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00:03:18,619\n但是硬體的改善是非常重要的所以部長我也要希望兩位師長就黃師長跟林師長要特別特別你不要上來沒關係啦反正你們不能老是一直坐在辦公室裡面想你們的想法\n\n10\n00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:43,689\n實際的解決問題就像如果是在學校你可以弄一個專案去辦什麼就辦一個硬體改造如何碰撞只要有學生的地方我應該要去做什麼東西這個硬體改善也是非常重要所以我還是希望第一個聯名不是絕對改善交通人文事故的一個問題第二個\n\n11\n00:03:45,189 --> 00:04:11,036\n也就是硬體改善如何補助各地方政府去把這些緩緩的動作去把它做好這個要雙方面來去做這些決定不是把年齡降低以後事情就不會發生沒那麼簡單啦沒弄所以我希望這個你要把它當成是一回事然後來做一些研究參考國外\n\n12\n00:04:11,956 --> 00:04:34,348\n參考我們這個好接著下一張來好所以這個都不是主要的啦好來接下來好那這個還有一點我還要建議啦真的要換照那還是要考慮它違規紀錄的這些要納入考慮就像那個三峽這個案子78歲這個這個疑性這個肇事者\n\n13\n00:04:38,050 --> 00:05:05,944\n我說實在的他已經有前車之鑑已經有記錄了他還是二月份就可以去換照成功這一點我是認為我們還是要納入改革的方向好不好所以針對這個部分我要拜託部長還是你有你的想法但是我不希望你們以前所做研究現在事實上是不符合時代的不是降年齡就可以解決啦\n\n14\n00:05:06,624 --> 00:05:11,037\n所以多方面的去做改革才有辦法建這個那最後部長你可以請回來\n\n15\n00:05:15,609 --> 00:05:39,261\n部長你可以請回陳部長好我最後的時間啊算那個也不要用太多黃部長你知不知道你們在補助啊拿了補助以後拿了補助以後啊卻對以中共的做比較來你看一下這個拿了台灣的補助\n\n16\n00:05:40,675 --> 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