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00:00:30,383\n請麻煩我們的陳代理好陳代主委主委好午安好我知道今天事實上是審法案啦但我有一個很重要的問題想要來就教於主委所以我今天要問的是NCC的網傳辦公室具體的政策目標跟計畫成果在哪裡還有IWIN法人化的進度呢\n\n2\n00:00:31,735 --> 00:00:55,708\n好那跟委員回答我們在113年4月14日網傳辦公室成立我們訂定了五個目標第一個是促進多方利害關係人共識治理模式第二個是促進平台業者之力第三個是協助政府機關來共同維護等一下我也會讓你有機會再細講我會這樣子問是因為今年1月底\n\n3\n00:00:56,829 --> 00:01:13,935\n媒體的報導說前任的陳耀祥主委有提到確定要做要將iWIN法人化因為原本兒少全法第46條本來就是為了防止兒少接觸有害身心健康的網路內容的有要求\n\n4\n00:01:15,255 --> 00:01:25,178\n要有一個內容防護機構所以目前委託台北市電腦工會去做這個iWIN就是現在的iWIN那陳謙主委表示說現行委託的經費雖然有1520萬元但這樣的經費抓緊見軸\n\n5\n00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:56,505\n雖然iWIN目前是由台北市電腦工會來承辦效果不錯可是長期下來不利於整個的傳承所以為了形成一個網路共同治理的長期長遠的架構NCC在2023年4月成立了網際網路網傳辦公室也預計要將iWIN的財團法人復化所以主委我想問你說你同不同意這個政策的延續\n\n6\n00:01:57,994 --> 00:02:21,727\n我們同意因為目前網路那你同意的話那這個同意的話那IWIN的財團法人立法目前有沒有進度啊我們在院裡頭報給行政院知道院裡頭有一些要我們收集相關部會的回饋意見來做一些處理那目前還在跟這方面的意見的一些釐清跟協調處理當中\n\n7\n00:02:23,788 --> 00:02:42,826\n不過網傳辦公室從2023年成立到現在兩年多成立之後到底要做什麼呢所以前面我們大家就提到2023年4月去成立網傳辦公室根據你們NCC你們自己給我的報告網傳辦公室依據這些口號性的三大願景四大\n\n8\n00:02:43,346 --> 00:03:10,833\n理念跟五大目標在運作那想問兩年了因為你們的同仁也來我們辦公室我有請他去說明結果他說你們主要內容只有網路政策研究可是列了又這麼多的項目最後跟我講說只有網路政策研究所以那我就回來先單純問網路政策研究現在有沒有什麼具體的研究成果還有有什麼重大方面的規劃跟進展要\n\n9\n00:03:11,593 --> 00:03:36,948\n有提報到行政院這個成果到底是什麼其實我們突然反映的只是一部分我們目前比較具體的有很多比方說我們跟衛福部合作自殺防制專線今年3月14日上線那今年也會再增加一個網路新聞的申訴的部分的處理那未來相關部會的其他申訴我們也會慢慢罵入那另外在國際參與部分我們也加入這個\n\n10\n00:03:40,090 --> 00:04:05,800\n然後第三個部分我們也在跟韓國跟數位部一起來簽訂這個打擊數位性犯罪的共同聲明那其他部分宣導對業者端對民眾端我們都有持續在辦主委你剛剛有提到你們現在已經有跟韓國簽訂了嗎就我知道我們目前一直從警政或者衛福部那邊都還知道說韓國這一塊還沒有簽訂所以你現在確定是共同聲明是有已經發生過\n\n11\n00:04:07,717 --> 00:04:27,035\n那我再問就是說為什麼我會問說具體的研究成果延續上一頁你們網傳辦公室究竟跟iWIN的分工到底是什麼因為目前你們還是委託因為我在上任前就有問說你們當初成立網傳辦公室是一個搭iWIN的概念\n\n12\n00:04:28,016 --> 00:04:42,690\n獲得40人的編制喔還說未來是要規劃要取代iWIN的功能喔就不會有各部會要出資委託iWIN的情況現在iWIN事實上是有經濟部衛福部教育部你們通傳會跟內政部都委託他們\n\n13\n00:04:43,792 --> 00:05:05,273\n可是他編制只有13個人可是相對的這些他的有些工作內容你現在要提這個網傳辦公室甚至以後要大IWIN的概念上的話那這一工作內容是不是跟IWIN還有速發部是高度重疊可是IWIN現在用13個人來接受了五部會的一個委託他經費只有1500萬可是做的\n\n14\n00:05:07,455 --> 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那跟委員回答我們在113年4月14日網傳辦公室成立我們訂定了五個目標第一個是促進多方利害關係人共識治理模式第二個是促進平台業者之力第三個是協助政府機關來共同維護等一下我也會讓你有機會再細講我會這樣子問是因為今年1月底\n56829\t73935\t媒體的報導說前任的陳耀祥主委有提到確定要做要將iWIN法人化因為原本兒少全法第46條本來就是為了防止兒少接觸有害身心健康的網路內容的有要求\n75255\t85178\t要有一個內容防護機構所以目前委託台北市電腦工會去做這個iWIN就是現在的iWIN那陳謙主委表示說現行委託的經費雖然有1520萬元但這樣的經費抓緊見軸\n92120\t116505\t雖然iWIN目前是由台北市電腦工會來承辦效果不錯可是長期下來不利於整個的傳承所以為了形成一個網路共同治理的長期長遠的架構NCC在2023年4月成立了網際網路網傳辦公室也預計要將iWIN的財團法人復化所以主委我想問你說你同不同意這個政策的延續\n117994\t141727\t我們同意因為目前網路那你同意的話那這個同意的話那IWIN的財團法人立法目前有沒有進度啊我們在院裡頭報給行政院知道院裡頭有一些要我們收集相關部會的回饋意見來做一些處理那目前還在跟這方面的意見的一些釐清跟協調處理當中\n143788\t162826\t不過網傳辦公室從2023年成立到現在兩年多成立之後到底要做什麼呢所以前面我們大家就提到2023年4月去成立網傳辦公室根據你們NCC你們自己給我的報告網傳辦公室依據這些口號性的三大願景四大\n163346\t190833\t理念跟五大目標在運作那想問兩年了因為你們的同仁也來我們辦公室我有請他去說明結果他說你們主要內容只有網路政策研究可是列了又這麼多的項目最後跟我講說只有網路政策研究所以那我就回來先單純問網路政策研究現在有沒有什麼具體的研究成果還有有什麼重大方面的規劃跟進展要\n191593\t216948\t有提報到行政院這個成果到底是什麼其實我們突然反映的只是一部分我們目前比較具體的有很多比方說我們跟衛福部合作自殺防制專線今年3月14日上線那今年也會再增加一個網路新聞的申訴的部分的處理那未來相關部會的其他申訴我們也會慢慢罵入那另外在國際參與部分我們也加入這個\n220090\t245800\t然後第三個部分我們也在跟韓國跟數位部一起來簽訂這個打擊數位性犯罪的共同聲明那其他部分宣導對業者端對民眾端我們都有持續在辦主委你剛剛有提到你們現在已經有跟韓國簽訂了嗎就我知道我們目前一直從警政或者衛福部那邊都還知道說韓國這一塊還沒有簽訂所以你現在確定是共同聲明是有已經發生過\n247717\t267035\t那我再問就是說為什麼我會問說具體的研究成果延續上一頁你們網傳辦公室究竟跟iWIN的分工到底是什麼因為目前你們還是委託因為我在上任前就有問說你們當初成立網傳辦公室是一個搭iWIN的概念\n268016\t282690\t獲得40人的編制喔還說未來是要規劃要取代iWIN的功能喔就不會有各部會要出資委託iWIN的情況現在iWIN事實上是有經濟部衛福部教育部你們通傳會跟內政部都委託他們\n283792\t305273\t可是他編制只有13個人可是相對的這些他的有些工作內容你現在要提這個網傳辦公室甚至以後要大IWIN的概念上的話那這一工作內容是不是跟IWIN還有速發部是高度重疊可是IWIN現在用13個人來接受了五部會的一個委託他經費只有1500萬可是做的\n307455\t328087\tiWIN做的是這樣包山包海 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那跟委員回答我們在113年4月14日網傳辦公室成立我們訂定了五個目標第一個是促進多方利害關係人共識治理模式第二個是促進平台業者之力第三個是協助政府機關來共同維護等一下我也會讓你有機會再細講我會這樣子問是因為今年1月底\n媒體的報導說前任的陳耀祥主委有提到確定要做要將iWIN法人化因為原本兒少全法第46條本來就是為了防止兒少接觸有害身心健康的網路內容的有要求\n要有一個內容防護機構所以目前委託台北市電腦工會去做這個iWIN就是現在的iWIN那陳謙主委表示說現行委託的經費雖然有1520萬元但這樣的經費抓緊見軸\n雖然iWIN目前是由台北市電腦工會來承辦效果不錯可是長期下來不利於整個的傳承所以為了形成一個網路共同治理的長期長遠的架構NCC在2023年4月成立了網際網路網傳辦公室也預計要將iWIN的財團法人復化所以主委我想問你說你同不同意這個政策的延續\n我們同意因為目前網路那你同意的話那這個同意的話那IWIN的財團法人立法目前有沒有進度啊我們在院裡頭報給行政院知道院裡頭有一些要我們收集相關部會的回饋意見來做一些處理那目前還在跟這方面的意見的一些釐清跟協調處理當中\n不過網傳辦公室從2023年成立到現在兩年多成立之後到底要做什麼呢所以前面我們大家就提到2023年4月去成立網傳辦公室根據你們NCC你們自己給我的報告網傳辦公室依據這些口號性的三大願景四大\n理念跟五大目標在運作那想問兩年了因為你們的同仁也來我們辦公室我有請他去說明結果他說你們主要內容只有網路政策研究可是列了又這麼多的項目最後跟我講說只有網路政策研究所以那我就回來先單純問網路政策研究現在有沒有什麼具體的研究成果還有有什麼重大方面的規劃跟進展要\n有提報到行政院這個成果到底是什麼其實我們突然反映的只是一部分我們目前比較具體的有很多比方說我們跟衛福部合作自殺防制專線今年3月14日上線那今年也會再增加一個網路新聞的申訴的部分的處理那未來相關部會的其他申訴我們也會慢慢罵入那另外在國際參與部分我們也加入這個\n然後第三個部分我們也在跟韓國跟數位部一起來簽訂這個打擊數位性犯罪的共同聲明那其他部分宣導對業者端對民眾端我們都有持續在辦主委你剛剛有提到你們現在已經有跟韓國簽訂了嗎就我知道我們目前一直從警政或者衛福部那邊都還知道說韓國這一塊還沒有簽訂所以你現在確定是共同聲明是有已經發生過\n那我再問就是說為什麼我會問說具體的研究成果延續上一頁你們網傳辦公室究竟跟iWIN的分工到底是什麼因為目前你們還是委託因為我在上任前就有問說你們當初成立網傳辦公室是一個搭iWIN的概念\n獲得40人的編制喔還說未來是要規劃要取代iWIN的功能喔就不會有各部會要出資委託iWIN的情況現在iWIN事實上是有經濟部衛福部教育部你們通傳會跟內政部都委託他們\n可是他編制只有13個人可是相對的這些他的有些工作內容你現在要提這個網傳辦公室甚至以後要大IWIN的概念上的話那這一工作內容是不是跟IWIN還有速發部是高度重疊可是IWIN現在用13個人來接受了五部會的一個委託他經費只有1500萬可是做的\niWIN做的是這樣包山包海 比你網傳辦公室還要多很多你們又一直說跟我們辦公室報告說你們不能成為兒少網路管理的主管機關主則單位要分散到各部會區所以想問你們這個定位你們到底對你們的網傳辦公室的定位甚至iWIN的定位到底是什麼\n好 簡單跟委員回報幾點 第一點IWINT它主要的權責是兒少的保護是那個兒少法46條那我們這邊網傳辦公室的是它的範圍是更廣 是在我們組織法裡頭規定說我們要做對網際網路政策相關的網際網路傳播政策的相關的一些研修一些工作事項所以主委我這一篇列的六項都是你們的工作內容嗎因為上次你們工作同仁來我們辦公室講說你們只有\n只在做網路研究網路政策研究那現在我再度的跟你確認這六項都是你的工作內容嗎有去促進網路平台業者自律嗎有那我覺得會後\n拜託請你們這邊提供我資料所以我要求就是NCC在一週內提出網際辦公室編制內40人的具體工作內容跟分工是什麼還提出我們的網傳辦公室已經做了哪些計畫跟成果因為兩年了嘛還未來你們具體政策目標跟預計成效然後一個月內提出IWIN法人化的進度\n有沒有辦法我們會提出順利報告好 謝謝主委\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.552 --> 00:30.383\n請麻煩我們的陳代理好陳代主委主委好午安好我知道今天事實上是審法案啦但我有一個很重要的問題想要來就教於主委所以我今天要問的是NCC的網傳辦公室具體的政策目標跟計畫成果在哪裡還有IWIN法人化的進度呢\n\n00:31.735 --> 00:55.708\n好那跟委員回答我們在113年4月14日網傳辦公室成立我們訂定了五個目標第一個是促進多方利害關係人共識治理模式第二個是促進平台業者之力第三個是協助政府機關來共同維護等一下我也會讓你有機會再細講我會這樣子問是因為今年1月底\n\n00:56.829 --> 01:13.935\n媒體的報導說前任的陳耀祥主委有提到確定要做要將iWIN法人化因為原本兒少全法第46條本來就是為了防止兒少接觸有害身心健康的網路內容的有要求\n\n01:15.255 --> 01:25.178\n要有一個內容防護機構所以目前委託台北市電腦工會去做這個iWIN就是現在的iWIN那陳謙主委表示說現行委託的經費雖然有1520萬元但這樣的經費抓緊見軸\n\n01:32.120 --> 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