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00:00:34,208\n委員午安好主任你好每次只要談到各自台灣人都非常敏感我看到一個有趣的新聞跟主任分享但我覺得台灣很難做到啦看到那個因應歐洲的這個緊張的情勢德國最近要聯絡他們的退伍軍人結果各自保護得太好竟然找不到人我覺得這事情非常神奇但我覺得台灣一步步走到那邊我們需要很長的時間等一下有個故事也可以跟委員分享看但是他們叫我要準時下來這樣是是是好\n\n3\n00:00:36,209 --> 00:00:50,511\n也就是說個資這件事情確實有很大的進步空間那現在散落在各個單位的個資管理我認為未來我們台灣需要一個完整的個資保護政策我也期待後續的修法我們可以往這裡前進目前我們看到就公務機關來看\n\n4\n00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:51,853\n是是\n\n5\n00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:35,417\n我們來看下一個,這也是最近一直發生的新聞,其實台灣的人民會很不舒服,包含南投、花蓮、基隆都有這些民政機關,他們不當的利用公民的個資做反霸這個事情。\n\n6\n00:01:36,058 --> 00:02:01,980\n那当然这个新闻呛降的个案确实会让人民意识到各资这件事情看起来不会只有过往大家熟悉的私部门企业其实在很多公务机关里面确实有这个状态但时间有限我想后续在修法的时候我们持续往这里前进所以要拜托各资会成立后针对避免公务员不当利用各资的部分做防治跟拟定相关政策还要拜托各资会筹备处成立\n\n7\n00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:19,175\n整理出目前你們已經有掌握到公務員違反個資法的常見樣態對於後續的行政機關做相關教育跟宣導這些事情有沒有機會在半年內完成委員榮獲業這部分其實走在我們前面做的更多是法務部的廉政署\n\n8\n00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:35,245\n因為他們對於所有的公部門有關於說資料不能去做誤用那你能不能說因為他們做的確比較多所以你們可以跟他們請教把他們有收集到這些相關的樣態做你們後續修法如何防止公務機關這個部分我們再跟他們請教來下一張\n\n9\n00:02:43,428 --> 00:03:09,646\n那除了這個好下一個來民間前一張民間企業的部分其實人民也很多疑慮啦從我們一般人都很熟悉的最近有醫院的各自外卸的問題電信啦百貨啦超商啦電商其實一陣子一陣子都會有相關新聞那目前甚至其實前一陣子也有韓國電信各自外卸的問題我相信像這樣的私部門企業我們到底後續可以怎麼做應該也是你們後續要討論的方向\n\n10\n00:03:11,407 --> 00:03:39,411\n接下來還有一個我覺得也比較詭異的但是確實在台灣發生過在2018年當時體育單項協會有人頭會員的問題後來是因為檢調單位介入相關的事情才有開始稍微調整這個狀態我們也很擔心後續也就是說在各式各樣的機構只要他們有各式各樣的資料就有可能做不當的利用所以時間有限我們直接切到最後一張我要拜託各資會在針對後續各資法修法的部分只要有涉及\n\n11\n00:03:39,631 --> 00:04:07,465\n大量的個人資料而且有公共安全的一律的私部門都要加強納管的強度當然需要跟相關團體討論收集民間第一線的聲音不要只有閉門造局但我認為私部門這件事情非常重要還有就是我剛剛說的針對體育單項協會因為未來運動部成立之後一定會有相關的樣態可能是我們必須要去注意到的我今天也一併提醒好不好好那時間還有八分八秒鐘你要不要講那個有趣的故事德國那個\n\n12\n00:04:08,465 --> 00:04:35,844\n太短了就是其實一樣德國我記得在2015年的時候他們有一個德國之夜的航空公司因為副駕駛開飛機去撞山大家可能還有這個印象死了150人當時我就面臨一個問題德國的那個各自法院管制的真的很嚴格那明明是精神醫師是知道說這個副駕駛他有些精神狀況但是因為沒有具體作用法去說他這個東西要去跟就是說\n\n13\n00:04:37,185 --> 00:04:48,839\n航空所謂的民航局單位去做通報所以就變成這個資訊因為在德國他們是特種個人資料所以就沒有去做提供因為各自保護管制很嚴\n\n14\n00:04:49,520 --> 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