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00:02:12,088\n結果5月17號我想請問一下台北市早在2月25號就主辦單位2月25號就來邀請總統我想佛明爽應該知道可是呢我們總統府一直到5月15號才告知說總統國事繁忙不出席好你繁忙不出席所以其實整個的維安也因此而降級了\n\n6\n00:02:12,788 --> 00:02:37,097\n沒有想到5月16號早上8點主辦單位公布黃仁勛先生擔任整個的聖火就是其中的一個聖火手之一馬上在同天5月16號總統府又立刻來派出蕭美琴副總統去參加市狀運但是5月17號當天就開幕所以整個維安\n\n7\n00:02:41,579 --> 00:02:48,916\n又開始要整個升級因為國家元首副總統來總就是這個規格是不一樣的\n\n8\n00:02:50,157 --> 00:03:14,776\n所以我想請教一下為什麼我們現在總統也好總統府秘書長也好國安會秘書長也好可以如此的任性想不來就不來想來就來當作兒戲嗎我想請問一下總統當天說5月17號國政繁忙其實我有特別去查當天5月17號總統的行程總統府的公開行程\n\n9\n00:03:18,659 --> 00:03:37,634\n事實上講沒有公開行程但是當天下午有公佈說總統有接見外賓啦那是上午的時間接下來我們看不到任何怎麼樣的國政繁忙難道賴總統他有跟川普通電話我們不知道嗎\n\n10\n00:03:38,991 --> 00:03:53,685\n繁忙到像這個視壯運你也沒有任何公開行程啊你也沒有到哪裡去視察啊還是說真的有跟美國的政要川普通電話而我們不知道呢機密到我們不知道\n\n11\n00:03:54,506 --> 00:04:23,028\n所以這樣子的一個很任性的行為我真的覺得要適可而止要對某一些的活動對於立法院要給予一定的尊重另外我想請教一下因為這邊有特別來解凍特別講到媒體那這裡面還特別提到就是我們有總統府LINE的官方帳號\n\n12\n00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:44,780\n最近副秘書長也有一個大錯字吧應該是兩個大錯字兢兢業業是吧這個我是覺得有點落差啦但是重點是我想請教一下每一次總統的週年就職週年\n\n13\n00:04:46,876 --> 00:04:55,766\n總統的談話洞見觀瞻請問一下在今年有多少國內的媒體國內的媒體有向總統發出邀約請問一下國內的媒體其實陸陸續續都有在邀約他應該很多吧\n\n14\n00:05:04,232 --> 00:05:19,088\n有的這裡說很多因為總統的就職週年總統每一句話不管是兩岸的國際的經濟的國防等等都是很重要的\n\n15\n00:05:21,089 --> 00:05:41,604\n那可以告訴我嗎你們接受媒體的這個邀約一定有有多少家屬我講的是本國媒體家屬的部分馬上跟委員報告我想紅衛委員那外國媒體呢紅衛委員您自己以前也是媒體對外國媒體呢這個我問的都是事實這沒有什麼好好保密的嘛因為我為什麼要問這個問題我為什麼要再問這個問題因為這一次在至早到目前為止\n\n16\n00:05:49,707 --> 00:06:17,180\n昨天520嘛今天521嘛到目前為止我只看到總統接受了一家外媒日本經濟新聞一家本國媒體財訊另外還有最近大家提到的因為認為總統失言把台灣當作一個可交易的幫他當成公司併購的叫做敏迪選獨對不對他是一個podcast\n\n17\n00:06:18,735 --> 00:06:42,500\n然後還有嗎我有沒有遺漏的沒有遺漏怎麼只會這樣少少的媒體呢我就想說顯然應該有很多媒體會要邀訪總統好我要講的是你們今天要讓我們解凍是因為呢宣傳非常重要沒錯總統的宣傳很重要大外宣大內宣都很重要但是如果有很多媒體願意來幫總統宣傳\n\n18\n00:06:45,080 --> 00:07:08,010\n如果照您所講很多媒體都有來邀約為什麼到目前為止我剛講說我有沒有遺漏沒有遺漏怎麼就是只有這麼少數的外媒一家本媒一家然後一個podcast當然舉行一個記者會啊沒有了啊怎麼這樣子呢這麼好的一個大內宣大外宣機會為什麼要這樣措施呢\n\n19\n00:07:10,071 --> 00:07:33,604\n其實針對台灣的國際形象洪文委員您過去一直在幫忙也很感謝啦那近期賴總統的專訪等等總共會有五次那我想一任總統他在不同階段跟時期會有不同的露出那我們這一次其實我想洪文委員很謝謝你日本的年輕的世代對於台灣很好奇\n\n20\n00:07:34,785 --> 00:07:56,160\n同時在這一次獨賣電視的流量也好反應都很正面那我想過去我們朝野一起努力那紅衛委員也很幫忙那我們以往是全球各個五大洲那這一次比較focus在日本這一塊那反應成效都很好那我想接下來還有一些不斷不同的露出\n\n21\n00:07:57,361 --> 00:08:16,020\n為什麼特別去講這一個這當然是因為今天正好五二一因為總統就職週年那你們又特別提到這個解凍案裡面把這個有關於沒宣的這一塊作為也算是你們重點那所以我要講的就是說其實有很多的宣傳不一定要由政府花錢嘛\n\n22\n00:08:16,701 --> 00:08:20,504\n就是當然總統會比較辛苦一點幕僚辛苦一點要幫他準備幫他猜題或者一般來講媒體都會把題目提供給你要幫他準備不要讓總統失言讓總統講話要有內容等等那當然不要有錯字什麼兢兢業業這一類的\n\n23\n00:08:35,970 --> 00:08:58,895\n那我覺得這個就要多多去把握嘛那我覺得這一次讓我感覺就是啊怎麼怎麼就這幾家媒體啊當然你要去嘗試一些非過去的這個傳統媒體我覺得也很好但是呢如果除非啊除非我最後要問除非有媒體很多媒體都不要來邀約了我也不想邀約啊有什麼好講講你就這樣子那如果還是有媒體邀約就應該把握而不是只是想要花錢而已好不好\n\n24\n00:09:05,276 --> 00:09:27,974\n洪文委員也快速跟您做一分鐘的報告這一次新聞發布裡面因為視聽的方式開始改變了所以我們很期待有聽樂平權那我想這幾年朝野一起努力那台灣被全世界在關注我們有直播那還有一些手語也好或各國的翻譯這都放在我們這一次新聞發布中心的預算\n\n25\n00:09:29,155 --> 00:09:36,741\n副秘書長我真的覺得你也很辛苦啊因為我知道你今天一直就是要拜訪我們在野的黨團這個精神可嘉賴總統要給你加分但是呢我覺得你要去講什麼過兩個禮拜啊大家就要餓肚子我覺得大可不必啦\n\n26\n00:09:48,169 --> 00:10:01,598\n不用太誇張啦好不好因為基本上你看我們這個召委很主動的來排解凍案早上休息但是下午立刻排解凍案都非常大家一起來配合好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n10947\t33614\t好 謝謝主席我先請副秘書長哪一位副秘書長總統府副秘書長今天我們要處理國安會嗎有 國安會也有在今天同時處理國安會啊就是看大家覺得對 進行尋答OK好那請總統府好了防衛委員好\n39076\t48208\t今天我們副秘書長展現了人盯人的做法但是我必須要講\n49998\t74216\t還是要譴責一下 我們兩大秘書長都不來立法院顯然是不重視不重視整個的立法院 也不重視預算我必須講 我們一直在講說要強化國家任性 國家任性但是呢 我們現在整個的總統 總統府乃至於國安會很任性啊是很任性的 想來就來 想不來就不來\n76072\t103252\t不但是今天立法院的預算凍結我想在上個星期5月17號舉行的雙北市壯運其實最近的成績看到有很多百歲的人類還可以有好的成績八十幾歲也有好的成績激勵了非常非常多的長者很多年輕人看了也都非常感動\n104481\t132088\t結果5月17號我想請問一下台北市早在2月25號就主辦單位2月25號就來邀請總統我想佛明爽應該知道可是呢我們總統府一直到5月15號才告知說總統國事繁忙不出席好 你繁忙不出席所以其實整個的維安也因此而降級了\n132788\t157097\t沒有想到5月16號早上8點主辦單位公布黃仁勛先生擔任整個的聖火就是其中的一個聖火手之一馬上在同天5月16號總統府又立刻來派出蕭美琴副總統去參加市狀運但是5月17號當天就開幕所以整個維安\n161579\t168916\t又開始要整個升級因為國家元首 副總統來 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我要講的是你們今天要讓我們解凍是因為呢宣傳非常重要沒錯 總統的宣傳很重要大外宣 大內宣都很重要但是如果有很多媒體願意來幫總統宣傳\n405080\t428010\t如果照您所講 很多媒體都有來邀約為什麼到目前為止 我剛講說我有沒有遺漏 沒有遺漏怎麼就是只有這麼少數的外媒一家 本媒一家 然後一個podcast當然舉行一個記者會 啊 沒有了啊怎麼這樣子呢這麼好的一個大內宣大外宣機會 為什麼要這樣措施呢\n430071\t453604\t其實針對台灣的國際形象 洪文委員您過去一直在幫忙也很感謝啦那近期賴總統的專訪等等總共會有五次那我想一任總統他在不同階段跟時期會有不同的露出那我們這一次其實我想洪文委員很謝謝你日本的年輕的世代對於台灣很好奇\n454785\t476160\t同時在這一次獨賣電視的流量也好反應都很正面那我想過去我們朝野一起努力那紅衛委員也很幫忙那我們以往是全球各個五大洲那這一次比較focus在日本這一塊那反應成效都很好那我想接下來還有一些不斷不同的露出\n477361\t496020\t為什麼特別去講這一個這當然是因為今天正好五二一因為總統就職週年那你們又特別提到這個解凍案裡面把這個有關於沒宣的這一塊作為也算是你們重點那所以我要講的就是說其實有很多的宣傳不一定要由政府花錢嘛\n496701\t500504\t就是當然總統會比較辛苦一點 幕僚辛苦一點要幫他準備 幫他猜題 或者一般來講媒體都會把題目提供給你要幫他準備 不要讓總統失言 讓總統講話要有內容等等那當然不要有錯字 什麼兢兢業業這一類的\n515970\t538895\t那我覺得這個就要多多去把握嘛那我覺得這一次讓我感覺就是啊怎麼怎麼就這幾家媒體啊當然你要去嘗試一些非過去的這個傳統媒體我覺得也很好但是呢如果除非啊除非我最後要問除非有媒體很多媒體都不要來邀約了我也不想邀約啊有什麼好講講你就這樣子那如果還是有媒體邀約就應該把握而不是只是想要花錢而已好不好\n545276\t567974\t洪文委員也快速跟您做一分鐘的報告這一次新聞發布裡面因為視聽的方式開始改變了所以我們很期待有聽樂平權那我想這幾年朝野一起努力那台灣被全世界在關注我們有直播那還有一些手語也好或各國的翻譯這都放在我們這一次新聞發布中心的預算\n569155\t576741\t副秘書長 我真的覺得你也很辛苦啊因為我知道你今天一直就是要拜訪我們在野的黨團這個精神可嘉賴總統要給你加分但是呢 我覺得你要去講什麼過兩個禮拜啊 大家就要餓肚子我覺得大可不必啦\n588169\t601598\t不用太誇張啦好不好因為基本上你看我們這個召委很主動的來排解凍案早上休息但是下午立刻排解凍案都非常大家一起來配合好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席我先請副秘書長哪一位副秘書長總統府副秘書長今天我們要處理國安會嗎有 國安會也有在今天同時處理國安會啊就是看大家覺得對 進行尋答OK好那請總統府好了防衛委員好\n今天我們副秘書長展現了人盯人的做法但是我必須要講\n還是要譴責一下 我們兩大秘書長都不來立法院顯然是不重視不重視整個的立法院 也不重視預算我必須講 我們一直在講說要強化國家任性 國家任性但是呢 我們現在整個的總統 總統府乃至於國安會很任性啊是很任性的 想來就來 想不來就不來\n不但是今天立法院的預算凍結我想在上個星期5月17號舉行的雙北市壯運其實最近的成績看到有很多百歲的人類還可以有好的成績八十幾歲也有好的成績激勵了非常非常多的長者很多年輕人看了也都非常感動\n結果5月17號我想請問一下台北市早在2月25號就主辦單位2月25號就來邀請總統我想佛明爽應該知道可是呢我們總統府一直到5月15號才告知說總統國事繁忙不出席好 你繁忙不出席所以其實整個的維安也因此而降級了\n沒有想到5月16號早上8點主辦單位公布黃仁勛先生擔任整個的聖火就是其中的一個聖火手之一馬上在同天5月16號總統府又立刻來派出蕭美琴副總統去參加市狀運但是5月17號當天就開幕所以整個維安\n又開始要整個升級因為國家元首 副總統來 總就是這個規格是不一樣的\n所以我想請教一下為什麼我們現在總統也好總統府秘書長也好國安會秘書長也好可以如此的任性想不來就不來想來就來當作兒戲嗎我想請問一下總統當天說5月17號國政繁忙其實我有特別去查當天5月17號總統的行程總統府的公開行程\n事實上講沒有公開行程但是當天下午有公佈說總統有接見外賓啦那是上午的時間接下來我們看不到任何怎麼樣的國政繁忙難道賴總統他有跟川普通電話我們不知道嗎\n繁忙到像這個視壯運你也沒有任何公開行程啊你也沒有到哪裡去視察啊還是說真的有跟美國的政要川普通電話而我們不知道呢機密到我們不知道\n所以這樣子的一個很任性的行為我真的覺得要適可而止要對某一些的活動對於立法院要給予一定的尊重另外我想請教一下因為這邊有特別來解凍特別講到媒體那這裡面還特別提到就是我們有總統府LINE的官方帳號\n最近 副秘書長 也有一個大錯字吧應該是兩個大錯字 兢兢業業 是吧這個 我是覺得有點落差啦但是 重點是 我想請教一下每一次總統的週年 就職週年\n總統的談話洞見觀瞻請問一下在今年有多少國內的媒體國內的媒體有向總統發出邀約請問一下國內的媒體其實陸陸續續都有在邀約他應該很多吧\n有的這裡說很多因為總統的就職週年總統每一句話不管是兩岸的國際的經濟的國防等等都是很重要的\n那可以告訴我嗎你們接受媒體的這個邀約一定有有多少家屬我講的是本國媒體家屬的部分馬上跟委員報告我想紅衛委員那外國媒體呢紅衛委員您自己以前也是媒體對外國媒體呢這個我問的都是事實這沒有什麼好好保密的嘛因為我為什麼要問這個問題我為什麼要再問這個問題因為這一次在至早到目前為止\n昨天520嘛今天521嘛到目前為止我只看到總統接受了一家外媒日本經濟新聞一家本國媒體財訊另外還有最近大家提到的因為認為總統失言把台灣當作一個可交易的幫他當成公司併購的叫做敏迪選獨對不對他是一個podcast\n然後還有嗎我有沒有遺漏的沒有遺漏怎麼只會這樣少少的媒體呢我就想說顯然應該有很多媒體會要邀訪總統好 我要講的是你們今天要讓我們解凍是因為呢宣傳非常重要沒錯 總統的宣傳很重要大外宣 大內宣都很重要但是如果有很多媒體願意來幫總統宣傳\n如果照您所講 很多媒體都有來邀約為什麼到目前為止 我剛講說我有沒有遺漏 沒有遺漏怎麼就是只有這麼少數的外媒一家 本媒一家 然後一個podcast當然舉行一個記者會 啊 沒有了啊怎麼這樣子呢這麼好的一個大內宣大外宣機會 為什麼要這樣措施呢\n其實針對台灣的國際形象 洪文委員您過去一直在幫忙也很感謝啦那近期賴總統的專訪等等總共會有五次那我想一任總統他在不同階段跟時期會有不同的露出那我們這一次其實我想洪文委員很謝謝你日本的年輕的世代對於台灣很好奇\n同時在這一次獨賣電視的流量也好反應都很正面那我想過去我們朝野一起努力那紅衛委員也很幫忙那我們以往是全球各個五大洲那這一次比較focus在日本這一塊那反應成效都很好那我想接下來還有一些不斷不同的露出\n為什麼特別去講這一個這當然是因為今天正好五二一因為總統就職週年那你們又特別提到這個解凍案裡面把這個有關於沒宣的這一塊作為也算是你們重點那所以我要講的就是說其實有很多的宣傳不一定要由政府花錢嘛\n就是當然總統會比較辛苦一點 幕僚辛苦一點要幫他準備 幫他猜題 或者一般來講媒體都會把題目提供給你要幫他準備 不要讓總統失言 讓總統講話要有內容等等那當然不要有錯字 什麼兢兢業業這一類的\n那我覺得這個就要多多去把握嘛那我覺得這一次讓我感覺就是啊怎麼怎麼就這幾家媒體啊當然你要去嘗試一些非過去的這個傳統媒體我覺得也很好但是呢如果除非啊除非我最後要問除非有媒體很多媒體都不要來邀約了我也不想邀約啊有什麼好講講你就這樣子那如果還是有媒體邀約就應該把握而不是只是想要花錢而已好不好\n洪文委員也快速跟您做一分鐘的報告這一次新聞發布裡面因為視聽的方式開始改變了所以我們很期待有聽樂平權那我想這幾年朝野一起努力那台灣被全世界在關注我們有直播那還有一些手語也好或各國的翻譯這都放在我們這一次新聞發布中心的預算\n副秘書長 我真的覺得你也很辛苦啊因為我知道你今天一直就是要拜訪我們在野的黨團這個精神可嘉賴總統要給你加分但是呢 我覺得你要去講什麼過兩個禮拜啊 大家就要餓肚子我覺得大可不必啦\n不用太誇張啦好不好因為基本上你看我們這個召委很主動的來排解凍案早上休息但是下午立刻排解凍案都非常大家一起來配合好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:10.947 --> 00:33.614\n好謝謝主席我先請副秘書長哪一位副秘書長總統府副秘書長今天我們要處理國安會嗎有國安會也有在今天同時處理國安會啊就是看大家覺得對進行尋答OK好那請總統府好了防衛委員好\n\n00:39.076 --> 00:48.208\n今天我們副秘書長展現了人盯人的做法但是我必須要講\n\n00:49.998 --> 01:14.216\n還是要譴責一下我們兩大秘書長都不來立法院顯然是不重視不重視整個的立法院也不重視預算我必須講我們一直在講說要強化國家任性國家任性但是呢我們現在整個的總統總統府乃至於國安會很任性啊是很任性的想來就來想不來就不來\n\n01:16.072 --> 01:43.252\n不但是今天立法院的預算凍結我想在上個星期5月17號舉行的雙北市壯運其實最近的成績看到有很多百歲的人類還可以有好的成績八十幾歲也有好的成績激勵了非常非常多的長者很多年輕人看了也都非常感動\n\n01:44.481 --> 02:12.088\n結果5月17號我想請問一下台北市早在2月25號就主辦單位2月25號就來邀請總統我想佛明爽應該知道可是呢我們總統府一直到5月15號才告知說總統國事繁忙不出席好你繁忙不出席所以其實整個的維安也因此而降級了\n\n02:12.788 --> 02:37.097\n沒有想到5月16號早上8點主辦單位公布黃仁勛先生擔任整個的聖火就是其中的一個聖火手之一馬上在同天5月16號總統府又立刻來派出蕭美琴副總統去參加市狀運但是5月17號當天就開幕所以整個維安\n\n02:41.579 --> 02:48.916\n又開始要整個升級因為國家元首副總統來總就是這個規格是不一樣的\n\n02:50.157 --> 03:14.776\n所以我想請教一下為什麼我們現在總統也好總統府秘書長也好國安會秘書長也好可以如此的任性想不來就不來想來就來當作兒戲嗎我想請問一下總統當天說5月17號國政繁忙其實我有特別去查當天5月17號總統的行程總統府的公開行程\n\n03:18.659 --> 03:37.634\n事實上講沒有公開行程但是當天下午有公佈說總統有接見外賓啦那是上午的時間接下來我們看不到任何怎麼樣的國政繁忙難道賴總統他有跟川普通電話我們不知道嗎\n\n03:38.991 --> 03:53.685\n繁忙到像這個視壯運你也沒有任何公開行程啊你也沒有到哪裡去視察啊還是說真的有跟美國的政要川普通電話而我們不知道呢機密到我們不知道\n\n03:54.506 --> 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