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00:02:13,541\n這翁伯忠等三位這個公文還沒有撤我有一段時間想一想要把這些人事案來排這個排下去啊是給行政院打臉給賴政府打臉這個問題這麼簡單的事應該撤的就要撤可是據我了解這除了翁伯忠代主委之外\n\n7\n00:02:14,588 --> 00:02:39,406\n那其他有三位委員只剩下一個沒有辭職師兩個都已經辭職了那這個事態這麼嚴重那為什麼行政院到現在為止他都不提那一天到晚就在指責在野黨不支持NCC其實我們將心比心\n\n8\n00:02:41,087 --> 00:02:55,914\n今天的問題是行政院的問題為什麼沒有人怪你因為提名權不是你但是你也是啞巴吃翻臉啊不敢講可是我今天透過執行我要呼籲行政院\n\n9\n00:02:56,974 --> 00:03:24,479\nNCC現在準備功能雖然可以執行但是決策功能無法發揮這是非常重要的所以早上我們同仁也問你了也就是說我們該決策的這些會議無法做決策這個是我們NCC現在最頭痛的一個問題\n\n10\n00:03:25,782 --> 00:03:46,840\n那在這裡我特別還是要呼籲行政院人事案原來的你認為不妥或者新的委員那當然要盡快去提所以不要一天到晚就罵在野黨在杯葛NCC其實NCC這些解凍案或者這些法條\n\n11\n00:03:48,121 --> 00:04:10,446\n拜託我們都很支持是我們主動是我們主動來做所以我還是希望行政院要把這個問題當成正式的一個非常急迫刻不容緩的人事案要盡快那當然這個沒有在指責主委跟主秘的意思因為\n\n12\n00:04:11,286 --> 00:04:35,457\n你也是聽命以行事但是最起碼的話下情上打讓上面知道很迫切的需要所以今天你的報告有10點是沒有這個不足法定程序的這些委員會你無法去開那另外一個我是覺得啦齁這個當然代主委你就可以\n\n13\n00:04:36,337 --> 00:05:04,354\n表示意見的第一個你認為你在代理這段時間你認為你有沒有政治性有沒有我們都依法行政依法行政我說實在啦你在代理這段時間你確確實實是有在依法做事啦但是跟過去的主委政治性太強\n\n14\n00:05:06,494 --> 00:05:12,162\n這種東西是有天然之北那我就搞不清楚啦那行政院為什麼\n\n15\n00:05:13,462 --> 00:05:40,439\n解決這個問題很簡單啊再補一個送進來立法院不會去反對這些然後主委就把它爭取這個問題就解決嘛這個問題解決我就覺得行政院難道都不曉得嗎我跟你講NCC本來就是國家國家通信的一個主要的獨立單位所以我還是要請主秘\n\n16\n00:05:41,600 --> 00:06:10,308\n還有主委要把這個問題要把它但是我還是要勉勵我們代主委啦行政中立非常重要該做的也要做這個我想特別要勉勵我們代主委這個部分要繼續下去不管待多久啦我是覺得那個要解決這個問題我剛才也解了你就可以爭儲客可以解決補一個人我相信我們立法院不會說連一個都不會過嘛\n\n17\n00:06:11,388 --> 00:06:34,568\n但是這些東西我還是要正式跟卓院長呼籲這個問題可以解決的不要一直啊沾一個管啦我說實在這樣怎麼執政另外一個我還是要呼籲啊我們代主委啊就是就是因為NCC是一個\n\n18\n00:06:36,007 --> 00:06:56,727\n非常重要的單位尤其媒體啊廣播啊等等這些你們那個第二張了跳過來了好這個NCC的監督媒體不要只有靠臉書來花文主委你認為不管是5月19號或5月21號你們這些在臉書花文\n\n19\n00:07:02,287 --> 00:07:30,041\n像這個三峽這個案子寫零零的這些圖片啊或等等這些東西你們有沒有考慮以後臉書一種公文書一種你們不要只有花臉書你們事後有沒有補公文書啊跟我們回報其實我們跟他的工協會跟衛星公關那些其實都一直密切聯繫這些大概事前的非正式的通知提醒大概都有做\n\n20\n00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:41,858\n你們現在有沒有公文書我要呼籲你臉書是一種公文書是一種不管你臉書或者媒體你怎麼做\n\n21\n00:07:43,334 --> 00:08:02,600\n行政單位尤其我們獨立單位監督單位行政公文書才有憑有據這個部分我要勉勵主委不管怎麼樣來不及做最迅速是用臉書用其他的媒體的的公告但最起碼公文書都要\n\n22\n00:08:04,241 --> 00:08:28,473\n都要補來這樣的話我們的立場我們的行政立場才會認為較為完善的東西也比較正式啦主委你知道嗎我知道但是他的自律規範其實我們都有檢視過那也有一些在那邊特殊的一些報導的一些自律規範那個我們都認為說他人平常都是必須要落實那我們看到重大事件之後我們會再次提醒\n\n23\n00:08:29,261 --> 00:08:54,289\n好這個我還是希望啦不能只靠臉書好不好所以我認為啊我認為這個新聞的智力就像你在答覆我們這些委員在答覆的時候其實當機立斷依照你們的職權該處分的就該處分該就證的就就證該讓他說明的就說明不要在那邊模擬兩可不要遇到綠色電視台你們都不敢作為\n\n24\n00:08:55,393 --> 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