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00:01:45,071\n兩年也是往這方向走嗎可以分級距啦年齡的級距啦例如說70歲到75歲是一個級距那75歲以上可能到80歲是一個級距我們用年齡的級距來來討論它的頻率這個我們會來討論這規劃不錯\n\n6\n00:01:55,119 --> 00:02:21,104\n就是反正至少本來的三年要稍微有一點要收減就對了另外一個這個是我特別提出來的就不是只有局限第一次滿75歲的我們要針對如果是65歲以上他如果曾經發生過有重大的交通違規或者是事故的駕駛人我們是不是應該在65歲以上有這些問題的要求他強制接受醫療跟認知的這個檢測\n\n7\n00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:51,327\n報告委員,這個有重大違規的部分,我們都有這個關懷的機制所謂關懷機制,其實有點類似像委員所說的這些啦那我們的關懷機制會去針對有特殊的這個肇事,或者是特殊的違規的部分會來進行,65歲以上所以是等於是65歲就開始要做這個事,對不對?是那另外一個,我具體的要求,強化認知功能這個測驗之外,我們要加上入考\n\n8\n00:02:53,528 --> 00:03:16,910\n就是不要只是紙上的這個測驗啦就是實際的那個駕駛技術的那個測驗強化他實際那個駕駛能力的評估可以嗎?報告委員我們這個認知測驗之外我們現在有加了危險感知所謂危險感知就是他遇到危險的狀況在反映能力跟對危險的理解危險感知也會加進來還有就是他視知的靈活度這個部分我們也會加進來\n\n9\n00:03:17,691 --> 00:03:32,478\n那再來講習的部分交通安全講習的部分也會加進來那針對有肇事記錄的長者他的這個實地的訓練也要加進來也就是說他真正要開車啦旁邊有人在跟他溝通跟他做訓練這個部分也會加進來\n\n10\n00:03:34,171 --> 00:04:03,133\n所以你把我第四項具體要求這個獎席這塊也加上去所以這等於是這個四大這個具體的要求還有剛剛加上一個75歲降到70都是往這方向在走嘛OK那事實上應該要配套啦所以剛剛講的保障這個行人的這個安全之外事實上高嶺這個長者他有時候為什麼要開車有時候也很不得已對不對或者是一種習慣所以我們應該配套第一個應該做的事情那就讓他要\n\n11\n00:04:04,093 --> 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