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00:00:55,149\n立法院的決議啊當然在立法院院會裡面通過的當然主要應該贊成的都是藍白的立法委員是嘛秘書長也知道嘛你們很努力的想要挽回這一筆預算跟我們立法院說不要亂砍這個砍下去傷害到的是全台的人民當時你們還苦口婆心苦口婆心的一個一個勸就算了你們也提出復議了該表達的都表達了結果立法院最後\n\n3\n00:00:56,269 --> 00:01:00,952\n亂刪了一個900多億最後說636億要我們行政院自行去補足然後自行調科目那我看了這個要怎麼調科目啊因為他們現在就是問你拿著一把刀問你說你要砍左手還是要砍右手啊砍下去都是他們的錯啊砍下去人民都痛啊我剛剛看了一下這個其實你們這個政院的這筆預算喔\n\n4\n00:01:24,625 --> 00:01:40,428\n有勞保啦有住宅基金啦農發基金啦農損基金啦打架的防災的經費啦還有最重要的國防預算啦也就是說如果現在我們要挑一個項目請問這些項目可以挑嗎那個都沒有辦法挑所以我們才在自然難行之下提出這個我們也不願意的一個方式\n\n5\n00:01:52,857 --> 00:02:12,860\n這真的很無奈啦怎麼說很無奈我知道行政院很為難我剛講的這幾個項目沒有一個人敢做這個決定說你也敢去砍國防預算啊萬一如果我們砍了國防預算是不是藍白又要來說你看我們的政府不支持國防沒有要捍衛自身的決心了所以國防預算絕對不能砍嘛\n\n6\n00:02:14,421 --> 00:02:19,542\n勞保可以砍嗎不能砍嘛農損可以砍嗎也不能砍嘛對農民的照顧這些都很重要打架更不用說了也都是大家都認為非常重要的一筆經費所以這樣看來看去沒有一筆是可以砍的那等於是怎麼樣都是要逼你們做壞人嘛所以我認為這個對鎮員來說真的很為難但其實最老實說啦最無奈最委屈的莫過於我們南部縣市\n\n7\n00:02:39,648 --> 00:02:56,265\n因為其實我們南部縣市過去也本來就是因為財政體質不好所以其實中央也都是利用一般性補助的方式讓我們南部的縣市可以透過一般性的補助可以拿到一些至少不要財政上這麼困難結果這樣子一般性補助一刀劃下去\n\n8\n00:02:57,286 --> 00:03:25,000\n砍的最重的就是我們南高屏尤其是我們高雄市八個委員在立法院全力捍衛預算這麼努力的幫行政院捍衛但結果最後因為這個藍白的二手砍下去的結果受傷最重的卻是我們高雄市那我在這邊也覺得很委屈啦還是希望說希望明年如果藍白願意回頭了如果藍白願意妥協願意道歉了\n\n9\n00:03:26,141 --> 00:03:52,171\n那我們趕快重新把這個預算補足不要讓我們南部的縣市成為最大的這個冤大頭我認為是真的非常的委屈啦在這邊也讓政院知道說我已經從上禮拜到這禮拜我已經接到非常多我們高雄市的鄉親跟我哭訴說哇怎麼這個砍下去我們高雄市這麼支持我們行政院的預算這麼支持我們國家政府的\n\n10\n00:03:52,971 --> 00:04:03,497\n財政的結構也支持財政健全都不支持這樣子他們亂砍預算的結果最後受害的是我們南部我這個還是要在這邊幫我們南部的鄉親來表達好最後一點時間我要來跟這個秘書長請教一下我們職場霸凌匿名通報的事情因為我知道說從去年這個勞動部的事情發生之後我們行政院其實動作也很快\n\n11\n00:04:16,665 --> 00:04:30,439\n馬上處理了一個報名通報的申訴平台可以上線了那到現在看起來也是有一些案件都有列管追蹤但是我想要講的是其實有很多民眾跟我反映他們希望還是有一個匿名通報的選項因為他們當然會擔心被報復或者是說在這個職場的環境裡面有一些壓力所以如果能匿名通報是最好的\n\n12\n00:04:39,048 --> 00:05:07,763\n那當然有民眾也有發現說其實在網頁裡面如果你用一個這個公務人員人事服務網的帳號的方式可以技術性的匿名通報所以我在這邊是想要建議說是不是就有一個方式是讓他們可以直接匿名通報如果已經在這個職場上面有遭受到霸凌的情況或者是他們有一些壓力想要藉此來讓自己受到保護的情況下可以反映這個霸凌的案件是不是可以有這樣的管道呢\n\n13\n00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:36,277\n我們並不是說如果匿名的話我們就完全丟掉不管不是他如果描述的內容非常明確的話比如說某一個人他怎麼樣怎麼樣的話也會去了解跟調查如果真的有這樣的形式的話也是會處理的除非說他又匿名然後又沒有指明什麼樣的情況然後又很模糊對那我們沒有辦法調查最重要的是能不能調查如果可以調查我們就會啟動調查\n\n14\n00:05:37,998 --> 00:05:53,417\n好那這就是我想要拜託啦那當然我認為這個霸凌通報的申訴平台要持續運作然後也希望你們可以實質的列管追蹤讓這個如果真的有受到任何不平的民眾都可以受到你們的保障好嗎是好那張嵐\n\n15\n00:05:54,438 --> 00:06:17,416\n在這邊最後我也講一點啦其實剛剛最後秘書長也有提到你們性平業務的部分我在這邊是希望可以督促你們性平業務的督導因為大家也知道說最近其實台灣各地都還是有發生一些性平的事件最近最著名的就是這個金門京城國中的一個老師他命題的內容真的不堪入目我一個字都不想再看\n\n16\n00:06:18,217 --> 00:06:45,024\n那這個案件當然是屬於教育部的業館那當然我希望性平竟然是我們政府非常重要的一個政策我也知道性平處很努力那這樣方面的業務督導我們是不是也可以把我們這些正確的性平觀念可以佈局到所有的政府機關裡面會會我們會透過性平處跟各部會在讓他們理解跟了解這個必須要的這個性平的注意\n\n17\n00:06:46,621 --> 00:07:10,162\n那因為我是認為說這一次他們學校的懲處其實是非常不夠的包括說這個老師的言行已經這麼嚴正了結果他只有停聘六個月他的懲處就是停聘六個月而已我相信大家看了都會覺得這個對於一個在提升性平意識的做法都是不足夠的所以我是希望說政院這邊也要拿出我們政府的態度我們對於性平的重視\n\n18\n00:07:11,383 --> 00:07:21,518\n那是包括說剛剛其實祕書長也有提到我們現在的一些重點的性品業務嘛是不是可以再跟大家報告一下我們接下來重點的做法好我是不是請那個性物處處長好請處長\n\n19\n00:07:25,253 --> 00:07:52,337\n谢谢委员那性平处这边就是我们有性别平等的纲领那每四年呢我们都有重要的性别推动的计划重点那今年呢114年已经上一期的最后一年那所以我们会研发下一个年度的四年的一个重点的计划那包括在角色参与提升女性经济力还有性别歧视的这个部分的一个消除那还有就是在这个人身安全的这个性别平等的一个\n\n20\n00:07:52,717 --> 00:08:15,949\n我们有个国家的行动计划那这个都是我们未来一个很重要的一个推动的方向那歧视的这一块确实是一个很需要在全面性的一个性别平等意识提升的这个部分所以也是我们未来很重要的一个推动方向好这个要拜托然后也希望你们定一些政策的时候可以更细致这个是一定要的好吗好这个拜托处长好谢谢秘书长\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3541\t5182\t好 謝謝主席 我們請祕書長好 請祕書長好 祕書長早喔 這幾天大家都在討論這個一般性補助跟行政院的關係說要來杯葛你們 說你們亂砍了他們的預算我還是再次請教喔 請問祕書長這個預算到底是誰砍的啊\n27814\t55149\t立法院的決議啊當然在立法院院會裡面通過的當然主要應該贊成的都是藍白的立法委員是嘛秘書長也知道嘛你們很努力的想要挽回這一筆預算跟我們立法院說不要亂砍這個砍下去傷害到的是全台的人民當時你們還苦口婆心苦口婆心的一個一個勸就算了你們也提出復議了該表達的都表達了結果立法院最後\n56269\t60952\t亂刪了一個900多億最後說636億要我們行政院自行去補足然後自行調科目那我看了這個要怎麼調科目啊因為他們現在就是問你拿著一把刀問你說你要砍左手還是要砍右手啊砍下去都是他們的錯啊砍下去人民都痛啊我剛剛看了一下這個其實你們這個政院的這筆預算喔\n84625\t100428\t有勞保啦 有住宅基金啦 農發基金啦 農損基金啦打架的 防災的經費啦 還有最重要的國防預算啦也就是說如果現在我們要挑一個項目 請問這些項目可以挑嗎那個都沒有辦法挑 所以我們才在自然難行之下提出這個我們也不願意的一個方式\n112857\t132860\t這真的很無奈啦怎麼說很無奈我知道行政院很為難我剛講的這幾個項目沒有一個人敢做這個決定說你也敢去砍國防預算啊萬一如果我們砍了國防預算是不是藍白又要來說你看我們的政府不支持國防沒有要捍衛自身的決心了所以國防預算絕對不能砍嘛\n134421\t139542\t勞保可以砍嗎 不能砍嘛農損可以砍嗎 也不能砍嘛對農民的照顧這些都很重要打架更不用說了也都是大家都認為非常重要的一筆經費所以這樣看來看去沒有一筆是可以砍的那等於是怎麼樣都是要逼你們做壞人嘛所以我認為這個對鎮員來說真的很為難但其實最 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包括說剛剛其實祕書長也有提到我們現在的一些重點的性品業務嘛是不是可以再跟大家報告一下我們接下來重點的做法好 我是不是請那個 性物處處長好 請處長\n445253\t472337\t谢谢委员那性平处这边就是我们有性别平等的纲领那每四年呢我们都有重要的性别推动的计划重点那今年呢114年已经上一期的最后一年那所以我们会研发下一个年度的四年的一个重点的计划那包括在角色参与提升女性经济力还有性别歧视的这个部分的一个消除那还有就是在这个人身安全的这个性别平等的一个\n472717\t495949\t我们有个国家的行动计划那这个都是我们未来一个很重要的一个推动的方向那歧视的这一块确实是一个很需要在全面性的一个性别平等意识提升的这个部分所以也是我们未来很重要的一个推动方向好这个要拜托然后也希望你们定一些政策的时候可以更细致这个是一定要的好吗好这个拜托处长好谢谢秘书长\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 我們請祕書長好 請祕書長好 祕書長早喔 這幾天大家都在討論這個一般性補助跟行政院的關係說要來杯葛你們 說你們亂砍了他們的預算我還是再次請教喔 請問祕書長這個預算到底是誰砍的啊\n立法院的決議啊當然在立法院院會裡面通過的當然主要應該贊成的都是藍白的立法委員是嘛秘書長也知道嘛你們很努力的想要挽回這一筆預算跟我們立法院說不要亂砍這個砍下去傷害到的是全台的人民當時你們還苦口婆心苦口婆心的一個一個勸就算了你們也提出復議了該表達的都表達了結果立法院最後\n亂刪了一個900多億最後說636億要我們行政院自行去補足然後自行調科目那我看了這個要怎麼調科目啊因為他們現在就是問你拿著一把刀問你說你要砍左手還是要砍右手啊砍下去都是他們的錯啊砍下去人民都痛啊我剛剛看了一下這個其實你們這個政院的這筆預算喔\n有勞保啦 有住宅基金啦 農發基金啦 農損基金啦打架的 防災的經費啦 還有最重要的國防預算啦也就是說如果現在我們要挑一個項目 請問這些項目可以挑嗎那個都沒有辦法挑 所以我們才在自然難行之下提出這個我們也不願意的一個方式\n這真的很無奈啦怎麼說很無奈我知道行政院很為難我剛講的這幾個項目沒有一個人敢做這個決定說你也敢去砍國防預算啊萬一如果我們砍了國防預算是不是藍白又要來說你看我們的政府不支持國防沒有要捍衛自身的決心了所以國防預算絕對不能砍嘛\n勞保可以砍嗎 不能砍嘛農損可以砍嗎 也不能砍嘛對農民的照顧這些都很重要打架更不用說了也都是大家都認為非常重要的一筆經費所以這樣看來看去沒有一筆是可以砍的那等於是怎麼樣都是要逼你們做壞人嘛所以我認為這個對鎮員來說真的很為難但其實最 老實說啦最無奈最委屈的莫過於我們南部縣市\n因為其實我們南部縣市過去也本來就是因為財政體質不好所以其實中央也都是利用一般性補助的方式讓我們南部的縣市可以透過一般性的補助可以拿到一些至少不要財政上這麼困難結果這樣子一般性補助一刀劃下去\n砍的最重的就是我們南高屏尤其是我們高雄市八個委員在立法院全力捍衛預算這麼努力的幫行政院捍衛但結果最後因為這個藍白的二手砍下去的結果受傷最重的卻是我們高雄市那我在這邊也覺得很委屈啦還是希望說希望明年如果藍白願意回頭了如果藍白願意妥協願意道歉了\n那我們趕快重新把這個預算補足不要讓我們南部的縣市成為最大的這個冤大頭我認為是真的非常的委屈啦在這邊也讓政院知道說我已經從上禮拜到這禮拜我已經接到非常多我們高雄市的鄉親跟我哭訴說哇怎麼這個砍下去我們高雄市這麼支持我們行政院的預算這麼支持我們國家政府的\n財政的結構也支持財政健全都不支持這樣子他們亂砍預算的結果最後受害的是我們南部我這個還是要在這邊幫我們南部的鄉親來表達好最後一點時間我要來跟這個秘書長請教一下我們職場霸凌匿名通報的事情因為我知道說從去年這個勞動部的事情發生之後我們行政院其實動作也很快\n馬上處理了一個報名通報的申訴平台可以上線了那到現在看起來也是有一些案件都有列管追蹤但是我想要講的是其實有很多民眾跟我反映他們希望還是有一個匿名通報的選項因為他們當然會擔心被報復或者是說在這個職場的環境裡面有一些壓力所以如果能匿名通報是最好的\n那當然有民眾也有發現說其實在網頁裡面如果你用一個這個公務人員人事服務網的帳號的方式可以技術性的匿名通報所以我在這邊是想要建議說是不是就有一個方式是讓他們可以直接匿名通報如果已經在這個職場上面有遭受到霸凌的情況或者是他們有一些壓力想要藉此來讓自己受到保護的情況下可以反映這個霸凌的案件是不是可以有這樣的管道呢\n我們並不是說如果匿名的話我們就完全丟掉不管不是他如果描述的內容非常明確的話比如說某一個人他怎麼樣怎麼樣的話也會去了解跟調查如果真的有這樣的形式的話也是會處理的除非說他又匿名然後又沒有指明什麼樣的情況然後又很模糊對那我們沒有辦法調查最重要的是能不能調查如果可以調查我們就會啟動調查\n好那這就是我想要拜託啦那當然我認為這個霸凌通報的申訴平台要持續運作然後也希望你們可以實質的列管追蹤讓這個如果真的有受到任何不平的民眾都可以受到你們的保障好嗎是好那張嵐\n在這邊最後我也講一點啦其實剛剛最後秘書長也有提到你們性平業務的部分我在這邊是希望可以督促你們性平業務的督導因為大家也知道說最近其實台灣各地都還是有發生一些性平的事件最近最著名的就是這個金門京城國中的一個老師他命題的內容真的不堪入目我一個字都不想再看\n那這個案件當然是屬於教育部的業館那當然我希望性平竟然是我們政府非常重要的一個政策我也知道性平處很努力那這樣方面的業務督導我們是不是也可以把我們這些正確的性平觀念可以佈局到所有的政府機關裡面會會我們會透過性平處跟各部會在讓他們理解跟了解這個必須要的這個性平的注意\n那因為我是認為說這一次他們學校的懲處其實是非常不夠的包括說這個老師的言行已經這麼嚴正了結果他只有停聘六個月他的懲處就是停聘六個月而已我相信大家看了都會覺得這個對於一個在提升性平意識的做法都是不足夠的所以我是希望說政院這邊也要拿出我們政府的態度我們對於性平的重視\n那是 包括說剛剛其實祕書長也有提到我們現在的一些重點的性品業務嘛是不是可以再跟大家報告一下我們接下來重點的做法好 我是不是請那個 性物處處長好 請處長\n谢谢委员那性平处这边就是我们有性别平等的纲领那每四年呢我们都有重要的性别推动的计划重点那今年呢114年已经上一期的最后一年那所以我们会研发下一个年度的四年的一个重点的计划那包括在角色参与提升女性经济力还有性别歧视的这个部分的一个消除那还有就是在这个人身安全的这个性别平等的一个\n我们有个国家的行动计划那这个都是我们未来一个很重要的一个推动的方向那歧视的这一块确实是一个很需要在全面性的一个性别平等意识提升的这个部分所以也是我们未来很重要的一个推动方向好这个要拜托然后也希望你们定一些政策的时候可以更细致这个是一定要的好吗好这个拜托处长好谢谢秘书长\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.541 --> 00:05.182\n好謝謝主席我們請祕書長好請祕書長好祕書長早喔這幾天大家都在討論這個一般性補助跟行政院的關係說要來杯葛你們說你們亂砍了他們的預算我還是再次請教喔請問祕書長這個預算到底是誰砍的啊\n\n00:27.814 --> 00:55.149\n立法院的決議啊當然在立法院院會裡面通過的當然主要應該贊成的都是藍白的立法委員是嘛秘書長也知道嘛你們很努力的想要挽回這一筆預算跟我們立法院說不要亂砍這個砍下去傷害到的是全台的人民當時你們還苦口婆心苦口婆心的一個一個勸就算了你們也提出復議了該表達的都表達了結果立法院最後\n\n00:56.269 --> 01:00.952\n亂刪了一個900多億最後說636億要我們行政院自行去補足然後自行調科目那我看了這個要怎麼調科目啊因為他們現在就是問你拿著一把刀問你說你要砍左手還是要砍右手啊砍下去都是他們的錯啊砍下去人民都痛啊我剛剛看了一下這個其實你們這個政院的這筆預算喔\n\n01:24.625 --> 01:40.428\n有勞保啦有住宅基金啦農發基金啦農損基金啦打架的防災的經費啦還有最重要的國防預算啦也就是說如果現在我們要挑一個項目請問這些項目可以挑嗎那個都沒有辦法挑所以我們才在自然難行之下提出這個我們也不願意的一個方式\n\n01:52.857 --> 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