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00:00:16,626\n好謝謝主席蔡總委員先進列席總統官員會長工作夥伴媒體記者林志先生有請我們陳部長跟預言所的林所長請陳部長公務局局長剛陳所長也請準備好\n\n2\n00:00:23,811 --> 00:00:41,966\n部長好還有所長好來今天的問題大家都問過很多了我就很快的迅速的來進行一下來下一張這是昨天事故的現場那我們把它回顧到原來淨空的畫面這就是事故現場的道路部長看起來有沒有任何的道路安全的防護措施您覺得有嗎\n\n3\n00:00:43,039 --> 00:01:11,087\n報告委員他這個看起來是會有行人專用實相的措施然後返馬線上面也有特殊的這個顏色特別的顏色但是對不起應對昨天的那種事故狀況這樣的一些措施只是行人被注意到但是對於車輛的速度或者暴衝的情況他有沒有防護的效果包括看到這些都是顯示的嘛這些緩衝感也是顯示的嘛好我們來看一下這是日本學校周邊的道路規劃\n\n4\n00:01:12,347 --> 00:01:36,436\n部長或者是你們的局長有看過這樣的規劃嗎譬如說他們除了路面的塗裝之外他們除了一個進來的停車彎之外他們事實上在十字路口做了一些減速的設施然後他也把道路刻意的窄化讓車流速度降緩請問部長或者局長您認為這樣有幫助於道路學校周邊道路的安全防護嗎\n\n5\n00:01:37,316 --> 00:01:59,789\n跟委員報告一下我們確實在運營所所這一個訂定的這一個校園桌邊行人安全感染指引我們是有參考日本韓國就包括委員剛才這邊所秀出來的這些優良的一些值得借鏡的作法我們都有放在這個參考指引裡面參考指引部長也就是說這個需要我們儘速加快去推動可以嗎\n\n6\n00:02:01,009 --> 00:02:23,046\n好的做我們趕快去做這個部分我們其實都有指引出來那國土署內政部國土署其實他們主要有負責這個業務啦所以我也會去要求內政部國土署我們兩個部會配合好不好好我們努力的把它改善來下一頁好剛剛也很多委員問到了高齡換照不考駕駛能力我們換照不管什麼原因換照是不是考這三個認知能力\n\n7\n00:02:25,004 --> 00:02:53,131\n認知能力是用這三個題目好那只有這三個嗎局長您目前的換照的措施有包含哪些目前就是說高齡換照包括體檢還有認知功能測驗那認知功能測驗裡面有三個程序對那就是第一個就是時間空間第二個就是記憶力第三個就是這個協調好很好來部長其實我們看日本怎麼做其實剛剛聽起來的不免家裡有長輩的可能會覺得好像\n\n8\n00:02:54,387 --> 00:03:19,038\n這個也是巴士量表其中的類似的做法但是我們看一下在日本他有分成兩個年齡層那如果你是叫年輕的你會有一個培訓課程然後就直接換發駕照通過後就換發駕照但是如果較高的年齡的他會有個認知測試這個認知測試就跟剛剛講的一樣但是重點是什麼不是測試完了就沒有了他有什麼培訓課程包括\n\n9\n00:03:20,059 --> 00:03:23,789\n說明駕駛的實際能力的車輛測試目前我們有做到這個嗎\n\n10\n00:03:25,885 --> 00:03:53,136\n局長有沒有跟我們講培訓大概就是跟我們現在的這個一般的授訓講習會比較那是指考照前那換照的過程會換照目前還沒有對部長這就是原因所在我當然知道交通部很極致的回應社會的一些感覺但是呢好像你們只是把它停留在原來較高齡的認知測試的年齡往下調我們新的方案裡面其實都有加入講習\n\n11\n00:03:53,976 --> 00:04:11,156\n有加入了新的方案有加入了那趕快跟社會宣布有宣布了至少半天的講習那有包括實際的車輛測試這個如果是肇事的紀錄有肇事紀錄的年長者他們就會加入實地的訓練很好所以這個要宣布讓大家知道再往下看\n\n12\n00:04:11,653 --> 00:04:29,080\n那其實剛剛也有委員問到的用藥的問題啦我們知道喝酒酒後不能開車有沒有聽過吃藥後不能開車的我不是講毒藥喔這個當然有影響我們也知道隨著年齡的增加我們可能長者會有經常要用藥的需求\n\n13\n00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:56,380\n那不同的藥物會產生不同的影響力所以呢有人都說包括降血壓啦止痛啦都有可能會妨礙你本來是可以正常駕駛的可能會造成你的能力的下降有沒有這個可能性有可能好那所以說呢我們未來希望你們的精進的換照的制度除了包括認知除了包括實際操控能力是不是也要增加一個包括可能的一些建議用藥指引的建議剛剛有委員問到可以嗎\n\n14\n00:04:57,247 --> 00:05:01,036\n我們跨部會的溝通我們會來啟動那就請衛務部進來協助我們最後的結論很簡單的說另外一個就是強車險\n\n15\n00:05:06,855 --> 00:05:31,317\n強車險目前是監管會那邊配合在推動那麼交通部過去對一些有造成風險可能的強車險的目的不是是幫助受害者去填補風險但是以昨天的例子萬一啦萬一我是開車的家長我的車有保強車險一定有嘛我的在者小孩在車內我被撞了我受傷有賠\n\n16\n00:05:32,695 --> 00:05:58,644\n我的強車險有包含我但是不包含乘客險這個部長知道嗎是這是我的小孩受傷了我車的強車險因為我沒有肇事責任所以在無肇事責任的情況之下我的強車險只保障駕駛本人不保障乘客您覺得這樣的保障夠不夠萬一類似的情況有造成肇事的車輛衝擊其他無肇事責任的車輛造成裡面的駕駛跟乘客受傷卻沒有得到強車險的保障您覺得這個需不需要補強\n\n17\n00:05:59,448 --> 00:06:24,210\n包委員我們針對大車的部分有啦小客車運輸業有運輸那是因為他職業運輸嘛那如果是自小客的部分自小客的部分他應該可以自己加保好您說的這是一個部分最後的結論所以說其實目前上一頁上一頁我們說其實大部分的被保險人大部分的車主他買他說有強車險的時候他以為我只要有受傷我就可以賠我的乘客也可以賠錯\n\n18\n00:06:25,191 --> 00:06:42,959\n如果你是被撞你沒有造成責任車上的乘客是不賠的這個部分呢委員會要求金管會趕快的去補強那也希望未來交通部在相關的對駕駛人的指引上告知他這一點他在投保的時候他如果覺得保障不足要自己額外加保或者請保險局去研發讓保險公司有新的保單來保障你同意嗎\n\n19\n00:06:43,799 --> 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謝謝主席蔡總委員先進列席總統官員會長工作夥伴媒體記者林志先生有請我們陳部長跟預言所的林所長請陳部長公務局局長剛陳所長也請準備好\n部長好還有所長好來今天的問題大家都問過很多了我就很快的迅速的來進行一下來下一張這是昨天事故的現場那我們把它回顧到原來淨空的畫面這就是事故現場的道路部長看起來有沒有任何的道路安全的防護措施您覺得有嗎\n報告委員他這個看起來是會有行人專用實相的措施然後返馬線上面也有特殊的這個顏色特別的顏色但是對不起應對昨天的那種事故狀況這樣的一些措施只是行人被注意到但是對於車輛的速度或者暴衝的情況他有沒有防護的效果包括看到這些都是顯示的嘛這些緩衝感也是顯示的嘛好我們來看一下這是日本學校周邊的道路規劃\n部長或者是你們的局長有看過這樣的規劃嗎譬如說他們除了路面的塗裝之外他們除了一個進來的停車彎之外他們事實上在十字路口做了一些減速的設施然後他也把道路刻意的窄化讓車流速度降緩請問部長或者局長您認為這樣有幫助於道路學校周邊道路的安全防護嗎\n跟委員報告一下我們確實在運營所所這一個訂定的這一個校園桌邊行人安全感染指引我們是有參考日本韓國就包括委員剛才這邊所秀出來的這些優良的一些值得借鏡的作法我們都有放在這個參考指引裡面參考指引部長也就是說這個需要我們儘速加快去推動可以嗎\n好的做我們趕快去做這個部分我們其實都有指引出來那國土署內政部國土署其實他們主要有負責這個業務啦所以我也會去要求內政部國土署我們兩個部會配合好不好好我們努力的把它改善來下一頁好剛剛也很多委員問到了高齡換照不考駕駛能力我們換照不管什麼原因換照是不是考這三個認知能力\n認知能力是用這三個題目好那只有這三個嗎局長您目前的換照的措施有包含哪些目前就是說高齡換照包括體檢還有認知功能測驗那認知功能測驗裡面有三個程序對那就是第一個就是時間空間第二個就是記憶力第三個就是這個協調好很好來部長其實我們看日本怎麼做其實剛剛聽起來的不免家裡有長輩的可能會覺得好像\n這個也是巴士量表其中的類似的做法但是我們看一下在日本他有分成兩個年齡層那如果你是叫年輕的你會有一個培訓課程然後就直接換發駕照通過後就換發駕照但是如果較高的年齡的他會有個認知測試這個認知測試就跟剛剛講的一樣但是重點是什麼不是測試完了就沒有了他有什麼培訓課程包括\n說明駕駛的實際能力的車輛測試目前我們有做到這個嗎\n局長有沒有跟我們講培訓大概就是跟我們現在的這個一般的授訓講習會比較那是指考照前那換照的過程會換照目前還沒有對部長這就是原因所在我當然知道交通部很極致的回應社會的一些感覺但是呢好像你們只是把它停留在原來較高齡的認知測試的年齡往下調我們新的方案裡面其實都有加入講習\n有加入了 新的方案有加入了那趕快跟社會宣布有宣布了 至少半天的講習那有包括實際的車輛測試這個如果是肇事的紀錄 有肇事紀錄的年長者他們就會加入實地的訓練很好 所以這個要宣布 讓大家知道再往下看\n那其實剛剛也有委員問到的用藥的問題啦我們知道喝酒 酒後不能開車有沒有聽過吃藥後不能開車的我不是講毒藥喔這個當然有影響我們也知道隨著年齡的增加我們可能長者會有經常要用藥的需求\n那不同的藥物會產生不同的影響力所以呢有人都說包括降血壓啦止痛啦都有可能會妨礙你本來是可以正常駕駛的可能會造成你的能力的下降有沒有這個可能性有可能好那所以說呢我們未來希望你們的精進的換照的制度除了包括認知除了包括實際操控能力是不是也要增加一個包括可能的一些建議用藥指引的建議剛剛有委員問到可以嗎\n我們跨部會的溝通我們會來啟動那就請衛務部進來協助我們最後的結論很簡單的說另外一個就是強車險\n強車險目前是監管會那邊配合在推動那麼交通部過去對一些有造成風險可能的強車險的目的不是是幫助受害者去填補風險但是以昨天的例子萬一啦萬一我是開車的家長我的車有保強車險 一定有嘛我的在者小孩在車內 我被撞了我受傷 有賠\n我的強車險有包含我 但是不包含乘客險這個部長知道嗎 是這是我的小孩受傷了 我車的強車險因為我沒有肇事責任所以在無肇事責任的情況之下我的強車險只保障駕駛本人 不保障乘客您覺得這樣的保障夠不夠萬一類似的情況有造成肇事的車輛衝擊其他無肇事責任的車輛造成裡面的駕駛跟乘客受傷卻沒有得到強車險的保障 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