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00:02:59,664\n這個稅我們當然像對等關稅是越低越好至少不能高於我們對我們其真的國家因為你是外交部長都參與其中而且等於是在第一線所以再一次請教總統先生這麼說了會不會我們會低於還是高於這10%這是第一個議題第二個也就是我們的豁免產品據你所悉到目前為止我們有嗎\n\n10\n00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:17,312\n我們希望說在半導體還有這些跟資通訊有關的能夠豁免因為這個我們供應鏈跟美國是半導體跟資通訊對跟互補嘛因為我們這些產品跟它說實在是供應鏈的關係其實如果高關稅是兩敗俱傷甚至甚至它傷得更重我們當然是去說明那事實上他們也慢慢的了解我們像這個供應鏈互補的關係\n\n11\n00:03:36,423 --> 00:03:43,607\n可是基於談判的策略最後的結果會如何現在是對等關稅在先跟電子業相關的這一些這個本來就沒有關稅的問題的時候現在再加上去但是這個是屬於232條款那現在先談的是對等關稅\n\n12\n00:03:58,996 --> 00:04:26,928\n可是因為對冷關稅是把所有的貿易力他都賺進來那我們希望把那個也把它扣除掉其實台美的貿易利差就不大了好這是我們非常的這個希望那麼也希望台灣的貨品產品成本你剛才所報告的那接下來請教南非打壓我國的住處處理的進度目前到底是如何因為在二月份要求我們簽署首都三月份的時候又更名那現在最近又要改為\n\n13\n00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:38,375\n這個月安理事到目前為止我們我方我們交涉的進度到底是如何我們的解方究竟是什麼請做說明是南非想要求我們簽管或者是說要幫我們變更這些地位是從去年就開始我們也做很早的因應到目前為止聽到您說這個是小動作但是這個小動作我們要怎麼去因應呢\n\n14\n00:04:55,168 --> 00:05:05,543\n我們有做好這個就是對策嘛就是說如果實質上因為這個是他片面行為我們不予承認因為根據台灣跟南非的這個1997年雙邊簽訂的協議啊他不能夠片面這樣子做我們法律意義訴訟我們也研究過\n\n15\n00:05:12,773 --> 00:05:23,939\n實質的整個怎麼樣去反制我們也有方案那它現在基於什麼政治的考量片面做這個行為我們在交涉中而且表達嚴正的抗議那因為這個東西也引發了他們國內外的反彈\n\n16\n00:05:28,201 --> 00:05:40,813\n除了美國以外政府跟國會包括他們自己的聯合政府裡面的政黨還有在野黨以及社會大眾包括輿論所以這個壓力其實也是回到他那邊去所以我們希望說還有緩衝的空間但一旦他真正實質傷害到我們比如說強迫要我們簽管或者是做了一些這是違反協議的事情的時候那我們也會有反制這些方案也都準備好\n\n17\n00:05:54,085 --> 00:06:20,960\n部長您剛才談到的我們會有反制喔那麼我們也希望能夠確保他是我們不會遷出的這是我們努力的方向所以當然所以您剛才講了兩個重點第一個是他的片面的行為我們不予承認第二個我們的因應一定要小心應對方案也就是我們不能遷出你可以確保嗎對這是我們的目標也是目前的現況\n\n18\n00:06:21,943 --> 00:06:38,869\n你是目前的現況,所以你一定要確保,是不是?是好,接下來本席要請教,因為09年召聚WHA但是我們台灣的醫療是非常非常的在國際間,對國際也很幫助我們台灣也真的是太棒了\n\n19\n00:06:39,449 --> 00:07:04,674\n所以在這樣的一個情況之下WHA即將在5月19號到27號在瑞士日聯網要展開所以本席當然也主張我們台灣的醫療實力是享譽國際我們不該被排除所以我們外交部要怎麼樣的方案有效的來推動在我們這個方向能夠加入WHA請做說明\n\n20\n00:07:05,094 --> 00:07:30,282\n是那我因為在這一次衛福部長率隊出去日瑞瓦參加WHA的大會之前我們有開雙部長的記者會那我們一方面當然就是由我國家聯名或近恰到邦交國跟非邦交國這些情形都是越來越多支持我們的力量另外可能到大會之後我們要申請加入會有辯論\n\n21\n00:07:31,682 --> 00:07:54,860\n那目前我想還是按照往例進行按照往例進行所以部長因為我們台灣的這個醫療實力確確實實是國際間也非常的重視也是我們最佳的一個優點也是我們最佳的一個戰慾國際的實力我們務必一定要加強而且去落實我跟委員說一下這次有個特色就是強調智慧醫療\n\n22\n00:07:57,242 --> 00:08:00,824\n我們包括像宏碁、智一還有廣達電腦我們現在包括在APEC裡面提的那個所謂數位跟AI在醫療上去解決這些所謂的落差現在也就是醫療我們的數位科技的應用那麼同時也因為WHA這樣子我們看到美國即將要推出WHO\n\n23\n00:08:24,281 --> 00:08:39,734\n那在這樣的一個情況之下台灣台灣是否會失去一個很重要的發聲的一個重要力量那在這樣的情況之下我們外交部你的因應措施呢如果陳真你的因應措施呢\n\n24\n00:08:40,542 --> 00:09:07,658\n這涉及到就是所謂川普總統他們在美國退出這個WHO之後是不是有另外成立類似的組織如果有我們會去參加嘛但是我們還是爭取參加WHO這個我們認為這個問題關鍵當然是因為政治上所以最近包括美國還有歐盟還有很多像日本的國家都在所謂聯合國2758號決議上採取很明確的立場支持台灣而且認為這跟台灣參加包括世界衛生組織這個是\n\n25\n00:09:09,699 --> 00:09:38,636\n沒有排除台灣參加所以我們台灣的醫療實力是戰慾國際我們現在台日台美台歐盟我們必須要加緊這個腳步因為這個是我們非常重要的一個發展的根基參與是我們的權利不沒有被任何決議排除那現在就是說我們沒參加也是世界的損失但是沒參加世界損失我們還可以用其他的方法來貢獻世界所以應對的方案一定要備案\n\n26\n00:09:39,256 --> 00:09:50,722\n當然我們不希望他是陳真但是應對的方案我們務必要備案我們爭取參加世界衛生組織但是我們並不以不能參加就不能夠參與或貢獻國民當然所以剛剛北京所說的台日台美台歐盟我們都必須要務實的去落實嘛好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n29\t1770\t我們來討論川普4月份對大多數的美國貿易國家開徵了高額的關稅剛開始原則上台灣是設定32%的加速關稅\n26477\t54715\t那之後呢 它又降到10% 為期90天大家有這個時間呢 來好好的來討論那同時呢 在國內的產業 因為我們是出口導向所以大家都非常非常的關心 非常關心尤其呢 在中部地區 我們的產業我們的手工具機 工具機 機械類別 零組件這一些呢 都是我們的幫手 非常的重要因為出口導向 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跟互補嘛因為我們這些產品跟它說實在是供應鏈的關係其實如果高關稅是兩敗俱傷甚至甚至它傷得更重我們當然是去說明那事實上他們也慢慢的了解我們像這個供應鏈互補的關係\n216423\t223607\t可是基於談判的策略最後的結果會如何現在是對等關稅在先跟電子業相關的這一些這個本來就沒有關稅的問題的時候現在再加上去但是這個是屬於232條款那現在先談的是對等關稅\n238996\t266928\t可是因為對冷關稅是把所有的貿易力他都賺進來那我們希望把那個也把它扣除掉其實台美的貿易利差就不大了好 這是我們非常的這個希望那麼也希望台灣的貨品產品成本你剛才所報告的那接下來請教南非打壓我國的住處處理的進度目前到底是如何因為在二月份要求我們簽署首都三月份的時候又更名那現在最近又要改為\n268268\t278375\t這個月安理事到目前為止我們我方我們交涉的進度到底是如何我們的解方究竟是什麼請做說明是南非想要求我們簽管或者是說要幫我們變更這些地位是從去年就開始我們也做很早的因應到目前為止聽到您說這個是小動作但是這個小動作我們要怎麼去因應呢\n295168\t305543\t我們有做好這個就是對策嘛就是說如果實質上因為這個是他片面行為我們不予承認因為根據台灣跟南非的這個1997年雙邊簽訂的協議啊他不能夠片面這樣子做我們法律意義訴訟我們也研究過\n312773\t323939\t實質的整個怎麼樣去反制我們也有方案那它現在基於什麼政治的考量片面做這個行為我們在交涉中而且表達嚴正的抗議那因為這個東西也引發了他們國內外的反彈\n328201\t340813\t除了美國以外政府跟國會包括他們自己的聯合政府裡面的政黨還有在野黨以及社會大眾包括輿論所以這個壓力其實也是回到他那邊去所以我們希望說還有緩衝的空間但一旦他真正實質傷害到我們比如說強迫要我們簽管或者是做了一些這是違反協議的事情的時候那我們也會有反制這些方案也都準備好\n354085\t380960\t部長您剛才談到的我們會有反制喔那麼我們也希望能夠確保他是我們不會遷出的這是我們努力的方向所以當然所以您剛才講了兩個重點第一個是他的片面的行為我們不予承認第二個我們的因應一定要小心應對方案也就是我們不能遷出你可以確保嗎對這是我們的目標也是目前的現況\n381943\t398869\t你是目前的現況,所以你一定要確保,是不是?是好,接下來本席要請教,因為09年召聚WHA但是我們台灣的醫療是非常非常的在國際間,對國際也很幫助我們台灣也真的是太棒了\n399449\t424674\t所以在這樣的一個情況之下WHA即將在5月19號到27號在瑞士日聯網要展開所以本席當然也主張我們台灣的醫療實力是享譽國際我們不該被排除所以我們外交部要怎麼樣的方案有效的來推動在我們這個方向能夠加入WHA 請做說明\n425094\t450282\t是 那我因為在這一次衛福部長率隊出去日瑞瓦參加WHA的大會之前我們有開雙部長的記者會那我們一方面當然就是由我國家聯名或近恰到邦交國跟非邦交國這些情形都是越來越多支持我們的力量另外可能到大會之後我們要申請加入會有辯論\n451682\t474860\t那目前我想還是按照往例進行按照往例進行 所以部長因為我們台灣的這個醫療實力確確實實是國際間也非常的重視也是我們最佳的一個優點也是我們最佳的一個戰慾國際的實力我們務必一定要加強而且去落實我跟委員說一下這次有個特色就是強調智慧醫療\n477242\t480824\t我們包括像宏碁、智一還有廣達電腦我們現在包括在APEC裡面提的那個所謂數位跟AI在醫療上去解決這些所謂的落差現在也就是醫療我們的數位科技的應用那麼同時也因為WHA這樣子我們看到美國即將要推出WHO\n504281\t519734\t那在這樣的一個情況之下台灣台灣是否會失去一個很重要的發聲的一個重要力量那在這樣的情況之下我們外交部你的因應措施呢如果陳真你的因應措施呢\n520542\t547658\t這涉及到就是所謂川普總統他們在美國退出這個WHO之後是不是有另外成立類似的組織如果有我們會去參加嘛但是我們還是爭取參加WHO這個我們認為這個問題關鍵當然是因為政治上所以最近包括美國還有歐盟還有很多像日本的國家都在所謂聯合國2758號決議上採取很明確的立場支持台灣而且認為這跟台灣參加包括世界衛生組織這個是\n549699\t578636\t沒有排除台灣參加所以我們台灣的醫療實力是戰慾國際我們現在台日台美台歐盟我們必須要加緊這個腳步因為這個是我們非常重要的一個發展的根基參與是我們的權利不沒有被任何決議排除那現在就是說我們沒參加也是世界的損失但是沒參加世界損失我們還可以用其他的方法來貢獻世界所以應對的方案一定要備案\n579256\t590722\t當然我們不希望他是陳真但是應對的方案我們務必要備案我們爭取參加世界衛生組織但是我們並不以不能參加就不能夠參與或貢獻國民當然所以剛剛北京所說的台日台美台歐盟我們都必須要務實的去落實嘛好謝謝\n","txt":"我們來討論川普4月份對大多數的美國貿易國家開徵了高額的關稅剛開始原則上台灣是設定32%的加速關稅\n那之後呢 它又降到10% 為期90天大家有這個時間呢 來好好的來討論那同時呢 在國內的產業 因為我們是出口導向所以大家都非常非常的關心 非常關心尤其呢 在中部地區 我們的產業我們的手工具機 工具機 機械類別 零組件這一些呢 都是我們的幫手 非常的重要因為出口導向 所以都很緊張\n那在這樣的情況之下呢川普日前又說在未來的二到三週他會請他的財政部長跟商務部長會發函給各國也告訴大家到底內容是什麼所以本席首先要請教這個二到三週要發函的也包括我們台灣嗎我們會收到信嗎請做說明\n我們現在台灣跟美國在有關關稅談判是順利進行當中那我們也就是說至於說川普會不會去宣布哪個國家這不是我們能夠掌握的啦不過就是我們跟他的談判在第一批而且現在順利進行中是不是\n那這個指的是說沒有跟他啟動談判他要宣布薪水率還是包括已經在談判中那因為理論上在談判中就是所以現在沒有辦法確認我們在這二三週會不會收到信碼是這麼解讀嗎對 因為這是川普的決策我們無法代言我們繼續來討論\n我們要掌握這個脈動因為就是總統先生日前也受訪問的時候他有說談判的目的就是要避免大於10%的高關稅這個情況那我方呢\n我們要怎麼樣爭取對我們台灣最有利對我們國家最有利的所以請教部長我們的關稅會不會高過10%還有我們都非常好台美都非常好的這個情況之下我們台灣會有豁免的產品嗎你目前有這個方向跟訊息嗎\n因為賴總統他有在國際媒體上發表一個強化台美經澳路徑圖然後現在我們跟美方的談判也就相關的項目已經都有一個清單也有方案\n這個稅我們當然像對等關稅是越低越好至少不能高於我們對我們其真的國家因為你是外交部長都參與其中而且等於是在第一線所以再一次請教總統先生這麼說了會不會我們會低於還是高於這10%這是第一個議題第二個也就是我們的豁免產品據你所悉到目前為止我們有嗎\n我們希望說在半導體還有這些跟資通訊有關的能夠豁免因為這個我們供應鏈跟美國是半導體跟資通訊對 跟互補嘛因為我們這些產品跟它說實在是供應鏈的關係其實如果高關稅是兩敗俱傷甚至甚至它傷得更重我們當然是去說明那事實上他們也慢慢的了解我們像這個供應鏈互補的關係\n可是基於談判的策略最後的結果會如何現在是對等關稅在先跟電子業相關的這一些這個本來就沒有關稅的問題的時候現在再加上去但是這個是屬於232條款那現在先談的是對等關稅\n可是因為對冷關稅是把所有的貿易力他都賺進來那我們希望把那個也把它扣除掉其實台美的貿易利差就不大了好 這是我們非常的這個希望那麼也希望台灣的貨品產品成本你剛才所報告的那接下來請教南非打壓我國的住處處理的進度目前到底是如何因為在二月份要求我們簽署首都三月份的時候又更名那現在最近又要改為\n這個月安理事到目前為止我們我方我們交涉的進度到底是如何我們的解方究竟是什麼請做說明是南非想要求我們簽管或者是說要幫我們變更這些地位是從去年就開始我們也做很早的因應到目前為止聽到您說這個是小動作但是這個小動作我們要怎麼去因應呢\n我們有做好這個就是對策嘛就是說如果實質上因為這個是他片面行為我們不予承認因為根據台灣跟南非的這個1997年雙邊簽訂的協議啊他不能夠片面這樣子做我們法律意義訴訟我們也研究過\n實質的整個怎麼樣去反制我們也有方案那它現在基於什麼政治的考量片面做這個行為我們在交涉中而且表達嚴正的抗議那因為這個東西也引發了他們國內外的反彈\n除了美國以外政府跟國會包括他們自己的聯合政府裡面的政黨還有在野黨以及社會大眾包括輿論所以這個壓力其實也是回到他那邊去所以我們希望說還有緩衝的空間但一旦他真正實質傷害到我們比如說強迫要我們簽管或者是做了一些這是違反協議的事情的時候那我們也會有反制這些方案也都準備好\n部長您剛才談到的我們會有反制喔那麼我們也希望能夠確保他是我們不會遷出的這是我們努力的方向所以當然所以您剛才講了兩個重點第一個是他的片面的行為我們不予承認第二個我們的因應一定要小心應對方案也就是我們不能遷出你可以確保嗎對這是我們的目標也是目前的現況\n你是目前的現況,所以你一定要確保,是不是?是好,接下來本席要請教,因為09年召聚WHA但是我們台灣的醫療是非常非常的在國際間,對國際也很幫助我們台灣也真的是太棒了\n所以在這樣的一個情況之下WHA即將在5月19號到27號在瑞士日聯網要展開所以本席當然也主張我們台灣的醫療實力是享譽國際我們不該被排除所以我們外交部要怎麼樣的方案有效的來推動在我們這個方向能夠加入WHA 請做說明\n是 那我因為在這一次衛福部長率隊出去日瑞瓦參加WHA的大會之前我們有開雙部長的記者會那我們一方面當然就是由我國家聯名或近恰到邦交國跟非邦交國這些情形都是越來越多支持我們的力量另外可能到大會之後我們要申請加入會有辯論\n那目前我想還是按照往例進行按照往例進行 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