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00:02:06,750\n中央政府是不是政治操作而刻意拖延預算凍結那我想國人的眼睛都是雪亮的齁那根據中華民國憲法第六條的規定立法院有議決法例案、預算案、建案等重要事項之權這也代表立法院深負憲法賦予的預算審查權目的就是為了要為我們人民守住納稅人的錢因此才會要求各部會\n\n7\n00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:30,547\n提出相關的報告跟國人說清楚說我們的錢到底要怎麼用我想這才是政府負責任的一個態度的表現那然而我們立法院在聽取各部會預算解凍報告的內容之後只要預算運用合理我相信絕對都會支持預算解凍讓各部會可以盡快來執行因此本席在這邊要跟各部會再一次表達\n\n8\n00:02:31,667 --> 00:02:49,467\n只要合理的使用預算本席絕對支持也希望能夠盡速整理盡速解凍使用我們也希望各部會可以跟立法院積極來溝通不要因為特定高層的壓力而選擇讓政治掛帥製造更多的爭議甚至也讓我們的公務員為難\n\n9\n00:02:50,808 --> 00:03:11,036\n那針對今天的專題報告我想因為質詢時間有限本席要特別針對農產的部分為台東的農民來請命我想因為如果兩岸的關係持續的冰凍對台東的農產品衝擊非常大我想這個本席在散會期都不斷的質詢那對於如何要來改善我們從今天陸委會提出的報告仍然看不出有更好的方法\n\n10\n00:03:12,079 --> 00:03:38,420\n那主委你在報告中一直強調陸委會跟農業部非常的努力但本席要跟主委報告我相信你們願意努力但是問題是從目前的結果來看農民真的很難感受到那也因為這樣地方政府跟農友必須要自立自強台東縣在饒縣長不斷的努力下積極溝通好不容易終於才幫助台東的世家恢復銷售往中國大陸那今年出饒縣長也帶團到對岸行銷農產品\n\n11\n00:03:41,542 --> 00:03:58,974\n本席也跟青龍也一起過去我想大家的心態都很單純就是我們只想要幫農民找出路那結果沒有想到說居然有往今側翼把這些青龍的照片放到網路上說他們是去向中國下跪\n\n12\n00:04:00,493 --> 00:04:11,320\n我想這個害無辜的青農又被這些青鳥出征我想這個真的是已經瘋狂到一個極點那地方首長幫農民賣農產品有錯嗎農民幫自己找出物有錯嗎\n\n13\n00:04:15,783 --> 00:04:43,660\n我們台灣不能因為政治惡鬥剝奪民生造成人民之間的仇恨跟堆積這是本市一直在要求的那最後本席最後要跟陸委會來表達就是我們千萬不要忘記你們重要的職責之一就是維持兩岸的互動跟關係協助我們兩岸的關係能夠良性的發展那當地方政府願意來分擔部分的責任那協助政府改善兩岸經濟貿易的同時也請中央政府應該要扮演隊友的角色而不是在旁邊\n\n14\n00:04:44,460 --> 00:05:05,559\n人言人語甚至攻擊我想要呼籲大家請務必放下政治鬥爭注重民生經濟跟我們地方政府還有民間團體共同來打開產業的活路讓台東的農業觀光可以恢復往日的榮景以上我想跟主委來說這些我心裡的話謝謝主委\n\n15\n00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:24,919\n謝謝黃委員有關於台中的農業也好觀光也好我想我也多次跟委員說明我們確實要保護我們的農民守護我們的農業那麼由於中國大陸對台還是有很多區別對待還是有很多統戰的思考\n\n16\n00:05:25,379 --> 00:05:46,735\n我們怕它說斷就斷反而讓農民更加的血本無歸還有我們觀光業者更加的投訴我們所以我們要保障它維護它恐怕對於中國大陸的交流我們要非常審慎以對不過就站在委員服務鄉親立場我們也是一樣我們都跟主管部會農業部來保護農民跟我們觀光署一樣來協助我們業者我們會全力以赴謝謝委員資訊\n\n17\n00:05:53,640 --> 00:06:02,119\n謝謝主委把我們老百姓放在心裡面那本席未來我們也期待能夠一起努力讓我們的人民過更好的生活謝謝主委謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5327\t8245\t謝謝主席 我們有請陸委會主委好 請邱主委\n17288\t38796\t黃委員好所以首先本席要表達的內容其實是要針對我們各部會來做溝通不是只有針對陸委會那今天是審查我們海委會、各委會、中選會、陸委會總預算報告的結通案那本席相信內政委員會的委員態度都一致就是希望中央能夠儘速送結通報告來我們這樣可以儘速來審議儘速的趕快來動之預算\n41817\t56587\t謝謝委員但我們攤開整個時間表來看114年年度我們中央政府總預算在今年的1月21號三讀通過2月19號立法院知情賴總統公布那賴總統則是在3月21日才公布那依照過去我們的慣例\n57327\t84670\t那當總統公佈之後各部會應該就會著手提交相關的這個解凍的專案報告或者是書面報告給立法院那不過這段時間有公務人員吹哨者爆料有高層要求部會押注預算的解凍報告那甚至文化部內部的信件更直接說請確認解凍報告不會被解讀成早早就寫好現在才送來的這個字眼而行政院主任長甚至到1月22號才公佈表示\n85330\t101067\t要各部會解凍案一律全部送出來這有趣的是說當院長這一句話一講完立法院就收到各部會的預算解凍報告我想這根本就是坐實各部會其實確實早就準備好這個解凍報告但因為高層的壓力才不敢送\n102168\t126750\t中央政府是不是政治操作而刻意拖延預算凍結那我想國人的眼睛都是雪亮的齁那根據中華民國憲法第六條的規定立法院有議決法例案、預算案、建案等重要事項之權這也代表立法院深負憲法賦予的預算審查權目的就是為了要為我們人民守住納稅人的錢因此才會要求各部會\n128240\t150547\t提出相關的報告跟國人說清楚說我們的錢到底要怎麼用我想這才是政府負責任的一個態度的表現那然而我們立法院在聽取各部會預算解凍報告的內容之後只要預算運用合理我相信絕對都會支持預算解凍讓各部會可以盡快來執行因此本席在這邊要跟各部會再一次表達\n151667\t169467\t只要合理的使用預算本席絕對支持也希望能夠盡速整理盡速解凍使用我們也希望各部會可以跟立法院積極來溝通不要因為特定高層的壓力而選擇讓政治掛帥製造更多的爭議甚至也讓我們的公務員為難\n170808\t191036\t那針對今天的專題報告我想因為質詢時間有限本席要特別針對農產的部分為台東的農民來請命我想因為如果兩岸的關係持續的冰凍對台東的農產品衝擊非常大我想這個本席在散會期都不斷的質詢那對於如何要來改善我們從今天陸委會提出的報告仍然看不出有更好的方法\n192079\t218420\t那主委你在報告中一直強調陸委會跟農業部非常的努力但本席要跟主委報告我相信你們願意努力但是問題是從目前的結果來看農民真的很難感受到那也因為這樣地方政府跟農友必須要自立自強台東縣在饒縣長不斷的努力下積極溝通好不容易終於才幫助台東的世家恢復銷售往中國大陸那今年出饒縣長也帶團到對岸行銷農產品\n221542\t238974\t本席也跟青龍也一起過去我想大家的心態都很單純就是我們只想要幫農民找出路那結果沒有想到說居然有往今側翼把這些青龍的照片放到網路上說他們是去向中國下跪\n240493\t251320\t我想這個害無辜的青農又被這些青鳥出征我想這個真的是已經瘋狂到一個極點那地方首長幫農民賣農產品有錯嗎農民幫自己找出物有錯嗎\n255783\t283660\t我們台灣不能因為政治惡鬥剝奪民生造成人民之間的仇恨跟堆積這是本市一直在要求的那最後本席最後要跟陸委會來表達就是我們千萬不要忘記你們重要的職責之一就是維持兩岸的互動跟關係協助我們兩岸的關係能夠良性的發展那當地方政府願意來分擔部分的責任那協助政府改善兩岸經濟貿易的同時也請中央政府應該要扮演隊友的角色而不是在旁邊\n284460\t305559\t人言人語甚至攻擊我想要呼籲大家請務必放下政治鬥爭注重民生經濟跟我們地方政府還有民間團體共同來打開產業的活路讓台東的農業觀光可以恢復往日的榮景以上我想跟主委來說這些我心裡的話謝謝主委\n307909\t324919\t謝謝黃委員有關於台中的農業也好 觀光也好我想我也多次跟委員說明我們確實要保護我們的農民守護我們的農業那麼由於中國大陸對台還是有很多區別對待還是有很多統戰的思考\n325379\t346735\t我們怕它說斷就斷反而讓農民更加的血本無歸還有我們觀光業者更加的投訴我們所以我們要保障它維護它恐怕對於中國大陸的交流我們要非常審慎以對不過就站在委員服務鄉親立場我們也是一樣我們都跟主管部會農業部來保護農民跟我們觀光署一樣來協助我們業者我們會全力以赴謝謝委員資訊\n353640\t362119\t謝謝主委把我們老百姓放在心裡面那本席未來我們也期待能夠一起努力讓我們的人民過更好的生活謝謝主委 謝謝主席\n","txt":"謝謝主席 我們有請陸委會主委好 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觀光也好我想我也多次跟委員說明我們確實要保護我們的農民守護我們的農業那麼由於中國大陸對台還是有很多區別對待還是有很多統戰的思考\n我們怕它說斷就斷反而讓農民更加的血本無歸還有我們觀光業者更加的投訴我們所以我們要保障它維護它恐怕對於中國大陸的交流我們要非常審慎以對不過就站在委員服務鄉親立場我們也是一樣我們都跟主管部會農業部來保護農民跟我們觀光署一樣來協助我們業者我們會全力以赴謝謝委員資訊\n謝謝主委把我們老百姓放在心裡面那本席未來我們也期待能夠一起努力讓我們的人民過更好的生活謝謝主委 謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.327 --> 00:08.245\n謝謝主席我們有請陸委會主委好請邱主委\n\n00:17.288 --> 00:38.796\n黃委員好所以首先本席要表達的內容其實是要針對我們各部會來做溝通不是只有針對陸委會那今天是審查我們海委會、各委會、中選會、陸委會總預算報告的結通案那本席相信內政委員會的委員態度都一致就是希望中央能夠儘速送結通報告來我們這樣可以儘速來審議儘速的趕快來動之預算\n\n00:41.817 --> 00:56.587\n謝謝委員但我們攤開整個時間表來看114年年度我們中央政府總預算在今年的1月21號三讀通過2月19號立法院知情賴總統公布那賴總統則是在3月21日才公布那依照過去我們的慣例\n\n00:57.327 --> 01:24.670\n那當總統公佈之後各部會應該就會著手提交相關的這個解凍的專案報告或者是書面報告給立法院那不過這段時間有公務人員吹哨者爆料有高層要求部會押注預算的解凍報告那甚至文化部內部的信件更直接說請確認解凍報告不會被解讀成早早就寫好現在才送來的這個字眼而行政院主任長甚至到1月22號才公佈表示\n\n01:25.330 --> 01:41.067\n要各部會解凍案一律全部送出來這有趣的是說當院長這一句話一講完立法院就收到各部會的預算解凍報告我想這根本就是坐實各部會其實確實早就準備好這個解凍報告但因為高層的壓力才不敢送\n\n01:42.168 --> 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