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00:00:59,833\n私謠是這個議題從上一屆開始催生倡議所以我2022年5月25號第一槍來質詢當時的文化部長李永德那李部長sayyes所以呢就重組了重新啟動了這個推動會因為在阿扁總統任內陳玉秀文件會前主委開始\n\n4\n00:01:01,941 --> 00:01:26,283\n運作的這個委員會其實已經Pending暫緩一段時間所以在2022年541的要求之下重啟這個推動會我謝謝文化部重新動起來而2023年我持續的質詢陳建仁前院長以及當時的文化部長變成史哲了我謝謝史哲部長他不只SayYes他還同步除了\n\n5\n00:01:27,083 --> 00:01:51,159\n有形文化遗产的委员会他还新设了一个非物质文化遗产的委员会也就是有形无形我们要双轨并进一直到新的届期行政院长换成了卓龙泰然后李远李部长上任之后我们更进一步的召开了两个推动会而且有高度的共识有形文化遗产的部分以阿里山的森林铁路\n\n6\n00:01:57,063 --> 00:02:25,822\n也列定了12個非夷來納入潛力推動而我也不放棄我一直說文化跟外交兩個部要強強聯手所以我再一次到外交委員會質詢外交部長林佳龍他也同意要一起納入外交部的力量讓文化部不會孤軍奮戰所以一路走來重啟深列世界文化一戰我們是ING進行式下一頁\n\n7\n00:02:27,045 --> 00:02:54,821\n而現在是最好的時機我當時在2022重啟倡議的時候那時候國際對於台灣的支持還沒有現在這個當下那麼的強大所以搭配著其實我們現在沒有辦法升列是因為我們不是聯合國的成員也不是締約國嘛所以說這當然是我們眼前政治的困難也是中國一再打壓之下我們的\n\n8\n00:02:56,042 --> 00:03:07,272\n受壓力受阻可是當聯合國這麼多國家越來越多國家甚至美國在安理會裡頭鬥地台灣發聲要重新針對2758號決議為台灣平反所以鍛煉了很久的政治議題我們要用文化來縫合現在就是最好的時機下頁\n\n9\n00:03:20,524 --> 00:03:36,808\n所以說萬事俱備只欠東風我們的主觀條件做好準備客觀的國際情勢有利於我們的時候我們就能夠因為我們Ready了所以我一直在倡議台灣即使不是聯合國的會員可是我們參與國際組織跟聯合國的各個轄下機構我們都不遺餘力\n\n10\n00:03:44,870 --> 00:04:08,660\n世界衛生組織每年都在倡議國際民航組織聯合國氣候變化綱要公約我們即便不是聯合國成員我們也宣示了我們跟進氣候變化公約我們的所有的國際法規國內法我們來推動還包括要加入國際刑警組織所以文化不是outside的整個前因後果\n\n11\n00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:33,867\nUNESCO我們要努力我們也可以努力而現在是最好的時機夏業文化就是最好的外交更是最強的國防我認為我們的步驟就是用深列世界文化遺產讓世界看到台灣做好功課後面再逐步地向UNESCO來叩關好這是我們共同的策略跟願景\n\n12\n00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:51,155\n這有很多的好處我都不再贅述了強化文化保存推動文化外交落實遺產的教育實踐聯合國SDGS的精神深化台灣的文化認同而且可以促進文化觀光我們都可以不落人後好下來\n\n13\n00:04:52,176 --> 00:05:04,948\n重點來了現在有形跟無形我們要雙軌並進而且文化跟外交部強強聯手就是最好的一個安排跟籌備下一頁我就問具體的進展我看到你們有進展\n\n14\n00:05:08,621 --> 00:05:18,789\n在有形文化遺產的部分我們開了第五屆第二次會議那時候就訂定說我們要透過在國外設置一個文化據點譬如說在法國巴黎讓我們可以透過這個文化據點跟我們強化內部的整備工作去建立國際的人脈跟NGO跟UNESCO的相關外圍組織來串聯然後跨部會一起來下一頁\n\n15\n00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:50,548\n而這個文化據點在巴黎非常有意義因為UNESCO總部就在巴黎我們的台法文化獎是現在我們跟世界串聯獎項辦得最佳的我們有很好的文化歷史跟法國包括我們\n\n16\n00:05:51,368 --> 00:06:07,946\n去年的巴黎文化奧運台灣的文化奧運受到巴黎法國人很高的推崇所以我們是不是可以要設一個這個國際的據點而他就設在巴黎這件事情好像沒有下文了耶市長\n\n17\n00:06:09,631 --> 00:06:29,462\n跟委員報告的確這個決議在巴黎社據點就是去年十月份然後小野部長第一次主持這個推動會吳志忠政策也提出來的他提出這個建議所以我們原本就是希望在今年開始去現在呢因為我們今年一一四年都被刪了交流司的預算\n\n18\n00:06:31,209 --> 00:06:45,556\n我们希望就让台湾的国人来看看文化外交就因为蓝白二侃二山预算我们不只要在巴黎设一个国际文化的据点来向UNESCO扣关来深列世界文化遗产\n\n19\n00:06:46,596 --> 00:07:09,690\n都因為沒有預算沒有辦法進行但是我們如果預算得宜我們還是這個計畫還是要持續的規劃好很好繼續努力下一頁第二個我要問的是外交部必須配合協助你們去串聯NGO跟UNESCO的外圍組織下一頁是不是同樣也因為你們的\n\n20\n00:07:10,526 --> 00:07:38,619\n旅費國際的媒宣旅費國際交流的廢物都被刪了也受了影響是不是這樣是的那計劃都在只是沒錢對Keep計劃我們想辦法想方設法不能讓計劃因為預算斷垂而整個終止好嗎所以那個計劃我認為也是必要的我們強化用外圍組織的力量來前進給UNESCO更大的助力也是給他們壓力好\n\n21\n00:07:40,020 --> 00:08:05,585\n那最後一個下一個有形文化遺產我非常同意台灣不能再走回過去我們有18個遺遺潛力點18個都來或者是說地方政府不斷的來提報我們在深列世界文化遺產有形或文化跟無形都應當是用國家對之力來打世界盃所以應當是選出最強的所以現在優先選阿里山\n\n22\n00:08:06,505 --> 00:08:33,461\n的鐵道文化景觀我非常同意當然我像我的選區有這個大屯火山的這個自然景觀我也很希望但是我認為這是不是把它當作個人的政績而是這是國家對所以有形文化遺產的部分繼續來推動以阿里山的這個方案無形文化遺產我知道我們有很多原住民的這個塞夏乃琳紀這些東西持續做可是無形文化遺產我們最有潛力的就是實文化\n\n23\n00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:47,355\n我們看看日本的和食韓國的泡菜法國的法棍麵包這個義大利的披薩都因為食文化食文化不是只有食物這麼簡單它是背後的歷史脈絡社會\n\n24\n00:08:52,381 --> 00:09:11,196\n的整個story還有記憶傳承食物的烹煮各種的方式所以說以食文化來深列非物質文化遺產台灣很有潛力我們是美食的國家譬如說你讓夜市的美食變成一整個大團隊戰的概念\n\n25\n00:09:12,017 --> 00:09:27,086\n我相信你們也有在這個準備導入國際準則就學習別人怎麼去深列的然後也在這個部分還是可以接受地方提報但是是打世界盃是國家隊你們時文化的部分現在進展到哪裡了\n\n26\n00:09:28,368 --> 00:09:45,047\n石文化的部分我們在113年的時候有先委託了北藝大來做一個石文化那現在好像計畫結案了吧對4月8號我們這個案子結案了那我們就會把這個成果報告提到我們下一次的\n\n27\n00:09:45,607 --> 00:10:08,272\n討論會那是不是也可以給我這樣一個期末報告黃正燕教授是我的老師是我博士班老師而且我非常期待這個報告我真的期待我們就是很難的路我們要做好準備主觀條件做足準備萬事俱備只欠東風當國際的氛圍起來支持台灣的力道大了我們就在那個時候可以大量的迸發我們的所有的準備工作\n\n28\n00:10:11,693 --> 00:10:16,515\n好嗎不要放棄不要放棄我們可以做到的也請在野黨的委員不要砍預算不要砍預算不要砍預算我們用文化讓世界認識台灣讓世界跟台灣交朋友在野黨還要再惡砍文化預算嗎好我們繼續加油謝謝謝謝主席謝謝委員謝謝委員的支持好謝謝吳思耀委員來次郎請回我們接下來請李坤昌\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n89\t12114\t回娘家 四分鐘回娘家應該多看一下女兒啊四分鐘太短了 謝謝朝偉好 請次長好 有請次長\n15923\t36432\t首先非常非常感谢易经委员赵伟今天排的这个专案报告我相信易经委员一路也关心也知道我们从上一届开始在教文会就开始倡议了台湾的遗产就是世界的遗产深列世界遗产然后努力闯关加入UNESCO这是我们长城的行动下一页\n37832\t59833\t私謠是這個議題從上一屆開始催生倡議所以我2022年5月25號第一槍來質詢當時的文化部長李永德那李部長say yes所以呢就重組了重新啟動了這個推動會因為在阿扁總統任內陳玉秀文件會前主委開始\n61941\t86283\t運作的這個委員會其實已經Pending暫緩一段時間所以在2022年541的要求之下重啟這個推動會我謝謝文化部重新動起來而2023年我持續的質詢陳建仁前院長以及當時的文化部長變成史哲了我謝謝史哲部長他不只Say Yes他還同步除了\n87083\t111159\t有形文化遗产的委员会他还新设了一个非物质文化遗产的委员会也就是有形无形我们要双轨并进一直到新的届期行政院长换成了卓龙泰然后李远李部长上任之后我们更进一步的召开了两个推动会而且有高度的共识有形文化遗产的部分以阿里山的森林铁路\n117063\t145822\t也列定了12個非夷來納入潛力推動而我也不放棄我一直說文化跟外交兩個部要強強聯手所以我再一次到外交委員會質詢外交部長林佳龍他也同意要一起納入外交部的力量讓文化部不會孤軍奮戰所以一路走來重啟深列世界文化一戰我們是ING進行式下一頁\n147045\t174821\t而現在是最好的時機我當時在2022重啟倡議的時候那時候國際對於台灣的支持還沒有現在這個當下那麼的強大所以搭配著其實我們現在沒有辦法升列是因為我們不是聯合國的成員也不是締約國嘛所以說這當然是我們眼前政治的困難也是中國一再打壓之下我們的\n176042\t187272\t受壓力受阻可是當聯合國這麼多國家越來越多國家甚至美國在安理會裡頭鬥地台灣發聲要重新針對2758號決議為台灣平反所以鍛煉了很久的政治議題我們要用文化來縫合現在就是最好的時機下頁\n200524\t216808\t所以說萬事俱備只欠東風我們的主觀條件做好準備客觀的國際情勢有利於我們的時候我們就能夠因為我們Ready了所以我一直在倡議台灣即使不是聯合國的會員可是我們參與國際組織跟聯合國的各個轄下機構我們都不遺餘力\n224870\t248660\t世界衛生組織每年都在倡議國際民航組織聯合國氣候變化綱要公約我們即便不是聯合國成員我們也宣示了我們跟進氣候變化公約我們的所有的國際法規國內法我們來推動還包括要加入國際刑警組織所以文化不是outside的整個前因後果\n249480\t273867\tUNESCO 我們要努力 我們也可以努力而現在是最好的時機 夏業文化就是最好的外交 更是最強的國防我認為我們的步驟就是用深列世界文化遺產讓世界看到台灣做好功課後面再逐步地向UNESCO來叩關好 這是我們共同的策略跟願景\n275362\t291155\t這有很多的好處我都不再贅述了強化文化保存推動文化外交落實遺產的教育實踐聯合國SDGS的精神深化台灣的文化認同而且可以促進文化觀光我們都可以不落人後好 下來\n292176\t304948\t重點來了現在有形跟無形我們要雙軌並進而且文化跟外交部強強聯手就是最好的一個安排跟籌備下一頁我就問具體的進展我看到你們有進展\n308621\t318789\t在有形文化遺產的部分我們開了第五屆第二次會議那時候就訂定說我們要透過在國外設置一個文化據點譬如說在法國巴黎讓我們可以透過這個文化據點跟我們強化內部的整備工作去建立國際的人脈跟NGO跟UNESCO的相關外圍組織來串聯然後跨部會一起來下一頁\n333720\t350548\t而這個文化據點在巴黎非常有意義因為UNESCO總部就在巴黎我們的台法文化獎是現在我們跟世界串聯獎項辦得最佳的我們有很好的文化歷史跟法國包括我們\n351368\t367946\t去年的巴黎文化奧運台灣的文化奧運受到巴黎法國人很高的推崇所以我們是不是可以要設一個這個國際的據點而他就設在巴黎這件事情好像沒有下文了耶 市長\n369631\t389462\t跟委員報告的確這個決議在巴黎社據點就是去年十月份然後小野部長第一次主持這個推動會吳志忠政策也提出來的他提出這個建議所以我們原本就是希望在今年開始去現在呢因為我們今年一一四年都被刪了交流司的預算\n391209\t405556\t我们希望就让台湾的国人来看看文化外交就因为蓝白二侃二山预算我们不只要在巴黎设一个国际文化的据点来向UNESCO扣关来深列世界文化遗产\n406596\t429690\t都因為沒有預算沒有辦法進行但是我們如果預算得宜我們還是這個計畫還是要持續的規劃好很好繼續努力下一頁第二個我要問的是外交部必須配合協助你們去串聯NGO跟UNESCO的外圍組織下一頁是不是同樣也因為你們的\n430526\t458619\t旅費國際的媒宣旅費國際交流的廢物都被刪了也受了影響是不是這樣是的那計劃都在只是沒錢對Keep計劃我們想辦法想方設法不能讓計劃因為預算斷垂而整個終止好嗎所以那個計劃我認為也是必要的我們強化用外圍組織的力量來前進給UNESCO更大的助力也是給他們壓力好\n460020\t485585\t那最後一個下一個有形文化遺產我非常同意台灣不能再走回過去我們有18個遺遺潛力點18個都來或者是說地方政府不斷的來提報我們在深列世界文化遺產有形或文化跟無形都應當是用國家對之力來打世界盃所以應當是選出最強的所以現在優先選阿里山\n486505\t513461\t的鐵道文化景觀我非常同意當然我像我的選區有這個大屯火山的這個自然景觀我也很希望但是我認為這是不是把它當作個人的政績而是這是國家對所以有形文化遺產的部分繼續來推動以阿里山的這個方案無形文化遺產我知道我們有很多原住民的這個塞夏乃琳紀這些東西持續做可是無形文化遺產我們最有潛力的就是實文化\n514639\t527355\t我們看看日本的和食 韓國的泡菜法國的法棍麵包這個義大利的披薩都因為食文化食文化不是只有食物這麼簡單它是背後的歷史脈絡 社會\n532381\t551196\t的整個story還有記憶傳承食物的烹煮各種的方式所以說以食文化來深列非物質文化遺產台灣很有潛力我們是美食的國家譬如說你讓夜市的美食變成一整個大團隊戰的概念\n552017\t567086\t我相信你們也有在這個準備導入國際準則就學習別人怎麼去深列的然後也在這個部分還是可以接受地方提報但是是打世界盃是國家隊你們時文化的部分現在進展到哪裡了\n568368\t585047\t石文化的部分我們在113年的時候有先委託了北藝大來做一個石文化那現在好像計畫結案了吧對 4月8號我們這個案子結案了那我們就會把這個成果報告提到我們下一次的\n585607\t608272\t討論會那是不是也可以給我這樣一個期末報告黃正燕教授是我的老師是我博士班老師而且我非常期待這個報告我真的期待我們就是很難的路我們要做好準備主觀條件做足準備萬事俱備只欠東風當國際的氛圍起來支持台灣的力道大了我們就在那個時候可以大量的迸發我們的所有的準備工作\n611693\t616515\t好嗎不要放棄不要放棄我們可以做到的也請在野黨的委員不要砍預算不要砍預算不要砍預算我們用文化讓世界認識台灣讓世界跟台灣交朋友在野黨還要再惡砍文化預算嗎好我們繼續加油謝謝謝謝主席謝謝委員謝謝委員的支持好謝謝吳思耀委員來次郎請回我們接下來請李坤昌\n","txt":"回娘家 四分鐘回娘家應該多看一下女兒啊四分鐘太短了 謝謝朝偉好 請次長好 有請次長\n首先非常非常感谢易经委员赵伟今天排的这个专案报告我相信易经委员一路也关心也知道我们从上一届开始在教文会就开始倡议了台湾的遗产就是世界的遗产深列世界遗产然后努力闯关加入UNESCO这是我们长城的行动下一页\n私謠是這個議題從上一屆開始催生倡議所以我2022年5月25號第一槍來質詢當時的文化部長李永德那李部長say yes所以呢就重組了重新啟動了這個推動會因為在阿扁總統任內陳玉秀文件會前主委開始\n運作的這個委員會其實已經Pending暫緩一段時間所以在2022年541的要求之下重啟這個推動會我謝謝文化部重新動起來而2023年我持續的質詢陳建仁前院長以及當時的文化部長變成史哲了我謝謝史哲部長他不只Say Yes他還同步除了\n有形文化遗产的委员会他还新设了一个非物质文化遗产的委员会也就是有形无形我们要双轨并进一直到新的届期行政院长换成了卓龙泰然后李远李部长上任之后我们更进一步的召开了两个推动会而且有高度的共识有形文化遗产的部分以阿里山的森林铁路\n也列定了12個非夷來納入潛力推動而我也不放棄我一直說文化跟外交兩個部要強強聯手所以我再一次到外交委員會質詢外交部長林佳龍他也同意要一起納入外交部的力量讓文化部不會孤軍奮戰所以一路走來重啟深列世界文化一戰我們是ING進行式下一頁\n而現在是最好的時機我當時在2022重啟倡議的時候那時候國際對於台灣的支持還沒有現在這個當下那麼的強大所以搭配著其實我們現在沒有辦法升列是因為我們不是聯合國的成員也不是締約國嘛所以說這當然是我們眼前政治的困難也是中國一再打壓之下我們的\n受壓力受阻可是當聯合國這麼多國家越來越多國家甚至美國在安理會裡頭鬥地台灣發聲要重新針對2758號決議為台灣平反所以鍛煉了很久的政治議題我們要用文化來縫合現在就是最好的時機下頁\n所以說萬事俱備只欠東風我們的主觀條件做好準備客觀的國際情勢有利於我們的時候我們就能夠因為我們Ready了所以我一直在倡議台灣即使不是聯合國的會員可是我們參與國際組織跟聯合國的各個轄下機構我們都不遺餘力\n世界衛生組織每年都在倡議國際民航組織聯合國氣候變化綱要公約我們即便不是聯合國成員我們也宣示了我們跟進氣候變化公約我們的所有的國際法規國內法我們來推動還包括要加入國際刑警組織所以文化不是outside的整個前因後果\nUNESCO 我們要努力 我們也可以努力而現在是最好的時機 夏業文化就是最好的外交 更是最強的國防我認為我們的步驟就是用深列世界文化遺產讓世界看到台灣做好功課後面再逐步地向UNESCO來叩關好 這是我們共同的策略跟願景\n這有很多的好處我都不再贅述了強化文化保存推動文化外交落實遺產的教育實踐聯合國SDGS的精神深化台灣的文化認同而且可以促進文化觀光我們都可以不落人後好 下來\n重點來了現在有形跟無形我們要雙軌並進而且文化跟外交部強強聯手就是最好的一個安排跟籌備下一頁我就問具體的進展我看到你們有進展\n在有形文化遺產的部分我們開了第五屆第二次會議那時候就訂定說我們要透過在國外設置一個文化據點譬如說在法國巴黎讓我們可以透過這個文化據點跟我們強化內部的整備工作去建立國際的人脈跟NGO跟UNESCO的相關外圍組織來串聯然後跨部會一起來下一頁\n而這個文化據點在巴黎非常有意義因為UNESCO總部就在巴黎我們的台法文化獎是現在我們跟世界串聯獎項辦得最佳的我們有很好的文化歷史跟法國包括我們\n去年的巴黎文化奧運台灣的文化奧運受到巴黎法國人很高的推崇所以我們是不是可以要設一個這個國際的據點而他就設在巴黎這件事情好像沒有下文了耶 市長\n跟委員報告的確這個決議在巴黎社據點就是去年十月份然後小野部長第一次主持這個推動會吳志忠政策也提出來的他提出這個建議所以我們原本就是希望在今年開始去現在呢因為我們今年一一四年都被刪了交流司的預算\n我们希望就让台湾的国人来看看文化外交就因为蓝白二侃二山预算我们不只要在巴黎设一个国际文化的据点来向UNESCO扣关来深列世界文化遗产\n都因為沒有預算沒有辦法進行但是我們如果預算得宜我們還是這個計畫還是要持續的規劃好很好繼續努力下一頁第二個我要問的是外交部必須配合協助你們去串聯NGO跟UNESCO的外圍組織下一頁是不是同樣也因為你們的\n旅費國際的媒宣旅費國際交流的廢物都被刪了也受了影響是不是這樣是的那計劃都在只是沒錢對Keep計劃我們想辦法想方設法不能讓計劃因為預算斷垂而整個終止好嗎所以那個計劃我認為也是必要的我們強化用外圍組織的力量來前進給UNESCO更大的助力也是給他們壓力好\n那最後一個下一個有形文化遺產我非常同意台灣不能再走回過去我們有18個遺遺潛力點18個都來或者是說地方政府不斷的來提報我們在深列世界文化遺產有形或文化跟無形都應當是用國家對之力來打世界盃所以應當是選出最強的所以現在優先選阿里山\n的鐵道文化景觀我非常同意當然我像我的選區有這個大屯火山的這個自然景觀我也很希望但是我認為這是不是把它當作個人的政績而是這是國家對所以有形文化遺產的部分繼續來推動以阿里山的這個方案無形文化遺產我知道我們有很多原住民的這個塞夏乃琳紀這些東西持續做可是無形文化遺產我們最有潛力的就是實文化\n我們看看日本的和食 韓國的泡菜法國的法棍麵包這個義大利的披薩都因為食文化食文化不是只有食物這麼簡單它是背後的歷史脈絡 社會\n的整個story還有記憶傳承食物的烹煮各種的方式所以說以食文化來深列非物質文化遺產台灣很有潛力我們是美食的國家譬如說你讓夜市的美食變成一整個大團隊戰的概念\n我相信你們也有在這個準備導入國際準則就學習別人怎麼去深列的然後也在這個部分還是可以接受地方提報但是是打世界盃是國家隊你們時文化的部分現在進展到哪裡了\n石文化的部分我們在113年的時候有先委託了北藝大來做一個石文化那現在好像計畫結案了吧對 4月8號我們這個案子結案了那我們就會把這個成果報告提到我們下一次的\n討論會那是不是也可以給我這樣一個期末報告黃正燕教授是我的老師是我博士班老師而且我非常期待這個報告我真的期待我們就是很難的路我們要做好準備主觀條件做足準備萬事俱備只欠東風當國際的氛圍起來支持台灣的力道大了我們就在那個時候可以大量的迸發我們的所有的準備工作\n好嗎不要放棄不要放棄我們可以做到的也請在野黨的委員不要砍預算不要砍預算不要砍預算我們用文化讓世界認識台灣讓世界跟台灣交朋友在野黨還要再惡砍文化預算嗎好我們繼續加油謝謝謝謝主席謝謝委員謝謝委員的支持好謝謝吳思耀委員來次郎請回我們接下來請李坤昌\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:12.114\n回娘家四分鐘回娘家應該多看一下女兒啊四分鐘太短了謝謝朝偉好請次長好有請次長\n\n00:15.923 --> 00:36.432\n首先非常非常感谢易经委员赵伟今天排的这个专案报告我相信易经委员一路也关心也知道我们从上一届开始在教文会就开始倡议了台湾的遗产就是世界的遗产深列世界遗产然后努力闯关加入UNESCO这是我们长城的行动下一页\n\n00:37.832 --> 00:59.833\n私謠是這個議題從上一屆開始催生倡議所以我2022年5月25號第一槍來質詢當時的文化部長李永德那李部長sayyes所以呢就重組了重新啟動了這個推動會因為在阿扁總統任內陳玉秀文件會前主委開始\n\n01:01.941 --> 01:26.283\n運作的這個委員會其實已經Pending暫緩一段時間所以在2022年541的要求之下重啟這個推動會我謝謝文化部重新動起來而2023年我持續的質詢陳建仁前院長以及當時的文化部長變成史哲了我謝謝史哲部長他不只SayYes他還同步除了\n\n01:27.083 --> 01:51.159\n有形文化遗产的委员会他还新设了一个非物质文化遗产的委员会也就是有形无形我们要双轨并进一直到新的届期行政院长换成了卓龙泰然后李远李部长上任之后我们更进一步的召开了两个推动会而且有高度的共识有形文化遗产的部分以阿里山的森林铁路\n\n01:57.063 --> 02:25.822\n也列定了12個非夷來納入潛力推動而我也不放棄我一直說文化跟外交兩個部要強強聯手所以我再一次到外交委員會質詢外交部長林佳龍他也同意要一起納入外交部的力量讓文化部不會孤軍奮戰所以一路走來重啟深列世界文化一戰我們是ING進行式下一頁\n\n02:27.045 --> 02:54.821\n而現在是最好的時機我當時在2022重啟倡議的時候那時候國際對於台灣的支持還沒有現在這個當下那麼的強大所以搭配著其實我們現在沒有辦法升列是因為我們不是聯合國的成員也不是締約國嘛所以說這當然是我們眼前政治的困難也是中國一再打壓之下我們的\n\n02:56.042 --> 03:07.272\n受壓力受阻可是當聯合國這麼多國家越來越多國家甚至美國在安理會裡頭鬥地台灣發聲要重新針對2758號決議為台灣平反所以鍛煉了很久的政治議題我們要用文化來縫合現在就是最好的時機下頁\n\n03:20.524 --> 03:36.808\n所以說萬事俱備只欠東風我們的主觀條件做好準備客觀的國際情勢有利於我們的時候我們就能夠因為我們Ready了所以我一直在倡議台灣即使不是聯合國的會員可是我們參與國際組織跟聯合國的各個轄下機構我們都不遺餘力\n\n03:44.870 --> 04:08.660\n世界衛生組織每年都在倡議國際民航組織聯合國氣候變化綱要公約我們即便不是聯合國成員我們也宣示了我們跟進氣候變化公約我們的所有的國際法規國內法我們來推動還包括要加入國際刑警組織所以文化不是outside的整個前因後果\n\n04:09.480 --> 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