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00:02:18,162\n我們跟委員這邊之前一直有合作那委員也給我們協助五階段的課程但更重要的是在課綱到教科書這個布定課程這邊的體系就是能夠比較代表我們有沒有把握學校落實的情況\n\n8\n00:02:35,637 --> 00:03:01,838\n剛剛講的是課程教學第二個是老師的增能剛剛部長已經講第三個面向是我們可能在教科書有沒有真的編出來也很實際的跟國教院有合作一個獎勵計畫也是謝謝委員的指導最後一個是學校間對於有一些剛剛講的增能後像五階段課程能不能夠真正的實踐出來一年級中年級到高年級到高中\n\n9\n00:03:02,398 --> 00:03:25,498\n那這五個階段的課程能不能夠找有實驗的種子學校這也是委員協助知道只是這個的落實跟它的效數可能我們還要持續在努力我覺得希望你們這次交給我報告可不可以真實反映現況真的我們去看到問題點然後確實掌握數據然後逐步的去改善可能沒有辦法一次到位可是不能去年到現在我還是沒有看到你們真實樣態的顯現數據可是今天\n\n10\n00:03:27,820 --> 00:03:56,952\n現在給出來的數據還是一樣比較是很大的就是都覺得做得很好那我希望不能自我感覺得疲勞的交通事故死傷還是在佔比還是最高的那我請署長這邊可能要再去處理好我們來看下一頁問題二是我覺得校安通報統計分析報告裡面結論建議喔總共超了七年從一百零五年每一年我看那個報告未來喔未來的工作重點建議都相同\n\n11\n00:03:58,916 --> 00:04:16,342\n那以後是不是113年114年都不用看這報告了反正只要複製抄上複製貼上就好了嘛所以我覺得部長能不能了解一下究竟發生了什麼困難讓業務單位沒有辦法依據建議做出修正又或者是目前其實有開會討論因為我看不到就是複製貼上\n\n12\n00:04:17,813 --> 00:04:46,229\n跟委員報告因為過去都只有做全年度的分析那我們未來會做更細部的會按計做分析或針對他的發生交通事故的樣態市長是不是後邊提出來你們更細的如果你說這邊事實上不能完整表達你們意思可是問題是我只看你們的報告裡面我真的看到七年來都是這樣子那不太對啊那你真的要解決校安的問題應該要有具體的未來的工作重點然後再來看問題三就是說\n\n13\n00:04:46,889 --> 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