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00:00:45,897\n部長那個我第一個問題請教你就是台日農業交流應該是農漁業交流是台日那這個我們4月28號我們住宿代表宿農業組正式成立對我們在其他住館這個住宿有沒有農業組的相關的這個編制在美國有在歐盟歐盟有對總共只有三個住宿館處最主要就是我們的外銷最主要跟農業多才民外銷有關的歐盟是派出一位然後\n\n3\n00:00:46,918 --> 00:00:54,888\n這個北美一位對不對兩位那歐盟一位歐盟也是兩位然後日本也是兩位\n\n4\n00:00:56,336 --> 00:01:23,171\n這個我覺得農業跟經濟一樣重要所以我們經濟組在主要管理處都有經濟組的同仁跟推廣或者協助農業的交流那我們現在對美國的關稅政策對農業當然有很多影響我們必須分散市場分散市場你要拓展我們出口市場所以出口多元化很重要那你東西也要考慮設立\n\n5\n00:01:25,341 --> 00:01:45,653\n我們東協目前在印尼的部分有派我們的農業部的同仁在那邊去做協助然後最主要的外銷都是由國際私形成相關的策略以後因為你有這個派出人員你會制定工作目標你針對工作實現情形你們做管轄\n\n6\n00:01:47,014 --> 00:02:11,106\n所以就像經濟組一樣不管是農業組同仁或經濟組同仁他也是歸經濟委員會來做監督考核所以我覺得這部分台日當然已經早就該成立了那你今天上個月成立那南韓跟台日的農業跟台韓的農業我覺得台日農業交流是比台農業交流好很多為什麼韓國南韓沒辦法做\n\n7\n00:02:13,973 --> 00:02:37,146\n南韓我應該在去年吧去年年底的時候我有去過一次南韓那邊的這些寵物的飼料本身還有一些相關的我們的漁產品也有相關的外銷所以我們要看它的貿易量到某個程度的時候是不是值得我農業產品南韓是第幾大的出口市場南韓應該第幾\n\n8\n00:02:39,484 --> 00:03:03,970\n應該是排行十以後的啦港換地緣經濟啊日本喜歡農漁產品出口第三大市場對不對那這個但是這樣還不夠是在我國日本對台這個進口的57%左右所以不只台日的這個農業交流有必要深化廣化\n\n9\n00:03:05,450 --> 00:03:10,778\n那另外台南之間我覺得也應該要加把勁你要擬定對策啊\n\n10\n00:03:12,386 --> 00:03:34,423\n這個部長謝謝委員我想我們會來啟動正式的一個評估啦包括我們未來可能要去銷到韓國的農產品然後用什麼樣的方式跟外館那邊有沒有什麼樣的方式去派駐人員因為這個人員大概都是從我們限職人員去調的是啦你要針對主要的國家韓國啦東協你說印尼你就應該在那邊設個農業組是我想人員不是問題專業不是問題但你有編制你就會有成果對\n\n11\n00:03:42,069 --> 00:03:58,762\n另外我針對高雄石斑魚對內出口我們組成一個拓銷小組鼓勵各位龍虎班可以消往日本那我希望以南部為主的東高雄、台南、屏東石斑魚的產區對日本的出口應該要擴大\n\n12\n00:04:02,145 --> 00:04:21,579\n所以通路很重要通路不合作日本主要的商社不管是以縣為主以區域為主應該要請我們諸位代表處的各個分處福岡福岡辦事處大阪甚至北海道雜荒應該要給他們相關的責任\n\n13\n00:04:24,901 --> 00:04:49,517\n去協助我們這個龍虎班、石班能夠在當地透過通路來打開我們的這個外銷我跟委員報告因為這次去年去的時候我特別針對那個石班類的部分他們評估就是在關東地區其實他的機會會比關西地區還多然後現在透過我們的西湖鐵道公司\n\n14\n00:04:50,277 --> 00:05:01,196\n為什麼關東現在是關係為主嘛飲食習慣最主要是飲食習慣對我們現在是嚮往關係嘛對那關東是更大的一個機會更能夠接受嘛對我們太太是說都沒差\n\n15\n00:05:03,635 --> 00:05:31,170\n日本人不管是關西都要吃酒半夜所以我想我們會有一整套的一個措施特別是針對剛才您講的通路是非常重要的然後現在我們在西鐵鐵道公司這些中餐的部分已經導入了署長很專業署長這個海洋事務專家我希望說半年之內有具體的成果你把這個量把這個量\n\n16\n00:05:32,751 --> 00:05:47,607\n能夠擴大量也放大然後點也能夠遍及到全日本是更委員更委員報告就是目前在十八年蘇日裡面價錢還是稍微有一點就是有點高那這一點\n\n17\n00:05:48,208 --> 00:06:08,162\n那署裡面跟在部長的指導之下我們其實現在對於輸往日本的部分這種外銷獎勵的部分我們現在都會持續來推動那剛剛委員提到說日本各縣的這些的商社我想我們也都會來努力是最後一個問題就是你們的農保虧損的狀況\n\n18\n00:06:10,343 --> 00:06:31,814\n農保啊我們這個有預算凍結是針對農保部分我希望農保這個未來改善有沒有具體的目標啊現在我們的虧損大概是1800多億那最主要是農保的保費有沒有保費是比較低嘛那你一年之內你要達到多少目標\n\n19\n00:06:32,754 --> 00:06:57,743\n我們每一年我把詳細的這邊可以請我們去年市長報告委員我們農保每年虧損大概50億上下那現在就是因為整個農保的人數越來越降低所以我這個虧損會縮短那之所以現在來了50億的這樣的一個水準是因為我們之前調高了農保的商帳幾戶\n\n20\n00:06:59,083 --> 00:07:16,385\n現在農保的支出最主要都是在上漲幾乎大概90到95%之間所以未來農保的人數下降之後這一部分的虧損會減少那我們也積極在做相關的查查的工作需要能夠讓農保制度健全\n\n21\n00:07:17,780 --> 00:07:37,905\n財政平衡很重要對農民的照顧也很重要所以這兩個目標都要兼顧另外這個農業保險你們覆蓋率我了解目前大概53點多對農業保險你們有沒有具體的目標比如說我覺得多少目標是合理的是你們預期達成的\n\n22\n00:07:40,306 --> 00:08:08,452\n我跟委員報告我之前跟我們的農經署在討論過去充量不看品質那每一張保單可能有人保但是保的不多我現在希望說回過頭來去檢討我們的保單的品質希望每一張保單有很多人保這樣的話保險的理賠也不會那麼高險種很重要對然後對重要的農產品這個很重要對所以農業受極端氣候影響的\n\n23\n00:08:09,452 --> 00:08:30,064\n受這個市場調節影響所以風險比較高的這些農業產品我覺得這個覆蓋率一定要最高對這個覆蓋率最高就是每一張保單大部分的品項都已經納入了天然摘有關的但是現在就是每一張保單它就保單人數這不簡單這幾年之內農業保險覆蓋率可以提升到五成以上這個也算不簡單\n\n24\n00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:39,140\n那我希望說針對主要的這個重要的農運產品它的覆蓋率應該會更高啦好會我們會來努力好謝謝謝謝部長謝謝各位同仁謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6820\t11645\t好 谢谢主席 我请是不是请陈部长陈部长\n16761\t45897\t部長 那個 我第一個問題請教你就是台日農業交流 應該是農漁業交流是台日 那這個我們4月28號我們住宿代表宿農業組正式成立對我們在其他住館這個住宿有沒有農業組的相關的這個編制在美國有在歐盟 歐盟有對 總共只有三個住宿館處最主要就是我們的外銷最主要跟農業多才民外銷有關的歐盟是派出一位 然後\n46918\t54888\t這個北美一位對不對兩位那歐盟一位歐盟也是兩位然後日本也是兩位\n56336\t83171\t這個我覺得農業跟經濟一樣重要所以我們經濟組在主要管理處都有經濟組的同仁跟推廣或者協助農業的交流那我們現在對美國的關稅政策對農業當然有很多影響我們必須分散市場分散市場你要拓展我們出口市場所以出口多元化很重要那你東西也要考慮設立\n85341\t105653\t我們東協目前在印尼的部分有派我們的農業部的同仁在那邊去做協助然後最主要的外銷都是由國際私形成相關的策略以後因為你有這個派出人員你會制定工作目標你針對工作實現情形你們做管轄\n107014\t131106\t所以就像經濟組一樣不管是農業組同仁或經濟組同仁他也是歸經濟委員會來做監督考核所以我覺得這部分台日當然已經早就該成立了那你今天上個月成立那南韓跟台日的農業跟台韓的農業我覺得台日農業交流是比台農業交流好很多為什麼韓國南韓沒辦法做\n133973\t157146\t南韓我應該在去年吧去年年底的時候我有去過一次南韓那邊的這些寵物的飼料本身還有一些相關的我們的漁產品也有相關的外銷所以我們要看它的貿易量到某個程度的時候是不是值得我農業產品南韓是第幾大的出口市場南韓應該第幾\n159484\t183970\t應該是排行十以後的啦港換地緣經濟啊日本喜歡農漁產品出口第三大市場對不對那這個但是這樣還不夠是在我國日本對台這個進口的57%左右所以不只台日的這個農業交流有必要深化廣化\n185450\t190778\t那另外 台南之間 我覺得也應該要加把勁你要擬定對策啊\n192386\t214423\t這個部長謝謝委員我想我們會來啟動正式的一個評估啦包括我們未來可能要去銷到韓國的農產品然後用什麼樣的方式跟外館那邊有沒有什麼樣的方式去派駐人員因為這個人員大概都是從我們限職人員去調的是啦你要針對主要的國家韓國啦東協你說印尼你就應該在那邊設個農業組是我想人員不是問題專業不是問題但你有編制你就會有成果對\n222069\t238762\t另外我針對高雄石斑魚對內出口我們組成一個拓銷小組鼓勵各位龍虎班可以消往日本那我希望以南部為主的東高雄、台南、屏東石斑魚的產區對日本的出口應該要擴大\n242145\t261579\t所以通路很重要 通路不合作 日本主要的商社不管是以縣為主 以區域為主 應該要請我們諸位代表處的各個分處福岡 福岡辦事處 大阪 甚至北海道 雜荒 應該要給他們相關的責任\n264901\t289517\t去協助我們這個龍虎班、石班能夠在當地透過通路來打開我們的這個外銷我跟委員報告因為這次去年去的時候我特別針對那個石班類的部分他們評估就是在關東地區其實他的機會會比關西地區還多然後現在透過我們的西湖鐵道公司\n290277\t301196\t為什麼關東現在是關係為主嘛飲食習慣最主要是飲食習慣對 我們現在是嚮往關係嘛對 那關東是更大的一個機會更能夠接受嘛對我們太太是說都沒差\n303635\t331170\t日本人不管是關西 都要吃酒半夜所以我想我們會有一整套的一個措施特別是針對剛才您講的通路是非常重要的然後現在我們在西鐵鐵道公司這些中餐的部分 已經導入了署長很專業 署長這個海洋事務專家我希望說半年之內有具體的成果你把這個量 把這個量\n332751\t347607\t能夠擴大量也放大然後點也能夠遍及到全日本是 更委員更委員報告就是目前在十八年蘇日裡面價錢還是稍微有一點就是有點高那這一點\n348208\t368162\t那署裡面跟在部長的指導之下我們其實現在對於輸往日本的部分這種外銷獎勵的部分我們現在都會持續來推動那剛剛委員提到說日本各縣的這些的商社我想我們也都會來努力是最後一個問題就是你們的農保虧損的狀況\n370343\t391814\t農保啊我們這個有預算凍結是針對農保部分我希望農保這個未來改善有沒有具體的目標啊現在我們的虧損大概是1800多億那最主要是農保的保費有沒有保費是比較低嘛那你一年之內你要達到多少目標\n392754\t417743\t我們每一年 我把詳細的這邊可以請我們去年市長報告委員 我們農保每年虧損大概50億上下那現在就是因為整個農保的人數越來越降低所以我這個虧損會縮短那之所以現在來了50億的這樣的一個水準是因為我們之前調高了農保的商帳幾戶\n419083\t436385\t現在農保的支出最主要都是在上漲幾乎大概90到95%之間所以未來農保的人數下降之後這一部分的虧損會減少那我們也積極在做相關的查查的工作需要能夠讓農保制度健全\n437780\t457905\t財政平衡很重要 對農民的照顧也很重要所以這兩個目標都要兼顧另外這個農業保險你們覆蓋率我了解目前大概53點多對 農業保險你們有沒有具體的目標比如說 我覺得多少目標是合理的是你們預期達成的\n460306\t488452\t我跟委員報告我之前跟我們的農經署在討論過去充量不看品質那每一張保單可能有人保但是保的不多我現在希望說回過頭來去檢討我們的保單的品質希望每一張保單有很多人保這樣的話保險的理賠也不會那麼高險種很重要對然後對重要的農產品這個很重要對所以農業受極端氣候影響的\n489452\t510064\t受這個市場調節影響所以風險比較高的這些農業產品我覺得這個覆蓋率一定要最高對 這個覆蓋率最高就是每一張保單大部分的品項都已經納入了天然摘有關的但是現在就是每一張保單它就保單人數這不簡單這幾年之內農業保險覆蓋率可以提升到五成以上這個也算不簡單\n511044\t519140\t那我希望說針對主要的這個重要的農運產品它的覆蓋率應該會更高啦好會 我們會來努力好 謝謝謝謝部長 謝謝各位同仁 謝謝\n","txt":"好 谢谢主席 我请是不是请陈部长陈部长\n部長 那個 我第一個問題請教你就是台日農業交流 應該是農漁業交流是台日 那這個我們4月28號我們住宿代表宿農業組正式成立對我們在其他住館這個住宿有沒有農業組的相關的這個編制在美國有在歐盟 歐盟有對 總共只有三個住宿館處最主要就是我們的外銷最主要跟農業多才民外銷有關的歐盟是派出一位 然後\n這個北美一位對不對兩位那歐盟一位歐盟也是兩位然後日本也是兩位\n這個我覺得農業跟經濟一樣重要所以我們經濟組在主要管理處都有經濟組的同仁跟推廣或者協助農業的交流那我們現在對美國的關稅政策對農業當然有很多影響我們必須分散市場分散市場你要拓展我們出口市場所以出口多元化很重要那你東西也要考慮設立\n我們東協目前在印尼的部分有派我們的農業部的同仁在那邊去做協助然後最主要的外銷都是由國際私形成相關的策略以後因為你有這個派出人員你會制定工作目標你針對工作實現情形你們做管轄\n所以就像經濟組一樣不管是農業組同仁或經濟組同仁他也是歸經濟委員會來做監督考核所以我覺得這部分台日當然已經早就該成立了那你今天上個月成立那南韓跟台日的農業跟台韓的農業我覺得台日農業交流是比台農業交流好很多為什麼韓國南韓沒辦法做\n南韓我應該在去年吧去年年底的時候我有去過一次南韓那邊的這些寵物的飼料本身還有一些相關的我們的漁產品也有相關的外銷所以我們要看它的貿易量到某個程度的時候是不是值得我農業產品南韓是第幾大的出口市場南韓應該第幾\n應該是排行十以後的啦港換地緣經濟啊日本喜歡農漁產品出口第三大市場對不對那這個但是這樣還不夠是在我國日本對台這個進口的57%左右所以不只台日的這個農業交流有必要深化廣化\n那另外 台南之間 我覺得也應該要加把勁你要擬定對策啊\n這個部長謝謝委員我想我們會來啟動正式的一個評估啦包括我們未來可能要去銷到韓國的農產品然後用什麼樣的方式跟外館那邊有沒有什麼樣的方式去派駐人員因為這個人員大概都是從我們限職人員去調的是啦你要針對主要的國家韓國啦東協你說印尼你就應該在那邊設個農業組是我想人員不是問題專業不是問題但你有編制你就會有成果對\n另外我針對高雄石斑魚對內出口我們組成一個拓銷小組鼓勵各位龍虎班可以消往日本那我希望以南部為主的東高雄、台南、屏東石斑魚的產區對日本的出口應該要擴大\n所以通路很重要 通路不合作 日本主要的商社不管是以縣為主 以區域為主 應該要請我們諸位代表處的各個分處福岡 福岡辦事處 大阪 甚至北海道 雜荒 應該要給他們相關的責任\n去協助我們這個龍虎班、石班能夠在當地透過通路來打開我們的這個外銷我跟委員報告因為這次去年去的時候我特別針對那個石班類的部分他們評估就是在關東地區其實他的機會會比關西地區還多然後現在透過我們的西湖鐵道公司\n為什麼關東現在是關係為主嘛飲食習慣最主要是飲食習慣對 我們現在是嚮往關係嘛對 那關東是更大的一個機會更能夠接受嘛對我們太太是說都沒差\n日本人不管是關西 都要吃酒半夜所以我想我們會有一整套的一個措施特別是針對剛才您講的通路是非常重要的然後現在我們在西鐵鐵道公司這些中餐的部分 已經導入了署長很專業 署長這個海洋事務專家我希望說半年之內有具體的成果你把這個量 把這個量\n能夠擴大量也放大然後點也能夠遍及到全日本是 更委員更委員報告就是目前在十八年蘇日裡面價錢還是稍微有一點就是有點高那這一點\n那署裡面跟在部長的指導之下我們其實現在對於輸往日本的部分這種外銷獎勵的部分我們現在都會持續來推動那剛剛委員提到說日本各縣的這些的商社我想我們也都會來努力是最後一個問題就是你們的農保虧損的狀況\n農保啊我們這個有預算凍結是針對農保部分我希望農保這個未來改善有沒有具體的目標啊現在我們的虧損大概是1800多億那最主要是農保的保費有沒有保費是比較低嘛那你一年之內你要達到多少目標\n我們每一年 我把詳細的這邊可以請我們去年市長報告委員 我們農保每年虧損大概50億上下那現在就是因為整個農保的人數越來越降低所以我這個虧損會縮短那之所以現在來了50億的這樣的一個水準是因為我們之前調高了農保的商帳幾戶\n現在農保的支出最主要都是在上漲幾乎大概90到95%之間所以未來農保的人數下降之後這一部分的虧損會減少那我們也積極在做相關的查查的工作需要能夠讓農保制度健全\n財政平衡很重要 對農民的照顧也很重要所以這兩個目標都要兼顧另外這個農業保險你們覆蓋率我了解目前大概53點多對 農業保險你們有沒有具體的目標比如說 我覺得多少目標是合理的是你們預期達成的\n我跟委員報告我之前跟我們的農經署在討論過去充量不看品質那每一張保單可能有人保但是保的不多我現在希望說回過頭來去檢討我們的保單的品質希望每一張保單有很多人保這樣的話保險的理賠也不會那麼高險種很重要對然後對重要的農產品這個很重要對所以農業受極端氣候影響的\n受這個市場調節影響所以風險比較高的這些農業產品我覺得這個覆蓋率一定要最高對 這個覆蓋率最高就是每一張保單大部分的品項都已經納入了天然摘有關的但是現在就是每一張保單它就保單人數這不簡單這幾年之內農業保險覆蓋率可以提升到五成以上這個也算不簡單\n那我希望說針對主要的這個重要的農運產品它的覆蓋率應該會更高啦好會 我們會來努力好 謝謝謝謝部長 謝謝各位同仁 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.820 --> 00:11.645\n好谢谢主席我请是不是请陈部长陈部长\n\n00:16.761 --> 00:45.897\n部長那個我第一個問題請教你就是台日農業交流應該是農漁業交流是台日那這個我們4月28號我們住宿代表宿農業組正式成立對我們在其他住館這個住宿有沒有農業組的相關的這個編制在美國有在歐盟歐盟有對總共只有三個住宿館處最主要就是我們的外銷最主要跟農業多才民外銷有關的歐盟是派出一位然後\n\n00:46.918 --> 00:54.888\n這個北美一位對不對兩位那歐盟一位歐盟也是兩位然後日本也是兩位\n\n00:56.336 --> 01:23.171\n這個我覺得農業跟經濟一樣重要所以我們經濟組在主要管理處都有經濟組的同仁跟推廣或者協助農業的交流那我們現在對美國的關稅政策對農業當然有很多影響我們必須分散市場分散市場你要拓展我們出口市場所以出口多元化很重要那你東西也要考慮設立\n\n01:25.341 --> 01:45.653\n我們東協目前在印尼的部分有派我們的農業部的同仁在那邊去做協助然後最主要的外銷都是由國際私形成相關的策略以後因為你有這個派出人員你會制定工作目標你針對工作實現情形你們做管轄\n\n01:47.014 --> 02:11.106\n所以就像經濟組一樣不管是農業組同仁或經濟組同仁他也是歸經濟委員會來做監督考核所以我覺得這部分台日當然已經早就該成立了那你今天上個月成立那南韓跟台日的農業跟台韓的農業我覺得台日農業交流是比台農業交流好很多為什麼韓國南韓沒辦法做\n\n02:13.973 --> 02:37.146\n南韓我應該在去年吧去年年底的時候我有去過一次南韓那邊的這些寵物的飼料本身還有一些相關的我們的漁產品也有相關的外銷所以我們要看它的貿易量到某個程度的時候是不是值得我農業產品南韓是第幾大的出口市場南韓應該第幾\n\n02:39.484 --> 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