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00:00:42,181\n我想這個去年其實11月就已經有發生過這個苗栗就是71歲的阿公他因為開車那接孫子那也就是出現這個爆衝的一個狀況那前天其實也非常的遺憾我們看到這個重大的一個事故那也造成了多人的這個受傷跟死亡的一個車禍\n\n3\n00:00:43,662 --> 00:00:59,783\n那這是78歲的駕駛喔那再來就是昨天又接二連三又多了一個案件是在台南38歲的駕駛他疑似就是電線發作那造成這個交通上的一個事故喔\n\n4\n00:01:00,203 --> 00:01:24,290\n其實這個凸顯整個所有在交通上的一個現行的風險不僅僅是來自於所謂的年紀那也有可能是來自他自己本身的身心的一個狀況那想說這個駕駛到底具不具備有所謂的這個安全駕駛的一個能力那針對這個事故的一些噪音的分析評估啦大部分都會停留在所謂的違規的條目的記錄上面\n\n5\n00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:39,946\n包含是沒讓車啦轉彎不當啦等等這一類比較表面上的一個原因但是沒有進一步的釐清這個背後是不是有所謂的這個認知或者是身體障礙的一個功能的一個退化\n\n6\n00:01:41,167 --> 00:01:59,766\n這個部分換句話來講我們現在對於所謂的這個交通事故的一個研判是不是真的能夠把真正高風險的駕駛人找出來這樣子的一個問題那我想更關鍵的就是在高齡駕駛者他們如果是完成一次的換照之後那如果接下來他因為是三年嘛\n\n7\n00:02:00,226 --> 00:02:14,384\n那如果之後這三年兩三年當中他的身體可能也有急速惡化或者是什麼樣的一個狀況我們是怎麼樣能夠掌握到這個所謂的互通的一個機制才不會讓很多的風險就如此的放生這是我們比較擔心的問題\n\n8\n00:02:16,326 --> 00:02:35,008\n那針對所謂的A1這一類的重大的車禍我們是不是能夠真正的從制度上去排除我剛剛所說的這些交通事故上的一個風險有沒有考慮跟衛福部來做跨部會的一些資料上的通報跟駕照的控管的系統\n\n9\n00:02:36,042 --> 00:02:54,899\n報告委員您的這個建議非常的好我們交通部這邊會跟衛福部這邊來做借接在醫療方面的資訊看怎麼樣讓這個駕駛人能夠確定他是在安全的狀態之下能夠駕駛這個資料我們正在設法借接當中這個部分我們會來努力包含未來的修法的部分我們也會來努力來進行\n\n10\n00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:17,705\n那至於所謂的這個認知的測驗跟這個體檢的一個制度其實我們都會擔心他比較過於所謂的知識化那這個知識化通常這個肇事者都是所謂的檢查合格他其實是合格的但問題是他肇事了那這類的這個評估我們怎麼樣來明確的定出他的門檻跟處理的一個機制\n\n11\n00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:45,950\n報告委員當然肇事有很多的原因不一定是跟他的體格或者他健檢方面是有關係因為肇事的原因有非常多的樣態但是對於他整個身體的功能跟認知功能也好這個部分我們有加強我們昨天公佈的這個新的方案裡面包含針對他的危險認知還有他的認知功能這個部分我們都有加強那除此之外對於他的四肢的靈活度的這個測驗我們未來也會加進來\n\n12\n00:03:46,830 --> 00:04:14,820\n然後他對於交通安全的這個觀念跟概念我們也會透過講習的方式至少半天的講習讓長者未來在換照的過程當中能夠參與這樣子的講習那如果針對是好不好意思沒關係實地的這個訓練如果有肇事的紀錄的話實地的訓練我們也會加入那如果他本身就有一個肇事的紀錄他將來這個所謂的駕照是不是有可能會考慮就是取消他的這個資格或者換照的一個資格\n\n13\n00:04:16,539 --> 00:04:38,021\n是報告委員如果他是有造成傷亡他的駕照就會被吊銷好那如果有其他的肇事記錄不一定有造成傷亡的話這個我們就會要求要有實地的訓練好那剛剛其實我們就高齡的部分其實另外一方面像陳部長這個在記者會當中其實也強調就是這個肇事者其實蠻多的族群是在18歲到24歲的這個駕駛的年輕人的部分\n\n14\n00:04:40,723 --> 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