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00:02:15,360\n如果說他不會我們期待的監理機關他應該會是一個拔光的一個機制如果說我們的舉發單位他對於法條的認知有誤解或者是對違規形態的有所判斷錯誤的話我們的裁決機關他應該是要有一個撤銷的一個功能吧就是他要去做一個裁判的功能他應該要有吧但實務上我們這樣遇到一般來說都是這個舉發機關怎麼說裁決機關就怎麼做這樣子\n\n7\n00:02:37,001 --> 00:03:02,205\n這個部分我大概跟委員我們再報告一下大概就是說這針對這個陳警事項如果說是屬於市政的部分的話大概就會比較尊重這個舉發機關的差異那如果說是屬於適用條款的適當性的部分那如果說舉發機關很明顯他這樣子的一個這個違規行為所這個援引的條款是這個不得已的話那原則上這個舉發機關那個處罰機關\n\n8\n00:03:05,606 --> 00:03:33,603\n就會請舉發機關去變更適用的這個這個條款那如果說在本身這個裁決包括這個就是說處罰機關或原舉發機關如果認為說這樣子的違規行為適用處罰條例哪一個條款有疑慮等等的部分的話大概會有兩個管道第一個部分的話警察機關的部分大概會循著檢診系統到這個檢診署那檢診署如果認為說需要報部來示意的話就會有檢診署這邊報部來做\n\n9\n00:03:35,384 --> 00:03:35,804\n這個當然有現行的一個機制在啦\n\n10\n00:03:59,659 --> 00:04:19,479\n但是我為什麼會注意到這個問題就是我應該有些同仁知道我這過去一年來有還蠻關注在打方向燈這件事情上面什麼情況下要打什麼情況不用打那很多民眾檢舉就是檢舉民眾打方向燈當然變換車道這不用講就是穿越入口的一個形態那我遇到的問題是警察機關受理了\n\n11\n00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:43,153\n那警察認為違規他舉發了然後民眾申訴認為我應該不用打然後當然就跟這個裁決機關去做申訴裁決機關他也就尊重警察機關然後維持原判那最後我把這個交通部的這個解釋函就是一些相關的示函給警察單位去了解方向燈到底怎麼打的時候警察單位才去測單那就變成說我們好像\n\n12\n00:04:46,728 --> 00:05:10,807\n我們照理來說開罰單應該是有兩個民眾檢舉有兩個把關機制嘛一個是受理機關警察機關第二個就是我們的裁決機關結果我們兩個裁決機關好像都沒有人就是在我講的這個案例就是打方向燈的事情上面好像兩個單位都對於這個法例的適用都有所誤解那導致這個罰單開出去那申訴也都不會過那我可不可以請就是單就\n\n13\n00:05:12,188 --> 00:05:18,272\n這個部分當然一部分是教育訓練一部分是執法同仁的教育訓練一部分是我們自己監理機關跟這個裁決處的一個教育訓練如果說警察誤解法令的時候我們的這個裁決機關應該要去糾正我們的同仁那有了糾正的過了那之後警察知道了因為警察要管的事情太多他不會對每一條法令都很熟悉應該是我們交通單位對法令最熟悉那我們有相關的一個撤銷罰單之後\n\n14\n00:05:38,524 --> 00:06:00,323\n那警察單位也會知道未來這個形態可能有違規或沒有違規嘛這才是一個可能系統性的一個檢討那短期間內啦短期間內我們那個警政署也一起上來好不好組長短期間內因為我近期雖然說我對這個打方向燈這件事情有做了很多的討論那警政署也有幫我發行給各地的警察機關針對打方向燈這件事情去教育同仁\n\n15\n00:06:00,723 --> 00:06:06,748\n還是有很多錯誤的罰單開出來我可不可以請我們的裁決機關或者是我們的舉發機關你們可不可以針對打方向燈的這個沒有打方向燈誤開的罰單去做一個通盤性的一個檢視我相信一年絕對有上千萬的一個違規的罰金是誤開的\n\n16\n00:06:22,842 --> 00:06:50,296\n你們那個警政署你這邊可不可以因為我最近還你應該知道我講的這個我們常常討論這個東西嘛你們可不可以請某一個分怎麼樣來檢視過去錯誤的開的罰單因為很多民眾都沒有檢舉都沒有申訴啊那個開沒有方向沒有開方向燈喔這個大部分都是民眾檢舉違規的人啦對那剛剛委員所指的不是真的誤開的部分就是懂人對於法令不了解所開出來的這些罰單你們有沒有辦法通盤性的去檢討\n\n17\n00:06:53,284 --> 00:07:10,535\n這些單子我們可以整個調出來看看總共一年開了多少單子然後看看是不是比較有疑慮的我們再去檢視那個畫面好我也不要造成警察同仁太大的負擔我一個請託啦你看他們做不做得到就是針對可能\n\n18\n00:07:11,255 --> 00:07:26,571\n今年1月1號開始到現在為止當然時間你們如果說認為太長的話你們可以提也沒關係就這段時間針對未打方向燈被開罰單的部分可不可以請我們的警察同仁去檢視有多少是誤開的\n\n19\n00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:46,609\n這個部分我們回去從1月1號開始重新檢視這個回去我們對我們調出來再研究一下看看好那當然在檢視的前提下是要先讓我們的警察同仁對於打方向燈這件事情有一個正確的一個認知那普遍要重新的教育宣導那另外我們的這個裁決機關至少我們公路局\n\n20\n00:07:47,590 --> 00:08:15,667\n我們是監理單位嘛我們可不可以針對所有民眾這個申訴的一個部分有關要不要打方向燈申訴的部分也從今年1月1號開始重新檢視看有多少是誤開的罰單那我們再給予主動的撤銷是沒有問題我們會整個挑檔然後就整個陳情或者是那個舉發的這個太陽如果是跟原來布裡面的函式有不一致那需要撤銷的部分我們來處理好那這個時間要需要多久\n\n21\n00:08:19,005 --> 00:08:37,641\n好這個部分我們局原則上因為是非六都以外的監理站那我們自己可以一個月一個月嗎對對對那警察警政署這邊咧我們這邊也給一個月好嗎一個月好那就一個月好謝謝謝謝我們所有同仁謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2995\t7017\t有關我提的停車場法 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我遇到大部分的情況都是先函請給舉發機關做說明但一般來說舉發機關如果說認定違規是事實的話那我們這個裁決機關或監理單位他原則上都會尊重這個舉發機關如果是這樣子的一個狀態的話我不曉得我們的裁決機關它到底存在的意義是什麼\n126434\t135360\t如果說他不會我們期待的監理機關他應該會是一個拔光的一個機制如果說我們的舉發單位他對於法條的認知有誤解或者是對違規形態的有所判斷錯誤的話我們的裁決機關他應該是要有一個撤銷的一個功能吧就是他要去做一個裁判的功能他應該要有吧但實務上我們這樣遇到一般來說都是這個舉發機關怎麼說裁決機關就怎麼做這樣子\n157001\t182205\t這個部分我大概跟委員我們再報告一下大概就是說這針對這個陳警事項如果說是屬於市政的部分的話大概就會比較尊重這個舉發機關的差異那如果說是屬於適用條款的適當性的部分那如果說舉發機關很明顯他這樣子的一個這個違規行為所這個援引的條款是這個不得已的話那原則上這個舉發機關那個處罰機關\n185606\t213603\t就會請舉發機關去變更適用的這個這個條款那如果說在本身這個裁決包括這個就是說處罰機關或原舉發機關如果認為說這樣子的違規行為適用處罰條例哪一個條款有疑慮等等的部分的話大概會有兩個管道第一個部分的話警察機關的部分大概會循著檢診系統到這個檢診署那檢診署如果認為說需要報部來示意的話就會有檢診署這邊報部來做\n215384\t215804\t這個當然有現行的一個機制在啦\n239659\t259479\t但是我為什麼會注意到這個問題就是我應該有些同仁知道我這過去一年來有還蠻關注在打方向燈這件事情上面什麼情況下要打什麼情況不用打那很多民眾檢舉就是檢舉民眾打方向燈當然變換車道這不用講就是穿越入口的一個形態那我遇到的問題是警察機關受理了\n260160\t283153\t那警察認為違規他舉發了然後民眾申訴認為我應該不用打然後當然就跟這個裁決機關去做申訴裁決機關他也就尊重警察機關然後維持原判那最後我把這個交通部的這個解釋函就是一些相關的示函給警察單位去了解方向燈到底怎麼打的時候警察單位才去測單那就變成說我們好像\n286728\t310807\t我們照理來說開罰單應該是有兩個民眾檢舉有兩個把關機制嘛一個是受理機關警察機關第二個就是我們的裁決機關結果我們兩個裁決機關好像都沒有人就是在我講的這個案例就是打方向燈的事情上面好像兩個單位都對於這個法例的適用都有所誤解那導致這個罰單開出去那申訴也都不會過那我可不可以請就是單就\n312188\t318272\t這個部分當然一部分是教育訓練一部分是執法同仁的教育訓練一部分是我們自己監理機關跟這個裁決處的一個教育訓練如果說警察誤解法令的時候我們的這個裁決機關應該要去糾正我們的同仁那有了糾正的過了那之後警察知道了因為警察要管的事情太多他不會對每一條法令都很熟悉應該是我們交通單位對法令最熟悉那我們有相關的一個撤銷罰單之後\n338524\t360323\t那警察單位也會知道未來這個形態可能有違規或沒有違規嘛這才是一個可能系統性的一個檢討那短期間內啦短期間內我們那個警政署也一起上來好不好組長短期間內因為我近期雖然說我對這個打方向燈這件事情有做了很多的討論那警政署也有幫我發行給各地的警察機關針對打方向燈這件事情去教育同仁\n360723\t366748\t還是有很多錯誤的罰單開出來我可不可以請我們的裁決機關或者是我們的舉發機關你們可不可以針對打方向燈的這個沒有打方向燈誤開的罰單去做一個通盤性的一個檢視我相信一年絕對有上千萬的一個違規的罰金是誤開的\n382842\t410296\t你們那個警政署你這邊可不可以因為我最近還你應該知道我講的這個我們常常討論這個東西嘛你們可不可以請某一個分怎麼樣來檢視過去錯誤的開的罰單因為很多民眾都沒有檢舉都沒有申訴啊那個開沒有方向沒有開方向燈喔這個大部分都是民眾檢舉違規的人啦對那剛剛委員所指的不是真的誤開的部分就是懂人對於法令不了解所開出來的這些罰單你們有沒有辦法通盤性的去檢討\n413284\t430535\t這些單子我們可以整個調出來看看總共一年開了多少單子然後看看是不是比較有疑慮的我們再去檢視那個畫面好 我也不要造成警察同仁太大的負擔我一個請託啦你看他們做不做得到就是針對可能\n431255\t446571\t今年1月1號開始到現在為止當然時間你們如果說認為太長的話你們可以提也沒關係就這段時間針對未打方向燈被開罰單的部分可不可以請我們的警察同仁去檢視有多少是誤開的\n448770\t466609\t這個部分我們回去從1月1號開始重新檢視這個回去我們對我們調出來再研究一下看看好那當然在檢視的前提下是要先讓我們的警察同仁對於打方向燈這件事情有一個正確的一個認知那普遍要重新的教育宣導那另外我們的這個裁決機關至少我們公路局\n467590\t495667\t我們是監理單位嘛我們可不可以針對所有民眾這個申訴的一個部分有關要不要打方向燈申訴的部分也從今年1月1號開始重新檢視看有多少是誤開的罰單那我們再給予主動的撤銷是 沒有問題我們會整個挑檔然後就整個陳情或者是那個舉發的這個太陽如果是跟原來布裡面的函式有不一致那需要撤銷的部分我們來處理好 那這個時間要需要多久\n499005\t517641\t好 這個部分我們局原則上因為是非六都以外的監理站那我們自己可以一個月一個月嗎 對對對那警察 警政署這邊咧我們這邊也給一個月好嗎一個月 好 那就一個月好 謝謝 謝謝我們所有同仁 謝謝主席\n","txt":"有關我提的停車場法 簡單說明一下如果說在充電樁有插在車上的情況下那因為有時候你要去判斷是他有沒有在充電他有一些技術上的問題或故障問題\n就算沒有在充電你要移置其實你也移置不了因為插著的時候一般來說我們充電裝的這個充電孔它都有卡榫除非你用轉接頭不然的話它是拔不出來的所以說我希望後續的一些討論能夠聚焦在沒有在插充電這個插頭的情況下這樣子很明確違規的情況下不管是油車或電車的違規情況下那可不可以移置我也是主動通報希望後續針對這點討論那我今天\n想跟市長討論一下這個罰單的部分交通違規罰單的部分交通違規罰單如果說我們民眾收到罰單如果都會有寫這個申訴的機制要嘛跟這個地方政府的交通事件裁決處處所或者是監理單位來做申訴我想確認一下我們這兩個單位在收到了之後他們大概都是會怎麼樣的來做後續的SOP\n如果說是違規人跟大案處罰機關做這個申訴的話那針對他這個就是說申訴的這個室友的部分或是說相關認為說有疑慮的事項的部分的話那原則上處罰機關大概就會正式函請這個舉發機關來查復做說明\n對 我遇到大部分的情況都是先函請給舉發機關做說明但一般來說舉發機關如果說認定違規是事實的話那我們這個裁決機關或監理單位他原則上都會尊重這個舉發機關如果是這樣子的一個狀態的話我不曉得我們的裁決機關它到底存在的意義是什麼\n如果說他不會我們期待的監理機關他應該會是一個拔光的一個機制如果說我們的舉發單位他對於法條的認知有誤解或者是對違規形態的有所判斷錯誤的話我們的裁決機關他應該是要有一個撤銷的一個功能吧就是他要去做一個裁判的功能他應該要有吧但實務上我們這樣遇到一般來說都是這個舉發機關怎麼說裁決機關就怎麼做這樣子\n這個部分我大概跟委員我們再報告一下大概就是說這針對這個陳警事項如果說是屬於市政的部分的話大概就會比較尊重這個舉發機關的差異那如果說是屬於適用條款的適當性的部分那如果說舉發機關很明顯他這樣子的一個這個違規行為所這個援引的條款是這個不得已的話那原則上這個舉發機關那個處罰機關\n就會請舉發機關去變更適用的這個這個條款那如果說在本身這個裁決包括這個就是說處罰機關或原舉發機關如果認為說這樣子的違規行為適用處罰條例哪一個條款有疑慮等等的部分的話大概會有兩個管道第一個部分的話警察機關的部分大概會循著檢診系統到這個檢診署那檢診署如果認為說需要報部來示意的話就會有檢診署這邊報部來做\n這個當然有現行的一個機制在啦\n但是我為什麼會注意到這個問題就是我應該有些同仁知道我這過去一年來有還蠻關注在打方向燈這件事情上面什麼情況下要打什麼情況不用打那很多民眾檢舉就是檢舉民眾打方向燈當然變換車道這不用講就是穿越入口的一個形態那我遇到的問題是警察機關受理了\n那警察認為違規他舉發了然後民眾申訴認為我應該不用打然後當然就跟這個裁決機關去做申訴裁決機關他也就尊重警察機關然後維持原判那最後我把這個交通部的這個解釋函就是一些相關的示函給警察單位去了解方向燈到底怎麼打的時候警察單位才去測單那就變成說我們好像\n我們照理來說開罰單應該是有兩個民眾檢舉有兩個把關機制嘛一個是受理機關警察機關第二個就是我們的裁決機關結果我們兩個裁決機關好像都沒有人就是在我講的這個案例就是打方向燈的事情上面好像兩個單位都對於這個法例的適用都有所誤解那導致這個罰單開出去那申訴也都不會過那我可不可以請就是單就\n這個部分當然一部分是教育訓練一部分是執法同仁的教育訓練一部分是我們自己監理機關跟這個裁決處的一個教育訓練如果說警察誤解法令的時候我們的這個裁決機關應該要去糾正我們的同仁那有了糾正的過了那之後警察知道了因為警察要管的事情太多他不會對每一條法令都很熟悉應該是我們交通單位對法令最熟悉那我們有相關的一個撤銷罰單之後\n那警察單位也會知道未來這個形態可能有違規或沒有違規嘛這才是一個可能系統性的一個檢討那短期間內啦短期間內我們那個警政署也一起上來好不好組長短期間內因為我近期雖然說我對這個打方向燈這件事情有做了很多的討論那警政署也有幫我發行給各地的警察機關針對打方向燈這件事情去教育同仁\n還是有很多錯誤的罰單開出來我可不可以請我們的裁決機關或者是我們的舉發機關你們可不可以針對打方向燈的這個沒有打方向燈誤開的罰單去做一個通盤性的一個檢視我相信一年絕對有上千萬的一個違規的罰金是誤開的\n你們那個警政署你這邊可不可以因為我最近還你應該知道我講的這個我們常常討論這個東西嘛你們可不可以請某一個分怎麼樣來檢視過去錯誤的開的罰單因為很多民眾都沒有檢舉都沒有申訴啊那個開沒有方向沒有開方向燈喔這個大部分都是民眾檢舉違規的人啦對那剛剛委員所指的不是真的誤開的部分就是懂人對於法令不了解所開出來的這些罰單你們有沒有辦法通盤性的去檢討\n這些單子我們可以整個調出來看看總共一年開了多少單子然後看看是不是比較有疑慮的我們再去檢視那個畫面好 我也不要造成警察同仁太大的負擔我一個請託啦你看他們做不做得到就是針對可能\n今年1月1號開始到現在為止當然時間你們如果說認為太長的話你們可以提也沒關係就這段時間針對未打方向燈被開罰單的部分可不可以請我們的警察同仁去檢視有多少是誤開的\n這個部分我們回去從1月1號開始重新檢視這個回去我們對我們調出來再研究一下看看好那當然在檢視的前提下是要先讓我們的警察同仁對於打方向燈這件事情有一個正確的一個認知那普遍要重新的教育宣導那另外我們的這個裁決機關至少我們公路局\n我們是監理單位嘛我們可不可以針對所有民眾這個申訴的一個部分有關要不要打方向燈申訴的部分也從今年1月1號開始重新檢視看有多少是誤開的罰單那我們再給予主動的撤銷是 沒有問題我們會整個挑檔然後就整個陳情或者是那個舉發的這個太陽如果是跟原來布裡面的函式有不一致那需要撤銷的部分我們來處理好 那這個時間要需要多久\n好 這個部分我們局原則上因為是非六都以外的監理站那我們自己可以一個月一個月嗎 對對對那警察 警政署這邊咧我們這邊也給一個月好嗎一個月 好 那就一個月好 謝謝 謝謝我們所有同仁 謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.995 --> 00:07.017\n有關我提的停車場法簡單說明一下如果說在充電樁有插在車上的情況下那因為有時候你要去判斷是他有沒有在充電他有一些技術上的問題或故障問題\n\n00:28.365 --> 00:53.426\n就算沒有在充電你要移置其實你也移置不了因為插著的時候一般來說我們充電裝的這個充電孔它都有卡榫除非你用轉接頭不然的話它是拔不出來的所以說我希望後續的一些討論能夠聚焦在沒有在插充電這個插頭的情況下這樣子很明確違規的情況下不管是油車或電車的違規情況下那可不可以移置我也是主動通報希望後續針對這點討論那我今天\n\n00:55.928 --> 01:03.330\n想跟市長討論一下這個罰單的部分交通違規罰單的部分交通違規罰單如果說我們民眾收到罰單如果都會有寫這個申訴的機制要嘛跟這個地方政府的交通事件裁決處處所或者是監理單位來做申訴我想確認一下我們這兩個單位在收到了之後他們大概都是會怎麼樣的來做後續的SOP\n\n01:25.340 --> 01:41.833\n如果說是違規人跟大案處罰機關做這個申訴的話那針對他這個就是說申訴的這個室友的部分或是說相關認為說有疑慮的事項的部分的話那原則上處罰機關大概就會正式函請這個舉發機關來查復做說明\n\n01:44.783 --> 01:51.627\n對我遇到大部分的情況都是先函請給舉發機關做說明但一般來說舉發機關如果說認定違規是事實的話那我們這個裁決機關或監理單位他原則上都會尊重這個舉發機關如果是這樣子的一個狀態的話我不曉得我們的裁決機關它到底存在的意義是什麼\n\n02:06.434 --> 02:15.360\n如果說他不會我們期待的監理機關他應該會是一個拔光的一個機制如果說我們的舉發單位他對於法條的認知有誤解或者是對違規形態的有所判斷錯誤的話我們的裁決機關他應該是要有一個撤銷的一個功能吧就是他要去做一個裁判的功能他應該要有吧但實務上我們這樣遇到一般來說都是這個舉發機關怎麼說裁決機關就怎麼做這樣子\n\n02:37.001 --> 03:02.205\n這個部分我大概跟委員我們再報告一下大概就是說這針對這個陳警事項如果說是屬於市政的部分的話大概就會比較尊重這個舉發機關的差異那如果說是屬於適用條款的適當性的部分那如果說舉發機關很明顯他這樣子的一個這個違規行為所這個援引的條款是這個不得已的話那原則上這個舉發機關那個處罰機關\n\n03:05.606 --> 03:33.603\n就會請舉發機關去變更適用的這個這個條款那如果說在本身這個裁決包括這個就是說處罰機關或原舉發機關如果認為說這樣子的違規行為適用處罰條例哪一個條款有疑慮等等的部分的話大概會有兩個管道第一個部分的話警察機關的部分大概會循著檢診系統到這個檢診署那檢診署如果認為說需要報部來示意的話就會有檢診署這邊報部來做\n\n03:35.384 --> 03:35.804\n這個當然有現行的一個機制在啦\n\n03:59.659 --> 04:19.479\n但是我為什麼會注意到這個問題就是我應該有些同仁知道我這過去一年來有還蠻關注在打方向燈這件事情上面什麼情況下要打什麼情況不用打那很多民眾檢舉就是檢舉民眾打方向燈當然變換車道這不用講就是穿越入口的一個形態那我遇到的問題是警察機關受理了\n\n04:20.160 --> 04:43.153\n那警察認為違規他舉發了然後民眾申訴認為我應該不用打然後當然就跟這個裁決機關去做申訴裁決機關他也就尊重警察機關然後維持原判那最後我把這個交通部的這個解釋函就是一些相關的示函給警察單位去了解方向燈到底怎麼打的時候警察單位才去測單那就變成說我們好像\n\n04:46.728 --> 05:10.807\n我們照理來說開罰單應該是有兩個民眾檢舉有兩個把關機制嘛一個是受理機關警察機關第二個就是我們的裁決機關結果我們兩個裁決機關好像都沒有人就是在我講的這個案例就是打方向燈的事情上面好像兩個單位都對於這個法例的適用都有所誤解那導致這個罰單開出去那申訴也都不會過那我可不可以請就是單就\n\n05:12.188 --> 05:18.272\n這個部分當然一部分是教育訓練一部分是執法同仁的教育訓練一部分是我們自己監理機關跟這個裁決處的一個教育訓練如果說警察誤解法令的時候我們的這個裁決機關應該要去糾正我們的同仁那有了糾正的過了那之後警察知道了因為警察要管的事情太多他不會對每一條法令都很熟悉應該是我們交通單位對法令最熟悉那我們有相關的一個撤銷罰單之後\n\n05:38.524 --> 06:00.323\n那警察單位也會知道未來這個形態可能有違規或沒有違規嘛這才是一個可能系統性的一個檢討那短期間內啦短期間內我們那個警政署也一起上來好不好組長短期間內因為我近期雖然說我對這個打方向燈這件事情有做了很多的討論那警政署也有幫我發行給各地的警察機關針對打方向燈這件事情去教育同仁\n\n06:00.723 --> 06:06.748\n還是有很多錯誤的罰單開出來我可不可以請我們的裁決機關或者是我們的舉發機關你們可不可以針對打方向燈的這個沒有打方向燈誤開的罰單去做一個通盤性的一個檢視我相信一年絕對有上千萬的一個違規的罰金是誤開的\n\n06:22.842 --> 06:50.296\n你們那個警政署你這邊可不可以因為我最近還你應該知道我講的這個我們常常討論這個東西嘛你們可不可以請某一個分怎麼樣來檢視過去錯誤的開的罰單因為很多民眾都沒有檢舉都沒有申訴啊那個開沒有方向沒有開方向燈喔這個大部分都是民眾檢舉違規的人啦對那剛剛委員所指的不是真的誤開的部分就是懂人對於法令不了解所開出來的這些罰單你們有沒有辦法通盤性的去檢討\n\n06:53.284 --> 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一) 委員林俊憲等23 人擬具「公路法第二十七條、第二十八條及第七十五條條文修正草案」、\n(二)委員陳冠廷等18人、(三)委員徐富癸等17人分別擬具「公路法第三十二條條文修正草案」、\n(四)委員陳冠廷等16人擬具「公路法第三十三條條文修正草案」、(五)台灣民眾黨黨團、(六)委\n員馬文君等19 人、( 七) 委員邱若華等17 人分別擬具「公路法第三十九條之一條文修正草案」、\n(八)委員何欣純等18人擬具「公路法第四十六條及第六十條之一條文修正草案」、(九)委員王義\n川等16人擬具「公路法第六十五條條文修正草案」及(十)委員林俊憲等21人擬具「公路法第七十\n二條條文修正草案」案；三、審查 ( 一 ) 委員林俊憲等 22 人擬具「停車場法第四條條文修正草\n案」、(二)委員廖先翔等17人擬具「停車場法第三十二條條文修正草案」及(三)台灣民眾黨黨團\n擬具「停車場法第三十八條條文修正草案」案。【本日會議僅針對開會事由二及三進行合併詢\n答】","agenda_id":"1144802_00001"}}}