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00:02:31,054\n每年的產值是逐年增加的那想要請教主委跟主任的是說隨著福衛八號的一顆衛星的升空我們未來是不是有更多的規劃來帶動國內太空相關產業的這個產值的提升同時我們看到最近英國的工黨台灣之友會的訪團有要來台灣也要訪問這個太空中心\n\n9\n00:02:48,564 --> 00:02:57,353\n那所以我也想請教說我們到底近期有沒有跟國際的一些交流的規劃先主委回答再主任回答\n\n10\n00:02:57,930 --> 00:03:22,305\n好謝謝委員的確我們這個福威八號是第一顆衛星我們陸續會打總共會有八顆那將來都是會我們自製的以前都大量仰賴美國現在都是我們自己設計自己製造目前自製率已經達到84%所以未來這個遙測衛星的技術台灣幾乎就可以完全自己掌握了\n\n11\n00:03:23,045 --> 00:03:35,512\n至於未來還有福衛9號,我們會把光學的探測,將來還會再加上核心孔徑雷達的技術,所以全天候都可以來監測我們的國土\n\n12\n00:03:39,375 --> 00:04:08,675\n那個通信衛星的部分我們現在已經開始在設計了那兩年後就會開始打第一顆所以這個都按照我們的規劃在進行當中那其中跟國外的這種合作現在也因為我們的實力慢慢展現了所以更多的這個國際的合作的夥伴願意來跟台灣合作了我們如果沒有實力沒有人會來跟我們談所以實力在於我們產業的建置所以我們現在太空三喜的計畫修正案最大的亮點就是把我們的產業鏈慢慢把它組起來\n\n13\n00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:33,474\n臺灣的產業實力全世界都知道所以跟我們合作對他們一定會有好處的那我們也因為跟他們合作以後將來我們自主的設計能力也會提升所以這個是確保我們未來產業發展以及國家安全一個很重要的策略改變謝謝委員火箭的部分你來排我補充一下就是工黨他是今天下午會去太空中心訪問\n\n14\n00:04:36,415 --> 00:04:59,320\n對除了這個以外未來還有什麼要跟國際交流的計畫其實像火箭的研發我們採用的未來是液態引擎這一方面我想很多技術台灣其實不一定完全被變所以我們透過很多國際合作的方式來取得部分的技術讓我們更快所以我們往這方面一直在擴展一些國際合作好謝謝\n\n15\n00:05:02,781 --> 00:05:29,527\n那再來想要跟主委探討這個運動科技的議題運動部要在今年9月9號就要掛牌那我想跟運科中心合作來進行運動科技的研發那來發展相關的產業然後並繼轉同時可以讓這個運科知識來普及全民我想這個是國科會任重道遠\n\n16\n00:05:30,487 --> 00:05:37,272\n那可是我們看到國科會持續執行這個精準運動科學研究專案暨擴大運科能量這個計畫而且我們今年並要用這個台灣運動文化研究專案計畫這個題目向學研增建那去年我在預算審查的時候也有提案就是說我們要求運動科研的成果要普及這個全民那甚至要對身心障礙者有照顧\n\n17\n00:05:59,369 --> 00:06:08,352\n那所以我們要針對如何讓運科的成果來普及那首先要請教說未來我們除了相關的成果來寄轉給產業界那我們是不是也會會同運動部未來的運動部跟輔導來輔導地方政府體育局的相關局處來進行運科技術或知識的推廣\n\n18\n00:06:24,238 --> 00:06:42,837\n也就是說我們讓地方政府去執行讓技術跟成果可以深入這個地方社區然後再來就是說國科會的這個所謂的科普環島列車是不是也來加入說因為他加入這個容易推廣的這個運科知識跟小朋友做介紹以上幾個問題\n\n19\n00:06:44,218 --> 00:06:58,062\n好非常感謝林委員林委員其實上次的這個建議我們都納進來了我們現在除了在運動科技這種科技研發的計畫持續在推動之外我們的確也是在文化面希望把這個運動跟文化能夠結合因為讓人民\n\n20\n00:07:01,903 --> 00:07:18,887\n更願意去親近這個運動更願意從事運動所以全民運動的部分我們透過這個科技的發展創造很多的那個工具跟這個方法讓民眾更容易使用這個運動的場域來增進自己的這個技能那以及我們在這個應用跟產業的發展也希望能夠創造我們的科技業願意來把運動這個領域能夠變成是它的市場\n\n21\n00:07:30,189 --> 00:07:59,549\n它的市场发展更多的科技产品来协助这个运动的发展那刚刚有提到运动部的成立我的确也是除了我们国科会在支持学界之外我也支持将来运动部现在还在体育署就是我们国家运动科学中心我也支持他们将来要进到运动科技领域来做科技技术的开发协助我们的运动员以及我们产业的发展这一部分我们都遵照委员的建议\n\n22\n00:08:00,109 --> 00:08:16,495\n好那科普環島列車科普環島列車把運動科技加進來這個其實我也跟我們的那個李處長也提了所以我們也會邀請相關的這個團隊會進來特別是那個在台南有個環球球實驗室那我們會邀請他們進來\n\n23\n00:08:19,036 --> 00:08:32,784\n好謝謝謝謝那另外再接點時間來討論一下就是說我有注意到國科會有根據行政院一個六大核心戰略產業推動的方案國防及戰略產業我們會持續來推動所謂的\n\n24\n00:08:36,366 --> 00:08:52,310\n學研中心的專案計畫那它是以跨校跨領域的建置推動這個國防科技的研究平台來進行所謂的智慧國防科技研發可是同時我們是知道說因為國防科技的應用也要顧及國安那國防部近期要研擬設置接觸機密資格認證的機制\n\n25\n00:08:59,452 --> 00:09:11,037\n就是說未來將以涉密的等級來定期查核以防止滲透那舉例來說像無人機跟衛星的研發它都是所謂的國家核心科技戰略產業那萬一在研發跟應用的過程某個環節的關鍵資料被洩漏那後果當然不堪設想那所以我有疑問的是說軍民良用的這個科學技術太多\n\n26\n00:09:25,023 --> 00:09:32,466\n所以部分國防科技的納管就相當重要我們知道說國科會有建立國家核心關鍵技術保護的清單用來強化國家核心關鍵技術的營業秘密的保護那不過說在這個智慧國防科技研發的學研階段我們是不是有將類似國防部這種接觸機密資格認證的機制\n\n27\n00:09:49,092 --> 00:10:02,396\n或者說國科會現在有沒有相關的法令來規範國防科技研發的這種機密的查核我們現在按照行政院的規範有在進行當中現在都有這個機密的查核都有謝謝主委非常感謝委員謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3736\t8720\t謝謝主席 有請吳主委還有太空中心太空阿伯吳主任好 請吳主委吳主任備質詢 謝謝\n17414\t33145\t主委好首先本席因為今天是處理解凍案所以本席還是要對於去年藍白提案大動我們各科學園區的預算業務費的這件事情表示最深的遺憾\n33985\t41112\t因為科學園區的業務費我們都很清楚是它是直接 間接影響我們園區裡頭的廠商尤其是這個設備養護這種項目更是攸關這個關鍵設施的正常運作那\n49520\t76129\t而且這是科學園區的這個凍結案去年國民黨在提案單上複製貼上被抓到所以當然很清楚知道就是說他們某程度把這個凍結案特別是這個項目當作是兒戲來看所以確實是感到很遺憾那我們一定是支持解凍那當然該有的監督也不會少所以\n77469\t82433\t接下來就來進行我今天關心的議題那我仍然關心太空發展那因為賴總統有視察我們福衛八號的進展跟產業深耕計畫的成果那總統有說福衛八號在開發過程所累積的這個技術跟經驗會結合台灣的既有的資通訊啊 精密機械啊然後還有電機的產業優勢來協助這個太空發展\n106713\t119261\t的產業來練兵來穩健整個我們邁向國際太空市場的腳步那我想第三期的國家太空科技發展長城計畫這個我們現在在致力推動\n122463\t139708\t那據報導好像福衛八號的第一顆衛星也預計在今年的十月會正式升空服役那我想台灣太空的產業產值我想不比其他的太空大國可是我想根據太空中心的回應整體而言\n141488\t151054\t每年的產值是逐年增加的那想要請教主委跟主任的是說隨著福衛八號的一顆衛星的升空我們未來是不是有更多的規劃來帶動國內太空相關產業的這個產值的提升同時我們看到最近英國的工黨台灣之友會的訪團有要來台灣也要訪問這個太空中心\n168564\t177353\t那所以我也想請教說我們到底近期有沒有跟國際的一些交流的規劃先主委回答再主任回答\n177930\t202305\t好 謝謝委員的確我們這個福威八號是第一顆衛星我們陸續會打總共會有八顆那將來都是會我們自製的以前都大量仰賴美國現在都是我們自己設計自己製造目前自製率已經達到84%所以未來這個遙測衛星的技術台灣幾乎就可以完全自己掌握了\n203045\t215512\t至於未來還有福衛9號,我們會把光學的探測,將來還會再加上核心孔徑雷達的技術,所以全天候都可以來監測我們的國土\n219375\t248675\t那個通信衛星的部分我們現在已經開始在設計了那兩年後就會開始打第一顆所以這個都按照我們的規劃在進行當中那其中跟國外的這種合作現在也因為我們的實力慢慢展現了所以更多的這個國際的合作的夥伴願意來跟台灣合作了我們如果沒有實力沒有人會來跟我們談所以實力在於我們產業的建置所以我們現在太空三喜的計畫修正案最大的亮點就是把我們的產業鏈慢慢把它組起來\n249916\t273474\t臺灣的產業實力全世界都知道所以跟我們合作對他們一定會有好處的那我們也因為跟他們合作以後將來我們自主的設計能力也會提升所以這個是確保我們未來產業發展以及國家安全一個很重要的策略改變謝謝委員火箭的部分你來排我補充一下就是工黨他是今天下午會去太空中心訪問\n276415\t299320\t對 除了這個以外 未來還有什麼要跟國際交流的計畫其實像火箭的研發我們採用的未來是液態引擎這一方面我想很多技術台灣其實不一定完全被變所以我們透過很多國際合作的方式來取得部分的技術讓我們更快所以我們往這方面一直在擴展一些國際合作好 謝謝\n302781\t329527\t那再來想要跟主委探討這個運動科技的議題運動部要在今年9月9號就要掛牌那我想跟運科中心合作來進行運動科技的研發那來發展相關的產業然後並繼轉同時可以讓這個運科知識來普及全民我想這個是國科會任重道遠\n330487\t337272\t那可是我們看到國科會持續執行這個精準運動科學研究專案暨擴大運科能量這個計畫而且我們今年並要用這個台灣運動文化研究專案計畫這個題目向學研增建那去年我在預算審查的時候也有提案就是說我們要求運動科研的成果要普及這個全民那甚至要對身心障礙者有照顧\n359369\t368352\t那所以我們要針對如何讓運科的成果來普及那首先要請教說未來我們除了相關的成果來寄轉給產業界那我們是不是也會會同運動部未來的運動部跟輔導來輔導地方政府體育局的相關局處來進行運科技術或知識的推廣\n384238\t402837\t也就是說我們讓地方政府去執行讓技術跟成果可以深入這個地方社區然後再來就是說國科會的這個所謂的科普環島列車是不是也來加入說因為他加入這個容易推廣的這個運科知識跟小朋友做介紹 以上幾個問題\n404218\t418062\t好 非常感謝林委員林委員其實上次的這個建議我們都納進來了我們現在除了在運動科技這種科技研發的計畫持續在推動之外我們的確也是在文化面希望把這個運動跟文化能夠結合因為讓人民\n421903\t438887\t更願意去親近這個運動更願意從事運動所以全民運動的部分我們透過這個科技的發展創造很多的那個工具跟這個方法讓民眾更容易使用這個運動的場域來增進自己的這個技能那以及我們在這個應用跟產業的發展也希望能夠創造我們的科技業願意來把運動這個領域能夠變成是它的市場\n450189\t479549\t它的市场发展更多的科技产品来协助这个运动的发展那刚刚有提到运动部的成立我的确也是除了我们国科会在支持学界之外我也支持将来运动部现在还在体育署就是我们国家运动科学中心我也支持他们将来要进到运动科技领域来做科技技术的开发协助我们的运动员以及我们产业的发展这一部分我们都遵照委员的建议\n480109\t496495\t好 那科普環島列車科普環島列車把運動科技加進來這個其實我也跟我們的那個李處長也提了所以我們也會邀請相關的這個團隊會進來特別是那個在台南有個環球球實驗室那我們會邀請他們進來\n499036\t512784\t好 謝謝 謝謝那另外再接點時間來討論一下就是說我有注意到國科會有根據行政院一個六大核心戰略產業推動的方案國防及戰略產業我們會持續來推動所謂的\n516366\t532310\t學研中心的專案計畫那它是以跨校跨領域的建置推動這個國防科技的研究平台來進行所謂的智慧國防科技研發可是同時我們是知道說因為國防科技的應用也要顧及國安那國防部近期要研擬設置接觸機密資格認證的機制\n539452\t551037\t就是說未來將以涉密的等級來定期查核以防止滲透那舉例來說像無人機跟衛星的研發它都是所謂的國家核心科技戰略產業那萬一在研發跟應用的過程某個環節的關鍵資料被洩漏那後果當然不堪設想那所以我有疑問的是說軍民良用的這個科學技術太多\n565023\t572466\t所以部分國防科技的納管就相當重要我們知道說國科會有建立國家核心關鍵技術保護的清單用來強化國家核心關鍵技術的營業秘密的保護那不過說在這個智慧國防科技研發的學研階段我們是不是有將類似國防部這種接觸機密資格認證的機制\n589092\t602396\t或者說國科會現在有沒有相關的法令來規範國防科技研發的這種機密的查核我們現在按照行政院的規範有在進行當中現在都有這個機密的查核都有謝謝主委非常感謝委員謝謝主席\n","txt":"謝謝主席 有請吳主委還有太空中心太空阿伯吳主任好 請吳主委吳主任備質詢 謝謝\n主委好首先本席因為今天是處理解凍案所以本席還是要對於去年藍白提案大動我們各科學園區的預算業務費的這件事情表示最深的遺憾\n因為科學園區的業務費我們都很清楚是它是直接 間接影響我們園區裡頭的廠商尤其是這個設備養護這種項目更是攸關這個關鍵設施的正常運作那\n而且這是科學園區的這個凍結案去年國民黨在提案單上複製貼上被抓到所以當然很清楚知道就是說他們某程度把這個凍結案特別是這個項目當作是兒戲來看所以確實是感到很遺憾那我們一定是支持解凍那當然該有的監督也不會少所以\n接下來就來進行我今天關心的議題那我仍然關心太空發展那因為賴總統有視察我們福衛八號的進展跟產業深耕計畫的成果那總統有說福衛八號在開發過程所累積的這個技術跟經驗會結合台灣的既有的資通訊啊 精密機械啊然後還有電機的產業優勢來協助這個太空發展\n的產業來練兵來穩健整個我們邁向國際太空市場的腳步那我想第三期的國家太空科技發展長城計畫這個我們現在在致力推動\n那據報導好像福衛八號的第一顆衛星也預計在今年的十月會正式升空服役那我想台灣太空的產業產值我想不比其他的太空大國可是我想根據太空中心的回應整體而言\n每年的產值是逐年增加的那想要請教主委跟主任的是說隨著福衛八號的一顆衛星的升空我們未來是不是有更多的規劃來帶動國內太空相關產業的這個產值的提升同時我們看到最近英國的工黨台灣之友會的訪團有要來台灣也要訪問這個太空中心\n那所以我也想請教說我們到底近期有沒有跟國際的一些交流的規劃先主委回答再主任回答\n好 謝謝委員的確我們這個福威八號是第一顆衛星我們陸續會打總共會有八顆那將來都是會我們自製的以前都大量仰賴美國現在都是我們自己設計自己製造目前自製率已經達到84%所以未來這個遙測衛星的技術台灣幾乎就可以完全自己掌握了\n至於未來還有福衛9號,我們會把光學的探測,將來還會再加上核心孔徑雷達的技術,所以全天候都可以來監測我們的國土\n那個通信衛星的部分我們現在已經開始在設計了那兩年後就會開始打第一顆所以這個都按照我們的規劃在進行當中那其中跟國外的這種合作現在也因為我們的實力慢慢展現了所以更多的這個國際的合作的夥伴願意來跟台灣合作了我們如果沒有實力沒有人會來跟我們談所以實力在於我們產業的建置所以我們現在太空三喜的計畫修正案最大的亮點就是把我們的產業鏈慢慢把它組起來\n臺灣的產業實力全世界都知道所以跟我們合作對他們一定會有好處的那我們也因為跟他們合作以後將來我們自主的設計能力也會提升所以這個是確保我們未來產業發展以及國家安全一個很重要的策略改變謝謝委員火箭的部分你來排我補充一下就是工黨他是今天下午會去太空中心訪問\n對 除了這個以外 未來還有什麼要跟國際交流的計畫其實像火箭的研發我們採用的未來是液態引擎這一方面我想很多技術台灣其實不一定完全被變所以我們透過很多國際合作的方式來取得部分的技術讓我們更快所以我們往這方面一直在擴展一些國際合作好 謝謝\n那再來想要跟主委探討這個運動科技的議題運動部要在今年9月9號就要掛牌那我想跟運科中心合作來進行運動科技的研發那來發展相關的產業然後並繼轉同時可以讓這個運科知識來普及全民我想這個是國科會任重道遠\n那可是我們看到國科會持續執行這個精準運動科學研究專案暨擴大運科能量這個計畫而且我們今年並要用這個台灣運動文化研究專案計畫這個題目向學研增建那去年我在預算審查的時候也有提案就是說我們要求運動科研的成果要普及這個全民那甚至要對身心障礙者有照顧\n那所以我們要針對如何讓運科的成果來普及那首先要請教說未來我們除了相關的成果來寄轉給產業界那我們是不是也會會同運動部未來的運動部跟輔導來輔導地方政府體育局的相關局處來進行運科技術或知識的推廣\n也就是說我們讓地方政府去執行讓技術跟成果可以深入這個地方社區然後再來就是說國科會的這個所謂的科普環島列車是不是也來加入說因為他加入這個容易推廣的這個運科知識跟小朋友做介紹 以上幾個問題\n好 非常感謝林委員林委員其實上次的這個建議我們都納進來了我們現在除了在運動科技這種科技研發的計畫持續在推動之外我們的確也是在文化面希望把這個運動跟文化能夠結合因為讓人民\n更願意去親近這個運動更願意從事運動所以全民運動的部分我們透過這個科技的發展創造很多的那個工具跟這個方法讓民眾更容易使用這個運動的場域來增進自己的這個技能那以及我們在這個應用跟產業的發展也希望能夠創造我們的科技業願意來把運動這個領域能夠變成是它的市場\n它的市场发展更多的科技产品来协助这个运动的发展那刚刚有提到运动部的成立我的确也是除了我们国科会在支持学界之外我也支持将来运动部现在还在体育署就是我们国家运动科学中心我也支持他们将来要进到运动科技领域来做科技技术的开发协助我们的运动员以及我们产业的发展这一部分我们都遵照委员的建议\n好 那科普環島列車科普環島列車把運動科技加進來這個其實我也跟我們的那個李處長也提了所以我們也會邀請相關的這個團隊會進來特別是那個在台南有個環球球實驗室那我們會邀請他們進來\n好 謝謝 謝謝那另外再接點時間來討論一下就是說我有注意到國科會有根據行政院一個六大核心戰略產業推動的方案國防及戰略產業我們會持續來推動所謂的\n學研中心的專案計畫那它是以跨校跨領域的建置推動這個國防科技的研究平台來進行所謂的智慧國防科技研發可是同時我們是知道說因為國防科技的應用也要顧及國安那國防部近期要研擬設置接觸機密資格認證的機制\n就是說未來將以涉密的等級來定期查核以防止滲透那舉例來說像無人機跟衛星的研發它都是所謂的國家核心科技戰略產業那萬一在研發跟應用的過程某個環節的關鍵資料被洩漏那後果當然不堪設想那所以我有疑問的是說軍民良用的這個科學技術太多\n所以部分國防科技的納管就相當重要我們知道說國科會有建立國家核心關鍵技術保護的清單用來強化國家核心關鍵技術的營業秘密的保護那不過說在這個智慧國防科技研發的學研階段我們是不是有將類似國防部這種接觸機密資格認證的機制\n或者說國科會現在有沒有相關的法令來規範國防科技研發的這種機密的查核我們現在按照行政院的規範有在進行當中現在都有這個機密的查核都有謝謝主委非常感謝委員謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.736 --> 00:08.720\n謝謝主席有請吳主委還有太空中心太空阿伯吳主任好請吳主委吳主任備質詢謝謝\n\n00:17.414 --> 00:33.145\n主委好首先本席因為今天是處理解凍案所以本席還是要對於去年藍白提案大動我們各科學園區的預算業務費的這件事情表示最深的遺憾\n\n00:33.985 --> 00:41.112\n因為科學園區的業務費我們都很清楚是它是直接間接影響我們園區裡頭的廠商尤其是這個設備養護這種項目更是攸關這個關鍵設施的正常運作那\n\n00:49.520 --> 01:16.129\n而且這是科學園區的這個凍結案去年國民黨在提案單上複製貼上被抓到所以當然很清楚知道就是說他們某程度把這個凍結案特別是這個項目當作是兒戲來看所以確實是感到很遺憾那我們一定是支持解凍那當然該有的監督也不會少所以\n\n01:17.469 --> 01:22.433\n接下來就來進行我今天關心的議題那我仍然關心太空發展那因為賴總統有視察我們福衛八號的進展跟產業深耕計畫的成果那總統有說福衛八號在開發過程所累積的這個技術跟經驗會結合台灣的既有的資通訊啊精密機械啊然後還有電機的產業優勢來協助這個太空發展\n\n01:46.713 --> 01:59.261\n的產業來練兵來穩健整個我們邁向國際太空市場的腳步那我想第三期的國家太空科技發展長城計畫這個我們現在在致力推動\n\n02:02.463 --> 02:19.708\n那據報導好像福衛八號的第一顆衛星也預計在今年的十月會正式升空服役那我想台灣太空的產業產值我想不比其他的太空大國可是我想根據太空中心的回應整體而言\n\n02:21.488 --> 02:31.054\n每年的產值是逐年增加的那想要請教主委跟主任的是說隨著福衛八號的一顆衛星的升空我們未來是不是有更多的規劃來帶動國內太空相關產業的這個產值的提升同時我們看到最近英國的工黨台灣之友會的訪團有要來台灣也要訪問這個太空中心\n\n02:48.564 --> 02:57.353\n那所以我也想請教說我們到底近期有沒有跟國際的一些交流的規劃先主委回答再主任回答\n\n02:57.930 --> 03:22.305\n好謝謝委員的確我們這個福威八號是第一顆衛星我們陸續會打總共會有八顆那將來都是會我們自製的以前都大量仰賴美國現在都是我們自己設計自己製造目前自製率已經達到84%所以未來這個遙測衛星的技術台灣幾乎就可以完全自己掌握了\n\n03:23.045 --> 03:35.512\n至於未來還有福衛9號,我們會把光學的探測,將來還會再加上核心孔徑雷達的技術,所以全天候都可以來監測我們的國土\n\n03:39.375 --> 04:08.675\n那個通信衛星的部分我們現在已經開始在設計了那兩年後就會開始打第一顆所以這個都按照我們的規劃在進行當中那其中跟國外的這種合作現在也因為我們的實力慢慢展現了所以更多的這個國際的合作的夥伴願意來跟台灣合作了我們如果沒有實力沒有人會來跟我們談所以實力在於我們產業的建置所以我們現在太空三喜的計畫修正案最大的亮點就是把我們的產業鏈慢慢把它組起來\n\n04:09.916 --> 04:33.474\n臺灣的產業實力全世界都知道所以跟我們合作對他們一定會有好處的那我們也因為跟他們合作以後將來我們自主的設計能力也會提升所以這個是確保我們未來產業發展以及國家安全一個很重要的策略改變謝謝委員火箭的部分你來排我補充一下就是工黨他是今天下午會去太空中心訪問\n\n04:36.415 --> 04:59.320\n對除了這個以外未來還有什麼要跟國際交流的計畫其實像火箭的研發我們採用的未來是液態引擎這一方面我想很多技術台灣其實不一定完全被變所以我們透過很多國際合作的方式來取得部分的技術讓我們更快所以我們往這方面一直在擴展一些國際合作好謝謝\n\n05:02.781 --> 05:29.527\n那再來想要跟主委探討這個運動科技的議題運動部要在今年9月9號就要掛牌那我想跟運科中心合作來進行運動科技的研發那來發展相關的產業然後並繼轉同時可以讓這個運科知識來普及全民我想這個是國科會任重道遠\n\n05:30.487 --> 05:37.272\n那可是我們看到國科會持續執行這個精準運動科學研究專案暨擴大運科能量這個計畫而且我們今年並要用這個台灣運動文化研究專案計畫這個題目向學研增建那去年我在預算審查的時候也有提案就是說我們要求運動科研的成果要普及這個全民那甚至要對身心障礙者有照顧\n\n05:59.369 --> 06:08.352\n那所以我們要針對如何讓運科的成果來普及那首先要請教說未來我們除了相關的成果來寄轉給產業界那我們是不是也會會同運動部未來的運動部跟輔導來輔導地方政府體育局的相關局處來進行運科技術或知識的推廣\n\n06:24.238 --> 06:42.837\n也就是說我們讓地方政府去執行讓技術跟成果可以深入這個地方社區然後再來就是說國科會的這個所謂的科普環島列車是不是也來加入說因為他加入這個容易推廣的這個運科知識跟小朋友做介紹以上幾個問題\n\n06:44.218 --> 06:58.062\n好非常感謝林委員林委員其實上次的這個建議我們都納進來了我們現在除了在運動科技這種科技研發的計畫持續在推動之外我們的確也是在文化面希望把這個運動跟文化能夠結合因為讓人民\n\n07:01.903 --> 07:18.887\n更願意去親近這個運動更願意從事運動所以全民運動的部分我們透過這個科技的發展創造很多的那個工具跟這個方法讓民眾更容易使用這個運動的場域來增進自己的這個技能那以及我們在這個應用跟產業的發展也希望能夠創造我們的科技業願意來把運動這個領域能夠變成是它的市場\n\n07:30.189 --> 07:59.549\n它的市场发展更多的科技产品来协助这个运动的发展那刚刚有提到运动部的成立我的确也是除了我们国科会在支持学界之外我也支持将来运动部现在还在体育署就是我们国家运动科学中心我也支持他们将来要进到运动科技领域来做科技技术的开发协助我们的运动员以及我们产业的发展这一部分我们都遵照委员的建议\n\n08:00.109 --> 08:16.495\n好那科普環島列車科普環島列車把運動科技加進來這個其實我也跟我們的那個李處長也提了所以我們也會邀請相關的這個團隊會進來特別是那個在台南有個環球球實驗室那我們會邀請他們進來\n\n08:19.036 --> 08:32.784\n好謝謝謝謝那另外再接點時間來討論一下就是說我有注意到國科會有根據行政院一個六大核心戰略產業推動的方案國防及戰略產業我們會持續來推動所謂的\n\n08:36.366 --> 08:52.310\n學研中心的專案計畫那它是以跨校跨領域的建置推動這個國防科技的研究平台來進行所謂的智慧國防科技研發可是同時我們是知道說因為國防科技的應用也要顧及國安那國防部近期要研擬設置接觸機密資格認證的機制\n\n08:59.452 --> 09:11.037\n就是說未來將以涉密的等級來定期查核以防止滲透那舉例來說像無人機跟衛星的研發它都是所謂的國家核心科技戰略產業那萬一在研發跟應用的過程某個環節的關鍵資料被洩漏那後果當然不堪設想那所以我有疑問的是說軍民良用的這個科學技術太多\n\n09:25.023 --> 09:32.466\n所以部分國防科技的納管就相當重要我們知道說國科會有建立國家核心關鍵技術保護的清單用來強化國家核心關鍵技術的營業秘密的保護那不過說在這個智慧國防科技研發的學研階段我們是不是有將類似國防部這種接觸機密資格認證的機制\n\n09:49.092 --> 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