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00:00:34,164\n好部長剛剛有委員所提到的這個百箭桃要賺奇談那您目前知道這個網路事件嗎就是那個你說那個我們補助的那個補助的金額給他們然後讓他們去研發然後最後他的價格最後竟然比中國還高甚至有比韓國日本都高出來\n\n3\n00:00:35,344 --> 00:01:00,555\n那這個部分沒關係你已經有講了就是說你是補助研發的部分我們都支持國產嘛我也開了好幾次的一些公聽會也都有找你嘛對不對那不只是電競不只是國產遊戲我們都支持但是現在問題點出現了嘛未來這些補助的研發資金我們可不可以去設定一些內規或者是跟他們做廠商的探討未來這些的定價不要再有再下一次\n\n4\n00:01:01,567 --> 00:01:22,334\n做出一個示範給大家看這個部分您覺得呢那個我想可以從這個將來這個合約上看怎麼去規範不過有一些比較麻煩就是因為他們有時候是經過行銷公司那個行銷公司這個就是說我們當然行銷公司可能他有一些售價的一些策略這個我都知道可是我要求是說已經拿了補助了嘛\n\n5\n00:01:22,794 --> 00:01:50,509\n拿了補助他就應該我們要有這個行政機關我們主管機關應該要給他一些規範或者是給他一些勸導甚至是給他一些指引告訴他可能會衍生出後續的一些公關危機嘛所以這部分我希望說從這一次的事件我們內部是不是能夠研討一下我們會再看內部以後怎麼樣做你後續的資料可不可以給我你們研討的精進方案怎麼去改善這個資料可以給我嗎未來怎麼樣去這方面的問題怎麼去預防我們在部長大概多久可以給我一個月吧\n\n6\n00:02:09,364 --> 00:02:26,563\n好部長好部長昨天有開記者會對於我們這個重大的交通事故所產生的這些後續政府的一些對策我想網路上的一些評論你有稍微看嗎雖然你也很忙啦但是因為你也是年輕人應該都會看網路的評論對於你面對問題願意解決問題\n\n7\n00:02:31,331 --> 00:02:58,161\n其實多半民眾跟網友是給予正向的但是還是有很多人擔心是不是這個風頭過了實際的政策有沒有真的到位改善我們是很擔憂的對於改善改革的這個期程可不可以加快好報告委員我們三個月以內會提出細部的計畫因為這個事情牽扯其實相當的廣包括我們未來整個檢測的機制但我要提醒的是所以三個月以內會提出細部\n\n8\n00:02:58,561 --> 00:03:24,096\n你現在說三個月了但我要提醒的是很多的事情讓民眾會如此的擔憂不是說無中生有一定是有潛力就是我們面對網路新聞媒體的速度很快但是後續真正去實際政策改革的時候很慢我怎麼說我們升降尾門所產生的事故所造成的傷亡你目前掌握有多少人升降尾門\n\n9\n00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:45,960\n貨車會有所謂的卸貨有一個升降尾門然後他在停的時候卸貨造成這個升降尾門呈平線然後變成視野無法去辨識造成撞擊產生的死亡您知道這個有死亡事故嗎這個事故我不曉得數字\n\n10\n00:03:47,281 --> 00:04:14,016\n來我也不曉得數字啊但我要簡單跟你講網路搜尋我們都有一些相關的新聞報導兩年前就有一起兩年有點久了那每一起事故所造成他是死亡喔造成死亡我們就必須要改革嘛兩年前了這樣子的事故發生我們也沒有去做改革啊到三個月前你問你旁邊三個月前是不是還有一名我記得是夫妻造成傷亡對嗎\n\n11\n00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:42,097\n跟我們報告就是說呃就是停在路邊卸貨呃這一個升降尾門操操作不當而造成這一個呃受傷的部分的話就是說呃會有這樣操作不當我用字再更精準一點他基本上是已經完全停放在那邊了啦沒有再使用了但是就是因為他是平行線的然後升降尾門層層一條線啊黑暗的時候呢的確也看不太清楚直接就撞上了\n\n12\n00:04:42,757 --> 00:04:57,776\n所以在這個部分我要講的是3月27我們召開了一場有關貨車升降尾門的記者會我們呼籲對於升降尾門必須要有警示燈跟車尾燈兩者缺一不可而且車安中心也有召開會議預計什麼時候新車要開始安裝部長這個我們有規劃嗎\n\n13\n00:05:01,809 --> 00:05:22,452\n有跟委員報告就是說上次委員的一個這個意見那我們請車站中心邀請車體公務會大家來這個開會那目前這個車站中心在整理這些相關如果說要這個規定的規範是如何我想車站中心送上來之後我們會再來所以我要講的是嘛部長\n\n14\n00:05:23,293 --> 00:05:37,914\n兩年前就發生一起傷亡了三個月前又一起傷亡人命不斷的流失結果我們呼籲了這麼久結果呢到現在你還是沒辦法給我一個允諾時間什麼時候可以開始安裝啊\n\n15\n00:05:38,612 --> 00:06:07,205\n跟我們報告一下那個車輛硬體是一塊那但是這個我們公務總局這個就是說給這個貨車的駕駛人指引裡面就有要求這些駕駛人的升降尾門他操作完畢之後一定要下來而且都要放這些指引我都知道就是因為你的這份指引還是造成傷亡嘛沒有用啊優先還是要因為這個駕駛人我們在記者會上建議新車115年1月1日開始安裝有沒有困難\n\n16\n00:06:10,834 --> 00:06:25,709\n有沒有困難做安裝115年1月1日安裝有沒有困難跟我們報告一下這個牽涉到就是說安裝那如果說只是去貼這個LED燈的話那個是這一個很快但是你整個要把他納到那個車輛設計裡面讓他做連動\n\n17\n00:06:28,451 --> 00:06:54,598\n來啦不管是新車跟舊車我們都希望有一些精進部長車安中心這一本記錄3月27的會議拖了超過一個月到5月7號才有會議記錄車安中心5月27還要針對車輛刑事安全審驗的一個管理辦法召開一個會議請問這次為什麼升降尾門的警示燈跟車尾騎案子沒有列入會議討論怎麼又不討論了這件事情不重要嗎\n\n18\n00:06:55,458 --> 00:07:13,997\n部長今天我提出這個問題就像你昨天開的記者會你面對問題願意解決問題可是你下面這些相關的一些主管機關並沒有去積極的面對嘛升降尾門就是其中一個我們今天把所有的案例關注在我們的這個三峽事件我們當然要重視\n\n19\n00:07:15,118 --> 00:07:44,538\n這個很重要可是三個月前才發生傷亡的升降尾門到現階段都還沒有具體的精進方案甚至連會議都不列入討論然後告訴你們1月1號明年的1月1號可不可以開始全面新車安裝沒有一個確定的答案所以我們對於政府現階段不信任嘛有一個這樣子的一個部長願意面對但是下面的人不願意去處理最後還是結論沒有所以今天部長你能不能承諾升降尾門能不能積極面對你能不能開始要求\n\n20\n00:07:44,858 --> 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上次委員的一個這個意見那我們請車站中心邀請車體公務會大家來這個開會那目前這個車站中心在整理這些相關如果說要這個規定的規範是如何我想車站中心送上來之後我們會再來所以我要講的是嘛 部長\n323293\t337914\t兩年前就發生一起傷亡了三個月前又一起傷亡人命不斷的流失結果我們呼籲了這麼久結果呢到現在你還是沒辦法給我一個允諾時間什麼時候可以開始安裝啊\n338612\t367205\t跟我們報告一下那個車輛硬體是一塊那但是這個我們公務總局這個就是說給這個貨車的駕駛人指引裡面就有要求這些駕駛人的升降尾門他操作完畢之後一定要下來而且都要放這些指引我都知道就是因為你的這份指引還是造成傷亡嘛沒有用啊優先還是要因為這個駕駛人我們在記者會上建議新車115年1月1日開始安裝有沒有困難\n370834\t385709\t有沒有困難做安裝115年1月1日安裝有沒有困難跟我們報告一下這個牽涉到就是說安裝那如果說只是去貼這個LED燈的話那個是這一個很快但是你整個要把他納到那個車輛設計裡面讓他做連動\n388451\t414598\t來啦不管是新車跟舊車我們都希望有一些精進部長車安中心這一本記錄3月27的會議拖了超過一個月到5月7號才有會議記錄車安中心5月27還要針對車輛刑事安全審驗的一個管理辦法召開一個會議請問這次為什麼升降尾門的警示燈跟車尾騎案子沒有列入會議討論怎麼又不討論了這件事情不重要嗎\n415458\t433997\t部長今天我提出這個問題就像你昨天開的記者會你面對問題願意解決問題可是你下面這些相關的一些主管機關並沒有去積極的面對嘛升降尾門就是其中一個我們今天把所有的案例關注在我們的這個三峽事件我們當然要重視\n435118\t464538\t這個很重要可是三個月前才發生傷亡的升降尾門到現階段都還沒有具體的精進方案甚至連會議都不列入討論然後告訴你們1月1號明年的1月1號可不可以開始全面新車安裝沒有一個確定的答案所以我們對於政府現階段不信任嘛有一個這樣子的一個部長願意面對但是下面的人不願意去處理最後還是結論沒有所以今天部長你能不能承諾升降尾門能不能積極面對你能不能開始要求\n464858\t485026\t我們部裡面自己我請這個公運監理師他們自己先來召開會議看如何精進這個部分我們部裡面先來做部長我今天舉出這個案例拜託你一定要稍微了解因為剛剛有稍微問你你也不太了解這樣的事故事故的多元性我當然能夠體諒但是這個事故我覺得這還有其必要性好嗎好 謝謝\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我們先有請速發部部長請黃部長交通部部長請準備謝謝\n好 部長剛剛有委員所提到的這個百箭桃要賺奇談那您目前知道這個網路事件嗎就是那個你說那個我們補助的那個補助的金額給他們然後讓他們去研發然後最後他的價格最後竟然比中國還高甚至有比韓國日本都高出來\n那這個部分沒關係你已經有講了就是說你是補助研發的部分我們都支持國產嘛我也開了好幾次的一些公聽會也都有找你嘛對不對那不只是電競不只是國產遊戲我們都支持但是現在問題點出現了嘛未來這些補助的研發資金我們可不可以去設定一些內規或者是跟他們做廠商的探討未來這些的定價不要再有再下一次\n做出一個示範給大家看這個部分您覺得呢那個我想可以從這個將來這個合約上看怎麼去規範不過有一些比較麻煩就是因為他們有時候是經過行銷公司那個行銷公司這個就是說我們當然行銷公司可能他有一些售價的一些策略這個我都知道可是我要求是說已經拿了補助了嘛\n拿了補助他就應該我們要有這個行政機關我們主管機關應該要給他一些規範或者是給他一些勸導甚至是給他一些指引告訴他可能會衍生出後續的一些公關危機嘛所以這部分我希望說從這一次的事件我們內部是不是能夠研討一下我們會再看內部以後怎麼樣做你後續的資料可不可以給我你們研討的精進方案怎麼去改善這個資料可以給我嗎未來怎麼樣去這方面的問題怎麼去預防我們在部長大概多久可以給我一個月吧\n陳國長\n好 部長好部長昨天有開記者會對於我們這個重大的交通事故所產生的這些後續政府的一些對策我想網路上的一些評論你有稍微看嗎雖然你也很忙啦但是因為你也是年輕人應該都會看網路的評論對於你面對問題願意解決問題\n其實多半民眾跟網友是給予正向的但是還是有很多人擔心是不是這個風頭過了實際的政策有沒有真的到位改善我們是很擔憂的對於改善改革的這個期程可不可以加快好 報告委員我們三個月以內會提出細部的計畫因為這個事情牽扯其實相當的廣包括我們未來整個檢測的機制但我要提醒的是所以三個月以內會提出細部\n你現在說三個月了但我要提醒的是很多的事情讓民眾會如此的擔憂不是說無中生有一定是有潛力就是我們面對網路新聞媒體的速度很快但是後續真正去實際政策改革的時候很慢我怎麼說我們升降尾門所產生的事故所造成的傷亡你目前掌握有多少人升降尾門\n貨車會有所謂的卸貨有一個升降尾門然後他在停的時候卸貨造成這個升降尾門呈平線然後變成視野無法去辨識造成撞擊產生的死亡您知道這個有死亡事故嗎這個事故我不曉得數字\n來 我也不曉得數字啊但我要簡單跟你講網路搜尋我們都有一些相關的新聞報導兩年前就有一起兩年有點久了那每一起事故所造成他是死亡喔造成死亡我們就必須要改革嘛兩年前了這樣子的事故發生我們也沒有去做改革啊到三個月前你問你旁邊三個月前是不是還有一名我記得是夫妻造成傷亡對嗎\n跟我們報告就是說呃就是停在路邊卸貨呃這一個升降尾門操操作不當而造成這一個呃受傷的部分的話就是說呃會有這樣操作不當我用字再更精準一點他基本上是已經完全停放在那邊了啦沒有再使用了但是就是因為他是平行線的然後升降尾門層層一條線啊黑暗的時候呢的確也看不太清楚直接就撞上了\n所以在這個部分我要講的是3月27我們召開了一場有關貨車升降尾門的記者會我們呼籲對於升降尾門必須要有警示燈跟車尾燈兩者缺一不可而且車安中心也有召開會議預計什麼時候新車要開始安裝部長這個我們有規劃嗎\n有 跟委員報告就是說 上次委員的一個這個意見那我們請車站中心邀請車體公務會大家來這個開會那目前這個車站中心在整理這些相關如果說要這個規定的規範是如何我想車站中心送上來之後我們會再來所以我要講的是嘛 部長\n兩年前就發生一起傷亡了三個月前又一起傷亡人命不斷的流失結果我們呼籲了這麼久結果呢到現在你還是沒辦法給我一個允諾時間什麼時候可以開始安裝啊\n跟我們報告一下那個車輛硬體是一塊那但是這個我們公務總局這個就是說給這個貨車的駕駛人指引裡面就有要求這些駕駛人的升降尾門他操作完畢之後一定要下來而且都要放這些指引我都知道就是因為你的這份指引還是造成傷亡嘛沒有用啊優先還是要因為這個駕駛人我們在記者會上建議新車115年1月1日開始安裝有沒有困難\n有沒有困難做安裝115年1月1日安裝有沒有困難跟我們報告一下這個牽涉到就是說安裝那如果說只是去貼這個LED燈的話那個是這一個很快但是你整個要把他納到那個車輛設計裡面讓他做連動\n來啦不管是新車跟舊車我們都希望有一些精進部長車安中心這一本記錄3月27的會議拖了超過一個月到5月7號才有會議記錄車安中心5月27還要針對車輛刑事安全審驗的一個管理辦法召開一個會議請問這次為什麼升降尾門的警示燈跟車尾騎案子沒有列入會議討論怎麼又不討論了這件事情不重要嗎\n部長今天我提出這個問題就像你昨天開的記者會你面對問題願意解決問題可是你下面這些相關的一些主管機關並沒有去積極的面對嘛升降尾門就是其中一個我們今天把所有的案例關注在我們的這個三峽事件我們當然要重視\n這個很重要可是三個月前才發生傷亡的升降尾門到現階段都還沒有具體的精進方案甚至連會議都不列入討論然後告訴你們1月1號明年的1月1號可不可以開始全面新車安裝沒有一個確定的答案所以我們對於政府現階段不信任嘛有一個這樣子的一個部長願意面對但是下面的人不願意去處理最後還是結論沒有所以今天部長你能不能承諾升降尾門能不能積極面對你能不能開始要求\n我們部裡面自己我請這個公運監理師他們自己先來召開會議看如何精進這個部分我們部裡面先來做部長我今天舉出這個案例拜託你一定要稍微了解因為剛剛有稍微問你你也不太了解這樣的事故事故的多元性我當然能夠體諒但是這個事故我覺得這還有其必要性好嗎好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.025 --> 00:06.994\n好謝謝主席我們先有請速發部部長請黃部長交通部部長請準備謝謝\n\n00:13.510 --> 00:34.164\n好部長剛剛有委員所提到的這個百箭桃要賺奇談那您目前知道這個網路事件嗎就是那個你說那個我們補助的那個補助的金額給他們然後讓他們去研發然後最後他的價格最後竟然比中國還高甚至有比韓國日本都高出來\n\n00:35.344 --> 01:00.555\n那這個部分沒關係你已經有講了就是說你是補助研發的部分我們都支持國產嘛我也開了好幾次的一些公聽會也都有找你嘛對不對那不只是電競不只是國產遊戲我們都支持但是現在問題點出現了嘛未來這些補助的研發資金我們可不可以去設定一些內規或者是跟他們做廠商的探討未來這些的定價不要再有再下一次\n\n01:01.567 --> 01:22.334\n做出一個示範給大家看這個部分您覺得呢那個我想可以從這個將來這個合約上看怎麼去規範不過有一些比較麻煩就是因為他們有時候是經過行銷公司那個行銷公司這個就是說我們當然行銷公司可能他有一些售價的一些策略這個我都知道可是我要求是說已經拿了補助了嘛\n\n01:22.794 --> 01:50.509\n拿了補助他就應該我們要有這個行政機關我們主管機關應該要給他一些規範或者是給他一些勸導甚至是給他一些指引告訴他可能會衍生出後續的一些公關危機嘛所以這部分我希望說從這一次的事件我們內部是不是能夠研討一下我們會再看內部以後怎麼樣做你後續的資料可不可以給我你們研討的精進方案怎麼去改善這個資料可以給我嗎未來怎麼樣去這方面的問題怎麼去預防我們在部長大概多久可以給我一個月吧\n\n02:09.364 --> 02:26.563\n好部長好部長昨天有開記者會對於我們這個重大的交通事故所產生的這些後續政府的一些對策我想網路上的一些評論你有稍微看嗎雖然你也很忙啦但是因為你也是年輕人應該都會看網路的評論對於你面對問題願意解決問題\n\n02:31.331 --> 02:58.161\n其實多半民眾跟網友是給予正向的但是還是有很多人擔心是不是這個風頭過了實際的政策有沒有真的到位改善我們是很擔憂的對於改善改革的這個期程可不可以加快好報告委員我們三個月以內會提出細部的計畫因為這個事情牽扯其實相當的廣包括我們未來整個檢測的機制但我要提醒的是所以三個月以內會提出細部\n\n02:58.561 --> 03:24.096\n你現在說三個月了但我要提醒的是很多的事情讓民眾會如此的擔憂不是說無中生有一定是有潛力就是我們面對網路新聞媒體的速度很快但是後續真正去實際政策改革的時候很慢我怎麼說我們升降尾門所產生的事故所造成的傷亡你目前掌握有多少人升降尾門\n\n03:26.765 --> 03:45.960\n貨車會有所謂的卸貨有一個升降尾門然後他在停的時候卸貨造成這個升降尾門呈平線然後變成視野無法去辨識造成撞擊產生的死亡您知道這個有死亡事故嗎這個事故我不曉得數字\n\n03:47.281 --> 04:14.016\n來我也不曉得數字啊但我要簡單跟你講網路搜尋我們都有一些相關的新聞報導兩年前就有一起兩年有點久了那每一起事故所造成他是死亡喔造成死亡我們就必須要改革嘛兩年前了這樣子的事故發生我們也沒有去做改革啊到三個月前你問你旁邊三個月前是不是還有一名我記得是夫妻造成傷亡對嗎\n\n04:17.950 --> 04:42.097\n跟我們報告就是說呃就是停在路邊卸貨呃這一個升降尾門操操作不當而造成這一個呃受傷的部分的話就是說呃會有這樣操作不當我用字再更精準一點他基本上是已經完全停放在那邊了啦沒有再使用了但是就是因為他是平行線的然後升降尾門層層一條線啊黑暗的時候呢的確也看不太清楚直接就撞上了\n\n04:42.757 --> 04:57.776\n所以在這個部分我要講的是3月27我們召開了一場有關貨車升降尾門的記者會我們呼籲對於升降尾門必須要有警示燈跟車尾燈兩者缺一不可而且車安中心也有召開會議預計什麼時候新車要開始安裝部長這個我們有規劃嗎\n\n05:01.809 --> 05:22.452\n有跟委員報告就是說上次委員的一個這個意見那我們請車站中心邀請車體公務會大家來這個開會那目前這個車站中心在整理這些相關如果說要這個規定的規範是如何我想車站中心送上來之後我們會再來所以我要講的是嘛部長\n\n05:23.293 --> 05:37.914\n兩年前就發生一起傷亡了三個月前又一起傷亡人命不斷的流失結果我們呼籲了這麼久結果呢到現在你還是沒辦法給我一個允諾時間什麼時候可以開始安裝啊\n\n05:38.612 --> 06:07.205\n跟我們報告一下那個車輛硬體是一塊那但是這個我們公務總局這個就是說給這個貨車的駕駛人指引裡面就有要求這些駕駛人的升降尾門他操作完畢之後一定要下來而且都要放這些指引我都知道就是因為你的這份指引還是造成傷亡嘛沒有用啊優先還是要因為這個駕駛人我們在記者會上建議新車115年1月1日開始安裝有沒有困難\n\n06:10.834 --> 06:25.709\n有沒有困難做安裝115年1月1日安裝有沒有困難跟我們報告一下這個牽涉到就是說安裝那如果說只是去貼這個LED燈的話那個是這一個很快但是你整個要把他納到那個車輛設計裡面讓他做連動\n\n06:28.451 --> 06:54.598\n來啦不管是新車跟舊車我們都希望有一些精進部長車安中心這一本記錄3月27的會議拖了超過一個月到5月7號才有會議記錄車安中心5月27還要針對車輛刑事安全審驗的一個管理辦法召開一個會議請問這次為什麼升降尾門的警示燈跟車尾騎案子沒有列入會議討論怎麼又不討論了這件事情不重要嗎\n\n06:55.458 --> 07:13.997\n部長今天我提出這個問題就像你昨天開的記者會你面對問題願意解決問題可是你下面這些相關的一些主管機關並沒有去積極的面對嘛升降尾門就是其中一個我們今天把所有的案例關注在我們的這個三峽事件我們當然要重視\n\n07:15.118 --> 07:44.538\n這個很重要可是三個月前才發生傷亡的升降尾門到現階段都還沒有具體的精進方案甚至連會議都不列入討論然後告訴你們1月1號明年的1月1號可不可以開始全面新車安裝沒有一個確定的答案所以我們對於政府現階段不信任嘛有一個這樣子的一個部長願意面對但是下面的人不願意去處理最後還是結論沒有所以今天部長你能不能承諾升降尾門能不能積極面對你能不能開始要求\n\n07:44.858 --> 08:05.026\n我們部裡面自己我請這個公運監理師他們自己先來召開會議看如何精進這個部分我們部裡面先來做部長我今天舉出這個案例拜託你一定要稍微了解因為剛剛有稍微問你你也不太了解這樣的事故事故的多元性我當然能夠體諒但是這個事故我覺得這還有其必要性好嗎好謝謝\n\n","segments":[{"start":2.025,"end":6.994,"text":"好謝謝主席我們先有請速發部部長請黃部長交通部部長請準備謝謝"},{"start":13.51,"end":34.164,"text":"好 部長剛剛有委員所提到的這個百箭桃要賺奇談那您目前知道這個網路事件嗎就是那個你說那個我們補助的那個補助的金額給他們然後讓他們去研發然後最後他的價格最後竟然比中國還高甚至有比韓國日本都高出來"},{"start":35.344,"end":60.555,"text":"那這個部分沒關係你已經有講了就是說你是補助研發的部分我們都支持國產嘛我也開了好幾次的一些公聽會也都有找你嘛對不對那不只是電競不只是國產遊戲我們都支持但是現在問題點出現了嘛未來這些補助的研發資金我們可不可以去設定一些內規或者是跟他們做廠商的探討未來這些的定價不要再有再下一次"},{"start":61.567,"end":82.334,"text":"做出一個示範給大家看這個部分您覺得呢那個我想可以從這個將來這個合約上看怎麼去規範不過有一些比較麻煩就是因為他們有時候是經過行銷公司那個行銷公司這個就是說我們當然行銷公司可能他有一些售價的一些策略這個我都知道可是我要求是說已經拿了補助了嘛"},{"start":82.794,"end":110.509,"text":"拿了補助他就應該我們要有這個行政機關我們主管機關應該要給他一些規範或者是給他一些勸導甚至是給他一些指引告訴他可能會衍生出後續的一些公關危機嘛所以這部分我希望說從這一次的事件我們內部是不是能夠研討一下我們會再看內部以後怎麼樣做你後續的資料可不可以給我你們研討的精進方案怎麼去改善這個資料可以給我嗎未來怎麼樣去這方面的問題怎麼去預防我們在部長大概多久可以給我一個月吧"},{"start":112.927,"end":127.125,"text":"陳國長"},{"start":129.364,"end":146.563,"text":"好 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