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00:00:48,913\n那這份資料其實有許多可以參考的資料可以來做研究那我想我今天就透過這個資料來跟您探討就是科學化的速限調整跟檢討那我想成果報告裡面有指出\n\n4\n00:00:49,713 --> 00:01:18,496\n因為台灣的地形多變化然後道路的形態也很多元那有市區啊郊區啊山區啊高快速道路等等那所以如果全面統一調整的話那可能反而會造成很多的路段不適用可是報告有說明喔他說美國歐洲日本他們的國家都強調所謂的操作速率速線速率操作速率就所謂的八五百分位速率\n\n5\n00:01:20,353 --> 00:01:38,542\n部長你剛剛講到85%的速率的意思我不知道85%的速率他是說在道路上面行駛的車輛大概就85%的車輛大概用就是說那樣子的一個速度低於85%低於這個速限的速度那這個速限就適合\n\n6\n00:01:43,784 --> 00:01:46,348\n同時也根據道路功能、路形、事故紀錄、周邊環境做一些精細的分級然後定期來檢討速限\n\n7\n00:01:58,766 --> 00:02:16,751\n所以最後報告是建議說我國應該要針對速限明顯與實際操作速率的落差太大還有事故率偏高還有興建跟改善道路這些重點的路段我們要進行專案的檢討跟\n\n8\n00:02:18,271 --> 00:02:42,712\n跟調整所以想要請教部長的是說目前我們針對所謂的這些科學化數據化的這種檢討特定道路的速限我們有沒有什麼樣的規劃跟安排因為既然做出這個報告有沒有根據這個報告做一些執行的規劃跟安排另外就是說我國的道路那麼多樣的樣態那是不是有要細緻化去分級檢討的必要部長\n\n9\n00:02:43,372 --> 00:03:06,439\n我們依據剛剛的研究的結果我們自己所管轄的省道我們全部都有檢視過一遍省道的部分我們有檢視過一遍但是縣市政府他們的檢視可能要透過他們自己的方法下去做那這個部分我們可以把資料提供給縣市政府請縣市政府依據這個原則這個研究的結果也依據我們現在省道的這個檢視的經驗也下去做\n\n10\n00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:34,521\n那你們要給縣市政府指引啊或者說你們要發函去給他們讓他們有這樣的指引可以做這個改善的依據這是一個研究的結果還沒有到指引的程度因為當初其實就是大概在省道上面大概大家對於速限上面也有一些就是說希望檢討所以我們特別做了一個研究然後大概有一些原則那所以透過這個原則其實我們自己\n\n11\n00:03:35,541 --> 00:03:59,811\n公務局所主管的所有的省道我們自己做了一些檢討那有一些可以放寬速限的我們都放寬了那相關的這個部分的話我想基本上其實各地方政府他們的交通單位跟公務單位其實對相關的原則其實是熟悉的那不過我想我們有更新的一個這個結果的話我想我們會提供給他們好所以這個生活報告都會提供給地方政府\n\n12\n00:04:00,627 --> 00:04:24,470\n對我們會提供給地方政府因為我們台灣現行的一些道路這個速限的制度我們是所謂的設計速率那就是說它其實我們當然有它的歷史背景跟它的基礎可是隨著我們車輛的性能越來越好啊然後道路的設計越來越進步還有國際標準的演進我們部分的路段如果速限還沒有檢討的話確實是造成很多行人的不便\n\n13\n00:04:25,211 --> 00:04:45,587\n所以我覺得檢討確實是很必要那我覺得其實可以優先來針對一些像說速限跟實際車流明顯不符的路段或者是說一些事故的熱點我想這些真的要好好的因為人民的感受每天在開車那有的確實速限他就是設的太低\n\n14\n00:04:46,368 --> 00:05:07,328\n那你動不動就變成超速那也造成很多民眾的困擾那確實這個路段可能他或許他後面拓寬了可是他出現並沒有去做調整所以這個很多的林民眾都有問題所以是不是企業請中央跟地方政府交通局去做比較好的溝通那讓全國都可以感受到\n\n15\n00:05:08,689 --> 00:05:35,865\n是不會中央政府因為他們搞不清楚這個地方的這個所謂的這個市道啦縣道是所謂的那個地方政府所訂定的速限所以這部分大部分民眾遇到的道路都是地方政府啦除了省道跟國道以外當然可是他們我覺得他們不是那麼理解速限的訂定是地方政府訂定的他們認為這個可能是中央政府因為他們我接收到的訊息都是這樣所以這部分再請\n\n16\n00:05:37,126 --> 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山區啊高快速道路等等那所以如果全面統一調整的話那可能反而會造成很多的路段不適用可是報告有說明喔 他說美國 歐洲 日本他們的國家都強調所謂的操作速率速線 速率 操作速率就所謂的八五百分位速率\n部長你剛剛講到85%的速率的意思我不知道 85%的速率他是說在道路上面行駛的車輛大概就85%的車輛大概用就是說那樣子的一個速度低於85% 低於這個速限的速度那這個速限就適合\n同時也根據道路功能、路形、事故紀錄、周邊環境做一些精細的分級然後定期來檢討速限\n所以最後報告是建議說我國應該要針對速限明顯與實際操作速率的落差太大還有事故率偏高還有興建跟改善道路這些重點的路段我們要進行專案的檢討跟\n跟調整所以想要請教部長的是說目前我們針對所謂的這些科學化數據化的這種檢討特定道路的速限我們有沒有什麼樣的規劃跟安排因為既然做出這個報告有沒有根據這個報告做一些執行的規劃跟安排另外就是說我國的道路那麼多樣的樣態那是不是有要細緻化去分級檢討的必要 部長\n我們依據剛剛的研究的結果我們自己所管轄的省道我們全部都有檢視過一遍省道的部分我們有檢視過一遍但是縣市政府他們的檢視可能要透過他們自己的方法下去做那這個部分我們可以把資料提供給縣市政府請縣市政府依據這個原則這個研究的結果也依據我們現在省道的這個檢視的經驗也下去做\n那你們要給縣市政府指引啊或者說你們要發函去給他們讓他們有這樣的指引可以做這個改善的依據這是一個研究的結果還沒有到指引的程度因為當初其實就是大概在省道上面大概大家對於速限上面也有一些就是說希望檢討所以我們特別做了一個研究然後大概有一些原則那所以透過這個原則其實我們自己\n公務局所主管的所有的省道我們自己做了一些檢討那有一些可以放寬速限的我們都放寬了那相關的這個部分的話我想基本上其實各地方政府他們的交通單位跟公務單位其實對相關的原則其實是熟悉的那不過我想我們有更新的一個這個結果的話我想我們會提供給他們好所以這個生活報告都會提供給地方政府\n對 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