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00:03:24,780\n包括就是說我們現在在推動的核心醫院專責醫院重點醫院跟所謂的合作的網絡以外幼兒專責醫師這裡面到底怎麼樣才能夠往健康的方向去推動然後那裡面包含了幼兒專責醫師譬如說我要去提醒就是像那個過胖或是氣喘控制這個比較簡單的以及額虐的部分大概在協助裡面都是透過我們優化兒童醫療網的成果來做政策的一個算是\n\n10\n00:03:25,961 --> 00:03:41,780\n調整謝謝市長我今天為什麼會問這樣的一個議題就是說我們國衛院這個兒童研究中心因為我們在網路上看到就是有關這個兒童醫療跟健康的政策那這個研究是在2019年\n\n11\n00:03:42,921 --> 00:03:59,798\n到現在也將近這個五六年的時間那另外我看到就是說在前天中山這個大學他有一個跨校合作的研究就是說夜市夜市營業場所產生的這個空氣污染物會滲透到鄰近家庭室內的這個環境\n\n12\n00:04:01,139 --> 00:04:15,004\n那對兒童的肺功能造成不良的影響那這個是一個中山大學一個跨校的一個合作那我也看到就是說我們這個國衛院兒童研究中心曾經也有針對\n\n13\n00:04:17,166 --> 00:04:40,704\n這個PM2.5就是說跟會造成我們兒童的這個一些影響或是說一般民眾的這個影響就是說在這個網路上面都有揭露啦那我為什麼會特別這樣講因為就是說我們這個這個國衛院的這個兒童研究中心在網站上面的這個資料其實我覺得真的是真的是\n\n14\n00:04:45,711 --> 00:05:01,012\n一直都沒有更新然後就是這個數字或者是說錯字也都沒有更新就掛在這個網路上也掛了五六年所以我想要知道就是說到底這個國衛院的兒童研究中心\n\n15\n00:05:02,133 --> 00:05:21,628\n應該是一個政策的提供對不對應該是一個政策的提供那如果他提供的這個資料是錯誤的或在網路上面的這個資料是錯誤的譬如說現在這個國衛院兒童研究中心網站上面一個新知專欄就針對就是說兒童的流感疫苗\n\n16\n00:05:22,329 --> 00:05:46,708\n打或不打爸媽好煩惱的這樣一個衛教內容那上面有寫說目前國內具有流感疫苗許可證的廠商計有總共有4家啦那我上面我就知道說那我們疾管署5月2號的這個新聞稿表示說國內取得三家流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有5家那如果說國會院是一個兒童研究中心是要讓我們\n\n17\n00:05:48,430 --> 00:06:11,124\n這個所有爸媽得到最新的訊息的話應該是要提供最新的資訊那為什麼所提供的這個資訊都不是最新的那另外就是說我剛剛有在那個上面有秀出一個就是說那個我們的這個PM2.5或者空氣有沒有就是那個PM2.5這個行政院環境保護數\n\n18\n00:06:13,545 --> 00:06:37,218\n這個這個也是在2015年這樣子一個這樣的一個錯誤的一個文字然後就掛在那邊也掛了這麼多年所以我都覺得說你們到底這個國家國衛院的兒童研究中心到底有沒有在做事或者是在網路上面的這個訊息錯誤然後也掛在那邊五六年然後完全都不更新的\n\n19\n00:06:40,607 --> 00:07:04,567\n我想如果有這樣的情況,我們當然要去了解,不曉得副院長有沒有要補充?謝謝委員的關心,我們虛心接受指教,這中間有一些落差,特別是跟其他部門之間的一致化,這個我們會立即做檢討我們當然希望國衛院的兒童研究中心、健康研究中心,應該是提供好的政策\n\n20\n00:07:05,948 --> 00:07:29,413\n當然我為什麼會一直這樣提我們希望就是說每個孩子都能夠得到一個好的照顧然後尤其是在現在少子化那我們當然說每個孩子都不能少那一定都要得到好的一個醫療照顧那如果說國衛院的一個政策或者是提供的資訊訊息都跟不上原本這個疾管署或者是跟不上\n\n21\n00:07:30,553 --> 00:07:51,749\n這樣子原本的這個其他部會的話其實我覺得這個應該是要好好再去檢討一下可能也要你們內部可能要再做一個檢討啦另外我想請教部長就是在上個月總諮詢的時候我有特別提到就是說兒童要有一個專責的行政單位那當時部長這邊也有特別提到就是說會你們這邊會去做研議\n\n22\n00:07:57,273 --> 00:08:02,548\n那我想請教就是說目前的進度到底是怎樣好我想謝謝\n\n23\n00:08:05,556 --> 00:08:33,165\n而校專者單位也是很多人的期望啦然後我想政府也非常的重視那所以但是這牽涉到蠻多人力組織的各種必須要去再去調整整合所以一直在努力的溝通中但是會往正面的正向的方向來做我想我們希望能夠很快的有一個\n\n24\n00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:51,727\n整個協調以後的成果那在這當中我們也不會輸入任何一個兒少需要照顧的一個各種項目然後這部分還是因為就是過去分散在幾乎以衛護部來講幾乎有八個司署在管道有管道兒童的\n\n25\n00:08:53,259 --> 00:09:19,064\n今天要去處理就是一個我們一直在克服的問題這八個都做得很好都有它特別的一個單位在項目上面請大家放心一定沒有一個會輸了的在兒童的成長過程當中絕對都有來負責現在如果要把它整理就是需要組織架構這個我們會一直在努力\n\n26\n00:09:19,504 --> 00:09:48,115\n那部長我希望說這個兒童要有一個專責的行政單位我覺得希望在你你能夠積極來推動因為不要讓所有的兒童的這個議題都散落在各部會另外就我剛剛有特別提到就是說國衛院的這個兒童健康研究中心他可能就是研究一個政策那臨床的部分臨床兒童的一個健康的研究中心其實現在台大醫院兒童醫院現在他們就有一個\n\n27\n00:09:49,156 --> 00:10:09,314\n這樣的一個這個中心那也希望說政府能夠支持那之前我在這邊也有特別提到就是說希望部長這邊我們衛福部這邊能夠支持那除了國衛院本身我們的一個政策的一個這個研究中心之外那臨床的部分是不是也要有一個\n\n28\n00:10:10,855 --> 00:10:35,797\n這樣子的一個健康醫療的研究中心讓所有的兒童醫院可以一起合作那臨床碰到什麼樣的這個疾病或者是這個臨床所有的醫師其實也可以一起共同經營一起合作所以讓每個孩子在這個醫療上都能夠得到一個好的救治醫治所以我是不是可以再請部長針對這一部分你可以再做一個回應\n\n29\n00:10:36,462 --> 00:11:01,569\n好我想台大醫院願意來承擔這個國家這樣子比較尤其集中男男症的一個研究個人深表敬佩那其實現在的研究資源是有限的所以如果能夠有一個比較專門的一個機構那對於兒少的一個研究應該是有更多的資源那這個部分的角色到底是屬於在研究呢\n\n30\n00:11:02,429 --> 00:11:28,530\n還是在臨床的應用呢這部分我們會再跟台大醫院來坐下來好好的來談一下他的方向以及說這個資源負責的部門是應該哪一個對他的這個發展他們想要的發展可以得到最好的幫忙讓他能夠真的是發展下去這樣子我們會跟台大醫院而醫醫院這邊來努力\n\n31\n00:11:30,011 --> 00:11:47,503\n部長你應該也知道就是說兒童醫院其實在所有的這個醫院當中大家會覺得是兒科的這部分其實是不會賺錢的那大家如果說願意付出然後也希望就是說因為讓孩子能夠得到一個好的醫治的話其實我覺得應該衛福部這邊應該要這個來支持\n\n32\n00:11:52,026 --> 00:12:15,040\n然後也要投入更多的資源因為真的少子化真的是很嚴重部長這個去年去年農年這個差不多13萬那我在想今年應該人數應該會更少新生兒人數應該會更少所以如果說願意生敢生然後已經生下來的這些孩子我們希望他都能夠平安健康的長大\n\n33\n00:12:16,041 --> 00:12:22,170\n所以我們希望就是說在這個醫療上面能夠讓所有的孩子所有的兒童都能夠得到好的一個醫治\n\n34\n00:12:22,844 --> 00:12:47,715\n好我想我們國家以及我們衛生的部門是全力往這方面來努力謝謝委員的指教這個絕對是我們日以繼夜在希望大家能改生生出來照顧好我上次已經有詢問過你了那你也這樣子就像你今天回答我的這樣子所以我們希望說要有一些進度啦譬如說這個兒童的專責單位或者是兒童的\n\n35\n00:12:48,736 --> 00:13:03,398\n這個台大醫院他們有一些臨床的這個兒童的醫療健康的研究中心類似這樣子的話我覺得應該是要有一些進度而不是你每次跟我講就是還要再討論或者是還要再跟他們討論或者還要再研究\n\n36\n00:13:04,483 --> 00:13:20,804\n兒童研究中心劉玉萍市長剛好出處那裡我補充一下跟委員報告一下進度就是大概在3月左右的時候我自己就帶同我們到台大兒童醫院這邊了解一下他們的需求\n\n37\n00:13:21,545 --> 00:13:45,640\n然後那如果只有臨床研究的部分的話需要參與的單位就變得是國科會也要一起進來支持嘛然後那他們跟我說他們想做的是健康以健康這邊來講的話其實我就說如果是台大兒童醫院沒有找公共衛生相關的學者其實在這一塊上面就沒有我們現在這樣的講的研究議題的廣度所以經過討論之後其實台大醫院就說\n\n38\n00:13:46,300 --> 00:14:03,826\n那他可能就是短期的這個計畫原本是由教育部提供的這個可能要再做延長然後那所以他們現在正在進行就是內部的一個程序因為光要把它從原來只有臨床的要擴展到健康的時候要去做的協作單位變多了\n\n39\n00:14:05,126 --> 00:14:22,232\n然後那是三月的時候的事情所以就是我們現在是在等台大同學醫院他們就是有一個內部的公司之後需要再做協作的時候我們跟他們其實有保持良好的聯繫管道我們希望能夠有一些進度啦好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5512\t24999\t謝謝主席,我們請部長好請部長我提醒部長還有國務部的相關的官員這個法定的社會預算不會因為一般性的補助款有所變動去影響到任何該支付的法定的社會福利預算這個要很明確的表達清楚好不好好謝謝\n28681\t40026\t謝謝主席 部長我想請教我看到國會院兒童醫學及健康研究中心一些相關資料在2019年有提出一個報告就是2030年兒童醫療與健康政策建言書\n50049\t78563\t那部長你大約知道這樣的一個就是有關兒童醫療健康的一個研究那我想請教就是說這個5年來因為它是2019年5月提出來的那這份成果我們在網路上看到那除了這份有這樣的一個研究報告之外那還有其他針對兒童健康的研究還有其他的這種研究報告嗎\n81127\t88981\t就是兒童醫學及健康研究中心國衛院的國衛院今天有人來嗎有有有 副院長\n90920\t110436\t追訓的過程當中我當然是也有參與提出的建言我想我們也都有用各種方式在努力我想請教2019年到現在兒童醫療跟健康的政策\n112615\t136454\t除了這一份之外,還有其他份嗎?還是就只有這一份,從2019到現在也5年多的時間?國會院裡面的有兒童醫學及健康研究中心這是我們群體健康研究所,他們主導的一個研究中心那還有其他的研究嗎?針對兒童健康,針對兒童醫療,就只有這一份\n138343\t146670\t那我想請教就是說這個我們國衛院底下這個兒童醫學及健康研究中心平常是在做什麼這個\n154110\t174940\t我這邊補充一下就是那個兒童健康運動中心有一部分的成員現在大部分至少有一半以上的時間是協助我們做優化兒童醫療網裡面的所謂的食物的運轉中心的一個管理中心然後這個管理中心其實是透過協助我們推動兒童醫療網裡面做一些我們政策這邊的一個回饋\n175660\t204780\t包括就是說我們現在在推動的核心醫院專責醫院重點醫院跟所謂的合作的網絡以外幼兒專責醫師這裡面到底怎麼樣才能夠往健康的方向去推動然後那裡面包含了幼兒專責醫師譬如說我要去提醒就是像那個過胖或是氣喘控制這個比較簡單的以及額虐的部分大概在協助裡面都是透過我們優化兒童醫療網的成果來做政策的一個算是\n205961\t221780\t調整謝謝市長我今天為什麼會問這樣的一個議題就是說我們國衛院這個兒童研究中心因為我們在網路上看到就是有關這個兒童醫療跟健康的政策那這個研究是在2019年\n222921\t239798\t到現在也將近這個五六年的時間那另外我看到就是說在前天中山這個大學他有一個跨校合作的研究就是說夜市夜市營業場所產生的這個空氣污染物會滲透到鄰近家庭室內的這個環境\n241139\t255004\t那對兒童的肺功能造成不良的影響那這個是一個中山大學一個跨校的一個合作那我也看到就是說我們這個國衛院兒童研究中心曾經也有針對\n257166\t280704\t這個PM2.5就是說跟會造成我們兒童的這個一些影響或是說一般民眾的這個影響就是說在這個網路上面都有揭露啦那我為什麼會特別這樣講因為就是說我們這個這個國衛院的這個兒童研究中心在網站上面的這個資料其實我覺得真的是真的是\n285711\t301012\t一直都沒有更新然後就是這個數字或者是說錯字也都沒有更新就掛在這個網路上也掛了五六年所以我想要知道就是說到底這個國衛院的兒童研究中心\n302133\t321628\t應該是一個政策的提供對不對應該是一個政策的提供那如果他提供的這個資料是錯誤的或在網路上面的這個資料是錯誤的譬如說現在這個國衛院兒童研究中心網站上面一個新知專欄就針對就是說兒童的流感疫苗\n322329\t346708\t打或不打爸媽好煩惱的這樣一個衛教內容那上面有寫說目前國內具有流感疫苗許可證的廠商計有總共有4家啦那我上面我就知道說那我們疾管署5月2號的這個新聞稿表示說國內取得三家流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有5家那如果說國會院是一個兒童研究中心是要讓我們\n348430\t371124\t這個所有爸媽得到最新的訊息的話應該是要提供最新的資訊那為什麼所提供的這個資訊都不是最新的那另外就是說我剛剛有在那個上面有秀出一個就是說那個我們的這個PM2.5或者空氣有沒有就是那個PM2.5這個行政院環境保護數\n373545\t397218\t這個這個也是在2015年這樣子一個這樣的一個錯誤的一個文字然後就掛在那邊也掛了這麼多年所以我都覺得說你們到底這個國家國衛院的兒童研究中心到底有沒有在做事或者是在網路上面的這個訊息錯誤然後也掛在那邊五六年然後完全都不更新的\n400607\t424567\t我想如果有這樣的情況,我們當然要去了解,不曉得副院長有沒有要補充?謝謝委員的關心,我們虛心接受指教,這中間有一些落差,特別是跟其他部門之間的一致化,這個我們會立即做檢討我們當然希望國衛院的兒童研究中心、健康研究中心,應該是提供好的政策\n425948\t449413\t當然我為什麼會一直這樣提我們希望就是說每個孩子都能夠得到一個好的照顧然後尤其是在現在少子化那我們當然說每個孩子都不能少那一定都要得到好的一個醫療照顧那如果說國衛院的一個政策或者是提供的資訊訊息都跟不上原本這個疾管署或者是跟不上\n450553\t471749\t這樣子原本的這個其他部會的話其實我覺得這個應該是要好好再去檢討一下可能也要你們內部可能要再做一個檢討啦另外我想請教部長就是在上個月總諮詢的時候我有特別提到就是說兒童要有一個專責的行政單位那當時部長這邊也有特別提到就是說會你們這邊會去做研議\n477273\t482548\t那我想請教就是說目前的進度到底是怎樣好我想謝謝\n485556\t513165\t而校專者單位也是很多人的期望啦然後我想政府也非常的重視那所以但是這牽涉到蠻多人力組織的各種必須要去再去調整整合所以一直在努力的溝通中但是會往正面的正向的方向來做我想我們希望能夠很快的有一個\n514125\t531727\t整個協調以後的成果那在這當中我們也不會輸入任何一個兒少需要照顧的一個各種項目然後這部分還是因為就是過去分散在幾乎以衛護部來講幾乎有八個司署在管道有管道兒童的\n533259\t559064\t今天要去處理就是一個我們一直在克服的問題這八個都做得很好都有它特別的一個單位在項目上面請大家放心一定沒有一個會輸了的在兒童的成長過程當中絕對都有來負責現在如果要把它整理就是需要組織架構這個我們會一直在努力\n559504\t588115\t那部長我希望說這個兒童要有一個專責的行政單位我覺得希望在你你能夠積極來推動因為不要讓所有的兒童的這個議題都散落在各部會另外就我剛剛有特別提到就是說國衛院的這個兒童健康研究中心他可能就是研究一個政策那臨床的部分臨床兒童的一個健康的研究中心其實現在台大醫院兒童醫院現在他們就有一個\n589156\t609314\t這樣的一個這個中心那也希望說政府能夠支持那之前我在這邊也有特別提到就是說希望部長這邊我們衛福部這邊能夠支持那除了國衛院本身我們的一個政策的一個這個研究中心之外那臨床的部分是不是也要有一個\n610855\t635797\t這樣子的一個健康醫療的研究中心讓所有的兒童醫院可以一起合作那臨床碰到什麼樣的這個疾病或者是這個臨床所有的醫師其實也可以一起共同經營一起合作所以讓每個孩子在這個醫療上都能夠得到一個好的救治醫治所以我是不是可以再請部長針對這一部分你可以再做一個回應\n636462\t661569\t好我想台大醫院願意來承擔這個國家這樣子比較尤其集中男男症的一個研究個人深表敬佩那其實現在的研究資源是有限的所以如果能夠有一個比較專門的一個機構那對於兒少的一個研究應該是有更多的資源那這個部分的角色到底是屬於在研究呢\n662429\t688530\t還是在臨床的應用呢這部分我們會再跟台大醫院來坐下來好好的來談一下他的方向以及說這個資源負責的部門是應該哪一個對他的這個發展他們想要的發展可以得到最好的幫忙讓他能夠真的是發展下去這樣子我們會跟台大醫院而醫醫院這邊來努力\n690011\t707503\t部長你應該也知道就是說兒童醫院其實在所有的這個醫院當中大家會覺得是兒科的這部分其實是不會賺錢的那大家如果說願意付出然後也希望就是說因為讓孩子能夠得到一個好的醫治的話其實我覺得應該衛福部這邊應該要這個來支持\n712026\t735040\t然後也要投入更多的資源因為真的少子化真的是很嚴重部長這個去年去年農年這個差不多13萬那我在想今年應該人數應該會更少新生兒人數應該會更少所以如果說願意生敢生然後已經生下來的這些孩子我們希望他都能夠平安健康的長大\n736041\t742170\t所以我們希望就是說在這個醫療上面能夠讓所有的孩子所有的兒童都能夠得到好的一個醫治\n742844\t767715\t好我想我們國家以及我們衛生的部門是全力往這方面來努力謝謝委員的指教這個絕對是我們日以繼夜在希望大家能改生生出來照顧好我上次已經有詢問過你了那你也這樣子就像你今天回答我的這樣子所以我們希望說要有一些進度啦譬如說這個兒童的專責單位或者是兒童的\n768736\t783398\t這個台大醫院他們有一些臨床的這個兒童的醫療健康的研究中心類似這樣子的話我覺得應該是要有一些進度而不是你每次跟我講就是還要再討論或者是還要再跟他們討論或者還要再研究\n784483\t800804\t兒童研究中心劉玉萍市長剛好出處那裡我補充一下跟委員報告一下進度就是大概在3月左右的時候我自己就帶同我們到台大兒童醫院這邊了解一下他們的需求\n801545\t825640\t然後那如果只有臨床研究的部分的話需要參與的單位就變得是國科會也要一起進來支持嘛然後那他們跟我說他們想做的是健康以健康這邊來講的話其實我就說如果是台大兒童醫院沒有找公共衛生相關的學者其實在這一塊上面就沒有我們現在這樣的講的研究議題的廣度所以經過討論之後其實台大醫院就說\n826300\t843826\t那他可能就是短期的這個計畫原本是由教育部提供的這個可能要再做延長然後那所以他們現在正在進行就是內部的一個程序因為光要把它從原來只有臨床的要擴展到健康的時候要去做的協作單位變多了\n845126\t862232\t然後那是三月的時候的事情所以就是我們現在是在等台大同學醫院他們就是有一個內部的公司之後需要再做協作的時候我們跟他們其實有保持良好的聯繫管道我們希望能夠有一些進度啦好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我們請部長好請部長我提醒部長還有國務部的相關的官員這個法定的社會預算不會因為一般性的補助款有所變動去影響到任何該支付的法定的社會福利預算這個要很明確的表達清楚好不好好謝謝\n謝謝主席 部長我想請教我看到國會院兒童醫學及健康研究中心一些相關資料在2019年有提出一個報告就是2030年兒童醫療與健康政策建言書\n那部長你大約知道這樣的一個就是有關兒童醫療健康的一個研究那我想請教就是說這個5年來因為它是2019年5月提出來的那這份成果我們在網路上看到那除了這份有這樣的一個研究報告之外那還有其他針對兒童健康的研究還有其他的這種研究報告嗎\n就是兒童醫學及健康研究中心國衛院的國衛院今天有人來嗎有有有 副院長\n追訓的過程當中我當然是也有參與提出的建言我想我們也都有用各種方式在努力我想請教2019年到現在兒童醫療跟健康的政策\n除了這一份之外,還有其他份嗎?還是就只有這一份,從2019到現在也5年多的時間?國會院裡面的有兒童醫學及健康研究中心這是我們群體健康研究所,他們主導的一個研究中心那還有其他的研究嗎?針對兒童健康,針對兒童醫療,就只有這一份\n那我想請教就是說這個我們國衛院底下這個兒童醫學及健康研究中心平常是在做什麼這個\n我這邊補充一下就是那個兒童健康運動中心有一部分的成員現在大部分至少有一半以上的時間是協助我們做優化兒童醫療網裡面的所謂的食物的運轉中心的一個管理中心然後這個管理中心其實是透過協助我們推動兒童醫療網裡面做一些我們政策這邊的一個回饋\n包括就是說我們現在在推動的核心醫院專責醫院重點醫院跟所謂的合作的網絡以外幼兒專責醫師這裡面到底怎麼樣才能夠往健康的方向去推動然後那裡面包含了幼兒專責醫師譬如說我要去提醒就是像那個過胖或是氣喘控制這個比較簡單的以及額虐的部分大概在協助裡面都是透過我們優化兒童醫療網的成果來做政策的一個算是\n調整謝謝市長我今天為什麼會問這樣的一個議題就是說我們國衛院這個兒童研究中心因為我們在網路上看到就是有關這個兒童醫療跟健康的政策那這個研究是在2019年\n到現在也將近這個五六年的時間那另外我看到就是說在前天中山這個大學他有一個跨校合作的研究就是說夜市夜市營業場所產生的這個空氣污染物會滲透到鄰近家庭室內的這個環境\n那對兒童的肺功能造成不良的影響那這個是一個中山大學一個跨校的一個合作那我也看到就是說我們這個國衛院兒童研究中心曾經也有針對\n這個PM2.5就是說跟會造成我們兒童的這個一些影響或是說一般民眾的這個影響就是說在這個網路上面都有揭露啦那我為什麼會特別這樣講因為就是說我們這個這個國衛院的這個兒童研究中心在網站上面的這個資料其實我覺得真的是真的是\n一直都沒有更新然後就是這個數字或者是說錯字也都沒有更新就掛在這個網路上也掛了五六年所以我想要知道就是說到底這個國衛院的兒童研究中心\n應該是一個政策的提供對不對應該是一個政策的提供那如果他提供的這個資料是錯誤的或在網路上面的這個資料是錯誤的譬如說現在這個國衛院兒童研究中心網站上面一個新知專欄就針對就是說兒童的流感疫苗\n打或不打爸媽好煩惱的這樣一個衛教內容那上面有寫說目前國內具有流感疫苗許可證的廠商計有總共有4家啦那我上面我就知道說那我們疾管署5月2號的這個新聞稿表示說國內取得三家流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有5家那如果說國會院是一個兒童研究中心是要讓我們\n這個所有爸媽得到最新的訊息的話應該是要提供最新的資訊那為什麼所提供的這個資訊都不是最新的那另外就是說我剛剛有在那個上面有秀出一個就是說那個我們的這個PM2.5或者空氣有沒有就是那個PM2.5這個行政院環境保護數\n這個這個也是在2015年這樣子一個這樣的一個錯誤的一個文字然後就掛在那邊也掛了這麼多年所以我都覺得說你們到底這個國家國衛院的兒童研究中心到底有沒有在做事或者是在網路上面的這個訊息錯誤然後也掛在那邊五六年然後完全都不更新的\n我想如果有這樣的情況,我們當然要去了解,不曉得副院長有沒有要補充?謝謝委員的關心,我們虛心接受指教,這中間有一些落差,特別是跟其他部門之間的一致化,這個我們會立即做檢討我們當然希望國衛院的兒童研究中心、健康研究中心,應該是提供好的政策\n當然我為什麼會一直這樣提我們希望就是說每個孩子都能夠得到一個好的照顧然後尤其是在現在少子化那我們當然說每個孩子都不能少那一定都要得到好的一個醫療照顧那如果說國衛院的一個政策或者是提供的資訊訊息都跟不上原本這個疾管署或者是跟不上\n這樣子原本的這個其他部會的話其實我覺得這個應該是要好好再去檢討一下可能也要你們內部可能要再做一個檢討啦另外我想請教部長就是在上個月總諮詢的時候我有特別提到就是說兒童要有一個專責的行政單位那當時部長這邊也有特別提到就是說會你們這邊會去做研議\n那我想請教就是說目前的進度到底是怎樣好我想謝謝\n而校專者單位也是很多人的期望啦然後我想政府也非常的重視那所以但是這牽涉到蠻多人力組織的各種必須要去再去調整整合所以一直在努力的溝通中但是會往正面的正向的方向來做我想我們希望能夠很快的有一個\n整個協調以後的成果那在這當中我們也不會輸入任何一個兒少需要照顧的一個各種項目然後這部分還是因為就是過去分散在幾乎以衛護部來講幾乎有八個司署在管道有管道兒童的\n今天要去處理就是一個我們一直在克服的問題這八個都做得很好都有它特別的一個單位在項目上面請大家放心一定沒有一個會輸了的在兒童的成長過程當中絕對都有來負責現在如果要把它整理就是需要組織架構這個我們會一直在努力\n那部長我希望說這個兒童要有一個專責的行政單位我覺得希望在你你能夠積極來推動因為不要讓所有的兒童的這個議題都散落在各部會另外就我剛剛有特別提到就是說國衛院的這個兒童健康研究中心他可能就是研究一個政策那臨床的部分臨床兒童的一個健康的研究中心其實現在台大醫院兒童醫院現在他們就有一個\n這樣的一個這個中心那也希望說政府能夠支持那之前我在這邊也有特別提到就是說希望部長這邊我們衛福部這邊能夠支持那除了國衛院本身我們的一個政策的一個這個研究中心之外那臨床的部分是不是也要有一個\n這樣子的一個健康醫療的研究中心讓所有的兒童醫院可以一起合作那臨床碰到什麼樣的這個疾病或者是這個臨床所有的醫師其實也可以一起共同經營一起合作所以讓每個孩子在這個醫療上都能夠得到一個好的救治醫治所以我是不是可以再請部長針對這一部分你可以再做一個回應\n好我想台大醫院願意來承擔這個國家這樣子比較尤其集中男男症的一個研究個人深表敬佩那其實現在的研究資源是有限的所以如果能夠有一個比較專門的一個機構那對於兒少的一個研究應該是有更多的資源那這個部分的角色到底是屬於在研究呢\n還是在臨床的應用呢這部分我們會再跟台大醫院來坐下來好好的來談一下他的方向以及說這個資源負責的部門是應該哪一個對他的這個發展他們想要的發展可以得到最好的幫忙讓他能夠真的是發展下去這樣子我們會跟台大醫院而醫醫院這邊來努力\n部長你應該也知道就是說兒童醫院其實在所有的這個醫院當中大家會覺得是兒科的這部分其實是不會賺錢的那大家如果說願意付出然後也希望就是說因為讓孩子能夠得到一個好的醫治的話其實我覺得應該衛福部這邊應該要這個來支持\n然後也要投入更多的資源因為真的少子化真的是很嚴重部長這個去年去年農年這個差不多13萬那我在想今年應該人數應該會更少新生兒人數應該會更少所以如果說願意生敢生然後已經生下來的這些孩子我們希望他都能夠平安健康的長大\n所以我們希望就是說在這個醫療上面能夠讓所有的孩子所有的兒童都能夠得到好的一個醫治\n好我想我們國家以及我們衛生的部門是全力往這方面來努力謝謝委員的指教這個絕對是我們日以繼夜在希望大家能改生生出來照顧好我上次已經有詢問過你了那你也這樣子就像你今天回答我的這樣子所以我們希望說要有一些進度啦譬如說這個兒童的專責單位或者是兒童的\n這個台大醫院他們有一些臨床的這個兒童的醫療健康的研究中心類似這樣子的話我覺得應該是要有一些進度而不是你每次跟我講就是還要再討論或者是還要再跟他們討論或者還要再研究\n兒童研究中心劉玉萍市長剛好出處那裡我補充一下跟委員報告一下進度就是大概在3月左右的時候我自己就帶同我們到台大兒童醫院這邊了解一下他們的需求\n然後那如果只有臨床研究的部分的話需要參與的單位就變得是國科會也要一起進來支持嘛然後那他們跟我說他們想做的是健康以健康這邊來講的話其實我就說如果是台大兒童醫院沒有找公共衛生相關的學者其實在這一塊上面就沒有我們現在這樣的講的研究議題的廣度所以經過討論之後其實台大醫院就說\n那他可能就是短期的這個計畫原本是由教育部提供的這個可能要再做延長然後那所以他們現在正在進行就是內部的一個程序因為光要把它從原來只有臨床的要擴展到健康的時候要去做的協作單位變多了\n然後那是三月的時候的事情所以就是我們現在是在等台大同學醫院他們就是有一個內部的公司之後需要再做協作的時候我們跟他們其實有保持良好的聯繫管道我們希望能夠有一些進度啦好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.512 --> 00:24.999\n謝謝主席,我們請部長好請部長我提醒部長還有國務部的相關的官員這個法定的社會預算不會因為一般性的補助款有所變動去影響到任何該支付的法定的社會福利預算這個要很明確的表達清楚好不好好謝謝\n\n00:28.681 --> 00:40.026\n謝謝主席部長我想請教我看到國會院兒童醫學及健康研究中心一些相關資料在2019年有提出一個報告就是2030年兒童醫療與健康政策建言書\n\n00:50.049 --> 01:18.563\n那部長你大約知道這樣的一個就是有關兒童醫療健康的一個研究那我想請教就是說這個5年來因為它是2019年5月提出來的那這份成果我們在網路上看到那除了這份有這樣的一個研究報告之外那還有其他針對兒童健康的研究還有其他的這種研究報告嗎\n\n01:21.127 --> 01:28.981\n就是兒童醫學及健康研究中心國衛院的國衛院今天有人來嗎有有有副院長\n\n01:30.920 --> 01:50.436\n追訓的過程當中我當然是也有參與提出的建言我想我們也都有用各種方式在努力我想請教2019年到現在兒童醫療跟健康的政策\n\n01:52.615 --> 02:16.454\n除了這一份之外,還有其他份嗎?還是就只有這一份,從2019到現在也5年多的時間?國會院裡面的有兒童醫學及健康研究中心這是我們群體健康研究所,他們主導的一個研究中心那還有其他的研究嗎?針對兒童健康,針對兒童醫療,就只有這一份\n\n02:18.343 --> 02:26.670\n那我想請教就是說這個我們國衛院底下這個兒童醫學及健康研究中心平常是在做什麼這個\n\n02:34.110 --> 02:54.940\n我這邊補充一下就是那個兒童健康運動中心有一部分的成員現在大部分至少有一半以上的時間是協助我們做優化兒童醫療網裡面的所謂的食物的運轉中心的一個管理中心然後這個管理中心其實是透過協助我們推動兒童醫療網裡面做一些我們政策這邊的一個回饋\n\n02:55.660 --> 03:24.780\n包括就是說我們現在在推動的核心醫院專責醫院重點醫院跟所謂的合作的網絡以外幼兒專責醫師這裡面到底怎麼樣才能夠往健康的方向去推動然後那裡面包含了幼兒專責醫師譬如說我要去提醒就是像那個過胖或是氣喘控制這個比較簡單的以及額虐的部分大概在協助裡面都是透過我們優化兒童醫療網的成果來做政策的一個算是\n\n03:25.961 --> 03:41.780\n調整謝謝市長我今天為什麼會問這樣的一個議題就是說我們國衛院這個兒童研究中心因為我們在網路上看到就是有關這個兒童醫療跟健康的政策那這個研究是在2019年\n\n03:42.921 --> 03:59.798\n到現在也將近這個五六年的時間那另外我看到就是說在前天中山這個大學他有一個跨校合作的研究就是說夜市夜市營業場所產生的這個空氣污染物會滲透到鄰近家庭室內的這個環境\n\n04:01.139 --> 04:15.004\n那對兒童的肺功能造成不良的影響那這個是一個中山大學一個跨校的一個合作那我也看到就是說我們這個國衛院兒童研究中心曾經也有針對\n\n04:17.166 --> 04:40.704\n這個PM2.5就是說跟會造成我們兒童的這個一些影響或是說一般民眾的這個影響就是說在這個網路上面都有揭露啦那我為什麼會特別這樣講因為就是說我們這個這個國衛院的這個兒童研究中心在網站上面的這個資料其實我覺得真的是真的是\n\n04:45.711 --> 05:01.012\n一直都沒有更新然後就是這個數字或者是說錯字也都沒有更新就掛在這個網路上也掛了五六年所以我想要知道就是說到底這個國衛院的兒童研究中心\n\n05:02.133 --> 05:21.628\n應該是一個政策的提供對不對應該是一個政策的提供那如果他提供的這個資料是錯誤的或在網路上面的這個資料是錯誤的譬如說現在這個國衛院兒童研究中心網站上面一個新知專欄就針對就是說兒童的流感疫苗\n\n05:22.329 --> 05:46.708\n打或不打爸媽好煩惱的這樣一個衛教內容那上面有寫說目前國內具有流感疫苗許可證的廠商計有總共有4家啦那我上面我就知道說那我們疾管署5月2號的這個新聞稿表示說國內取得三家流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有5家那如果說國會院是一個兒童研究中心是要讓我們\n\n05:48.430 --> 06:11.124\n這個所有爸媽得到最新的訊息的話應該是要提供最新的資訊那為什麼所提供的這個資訊都不是最新的那另外就是說我剛剛有在那個上面有秀出一個就是說那個我們的這個PM2.5或者空氣有沒有就是那個PM2.5這個行政院環境保護數\n\n06:13.545 --> 06:37.218\n這個這個也是在2015年這樣子一個這樣的一個錯誤的一個文字然後就掛在那邊也掛了這麼多年所以我都覺得說你們到底這個國家國衛院的兒童研究中心到底有沒有在做事或者是在網路上面的這個訊息錯誤然後也掛在那邊五六年然後完全都不更新的\n\n06:40.607 --> 07:04.567\n我想如果有這樣的情況,我們當然要去了解,不曉得副院長有沒有要補充?謝謝委員的關心,我們虛心接受指教,這中間有一些落差,特別是跟其他部門之間的一致化,這個我們會立即做檢討我們當然希望國衛院的兒童研究中心、健康研究中心,應該是提供好的政策\n\n07:05.948 --> 07:29.413\n當然我為什麼會一直這樣提我們希望就是說每個孩子都能夠得到一個好的照顧然後尤其是在現在少子化那我們當然說每個孩子都不能少那一定都要得到好的一個醫療照顧那如果說國衛院的一個政策或者是提供的資訊訊息都跟不上原本這個疾管署或者是跟不上\n\n07:30.553 --> 07:51.749\n這樣子原本的這個其他部會的話其實我覺得這個應該是要好好再去檢討一下可能也要你們內部可能要再做一個檢討啦另外我想請教部長就是在上個月總諮詢的時候我有特別提到就是說兒童要有一個專責的行政單位那當時部長這邊也有特別提到就是說會你們這邊會去做研議\n\n07:57.273 --> 08:02.548\n那我想請教就是說目前的進度到底是怎樣好我想謝謝\n\n08:05.556 --> 08:33.165\n而校專者單位也是很多人的期望啦然後我想政府也非常的重視那所以但是這牽涉到蠻多人力組織的各種必須要去再去調整整合所以一直在努力的溝通中但是會往正面的正向的方向來做我想我們希望能夠很快的有一個\n\n08:34.125 --> 08:51.727\n整個協調以後的成果那在這當中我們也不會輸入任何一個兒少需要照顧的一個各種項目然後這部分還是因為就是過去分散在幾乎以衛護部來講幾乎有八個司署在管道有管道兒童的\n\n08:53.259 --> 09:19.064\n今天要去處理就是一個我們一直在克服的問題這八個都做得很好都有它特別的一個單位在項目上面請大家放心一定沒有一個會輸了的在兒童的成長過程當中絕對都有來負責現在如果要把它整理就是需要組織架構這個我們會一直在努力\n\n09:19.504 --> 09:48.115\n那部長我希望說這個兒童要有一個專責的行政單位我覺得希望在你你能夠積極來推動因為不要讓所有的兒童的這個議題都散落在各部會另外就我剛剛有特別提到就是說國衛院的這個兒童健康研究中心他可能就是研究一個政策那臨床的部分臨床兒童的一個健康的研究中心其實現在台大醫院兒童醫院現在他們就有一個\n\n09:49.156 --> 10:09.314\n這樣的一個這個中心那也希望說政府能夠支持那之前我在這邊也有特別提到就是說希望部長這邊我們衛福部這邊能夠支持那除了國衛院本身我們的一個政策的一個這個研究中心之外那臨床的部分是不是也要有一個\n\n10:10.855 --> 10:35.797\n這樣子的一個健康醫療的研究中心讓所有的兒童醫院可以一起合作那臨床碰到什麼樣的這個疾病或者是這個臨床所有的醫師其實也可以一起共同經營一起合作所以讓每個孩子在這個醫療上都能夠得到一個好的救治醫治所以我是不是可以再請部長針對這一部分你可以再做一個回應\n\n10:36.462 --> 11:01.569\n好我想台大醫院願意來承擔這個國家這樣子比較尤其集中男男症的一個研究個人深表敬佩那其實現在的研究資源是有限的所以如果能夠有一個比較專門的一個機構那對於兒少的一個研究應該是有更多的資源那這個部分的角色到底是屬於在研究呢\n\n11:02.429 --> 11:28.530\n還是在臨床的應用呢這部分我們會再跟台大醫院來坐下來好好的來談一下他的方向以及說這個資源負責的部門是應該哪一個對他的這個發展他們想要的發展可以得到最好的幫忙讓他能夠真的是發展下去這樣子我們會跟台大醫院而醫醫院這邊來努力\n\n11:30.011 --> 11:47.503\n部長你應該也知道就是說兒童醫院其實在所有的這個醫院當中大家會覺得是兒科的這部分其實是不會賺錢的那大家如果說願意付出然後也希望就是說因為讓孩子能夠得到一個好的醫治的話其實我覺得應該衛福部這邊應該要這個來支持\n\n11:52.026 --> 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言書，部長大約知道這是有關兒童醫療健康的一個研究，因為它是2019年5月提出來的成果，請問這五年來，我們在網路上看到的，除了這份研究報告之外，還有其他針對兒童健康的研究報告嗎？就是國衛院的兒童醫學及健康研究中心。國衛院，今天有人來嗎？"],["邱部長泰源：有，副院長有來。在這一份的過程當中，我當然是也有參與；所提出的建言，我們也都有用各種方式在努力。"],["黃委員秀芳：我想請教的是，從2019年到現在，兒童醫療跟健康的這個政策研究，除了這一份報告之外，還有其他份嗎？還是就只有這一份？從2019到現在，也有五年多的時間。"],["邱部長泰源：國衛院裡面有兒童醫學及健康研究中心。"],["許副院長惠桓：報告委員，這是我們群體健康研究所邱弘毅所長他們所主導的一個研究中心。"],["黃委員秀芳：我知道，針對兒童健康、兒童醫療，還有其他的研究嗎？還是就只有這一份？我想請教，國衛院底下這個兒童醫學及健康研究中心平常是在做什麼？"],["邱部長泰源：請劉司長說明。"],["劉司長越萍：我這邊補充一下，兒童健康研究中心有一部分的成員，現在至少有一半以上的時間，是在協助我們做優化兒童醫療網裡面實務運轉的一個管理中心，這個管理中心其實是協助我們推動兒童醫療網，做一些政策的回饋，包括我們現在推動的核心醫院、專責醫院、重點醫院，跟合作網絡以外的幼兒專責醫師，到底怎麼樣才能夠往健康的方向去推動；然後那裡面包含了幼兒專責醫師，譬如我們要去提醒像過胖或是氣喘控制這個是比較簡單的，以及兒虐的部分。大概在協助裡面，都是透過我們優化兒童醫療網的成果來做政策的一個調整。"],["黃委員秀芳：謝謝司長，我今天會問這樣一個議題，是因為我們在網路上看到國衛院兒童研究中心，有關兒童醫療跟健康政策的這個研究是在2019年，到現在也將近五、六年的時間。另外我在前天看到中山大學有一個跨校合作的研究，即：夜市營業場所產生的空氣污染物，會滲透到鄰近家庭室內的環境，對兒童的肺功能造成不良的影響，這個是中山大學的一個跨校合作。同時我也看到國衛院兒童研究中心曾針對PM2.5會對兒童或是一般民眾造成影響，這些在網路上面都有揭露。我為什麼會特別這樣講，是因為國衛院兒童研究中心在網站上面的資料，真的是一直都沒有更新，裡面的數字或是錯字，也都沒有更新，在這個網路上也掛了五、六年！所以我想要知道，國衛院的兒童研究中心，應該是政策的提供，對不對？如果它提供的資料是錯誤的，或在網路上面的這個資料是錯誤的，譬如國衛院兒童研究中心網站上面的一個新知專欄，就針對兒童的流感疫苗打或不打，爸媽好煩惱這樣一個衛教內容，上面寫著目前國內具有流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有四家，可是疾管署5月2日的新聞稿表示，國內取得三價流感疫苗許可證的廠商總共有五家。如果國衛院的兒童研究中心是要讓所有爸媽得到最新訊息的話，應該是要提供最新的資訊，為什麼所提供的資訊都不是最新的？","另外就是我剛剛秀出空氣中的PM2.5資料──行政院環境保護署2015年，這樣一個錯誤的文字，然後就掛在那邊這麼多年。所以，國衛院的兒童研究中心到底有沒有在做事？在網路上面的訊息錯誤，也掛在那邊五、六年，完全都不更新的！"],["邱部長泰源：我想，如果有這樣的情況，我們當然要去了解，不曉得副院長有沒有要補充報告？"],["許副院長惠桓：謝謝委員關心，我們虛心接受指教。這中間有一些落差，特別是跟其他部門之間的一致化，我們回去會立即做檢討。"],["黃委員秀芳：我們希望國衛院的兒童健康研究中心，應該是提供好的政策；我為什麼會一直這樣提，就是希望每個孩子都能夠得到好的照顧，尤其現在少子化，每個孩子都不能少，一定都要得到一個好的醫療照顧，如果國衛院的政策或是提供的資訊、訊息，都跟不上原本的這個疾管署或其他部會的話，我覺得這個應該要好好再去檢討一下，你們內部可能要再做一個檢討。","另外，我想請教部長，上個月在總質詢的時候，我有特別提到兒童要有一個專責的行政單位，部長當時也說你們這邊會去做研議，請問目前的進度到底怎樣？"],["邱部長泰源：謝謝委員，兒少專責單位是很多人的期望，政府也非常的重視，但這牽涉到各種滿多的人力組織，必須再去調整整合，我們一直都在努力溝通中，也會往正面的方向來做。我們希望能夠很快有一個協調後的成果，在這當中，我們也不會疏漏任何兒少需要照顧的各種項目，這個部分因為過去比較分散，以衛福部來講，幾乎有八個司署都有管到兒童的部分，這部分要如何處理，就是我們現在一直在克服的問題。這八個部門都做得很好，都有它特別的一個單位，請大家放心，在項目上面，一定沒有一個會去疏漏的，在兒童成長過程當中，絕對都有負責到。現在如果要把它整合，那個就需要有組織架構，這個我們會一起來努力。"],["黃委員秀芳：好，部長，兒童要有一個專責的行政單位，我希望你能夠積極來推動，不要讓兒童的議題散落在各部會。","另外，我剛剛有特別提到，國衛院的兒童健康研究中心它可能就是研究一個政策，在臨床的部分，一個兒童的健康研究中心，其實現在臺大兒童醫院他們就有一個這樣的中心，也希望政府能夠支持。"],["邱部長泰源：是。"],["黃委員秀芳：之前我在這邊也有特別提到，希望衛福部這邊能夠支持，除了國衛院本身的一個政策研究中心之外，臨床的部分是不是也要有一個健康醫療的研究中心？讓所有的兒童醫院可以一起合作，臨床碰到什麼樣的疾病，或者是臨床所有的醫師也可以一起共同經營，一起合作，讓每個孩子在醫療上都能夠得到好的救治、醫治，是不是可以請部長針對這部分再做一個回應？"],["邱部長泰源：好，我想臺大醫院願意來承擔國家這樣的一個急重難罕症的研究，個人深表敬佩，其實現在的研究資源是有限的，所以如果能夠有一個比較專門的機構，對於兒少的研究應該是有更多的資源。至於這個部分的角色到底是屬於研究還是臨床的應用，我們會再跟臺大醫院坐下來好好談一下它的方向，以及這個資源負責的部門應該是哪一個，讓他們想要的發展可以得到最好的幫忙，讓他們真的能夠發展下去，我們會跟臺大醫院、兒童醫院這邊來努力。"],["黃委員秀芳：部長，你應該也知道，兒童醫院在所有的醫院當中，大家會覺得兒科的部分其實是不會賺錢的啦！所以大家如果願意付出，也希望讓孩子能夠得到好的醫治的話，我覺得衛福部這邊應該要來支持，也要投入更多的資源，因為少子化真的是很嚴重哦！部長，去年龍年差不多有13萬新生兒，我想今年的新生兒人數應該會更少，所以如果願意生、敢生，然後已經生下來的這些孩子，我們希望他能夠平安健康地長大，在醫療上面讓所有的兒童都能夠得到好的醫治。"],["邱部長泰源：好，我想我們國家以及衛生部門是全力往這方面來努力，謝謝委員的指教，這個絕對是我們日以繼夜在……"],["黃委員秀芳：好，所以我們希望未來，因為上一次……"],["邱部長泰源：希望大家能敢生，然後生出來就要照顧好，教育好。"],["黃委員秀芳：部長，我上次已經有詢問過你了，你也是像今天這樣子在回答我，我們希望有一些進度啦！譬如說兒童的專責單位，或者是臺大醫院他們有臨床的兒童醫療健康研究中心，類似這樣子，我覺得應該要有一些進度，而不是每次都跟我講還要再跟他們討論或者是還要再研究。"],["邱部長泰源：兒童研究中心，劉越萍司長剛好出自那裡。"],["劉司長越萍：我補充一下，跟委員報告一下進度，大概在3月左右，我自己就帶同仁到臺大兒童醫院去瞭解他們的需求，如果只有臨床研究的部分，需要參與的單位就變成國科會也要一起進來支持，那他們跟我說他們想做的是健康，以健康來講的話，我就說如果臺大兒童醫院沒有找公共衛生相關的學者，在這一塊上面就沒有我們現在講的研究議題的廣度，所以經過討論之後，臺大醫院說它短期的這個計畫原本是由教育部提供的，可能要再做延長，所以他們現在正在進行內部的程序，因為光是從原來只有臨床要擴展到健康的時候，要去協作的單位變多了。那是3月的時候的事情，我們現在是在等臺大兒童醫院他們有一個內部的共識之後，需要再做協作的時候，我們跟他們其實有保持良好的聯繫管道，以上。"],["黃委員秀芳：我們希望能夠有一些進度，好不好？"],["邱部長泰源：好，一定會有進度。"],["黃委員秀芳：好，謝謝。"],["邱部長泰源：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝黃委員，謝謝部長。","接下來請林淑芬委員來做詢答。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":548,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-26-14","speakers":["劉建國","林淑芬","王育敏","何欣純","王正旭","林月琴","黃捷","陳菁徽","蘇清泉","邱鎮軍","黃秀芳","陳培瑜","李彥秀","楊瓊瓔","張雅琳","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","郭昱晴","陳瑩","楊曜","陳昭姿","張嘉郡","林德福","廖偉翔","涂權吉","李坤城"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2025-05-28"],"gazette_id":"1145502","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1145502_00002","1145502_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第14次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、處理114年度中央政府總預算決議有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結報告案 64案（含報告事項51\n案及討論事項13案）；二、審查(一)行政院函請審議「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(二)委員林月\n琴等16人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(三)委員何欣純等16人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」\n案、(四)委員王育敏等24人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(五)委員邱若華等16人擬具「兒童\n托育服務法草案」案、(六)委員黃捷等21人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(七)委員蔡易餘等\n17人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(八)委員李坤城等22人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、\n(九)委員陳培瑜等19人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(十)委員郭昱晴等21人擬具「兒童托育\n服務法草案」案、(十一)委員陳素月等16人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(十二)委員鄭天財\nSra Kacaw 等18人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(十三)委員王美惠等19人擬具「兒童托育服\n務法草案」案、(十四)委員林淑芬等25人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、(十五)委員王正旭等\n18 人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」案、( 十六) 委員吳沛憶等18 人擬具「兒童托育服務法草案」\n案；三、(一)繼續審查委員王育敏等18人擬具「病人自主權利法部分條文修正草案」案、(二)繼\n續審查委員劉建國等16人擬具「病人自主權利法部分條文修正草案」案、(三)繼續審查委員邱志\n偉等19人擬具「病人自主權利法第八條、第九條及第十五條條文修正草案」案、(四)審查委員李\n柏毅等16 人擬具「病人自主權利法第九條條文修正草案」案、 ( 五) 審查委員羅廷瑋等16 人擬具\n「病人自主權利法增訂第十六條之一條文草案」案","agenda_id":"1145502_00001"}}}