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00:03:55,811\n那各自因為也有一些因地制宜性像原住民地區有些是在山區那有些是在海邊那其實他要適用的內容其實就不太一樣那所以我們是希望他能夠我們都把比較完整的東西拿出來那希望各縣市政府來參照這樣的方式來訂那再依據自己的需要自己去取決這樣事實上是這樣這個你知道我等一下也會繼續談過去一直還沒有完成的部分\n\n10\n00:03:58,201 --> 00:04:16,217\n確實有需要啦只不過是因為這個地方政府有時候沒有去考慮到這個實際的問題然後有這樣的一個法律的授權然後他並沒有做很好的一個處理所以要請這個\n\n11\n00:04:18,749 --> 00:04:46,151\n當然我們未來這個條文還會再討論應該要怎麼去修正才會是最好的部分所以這個部分在這段時間剛才有這個也有提到這個一個月也能夠做把這樣的一個資料各縣市政府目前已經訂的他的這個有什麼樣的相同的或是不同的能夠做一個\n\n12\n00:04:47,794 --> 00:05:14,573\n給我們做審查這個條文的時候的一個參考好可以嗎我們當然是希望透過授權啦因為授權地方的因地質疑性會比較好那所以我們現在大原則上是說我們盡可能是鼓勵地方政府有完整的東西去談那至於母法上我們還是保持它原來的談心就可以對我們在因為畢竟要審查嘛所以我們要希望需要了解\n\n13\n00:05:15,373 --> 00:05:43,705\n目前已經有定的縣市政府他的條文然後的差異如何啊好不好做一個做一個整理啊好好好另外就是也提了很多次了哈這個當然你等一下會說因為國土計劃法啊又延長了啊但是還是要去解決原鄉啊原鄉這些部落這些土地\n\n14\n00:05:44,232 --> 00:06:08,972\n然後竟然不能蓋房子而這個都會區的山坡地在都會區啊基隆啊新北啊這些都會區的山坡地比我們在原鄉部落的還陡他們竟然可以蓋大樓我們連蓋這個一般的建築都不行啊\n\n15\n00:06:10,155 --> 00:06:36,988\n都會它是因為它是林業用地或是其他的用地這個部分畢竟還是要去解決而且解決的方式我們共同的去思考怎麼樣原住民的部落先行在國土計畫法裡面怎麼樣有沒有可能解釋的空間如果沒有解釋的空間那怎麼樣去修\n\n16\n00:06:38,396 --> 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