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00:01:49,912\n好謝謝那我就是希望至少要有一個具體的可行性研究如果真的要往下走的話這件事情非常重要那因為其實還是很多人在說高雄真的有需要一個新機場嗎\n\n7\n00:01:51,741 --> 00:02:07,351\n部長認為有需要嗎報告委員我目前看高雄的那個運量一直是在上升的所以我們也才會做這個機場的更新的整建第一期跟第二期的更新總共投入了881我們希望把運量能夠拉到1650萬的這個運量\n\n8\n00:02:10,433 --> 00:02:29,077\n那我們就是因為看到這個需求有在所以才會做這件事那如果長期來看的話確實是有需要因為24小時的機場它的好處是對於一些越洋的航班來說會比較方便有時候它會用到宵禁的時間如果你沒有24小時的機場越洋的航班飛過來剛好是宵禁的時間它就會受到限制\n\n9\n00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:38,829\n謝謝所以呢高雄有沒有需要一個24小時的新機場有需要非常有需要那我還是再簡單補充是因為其實現在的空貨運的貨的貨量非常需求非常大尤其是在我們南部因為我們現在南科的\n\n10\n00:02:47,138 --> 00:03:04,355\n這個產值已經超越主科了然後再加上現在其實我們這邊非常重要的是因為桃園的機場已經飽和了就是所以我們才一直說接下來是不是應該看一下南部這邊的需求然後再加上你看往前看50年就是真的有這個需求\n\n11\n00:03:05,416 --> 00:03:33,669\n那另外還有另外一件事情就是第五航權因為其實我們現在高雄的國際機場也有努力的在爭取這件事情那其實最近包括有一個美聯航的高雄到成田對那我覺得這是一個好的例子那接下來這個第五航權的部分也希望我們部長然後請我們民航軍再多加的協助好這個我們來努力好那再來進到這個人本交通的部分我不知道說部長知不知道我們現在台灣的停讓率是多少\n\n12\n00:03:34,429 --> 00:03:46,845\n也就是說你看到無號誌的人行穿越道的時候會停下來這樣的停讓率是看到有人還是看到沒人的時候\n\n13\n00:03:47,645 --> 00:04:08,894\n去看到有行人的時候市長這邊應該有數字如果按照目前調查看個縣市比如如果在無號字化入口據我們先前調查有些甚至達到100%沒有停讓行人不過大部分是在八九成我還想說我以為你要說百分之百有停讓停讓率百分之百我想說怎麼可能\n\n14\n00:04:10,473 --> 00:04:28,761\n百分之百沒有停讓行人無耗制化的路口百分之百沒有停讓行人哇這個數據聽起來多麼恐怖啊我不是要講就連在日本喔無耗制的行人穿越道的停讓率也只有五成也就是說我們光是要達到五成都還要有一點\n\n15\n00:04:29,881 --> 00:04:54,278\n困難那這個就是我們要努力的所以還是希望我們可以透過更多的交通工程的設計看是不是可以讓大家自動的有意識必須要停下來這件事情不然這個停讓率光是你看日本我們以為他們看到行人一定會自動停下來但其實他們計算出來的數據也是只有五成那剛剛其實請問這位是\n\n16\n00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:15,113\n師長師長就說了我是百分之百不會停下來有一些路口啦有一些路口這個很慘啦那這個部分委員所提醒的就是說工程面的部分是改善了一方面那更重要的其實是駕駛人的習慣啦所以駕駛人的習慣跟教育這才是更重要的\n\n17\n00:05:15,413 --> 00:05:29,787\n當然啦當然是雙向進行那當然所以在這邊我也想要再補充一個小的意見就是說我們現在看到很多交通事故啊他的原因可能會寫說是因為可能什麼行人沒有\n\n18\n00:05:30,507 --> 00:05:56,990\n行人沒有注意車前的狀況或者是說駕駛人沒有注意道路的狀況左右來車所以造成了車禍的原因但事實上很多原因是因為道路的設計不良就例如說我們一些行人的設施不足甚至是路口的窄幅等等的這些如果交通工程改善了或許能夠去讓去他們不會有這些視線的死角\n\n19\n00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:11,216\n所以我是在想說接下來我們在盤點這些交通事故的原因的時候有沒有機會把交通設計不良放進去這個一直都有一直都有可是很常我們在調地方的車禍的原因\n\n20\n00:06:13,337 --> 00:06:31,351\n都會寫說沒有注意來車然後行人或者是駕駛人因為他們自己沒有注意但事實上很多他們視線不良並不是他們自己的我們每次在肇事之後的那個調查都會把那個道路設計也放入其中一個檢討的項目所以這個部分我們會持續滾動來處理\n\n21\n00:06:32,472 --> 00:06:54,543\n好這個真的要拜託那我認為不管怎麼樣我們交通部能做的就是把交通工程的設計做得更好這才是人本交通的根本好這個真的要拜託部長那拜託機場我們跟張偉都超級關心的對不對所以真的要拜託我們希望高雄的新的機場有一些新的進度可行性評估報告再拜託部長好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n10134\t11419\t好 謝謝主席 我們請部長請部長\n20351\t45316\t好 部長好 昨天高雄的一件大事你們到高雄考察這個我們的航廈嘛那也準備把第一期的計畫準備要端出來了還有這個停車場也動工了那當然是很感謝對我們高雄的照顧但是我還是想要在這邊再提一下關於新的國際機場的事這個我們跟許志傑召委也都非常的積極的在爭取那其實我們陳其邁市長也提了非常多次\n45916\t56211\t那上一次總質詢的時候我們部長其實也有提到說會準備來進行可行性的相關評估那我不知道說有沒有在準備了期程是什麼\n57042\t79320\t委員您所指的是24小時的機場嗎沒錯24小時的機場其實過去交通部已經做過12次的研究那地方也非常殷切的需求沒錯希望能夠有24小時的機場所以我們現在交通部也內部也開始請民航局再繼續再做盤點跟研究看有沒有哪一個地方是適合的那目前已經開始在做這個這方面的研討\n80319\t97979\t好 那我的意思是說那我們這個具體的可行性的評估是有沒有準備要用一個計畫來進行還是說就是你們內部自己的一個討論而已呢報告委員 我們過去做了12次啦我們最近會來啟動新的一次會來啟動新的一次可行性研究\n98399\t109912\t好 謝謝那我就是希望至少要有一個具體的可行性研究如果真的要往下走的話這件事情非常重要那因為其實還是很多人在說高雄真的有需要一個新機場嗎\n111741\t127351\t部長認為有需要嗎報告委員我目前看高雄的那個運量一直是在上升的所以我們也才會做這個機場的更新的整建第一期跟第二期的更新總共投入了881我們希望把運量能夠拉到1650萬的這個運量\n130433\t149077\t那我們就是因為看到這個需求有在所以才會做這件事那如果長期來看的話確實是有需要因為24小時的機場它的好處是對於一些越洋的航班來說會比較方便有時候它會用到宵禁的時間如果你沒有24小時的機場越洋的航班飛過來剛好是宵禁的時間它就會受到限制\n150600\t158829\t謝謝所以呢高雄有沒有需要一個24小時的新機場有需要非常有需要那我還是再簡單補充是因為其實現在的空貨運的貨的貨量非常需求非常大尤其是在我們南部因為我們現在南科的\n167138\t184355\t這個產值已經超越主科了然後再加上現在其實我們這邊非常重要的是因為桃園的機場已經飽和了就是所以我們才一直說接下來是不是應該看一下南部這邊的需求然後再加上你看往前看50年就是真的有這個需求\n185416\t213669\t那另外還有另外一件事情就是第五航權因為其實我們現在高雄的國際機場也有努力的在爭取這件事情那其實最近包括有一個美聯航的高雄到成田對 那我覺得這是一個好的例子那接下來這個第五航權的部分也希望我們部長然後請我們民航軍再多加的協助好 這個我們來努力好 那再來進到這個人本交通的部分我不知道說部長知不知道我們現在台灣的停讓率是多少\n214429\t226845\t也就是說你看到無號誌的人行穿越道的時候會停下來這樣的停讓率是看到有人還是看到沒人的時候\n227645\t248894\t去看到有行人的時候市長這邊應該有數字如果按照目前調查看個縣市比如如果在無號字化入口據我們先前調查有些甚至達到100%沒有停讓行人不過大部分是在八九成我還想說我以為你要說百分之百有停讓停讓率百分之百我想說怎麼可能\n250473\t268761\t百分之百沒有停讓行人無耗制化的路口百分之百沒有停讓行人哇 這個數據聽起來多麼恐怖啊我不是要講就連在日本喔無耗制的行人穿越道的停讓率也只有五成也就是說我們光是要達到五成都還要有一點\n269881\t294278\t困難那這個就是我們要努力的所以還是希望我們可以透過更多的交通工程的設計看是不是可以讓大家自動的有意識必須要停下來這件事情不然這個停讓率光是你看日本我們以為他們看到行人一定會自動停下來但其實他們計算出來的數據也是只有五成那剛剛其實請問這位是\n297760\t315113\t師長師長就說了我是百分之百不會停下來有一些路口啦有一些路口這個很慘啦那這個部分委員所提醒的就是說工程面的部分是改善了一方面那更重要的其實是駕駛人的習慣啦所以駕駛人的習慣跟教育這才是更重要的\n315413\t329787\t當然啦當然是雙向進行那當然所以在這邊我也想要再補充一個小的意見就是說我們現在看到很多交通事故啊他的原因可能會寫說是因為可能什麼行人沒有\n330507\t356990\t行人沒有注意車前的狀況或者是說駕駛人沒有注意道路的狀況左右來車所以造成了車禍的原因但事實上很多原因是因為道路的設計不良就例如說我們一些行人的設施不足甚至是路口的窄幅等等的這些如果交通工程改善了或許能夠去讓去他們不會有這些視線的死角\n357791\t371216\t所以我是在想說接下來我們在盤點這些交通事故的原因的時候有沒有機會把交通設計不良放進去這個一直都有一直都有可是很常我們在調地方的車禍的原因\n373337\t391351\t都會寫說沒有注意來車然後行人或者是駕駛人因為他們自己沒有注意但事實上很多他們視線不良並不是他們自己的我們每次在肇事之後的那個調查都會把那個道路設計也放入其中一個檢討的項目所以這個部分我們會持續滾動來處理\n392472\t414543\t好這個真的要拜託那我認為不管怎麼樣我們交通部能做的就是把交通工程的設計做得更好這才是人本交通的根本好這個真的要拜託部長那拜託機場我們跟張偉都超級關心的對不對所以真的要拜託我們希望高雄的新的機場有一些新的進度可行性評估報告再拜託部長好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 我們請部長請部長\n好 部長好 昨天高雄的一件大事你們到高雄考察這個我們的航廈嘛那也準備把第一期的計畫準備要端出來了還有這個停車場也動工了那當然是很感謝對我們高雄的照顧但是我還是想要在這邊再提一下關於新的國際機場的事這個我們跟許志傑召委也都非常的積極的在爭取那其實我們陳其邁市長也提了非常多次\n那上一次總質詢的時候我們部長其實也有提到說會準備來進行可行性的相關評估那我不知道說有沒有在準備了期程是什麼\n委員您所指的是24小時的機場嗎沒錯24小時的機場其實過去交通部已經做過12次的研究那地方也非常殷切的需求沒錯希望能夠有24小時的機場所以我們現在交通部也內部也開始請民航局再繼續再做盤點跟研究看有沒有哪一個地方是適合的那目前已經開始在做這個這方面的研討\n好 那我的意思是說那我們這個具體的可行性的評估是有沒有準備要用一個計畫來進行還是說就是你們內部自己的一個討論而已呢報告委員 我們過去做了12次啦我們最近會來啟動新的一次會來啟動新的一次可行性研究\n好 謝謝那我就是希望至少要有一個具體的可行性研究如果真的要往下走的話這件事情非常重要那因為其實還是很多人在說高雄真的有需要一個新機場嗎\n部長認為有需要嗎報告委員我目前看高雄的那個運量一直是在上升的所以我們也才會做這個機場的更新的整建第一期跟第二期的更新總共投入了881我們希望把運量能夠拉到1650萬的這個運量\n那我們就是因為看到這個需求有在所以才會做這件事那如果長期來看的話確實是有需要因為24小時的機場它的好處是對於一些越洋的航班來說會比較方便有時候它會用到宵禁的時間如果你沒有24小時的機場越洋的航班飛過來剛好是宵禁的時間它就會受到限制\n謝謝所以呢高雄有沒有需要一個24小時的新機場有需要非常有需要那我還是再簡單補充是因為其實現在的空貨運的貨的貨量非常需求非常大尤其是在我們南部因為我們現在南科的\n這個產值已經超越主科了然後再加上現在其實我們這邊非常重要的是因為桃園的機場已經飽和了就是所以我們才一直說接下來是不是應該看一下南部這邊的需求然後再加上你看往前看50年就是真的有這個需求\n那另外還有另外一件事情就是第五航權因為其實我們現在高雄的國際機場也有努力的在爭取這件事情那其實最近包括有一個美聯航的高雄到成田對 那我覺得這是一個好的例子那接下來這個第五航權的部分也希望我們部長然後請我們民航軍再多加的協助好 這個我們來努力好 那再來進到這個人本交通的部分我不知道說部長知不知道我們現在台灣的停讓率是多少\n也就是說你看到無號誌的人行穿越道的時候會停下來這樣的停讓率是看到有人還是看到沒人的時候\n去看到有行人的時候市長這邊應該有數字如果按照目前調查看個縣市比如如果在無號字化入口據我們先前調查有些甚至達到100%沒有停讓行人不過大部分是在八九成我還想說我以為你要說百分之百有停讓停讓率百分之百我想說怎麼可能\n百分之百沒有停讓行人無耗制化的路口百分之百沒有停讓行人哇 這個數據聽起來多麼恐怖啊我不是要講就連在日本喔無耗制的行人穿越道的停讓率也只有五成也就是說我們光是要達到五成都還要有一點\n困難那這個就是我們要努力的所以還是希望我們可以透過更多的交通工程的設計看是不是可以讓大家自動的有意識必須要停下來這件事情不然這個停讓率光是你看日本我們以為他們看到行人一定會自動停下來但其實他們計算出來的數據也是只有五成那剛剛其實請問這位是\n師長師長就說了我是百分之百不會停下來有一些路口啦有一些路口這個很慘啦那這個部分委員所提醒的就是說工程面的部分是改善了一方面那更重要的其實是駕駛人的習慣啦所以駕駛人的習慣跟教育這才是更重要的\n當然啦當然是雙向進行那當然所以在這邊我也想要再補充一個小的意見就是說我們現在看到很多交通事故啊他的原因可能會寫說是因為可能什麼行人沒有\n行人沒有注意車前的狀況或者是說駕駛人沒有注意道路的狀況左右來車所以造成了車禍的原因但事實上很多原因是因為道路的設計不良就例如說我們一些行人的設施不足甚至是路口的窄幅等等的這些如果交通工程改善了或許能夠去讓去他們不會有這些視線的死角\n所以我是在想說接下來我們在盤點這些交通事故的原因的時候有沒有機會把交通設計不良放進去這個一直都有一直都有可是很常我們在調地方的車禍的原因\n都會寫說沒有注意來車然後行人或者是駕駛人因為他們自己沒有注意但事實上很多他們視線不良並不是他們自己的我們每次在肇事之後的那個調查都會把那個道路設計也放入其中一個檢討的項目所以這個部分我們會持續滾動來處理\n好這個真的要拜託那我認為不管怎麼樣我們交通部能做的就是把交通工程的設計做得更好這才是人本交通的根本好這個真的要拜託部長那拜託機場我們跟張偉都超級關心的對不對所以真的要拜託我們希望高雄的新的機場有一些新的進度可行性評估報告再拜託部長好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:10.134 --> 00:11.419\n好謝謝主席我們請部長請部長\n\n00:20.351 --> 00:45.316\n好部長好昨天高雄的一件大事你們到高雄考察這個我們的航廈嘛那也準備把第一期的計畫準備要端出來了還有這個停車場也動工了那當然是很感謝對我們高雄的照顧但是我還是想要在這邊再提一下關於新的國際機場的事這個我們跟許志傑召委也都非常的積極的在爭取那其實我們陳其邁市長也提了非常多次\n\n00:45.916 --> 00:56.211\n那上一次總質詢的時候我們部長其實也有提到說會準備來進行可行性的相關評估那我不知道說有沒有在準備了期程是什麼\n\n00:57.042 --> 01:19.320\n委員您所指的是24小時的機場嗎沒錯24小時的機場其實過去交通部已經做過12次的研究那地方也非常殷切的需求沒錯希望能夠有24小時的機場所以我們現在交通部也內部也開始請民航局再繼續再做盤點跟研究看有沒有哪一個地方是適合的那目前已經開始在做這個這方面的研討\n\n01:20.319 --> 01:37.979\n好那我的意思是說那我們這個具體的可行性的評估是有沒有準備要用一個計畫來進行還是說就是你們內部自己的一個討論而已呢報告委員我們過去做了12次啦我們最近會來啟動新的一次會來啟動新的一次可行性研究\n\n01:38.399 --> 01:49.912\n好謝謝那我就是希望至少要有一個具體的可行性研究如果真的要往下走的話這件事情非常重要那因為其實還是很多人在說高雄真的有需要一個新機場嗎\n\n01:51.741 --> 02:07.351\n部長認為有需要嗎報告委員我目前看高雄的那個運量一直是在上升的所以我們也才會做這個機場的更新的整建第一期跟第二期的更新總共投入了881我們希望把運量能夠拉到1650萬的這個運量\n\n02:10.433 --> 02:29.077\n那我們就是因為看到這個需求有在所以才會做這件事那如果長期來看的話確實是有需要因為24小時的機場它的好處是對於一些越洋的航班來說會比較方便有時候它會用到宵禁的時間如果你沒有24小時的機場越洋的航班飛過來剛好是宵禁的時間它就會受到限制\n\n02:30.600 --> 02:38.829\n謝謝所以呢高雄有沒有需要一個24小時的新機場有需要非常有需要那我還是再簡單補充是因為其實現在的空貨運的貨的貨量非常需求非常大尤其是在我們南部因為我們現在南科的\n\n02:47.138 --> 03:04.355\n這個產值已經超越主科了然後再加上現在其實我們這邊非常重要的是因為桃園的機場已經飽和了就是所以我們才一直說接下來是不是應該看一下南部這邊的需求然後再加上你看往前看50年就是真的有這個需求\n\n03:05.416 --> 03:33.669\n那另外還有另外一件事情就是第五航權因為其實我們現在高雄的國際機場也有努力的在爭取這件事情那其實最近包括有一個美聯航的高雄到成田對那我覺得這是一個好的例子那接下來這個第五航權的部分也希望我們部長然後請我們民航軍再多加的協助好這個我們來努力好那再來進到這個人本交通的部分我不知道說部長知不知道我們現在台灣的停讓率是多少\n\n03:34.429 --> 03:46.845\n也就是說你看到無號誌的人行穿越道的時候會停下來這樣的停讓率是看到有人還是看到沒人的時候\n\n03:47.645 --> 04:08.894\n去看到有行人的時候市長這邊應該有數字如果按照目前調查看個縣市比如如果在無號字化入口據我們先前調查有些甚至達到100%沒有停讓行人不過大部分是在八九成我還想說我以為你要說百分之百有停讓停讓率百分之百我想說怎麼可能\n\n04:10.473 --> 04:28.761\n百分之百沒有停讓行人無耗制化的路口百分之百沒有停讓行人哇這個數據聽起來多麼恐怖啊我不是要講就連在日本喔無耗制的行人穿越道的停讓率也只有五成也就是說我們光是要達到五成都還要有一點\n\n04:29.881 --> 04:54.278\n困難那這個就是我們要努力的所以還是希望我們可以透過更多的交通工程的設計看是不是可以讓大家自動的有意識必須要停下來這件事情不然這個停讓率光是你看日本我們以為他們看到行人一定會自動停下來但其實他們計算出來的數據也是只有五成那剛剛其實請問這位是\n\n04:57.760 --> 05:15.113\n師長師長就說了我是百分之百不會停下來有一些路口啦有一些路口這個很慘啦那這個部分委員所提醒的就是說工程面的部分是改善了一方面那更重要的其實是駕駛人的習慣啦所以駕駛人的習慣跟教育這才是更重要的\n\n05:15.413 --> 05:29.787\n當然啦當然是雙向進行那當然所以在這邊我也想要再補充一個小的意見就是說我們現在看到很多交通事故啊他的原因可能會寫說是因為可能什麼行人沒有\n\n05:30.507 --> 05:56.990\n行人沒有注意車前的狀況或者是說駕駛人沒有注意道路的狀況左右來車所以造成了車禍的原因但事實上很多原因是因為道路的設計不良就例如說我們一些行人的設施不足甚至是路口的窄幅等等的這些如果交通工程改善了或許能夠去讓去他們不會有這些視線的死角\n\n05:57.791 --> 06:11.216\n所以我是在想說接下來我們在盤點這些交通事故的原因的時候有沒有機會把交通設計不良放進去這個一直都有一直都有可是很常我們在調地方的車禍的原因\n\n06:13.337 --> 06:31.351\n都會寫說沒有注意來車然後行人或者是駕駛人因為他們自己沒有注意但事實上很多他們視線不良並不是他們自己的我們每次在肇事之後的那個調查都會把那個道路設計也放入其中一個檢討的項目所以這個部分我們會持續滾動來處理\n\n06:32.472 --> 06:54.543\n好這個真的要拜託那我認為不管怎麼樣我們交通部能做的就是把交通工程的設計做得更好這才是人本交通的根本好這個真的要拜託部長那拜託機場我們跟張偉都超級關心的對不對所以真的要拜託我們希望高雄的新的機場有一些新的進度可行性評估報告再拜託部長好謝謝\n\n","segments":[{"start":10.134,"end":11.419,"text":"好 謝謝主席 我們請部長請部長"},{"start":20.351,"end":45.316,"text":"好 部長好 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