.987 --> 03:07.332\n因為這個現象他也間接的說明75歲後強制換照的制度他也確實在程度上提高了風險這個部分我大概跟委員報告一下現在委員提到的這個課題大概就是體格適性駕駛的一個課題那體格適性駕駛課題基本上分成這個普通駕駛人跟這個職業駕駛人的部分那職業駕駛人這一塊的話三年就要體檢\n\n03:08.912 --> 03:29.953\n這個一次那現在講說這個自用駕駛人的這個部分的話那我們剛剛所提到確實就是說現行這個臨照了之後那在體格的這個部分的話原則上強制的部分是到75歲要這個做適性的一個請教部長一個問題部長你認為我們是不是應該更進一步將這個強制換照的制度往前推進70歲的\n\n03:30.894 --> 03:45.668\n如果照這個數據來看的話我們是可以討論啦因為這個影響的人數其實相當的多那剛剛委員有提供這個數據65歲左右這一段其實還蠻多的但是其實75到84的這一段開車的人數其實相對也是減少的\n\n03:51.173 --> 04:07.763\n減少了所以他的事故數當然也是會比較少不過您所提到的65到74的這一段我覺得我們應該可以再更關注一下我們來討論看看看能不能就是往前推到70歲的時候就來開始強制做就是讓這些駕駛者然後回去做\n\n04:10.263 --> 04:26.553\n我們來研議這個方面研議看執行面看要怎麼做啦因為這個影響的人數其實還蠻多那本席會這樣提因為同樣是交通工具那大型的職業駕駛他65歲就必須要繳回駕照那一樣一般駕駛他就可以他需要到75歲才開始繳回那再請交通部研議好嗎\n\n04:27.883 --> 04:45.419\n好那部長我們接著看喔公務局為了宣導高齡駕駛換照制度推出了4支影片那部長您可以看到數字最高的分別是8萬1.9萬然後還有1.8萬1.7萬次那每部影片平均一年點閱率都不到1萬5那這樣的政策推廣效果您滿意嗎\n\n04:46.907 --> 05:09.689\n報告委員這個點擊數點閱率我們都希望能夠提高那就看他們做的內容是什麼我不可以說完全滿意因為現在民眾都感覺到說我們的宣導還是不足不過也要跟委員報告就是說我們的宣導的預算其實還真的是蠻有限我們工程做了很多但是我也發現說我們在宣導的經費其實不太足夠\n\n05:10.009 --> 05:23.330\n那今天看到報告交通服務有說要強力加強宣導嗎那也請就是我們的政策不只要做到那也要有效果對要把它做好啦我也在提醒的是要把它做好那部長我們再來看到另外一個\n\n05:24.793 --> 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