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00:00:34,294\n委員好部長早安我們看到在前天就是禮拜一的下午就是在三峽北大國小前面有一輛車子就是疑似暴衝所以造成了三人死亡然後12人重傷的這樣子的一個重大車禍事故那這個車禍事故傳出之後當然舉國嘩然因為看到兩個年輕的這個就是小學生這樣子一個年輕的生命就這樣消逝真的是讓人非常的不捨跟難過\n\n3\n00:00:45,842 --> 00:00:50,323\n那因為這一個肇事者就是一個78歲的一個駕駛所以也讓大家對於這個高齡駕駛就是有一些關注那確實我們也看到就是有關這個道安的一個統計就是在這個高齡的發生車禍事故的一個數據確實是增加的\n\n4\n00:01:08,408 --> 00:01:23,038\n因為我記得在三次委員會報告的時候部長有特別報告說目前的交通事故是下降的整體來說是下降的對整體數字是下降的可是以分別的統計數字來看高齡者發生車禍事故\n\n5\n00:01:26,977 --> 00:01:51,527\n造成死傷的卻是增加的那所以當然這個也就是讓我們對高齡者的交通安全包括駕駛就是有特別的一個關注跟檢討那我們也看到部長昨天傍晚也特地召開記者會針對高齡駕駛有一些精進的一些方案是不是請部長再簡單說一下好了報告委員確實我們對於整體的駕照管理\n\n6\n00:01:54,208 --> 00:02:18,382\n我們都要做一個精進的這個努力那其實社會現在比較關注的是高齡駕駛的部分就像委員剛剛所提到的那這個部分我們會在三個月之內會提出更細緻的方案但初步來說我們會比較學習跟參考日本的經驗因為日本比台灣更早邁入超高齡社會他們的高齡駕駛的問題其實也是相當受到社會的關注\n\n7\n00:02:19,082 --> 00:02:43,833\n那這個部分第一我們把年齡降到70歲換照的年齡降到70歲這是第一點那第二點我們加強他的測驗的項目包含認知的測驗那是過去就有做那我們現在要加強這個講習教育講習的部分至少要半天那另外危險感知也是我們未來會加進來的還有就是說年長者他的四肢的靈活度的這個測試這也是未來我們會加強的\n\n8\n00:02:46,474 --> 00:03:12,356\n那另外其實您跟我都來自中部我們有時候我們的地方比較鄉下老年人如果有需要公共運輸的時候他如果願意繳回他的駕照不要再駕駛如果他年紀比較大不適合駕駛繳回他的駕照的話我們針對這個TPAS公共運輸的補助我們也會做那我們來自於比較鄉下的地方有些地方需要幸福小房幸福巴士這個我們也會加強來\n\n9\n00:03:13,817 --> 00:03:25,960\n公共運輸當然就是都必須配套因為畢竟對比較偏向的地方這個對高齡者他們如果還是有駕駛能力的話他們還是有這個需求我們看到各國其實對高齡駕駛他們都是一樣有一樣這個比較嚴格的一些管理的一個辦法那我們就是說針對在三峽發生這個車禍事故事後有網友挖出說這一個\n\n10\n00:03:41,883 --> 00:03:53,712\n肇事者其實他有劣跡斑斑也有前科就是說他之前就有不良的肇事紀錄就是駕車衝撞上人行道撞傷婦女跟嬰兒車\n\n11\n00:03:57,515 --> 00:04:18,467\n所以就是針對這種有違規紀錄的中大違規紀錄的我覺得說這個應該就是說在換照的時候應該要特別的嚴格因為我們看目前的辦法好像我們我國好像沒有針對這部分有特別的要求那日本這部分他就有就是說有照試紀錄的就是要在特別經過駕駛能力的一個測驗這個我們未來也會加進來\n\n12\n00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:36,210\n對我覺得這一項就非常的好所以這個也是值得我們學習的一個地方那另外就是說因為這件事高齡駕駛那因為在昨天又發生了一件台南的這個獄警也是一個爆衝的一個車禍事故\n\n13\n00:04:37,492 --> 00:05:00,553\n所以也是讓我們覺得說好像感覺在路上真的是危機重重沒有什麼安全感所以我覺得這部分也是值得我們要去全面的檢討就是說除了高齡駕駛之外對於這個駕駛的一些監理因為其實之前我有關心過這個要價的一個部分就是\n\n14\n00:05:01,574 --> 00:05:25,366\n服藥之後就是說有一些疾病或者是說因為感冒就是吃了藥之後可能對一些反應能力會比較緩慢這部分是不是未來我們也要去加強可是這部分應該是要跟衛福部去配合吧就是說對於就是生病剛好有服用某些藥物的時候是不是他在藥袋上要特別去強調說不宜駕駛\n\n15\n00:05:27,887 --> 00:05:45,003\n因為我覺得說其實這些車禍事故我們還是要再回歸到四一的觀念就是教育監理還有工程設計還有這個就是執法這個都是要全面去配套的就是\n\n16\n00:05:45,923 --> 00:05:49,645\n因為不能只單一個問題就是去解決那個問題我覺得這也沒辦法全面解決所以可能就是要去全面檢討所以就是說就這兩三天的這些車禍事故除了就是說這個監理就是高齡駕駛的這個\n\n17\n00:06:02,012 --> 00:06:13,222\n在更精進之外那像昨天的這個爆衝事件有可能它是不是因為有這個慢性病的問題那這個也就是涉及到另外一個用藥的一個問題那還有就是說在這個車輛的設備上因為像日本好像他們針對高齡者有就是補助他們去裝置反爆衝的一個裝置\n\n18\n00:06:27,574 --> 00:06:41,110\n可是我覺得這個裝置也不一定限於高齡駕駛因為是不是這部分也可以去普及說落實到這個所有的車輛就像剛剛我們李昆哲委員有提到的這個ADS的這種\n\n19\n00:06:42,507 --> 00:07:10,951\n輔助駕駛的這個部分不曉得部長的看法是如何其實ADAS的系統我們在112年之後應該新車的部分我們跟歐盟是一樣的同步的一個規定也就是說新車其實現在都有那現在大家比較關注的其實是開舊車的年長者他們的部分有沒有辦法去加增這個我們來研議看看因為每一國的處理的方式不太一樣我們參考別國的模式然後我們自己來想辦法來看要怎麼加強\n\n20\n00:07:12,271 --> 00:07:36,481\n對像這種車輛設備的一個加強就是可以不限任何類型的駕駛人可以讓這個車輛駕駛更安全現在新車都有對那個工程的部分的話可能就是說針對校園附近的工程道路設計是不是要再去加強再落實我想這個都是值得我們再去深思檢討的部分是好謝謝部長謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5214\t6418\t謝謝主席 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