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00:02:13,834\n對,我們在這次的修法也把它放進去就是去加強動物檢查人員的一個父權的關係就是他在緊急的情況之下可以進到私領域去但是他不會任意的進去啦這個部分我想我們會可以確保這些寵物、動物的相關的一些權益動物的保護是非常重要的對,這個也涉及到台灣整體的形象啦如果常有一些虐待的一些情況的話這個對台灣的影響是不足的\n\n7\n00:02:16,676 --> 00:02:42,441\n那再來市主的一些良善的責任這個部分包括有時候常會遇到很多棄養啦甚至有時候這個部分怎麼樣來做更多的強化這次在修法裡面我們有納入喔特別是這些棄養過去在棄養的定義並不明確然後這次在修法裡面我們把棄養的定義做得很明確你必須經過到動物收容裡面去做登記以後才能去處理\n\n8\n00:02:43,681 --> 00:03:04,869\n不能隨意你如果沒有到動物的收容所去做登記去做一些認養的關係的時候那就視為棄養我也希望這一塊要把它更確立起來因為每一個你要飼養其實都是一個責任都是一個生命都是一個責任那你不能夠要的時候養但是不要說用整個這樣丟棄甚至於造成很多問題像\n\n9\n00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:31,686\n動輒路邊的一些流浪狗流浪貓甚至連綠烈蜥都是所以這個會造成很多的一些問題這應該要更加的去強化跟重視對施主的責任我想我們在這次種法法修法也變成一個重點好那另外其實很多的登記跟絕育的管理這也很重要既然就是你要飼養應該有更多的登記的機制讓大家知道到底在哪邊然後牠的整個狀況是怎樣這也是確保這些牠們的權益然後這些寵物這些動物們的權益\n\n10\n00:03:36,269 --> 00:04:02,506\n對謝謝委員因為關心這個寵物登記因為只有登記落實的時候才能夠去掌握這些犬隻的這些數量也才能夠根據這個去落實我們的事主責任所以這個部分是最基本要做的我想我們在這一次的修法裡面也會納進來然後我們現在已經在做了像貓的飼養貓的那個登記我們用強制的明年1月1號開始明年1月1號開始來強制登記\n\n11\n00:04:04,127 --> 00:04:16,039\n好那另外還有很多的是為繁殖買賣的啦齁這個甚至於很多是是非缺乏一些規範的這個恐怕未來也要持續啦那個齁不要讓這些\n\n12\n00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:45,908\n這個繁殖買賣甚至於非法的一些不斷的擴大因為這個都會影響到整個這個也是委員一直關心的這個的前提就是說我要落實我們的事主的分級的管理這個也是委員一直常說的你在分級管理的時候針對這些禁止飼養的或是必須特殊情況飼養的部分我們有規範的時候我們才能夠回頭要求我們的這些繁殖場做更有效的一個管理所以這個也會把它進數碼建立起來這個也會在裡面我覺得這個都\n\n13\n00:04:47,808 --> 00:05:03,987\n都是那個那再來我們也常看到很多啦齁一些社群平台有很多虐待動物的資訊的發布啦齁這個很傷害台灣的形象也很傷害整個這個部分有沒有什麼樣一些機制來做處理這個部分在現在目前的機制就可以在做了齁就是我們\n\n14\n00:05:05,989 --> 00:05:28,407\n隨時針對我們的這些網站的這些販賣動物的訊息或是有任何的有可能產生虐待動物的情況的之下我們都會去報案像前幾天我們針對有一些非法的我們也去報案我在上禮拜還是有在看到類似像這樣的影片在傳對好不好那但是你們去要求的時候他下架同時做開罰這個有做得到嗎\n\n15\n00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:59,278\n我想我們現在跟網路的經營業者有一個比較好的默契就是說所以一旦有這些的影片出來的時候你們要求他下架現在目前他們都大部分都能夠配合啦經過說明以後都能夠配合那如果適度必須要開罰的時候我想開罰也要開罰因為這個開罰才會涉及到相關的公學例的行使再來是寵物的食品安全也很重要啦它會影響到寵物的整個安全\n\n16\n00:06:00,339 --> 00:06:18,240\n那抱怨了嗎我上次跟在委員會報告就是我們會在五月底抱怨然後現在在內部已經審查完成了然後在這個禮拜四這個禮拜四經過我們的部裡面的主管匯報通過以後我們就送院了我們希望讓這些寵物他們的食品有更好的一些規範\n\n17\n00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:45,333\n也更安全的食品這個能夠把這件事情做得更好現在寵物很多人視為也形容像他們的家人一樣那你有更清楚的食品規範的時候才能夠讓他們是更健康更快樂的一個生活這個也是委員一直在關心的我們會從生產端然後料園這邊要確保它的料園的安全性對寵物是安全的還有包括它的販賣業者的管理都全部在寵物食品專章裡面去處理\n\n18\n00:06:46,494 --> 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那另外還有很多的是為繁殖買賣的啦齁這個甚至於很多是是非缺乏一些規範的這個恐怕未來也要持續啦那個齁不要讓這些\n258823\t285908\t這個繁殖買賣甚至於非法的一些不斷的擴大因為這個都會影響到整個這個也是委員一直關心的這個的前提就是說我要落實我們的事主的分級的管理這個也是委員一直常說的你在分級管理的時候針對這些禁止飼養的或是必須特殊情況飼養的部分我們有規範的時候我們才能夠回頭要求我們的這些繁殖場做更有效的一個管理所以這個也會把它進數碼建立起來這個也會在裡面我覺得這個都\n287808\t303987\t都是那個那再來我們也常看到很多啦齁一些社群平台有很多虐待動物的資訊的發布啦齁這個很傷害台灣的形象也很傷害整個這個部分有沒有什麼樣一些機制來做處理這個部分在現在目前的機制就可以在做了齁就是我們\n305989\t328407\t隨時針對我們的這些網站的這些販賣動物的訊息或是有任何的有可能產生虐待動物的情況的之下我們都會去報案像前幾天我們針對有一些非法的我們也去報案我在上禮拜還是有在看到類似像這樣的影片在傳對好不好那但是你們去要求的時候他下架同時做開罰這個有做得到嗎\n330680\t359278\t我想我們現在跟網路的經營業者有一個比較好的默契就是說所以一旦有這些的影片出來的時候你們要求他下架現在目前他們都大部分都能夠配合啦經過說明以後都能夠配合那如果適度必須要開罰的時候我想開罰也要開罰因為這個開罰才會涉及到相關的公學例的行使再來是寵物的食品安全也很重要啦它會影響到寵物的整個安全\n360339\t378240\t那抱怨了嗎我上次跟在委員會報告就是我們會在五月底抱怨然後現在在內部已經審查完成了然後在這個禮拜四這個禮拜四經過我們的部裡面的主管匯報通過以後我們就送院了我們希望讓這些寵物他們的食品有更好的一些規範\n379060\t405333\t也更安全的食品這個能夠把這件事情做得更好現在寵物很多人視為也形容像他們的家人一樣那你有更清楚的食品規範的時候才能夠讓他們是更健康更快樂的一個生活這個也是委員一直在關心的我們會從生產端然後料園這邊要確保它的料園的安全性對寵物是安全的還有包括它的販賣業者的管理都全部在寵物食品專章裡面去處理\n406494\t430325\t最後一個問一下現在網路上還是有在販售一些活體的動物跟寵物現在上很多一些網站還是買得到這個部分有要追究這些平台的責任嗎這個齁如果你在網路上販售這樣子的一個寵物的話你必須要有許可證你必須在網路上面要登記你的許可證字號如果沒有的話就是非法\n430825\t452259\t那非法的話第一個我們會要求下架第二個部分我們會針對它的一個網路的來源刊登的來源去做處罰部長現在還有啦我希望技術去要求下架同時今天技術來做開罰好不好唯有開罰才能夠嚇阻這樣的行為的發生在網路上面非法的販售活體的寵物是大家無法忍受的好謝謝部長辛苦了謝謝\n","txt":"那下一位請賴瑞榮委員質詢好謝謝召委請陳部長來請部長\n部長辛苦了那個預算解凍我沒有特別的問題啦那我想要關心一下這個包括動保法包括寵物的一些相關問題現在其實越來越多人其實都有養寵物啦毛小孩的部分那其實我認為其實我們對於這些要建立更完整的一些規範對於相關的那我想問一下部長支持嗎對於整個這個寵物業者整個評鑑管理機制要做更多的加強來納入到整個體制內\n對 我想謝謝委員的一個提醒就是其實寵物業的評鑑是一個非常重要的關鍵那可以去讓這個整個寵物業沒有 它層次不齊啦 對然後這個部分其實我們每一年都有評鑑但是我覺得那個強度跟那個標準其實可以定得更嚴謹讓我們的寵物產業能夠繼續往前提升所以部長同意朝這個方向嗎我們一定會做要多久時間可以來做一些強化的機制出來\n這個部分其實他並不涉修法這個評鑑的部分我想我們會立即我會後就會多久的時間多久\n一個月之內 我們新的一個評鑑的一個制度我希望不要劣幣足良幣 同時也能夠讓整個跟建立一個好像的形勢跟我也報告 是不是可以要六月底因為六月底我們針對那個飼養的有沒有 飼養的那個部分一起我們一起提出來 好 好 OK另外是大家也很提到了所謂的凍檢員的部分這個部長支持這樣的方向嗎\n對,我們在這次的修法也把它放進去就是去加強動物檢查人員的一個父權的關係就是他在緊急的情況之下可以進到私領域去但是他不會任意的進去啦這個部分我想我們會可以確保這些寵物、動物的相關的一些權益動物的保護是非常重要的對,這個也涉及到台灣整體的形象啦如果常有一些虐待的一些情況的話這個對台灣的影響是不足的\n那再來市主的一些良善的責任這個部分包括有時候常會遇到很多棄養啦甚至有時候這個部分怎麼樣來做更多的強化這次在修法裡面我們有納入喔特別是這些棄養過去在棄養的定義並不明確然後這次在修法裡面我們把棄養的定義做得很明確你必須經過到動物收容裡面去做登記以後才能去處理\n不能隨意你如果沒有到動物的收容所去做登記去做一些認養的關係的時候那就視為棄養我也希望這一塊要把它更確立起來因為每一個你要飼養其實都是一個責任都是一個生命都是一個責任那你不能夠要的時候養但是不要說用整個這樣丟棄甚至於造成很多問題像\n動輒路邊的一些 流浪狗 流浪貓甚至連綠烈蜥都是所以這個會造成很多的一些問題這應該要更加的去強化跟重視對 施主的責任我想我們在這次種法法修法也變成一個重點好 那另外其實很多的登記跟絕育的管理這也很重要既然就是你要飼養應該有更多的登記的機制讓大家知道到底在哪邊然後牠的整個狀況是怎樣這也是確保這些牠們的權益然後這些寵物這些動物們的權益\n對 謝謝委員因為關心這個寵物登記因為只有登記落實的時候才能夠去掌握這些犬隻的這些數量也才能夠根據這個去落實我們的事主責任所以這個部分是最基本要做的我想我們在這一次的修法裡面也會納進來然後我們現在已經在做了像貓的飼養貓的那個登記我們用強制的明年1月1號開始明年1月1號開始來強制登記\n好 那另外還有很多的是為繁殖買賣的啦齁這個甚至於很多是是非缺乏一些規範的這個恐怕未來也要持續啦那個齁不要讓這些\n這個繁殖買賣甚至於非法的一些不斷的擴大因為這個都會影響到整個這個也是委員一直關心的這個的前提就是說我要落實我們的事主的分級的管理這個也是委員一直常說的你在分級管理的時候針對這些禁止飼養的或是必須特殊情況飼養的部分我們有規範的時候我們才能夠回頭要求我們的這些繁殖場做更有效的一個管理所以這個也會把它進數碼建立起來這個也會在裡面我覺得這個都\n都是那個那再來我們也常看到很多啦齁一些社群平台有很多虐待動物的資訊的發布啦齁這個很傷害台灣的形象也很傷害整個這個部分有沒有什麼樣一些機制來做處理這個部分在現在目前的機制就可以在做了齁就是我們\n隨時針對我們的這些網站的這些販賣動物的訊息或是有任何的有可能產生虐待動物的情況的之下我們都會去報案像前幾天我們針對有一些非法的我們也去報案我在上禮拜還是有在看到類似像這樣的影片在傳對好不好那但是你們去要求的時候他下架同時做開罰這個有做得到嗎\n我想我們現在跟網路的經營業者有一個比較好的默契就是說所以一旦有這些的影片出來的時候你們要求他下架現在目前他們都大部分都能夠配合啦經過說明以後都能夠配合那如果適度必須要開罰的時候我想開罰也要開罰因為這個開罰才會涉及到相關的公學例的行使再來是寵物的食品安全也很重要啦它會影響到寵物的整個安全\n那抱怨了嗎我上次跟在委員會報告就是我們會在五月底抱怨然後現在在內部已經審查完成了然後在這個禮拜四這個禮拜四經過我們的部裡面的主管匯報通過以後我們就送院了我們希望讓這些寵物他們的食品有更好的一些規範\n也更安全的食品這個能夠把這件事情做得更好現在寵物很多人視為也形容像他們的家人一樣那你有更清楚的食品規範的時候才能夠讓他們是更健康更快樂的一個生活這個也是委員一直在關心的我們會從生產端然後料園這邊要確保它的料園的安全性對寵物是安全的還有包括它的販賣業者的管理都全部在寵物食品專章裡面去處理\n最後一個問一下現在網路上還是有在販售一些活體的動物跟寵物現在上很多一些網站還是買得到這個部分有要追究這些平台的責任嗎這個齁如果你在網路上販售這樣子的一個寵物的話你必須要有許可證你必須在網路上面要登記你的許可證字號如果沒有的話就是非法\n那非法的話第一個我們會要求下架第二個部分我們會針對它的一個網路的來源刊登的來源去做處罰部長現在還有啦我希望技術去要求下架同時今天技術來做開罰好不好唯有開罰才能夠嚇阻這樣的行為的發生在網路上面非法的販售活體的寵物是大家無法忍受的好謝謝部長辛苦了謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.205 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