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--> 00:00:20,708\n你們文化部主辦這個台北時裝週這對我們台灣的這個時裝啊對很多很優秀的這個設計師非常重要今年特別年嘛可是\n\n2\n00:00:41,638 --> 00:00:56,123\n最近不只有網友很多很優秀的設計師爆料他們非常憤慨今年啊走秀的時候台北時裝週走秀竟然爆出說有用中國的成衣才去淘寶買的直接用貼牌印上自己的圖案大家看一下這個圖案左邊這個淘寶上面在賣的你看\n\n3\n00:01:08,834 --> 00:01:14,657\n一件啦人民幣26塊在台幣應該半碗苦娘這是走秀的照片這是不是貼牌直接買了淘寶上面的衣服100多塊的衣服貼牌竟然就可以在我們台北時裝桌這麼重要的場合上去走秀更可惡的\n\n4\n00:01:37,369 --> 00:01:50,317\n不是只有今年耶它是累犯耶古年2024年的秋冬會出現一樣你看也是一樣淘寶上面清清楚楚的一個圖案然後貼牌以後就上了我們的台北時裝週走秀\n\n5\n00:02:00,933 --> 00:02:07,778\n台北時裝桌對我們整個時尚產業這多重要對我們那些很努力很優秀的設計師多麼重要對於我們的創造國際聲量多重要出大問題\n\n6\n00:02:14,854 --> 00:02:34,926\n這不是蠻丟臉的一件事嗎所以跟委員報告所以針對這個案子我們已經組成了委員會來進行調查當中那如果調查結果屬實是有網友所指稱的這樣的現象的時候我們其實就是會追究處理取消他的資格這樣子來看一下這傷害有多大來我們看下一張下一張下一張我們很優秀的這個設計師啊如果要去參加台北時裝桌從設計\n\n7\n00:02:44,684 --> 00:02:47,907\n選材到打板裁剪印刷刺繡大概啊時間大概用掉最起碼喔至少兩個禮拜以上喔有時候要上個超過一個月對不對成本大概至少不要說兩千塊有時候都要上萬塊耶就你去淘寶去買中國貨買來以後就貼牌就貼上去真的可能身份是四八個\n\n8\n00:03:13,408 --> 00:03:21,075\n這傷害太大了吧對我們的創作對我們跨上國際品牌傷害有多大好你們一直在講說你們怎麼處理來我看一下你們的處理面對這樣的野犯對我們傷害這麼大你們說針對社群上面對本次台北時裝桌品牌秀某一個廠牌這個就是我現在最有意見的很多有名的設計師來抗議\n\n9\n00:03:42,108 --> 00:04:09,454\n他是獵犯啊你為什麼連他的品牌都沒有公佈為什麼是寫了一個某一品牌我想說在調查中如果調查結束後我們一定會公佈我們的處理方式你們還要調查多久一個多月了餒市長我想我們其實創立台北時裝這個是很多設計師現在來吹哨來抗議來爆料第一個你明明知道是哪個廠牌的對不對\n\n10\n00:04:11,343 --> 00:04:23,315\n第一個那為什麼你還要這樣保護他這是一個第二個我剛剛執行前喔我還請我辦公室上去看這個台北時鐘週的官網品牌資料庫啊這個壘犯啊品牌掛在那裡你們在這裡處理嗎市長是不是馬上去把他拿下來\n\n11\n00:04:35,543 --> 00:05:01,615\n我想我們整個徵求廠商然後參與廠商誰能夠掛到這個聯合品牌上面都有它一定的規則我們就依照我們公告的這個要點來處理在它沒有被證明有實質的違法或者是違反要點之前我們就會讓它或者是說我們也來研議是不是在有疑慮的狀況下我們先來下架能夠上我們台北時裝中走秀是一個很大的榮耀\n\n12\n00:05:02,856 --> 00:05:08,986\n對不對結果他是獵犯他拿中國後來貼牌你們是這樣處理的現在要追究的是什麼你在調查你還要追究責任\n\n13\n00:05:13,178 --> 00:05:31,636\n當初你們的甄選委員會到底是怎麼甄選的我看那個名單很多都很有名啊很專業啊我們要肯定他要去查到底是怎麼有人推薦他還是有甄選過程出什麼問題而且是累犯兩次再去查清楚好不好好我們一併來討論一併來檢討而且裡面對新銳的這個品牌你們要提供20萬的補助對不對\n\n14\n00:05:33,482 --> 00:05:48,992\n這個品牌有沒有這個有沒有配品補助其實這樣這一類的品牌秀的部分我們沒有提供補助只是提供這樣子的一個平台機會讓他們可以上台走秀所以我們做個主席先站起來我簡單做個\n\n15\n00:05:56,155 --> 00:06:24,918\n第一個這個問題已經嚴重到很多有名的設計師專業的設計師整個都砸鍋了他們有做了很多的意見回饋我請利用這個場合我跟次長還有大家共享一下說參加展會之後效益是不是低落的訂單行為沒有像如期那麼高第二個如果以後是不是開始正式收費的時候有多少國內設計師會願意去報名你看本來大家爭著要來的\n\n16\n00:06:26,512 --> 00:06:27,620\n結果你看出現這個問題\n\n17\n00:06:29,588 --> 00:06:56,608\n一顆老鼠死了壞了一整鍋粥這個問題要趕快處理好不好大家對台北我們對你們這個活動是老蔣本來是非常非常重視的整個時尚的產業設計的產業已經第八年了大家都在拍手的時候突然出現連兩次連兩年出現這個問題好他們還回饋了一個意見說曾經努力向文化部申請補助可是發現啊申請到的補助的人永遠都是那些人\n\n18\n00:06:57,614 --> 00:07:22,995\n只是交差拿補助幾乎很多都是內定的對努力在國際上曝光的台灣品牌很不公平當某媒體公司拿到標案的時候其他陣營的媒體不可能用力去報導其他努力應酬才開始有機會可以去參加的才可以加入這個群體這可能都是很多意見好不好去查清楚有沒有這些問題好這我們會來深刻檢討最後我們做五個具體的我們提五個具體的訴求第一個以後啊\n\n19\n00:07:27,278 --> 00:07:28,779\n請參加的作品要跟主辦方要切結好不好要簽署切結你來參加我們的時裝桌你參展不能夠用縣省的成單用成一再去貼牌可不可以\n\n20\n00:07:40,589 --> 00:08:08,698\n這部分的訴求跟要求我們都會來研議看怎麼樣這一定要落實喔好不好好明定而且要落實以後他一定要簽這個切結好不好第二個參展這個產品的審查跟指導這個過程要兼備到商業性才能夠讓我們以後展期結束以後有能夠收到訂單避免為了消化預算變成一個過場活動第三我們要多鼓勵品牌要多跟我們台灣的廠商要合作讓他可以跟流台灣第四個\n\n21\n00:08:09,398 --> 00:08:31,988\n未來展會結束以後的訂單啦效益這個統計表要公開透明我今天沒有時間啦雖然我有去調你們那個整個那個收益跟整個後來那個訂單看起來這個要加油啦你一個月內給我一份好不好就是你們辦完這八年以後成效到底有多大好不好最後一個這個最重要這是一個行動方案我們的設計師受的委屈了因為他們非常努力啊\n\n22\n00:08:32,884 --> 00:08:52,712\n可能在國際上很多都邀請我們很專業的很多設計師去可是你出了這個事情能不能在一個月內召開一個公聽會邀請我們台灣設計師共商我們台北時裝桌要如何去改進好不好一方面請聽他們的聲音一方面把這些弊病趕快做一個檢討然後請聽他們的聲音我們共同往前走可以嗎跟委員報告\n\n23\n00:08:54,581 --> 00:09:09,431\n辦理台北時裝周跟我們辦理台北書展都是一樣的都是希望對這個產業能夠跟留台灣能夠有商業性能夠走出台灣都是一樣的目的那如果過程中我們的執行有什麼缺點這我們會持續來檢討跟改進\n\n24\n00:09:13,342 --> 00:09:31,238\n我現在具體的對不對所以我們目標是一樣的嘛對不對我們也心疼我們的設計師心疼的設計師啦我們要肯定他們的努力嘛對不對事實上你辦這個台北時裝說你本來是對我們的時尚產業這個很大一個交流平台啊所以趕快去補破網嘛所以我的具體要求是一個月內召開一個公聽會你邀請他們一起來討論請聽他們的聲音然後共同來解決看怎麼樣可以做得更好可不可以\n\n25\n00:09:37,570 --> 00:09:48,615\n就是邀集業界或者是產學那邊一起來檢討我們台北時裝周的辦理方式或如果更進步這個我們會更注意一個月內辦可以嗎一個月內辦你要多少時間辦\n\n26\n00:09:51,276 --> 00:10:09,967\n能不能两个月内好不好两个月内你要办那跟我们讲我们一定会召开邀集他们来讨论或是什么就不一定是所谓的公听会好不好谢谢张其凯委员次郎请回我们接下来请陈培宇委员\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n17145\t20708\t你們文化部主辦這個台北時裝週這對我們台灣的這個時裝啊對很多很優秀的這個設計師非常重要今年特別年嘛可是\n41638\t56123\t最近不只有網友 很多很優秀的設計師爆料他們非常憤慨今年啊 走秀的時候 台北時裝週走秀竟然爆出說有用中國的成衣 才去淘寶買的直接用貼牌印上自己的圖案大家看一下這個圖案左邊這個淘寶上面在賣的 你看\n68834\t74657\t一件啦人民幣26塊在台幣應該半碗苦娘這是走秀的照片這是不是貼牌直接買了淘寶上面的衣服100多塊的衣服貼牌竟然就可以在我們台北時裝桌這麼重要的場合上去走秀更可惡的\n97369\t110317\t不是只有今年耶 它是累犯耶 古年2024年的秋冬會出現一樣 你看 也是一樣 淘寶上面清清楚楚的一個圖案然後 貼牌以後 就上了我們的台北時裝週走秀\n120933\t127778\t台北時裝桌對我們整個時尚產業這多重要對我們那些很努力很優秀的設計師多麼重要對於我們的創造國際聲量多重要出大問題\n134854\t154926\t這不是蠻丟臉的一件事嗎所以跟委員報告所以針對這個案子我們已經組成了委員會來進行調查當中那如果調查結果屬實是有網友所指稱的這樣的現象的時候我們其實就是會追究處理取消他的資格這樣子來看一下這傷害有多大來我們看下一張下一張下一張我們很優秀的這個設計師啊如果要去參加台北時裝桌從設計\n164684\t167907\t選材 到打板 裁剪 印刷 刺繡大概啊 時間大概用掉 最起碼喔 至少兩個禮拜以上喔有時候要上個 超過一個月 對不對成本大概 至少不要說兩千塊 有時候都要上萬塊耶就你去淘寶去買中國貨 買來以後就貼牌就貼上去真的可能身份是四八個\n193408\t201075\t這傷害太大了吧對我們的創作對我們跨上國際品牌傷害有多大好 你們一直在講說你們怎麼處理來 我看一下你們的處理面對這樣的野犯對我們傷害這麼大你們說針對社群上面對本次台北時裝桌品牌秀某一個廠牌這個就是我現在最有意見的很多有名的設計師來抗議\n222108\t249454\t他是獵犯啊你為什麼連他的品牌都沒有公佈為什麼是寫了一個某一品牌我想說在調查中如果調查結束後我們一定會公佈我們的處理方式你們還要調查多久 一個多月了餒市長 我想我們其實創立台北時裝這個是很多設計師現在來吹哨來抗議來爆料第一個你明明知道是哪個廠牌的對不對\n251343\t263315\t第一個 那為什麼你還要這樣保護他 這是一個第二個 我剛剛執行前喔我還請我辦公室上去 看這個台北時鐘週的官網品牌資料庫啊 這個壘犯啊 品牌掛在那裡你們在這裡處理嗎 市長 是不是馬上去把他拿下來\n275543\t301615\t我想我們整個徵求廠商然後參與廠商誰能夠掛到這個聯合品牌上面都有它一定的規則我們就依照我們公告的這個要點來處理在它沒有被證明有實質的違法或者是違反要點之前我們就會讓它或者是說我們也來研議是不是在有疑慮的狀況下我們先來下架能夠上我們台北時裝中走秀是一個很大的榮耀\n302856\t308986\t對不對 結果他是獵犯 他拿中國後來貼牌你們是這樣處理的 現在要追究的是什麼你在調查 你還要追究責任\n313178\t331636\t當初你們的甄選委員會到底是怎麼甄選的我看那個名單很多都很有名啊很專業啊我們要肯定他要去查到底是怎麼有人推薦他還是有甄選過程出什麼問題而且是累犯兩次再去查清楚好不好好我們一併來討論一併來檢討而且裡面對新銳的這個品牌你們要提供20萬的補助對不對\n333482\t348992\t這個品牌有沒有這個有沒有配品補助其實這樣這一類的品牌秀的部分我們沒有提供補助只是提供這樣子的一個平台機會讓他們可以上台走秀所以我們做個主席先站起來我簡單做個\n356155\t384918\t第一個這個問題已經嚴重到很多有名的設計師專業的設計師整個都砸鍋了他們有做了很多的意見回饋我請利用這個場合我跟次長還有大家共享一下說參加展會之後效益是不是低落的訂單行為沒有像如期那麼高第二個如果以後是不是開始正式收費的時候有多少國內設計師會願意去報名你看本來大家爭著要來的\n386512\t387620\t結果你看 出現這個問題\n389588\t416608\t一顆老鼠死了壞了一整鍋粥這個問題要趕快處理 好不好大家對台北我們對你們這個活動是老蔣本來是非常非常重視的整個時尚的產業 設計的產業已經第八年了大家都在拍手的時候突然出現連兩次連兩年出現這個問題好 他們還回饋了一個意見說曾經努力向文化部申請補助可是發現啊申請到的補助的人永遠都是那些人\n417614\t442995\t只是交差拿補助幾乎很多都是內定的對努力在國際上曝光的台灣品牌很不公平當某媒體公司拿到標案的時候其他陣營的媒體不可能用力去報導其他努力應酬才開始有機會可以去參加的才可以加入這個群體這可能都是很多意見好不好去查清楚有沒有這些問題好 這我們會來深刻檢討最後我們做五個具體的我們提五個具體的訴求第一個 以後啊\n447278\t448779\t請參加的作品要跟主辦方要切結好不好要簽署切結你來參加我們的時裝桌你參展不能夠用縣省的成單用成一再去貼牌可不可以\n460589\t488698\t這部分的訴求跟要求我們都會來研議看怎麼樣這一定要落實喔好不好好明定而且要落實以後他一定要簽這個切結好不好第二個參展這個產品的審查跟指導這個過程要兼備到商業性才能夠讓我們以後展期結束以後有能夠收到訂單避免為了消化預算變成一個過場活動第三我們要多鼓勵品牌要多跟我們台灣的廠商要合作讓他可以跟流台灣第四個\n489398\t511988\t未來展會結束以後的訂單啦效益這個統計表要公開透明我今天沒有時間啦雖然我有去調你們那個整個那個收益跟整個後來那個訂單看起來這個要加油啦你一個月內給我一份好不好就是你們辦完這八年以後成效到底有多大好不好最後一個這個最重要這是一個行動方案我們的設計師受的委屈了因為他們非常努力啊\n512884\t532712\t可能在國際上很多都邀請我們很專業的很多設計師去可是你出了這個事情能不能在一個月內召開一個公聽會邀請我們台灣設計師共商我們台北時裝桌要如何去改進好不好一方面請聽他們的聲音一方面把這些弊病趕快做一個檢討然後請聽他們的聲音我們共同往前走可以嗎跟委員報告\n534581\t549431\t辦理台北時裝周跟我們辦理台北書展都是一樣的都是希望對這個產業能夠跟留台灣能夠有商業性能夠走出台灣都是一樣的目的那如果過程中我們的執行有什麼缺點這我們會持續來檢討跟改進\n553342\t571238\t我現在具體的 對不對所以我們目標是一樣的嘛 對不對我們也心疼我們的設計師心疼的設計師啦我們要肯定他們的努力嘛 對不對事實上你辦這個台北時裝說你本來是對我們的時尚產業這個很大一個交流平台啊所以趕快去補破網嘛所以我的具體要求是一個月內召開一個公聽會你邀請他們一起來討論請聽他們的聲音然後共同來解決看怎麼樣可以做得更好可不可以\n577570\t588615\t就是邀集業界或者是產學那邊一起來檢討我們台北時裝周的辦理方式或如果更進步這個我們會更注意一個月內辦可以嗎一個月內辦你要多少時間辦\n591276\t609967\t能不能两个月内好不好两个月内你要办那跟我们讲我们一定会召开邀集他们来讨论或是什么就不一定是所谓的公听会好不好谢谢张其凯委员次郎请回我们接下来请陈培宇委员\n","txt":"你們文化部主辦這個台北時裝週這對我們台灣的這個時裝啊對很多很優秀的這個設計師非常重要今年特別年嘛可是\n最近不只有網友 很多很優秀的設計師爆料他們非常憤慨今年啊 走秀的時候 台北時裝週走秀竟然爆出說有用中國的成衣 才去淘寶買的直接用貼牌印上自己的圖案大家看一下這個圖案左邊這個淘寶上面在賣的 你看\n一件啦人民幣26塊在台幣應該半碗苦娘這是走秀的照片這是不是貼牌直接買了淘寶上面的衣服100多塊的衣服貼牌竟然就可以在我們台北時裝桌這麼重要的場合上去走秀更可惡的\n不是只有今年耶 它是累犯耶 古年2024年的秋冬會出現一樣 你看 也是一樣 淘寶上面清清楚楚的一個圖案然後 貼牌以後 就上了我們的台北時裝週走秀\n台北時裝桌對我們整個時尚產業這多重要對我們那些很努力很優秀的設計師多麼重要對於我們的創造國際聲量多重要出大問題\n這不是蠻丟臉的一件事嗎所以跟委員報告所以針對這個案子我們已經組成了委員會來進行調查當中那如果調查結果屬實是有網友所指稱的這樣的現象的時候我們其實就是會追究處理取消他的資格這樣子來看一下這傷害有多大來我們看下一張下一張下一張我們很優秀的這個設計師啊如果要去參加台北時裝桌從設計\n選材 到打板 裁剪 印刷 刺繡大概啊 時間大概用掉 最起碼喔 至少兩個禮拜以上喔有時候要上個 超過一個月 對不對成本大概 至少不要說兩千塊 有時候都要上萬塊耶就你去淘寶去買中國貨 買來以後就貼牌就貼上去真的可能身份是四八個\n這傷害太大了吧對我們的創作對我們跨上國際品牌傷害有多大好 你們一直在講說你們怎麼處理來 我看一下你們的處理面對這樣的野犯對我們傷害這麼大你們說針對社群上面對本次台北時裝桌品牌秀某一個廠牌這個就是我現在最有意見的很多有名的設計師來抗議\n他是獵犯啊你為什麼連他的品牌都沒有公佈為什麼是寫了一個某一品牌我想說在調查中如果調查結束後我們一定會公佈我們的處理方式你們還要調查多久 一個多月了餒市長 我想我們其實創立台北時裝這個是很多設計師現在來吹哨來抗議來爆料第一個你明明知道是哪個廠牌的對不對\n第一個 那為什麼你還要這樣保護他 這是一個第二個 我剛剛執行前喔我還請我辦公室上去 看這個台北時鐘週的官網品牌資料庫啊 這個壘犯啊 品牌掛在那裡你們在這裡處理嗎 市長 是不是馬上去把他拿下來\n我想我們整個徵求廠商然後參與廠商誰能夠掛到這個聯合品牌上面都有它一定的規則我們就依照我們公告的這個要點來處理在它沒有被證明有實質的違法或者是違反要點之前我們就會讓它或者是說我們也來研議是不是在有疑慮的狀況下我們先來下架能夠上我們台北時裝中走秀是一個很大的榮耀\n對不對 結果他是獵犯 他拿中國後來貼牌你們是這樣處理的 現在要追究的是什麼你在調查 你還要追究責任\n當初你們的甄選委員會到底是怎麼甄選的我看那個名單很多都很有名啊很專業啊我們要肯定他要去查到底是怎麼有人推薦他還是有甄選過程出什麼問題而且是累犯兩次再去查清楚好不好好我們一併來討論一併來檢討而且裡面對新銳的這個品牌你們要提供20萬的補助對不對\n這個品牌有沒有這個有沒有配品補助其實這樣這一類的品牌秀的部分我們沒有提供補助只是提供這樣子的一個平台機會讓他們可以上台走秀所以我們做個主席先站起來我簡單做個\n第一個這個問題已經嚴重到很多有名的設計師專業的設計師整個都砸鍋了他們有做了很多的意見回饋我請利用這個場合我跟次長還有大家共享一下說參加展會之後效益是不是低落的訂單行為沒有像如期那麼高第二個如果以後是不是開始正式收費的時候有多少國內設計師會願意去報名你看本來大家爭著要來的\n結果你看 出現這個問題\n一顆老鼠死了壞了一整鍋粥這個問題要趕快處理 好不好大家對台北我們對你們這個活動是老蔣本來是非常非常重視的整個時尚的產業 設計的產業已經第八年了大家都在拍手的時候突然出現連兩次連兩年出現這個問題好 他們還回饋了一個意見說曾經努力向文化部申請補助可是發現啊申請到的補助的人永遠都是那些人\n只是交差拿補助幾乎很多都是內定的對努力在國際上曝光的台灣品牌很不公平當某媒體公司拿到標案的時候其他陣營的媒體不可能用力去報導其他努力應酬才開始有機會可以去參加的才可以加入這個群體這可能都是很多意見好不好去查清楚有沒有這些問題好 這我們會來深刻檢討最後我們做五個具體的我們提五個具體的訴求第一個 以後啊\n請參加的作品要跟主辦方要切結好不好要簽署切結你來參加我們的時裝桌你參展不能夠用縣省的成單用成一再去貼牌可不可以\n這部分的訴求跟要求我們都會來研議看怎麼樣這一定要落實喔好不好好明定而且要落實以後他一定要簽這個切結好不好第二個參展這個產品的審查跟指導這個過程要兼備到商業性才能夠讓我們以後展期結束以後有能夠收到訂單避免為了消化預算變成一個過場活動第三我們要多鼓勵品牌要多跟我們台灣的廠商要合作讓他可以跟流台灣第四個\n未來展會結束以後的訂單啦效益這個統計表要公開透明我今天沒有時間啦雖然我有去調你們那個整個那個收益跟整個後來那個訂單看起來這個要加油啦你一個月內給我一份好不好就是你們辦完這八年以後成效到底有多大好不好最後一個這個最重要這是一個行動方案我們的設計師受的委屈了因為他們非常努力啊\n可能在國際上很多都邀請我們很專業的很多設計師去可是你出了這個事情能不能在一個月內召開一個公聽會邀請我們台灣設計師共商我們台北時裝桌要如何去改進好不好一方面請聽他們的聲音一方面把這些弊病趕快做一個檢討然後請聽他們的聲音我們共同往前走可以嗎跟委員報告\n辦理台北時裝周跟我們辦理台北書展都是一樣的都是希望對這個產業能夠跟留台灣能夠有商業性能夠走出台灣都是一樣的目的那如果過程中我們的執行有什麼缺點這我們會持續來檢討跟改進\n我現在具體的 對不對所以我們目標是一樣的嘛 對不對我們也心疼我們的設計師心疼的設計師啦我們要肯定他們的努力嘛 對不對事實上你辦這個台北時裝說你本來是對我們的時尚產業這個很大一個交流平台啊所以趕快去補破網嘛所以我的具體要求是一個月內召開一個公聽會你邀請他們一起來討論請聽他們的聲音然後共同來解決看怎麼樣可以做得更好可不可以\n就是邀集業界或者是產學那邊一起來檢討我們台北時裝周的辦理方式或如果更進步這個我們會更注意一個月內辦可以嗎一個月內辦你要多少時間辦\n能不能两个月内好不好两个月内你要办那跟我们讲我们一定会召开邀集他们来讨论或是什么就不一定是所谓的公听会好不好谢谢张其凯委员次郎请回我们接下来请陈培宇委员\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:17.145 --> 00:20.708\n你們文化部主辦這個台北時裝週這對我們台灣的這個時裝啊對很多很優秀的這個設計師非常重要今年特別年嘛可是\n\n00:41.638 --> 00:56.123\n最近不只有網友很多很優秀的設計師爆料他們非常憤慨今年啊走秀的時候台北時裝週走秀竟然爆出說有用中國的成衣才去淘寶買的直接用貼牌印上自己的圖案大家看一下這個圖案左邊這個淘寶上面在賣的你看\n\n01:08.834 --> 01:14.657\n一件啦人民幣26塊在台幣應該半碗苦娘這是走秀的照片這是不是貼牌直接買了淘寶上面的衣服100多塊的衣服貼牌竟然就可以在我們台北時裝桌這麼重要的場合上去走秀更可惡的\n\n01:37.369 --> 01:50.317\n不是只有今年耶它是累犯耶古年2024年的秋冬會出現一樣你看也是一樣淘寶上面清清楚楚的一個圖案然後貼牌以後就上了我們的台北時裝週走秀\n\n02:00.933 --> 02:07.778\n台北時裝桌對我們整個時尚產業這多重要對我們那些很努力很優秀的設計師多麼重要對於我們的創造國際聲量多重要出大問題\n\n02:14.854 --> 02:34.926\n這不是蠻丟臉的一件事嗎所以跟委員報告所以針對這個案子我們已經組成了委員會來進行調查當中那如果調查結果屬實是有網友所指稱的這樣的現象的時候我們其實就是會追究處理取消他的資格這樣子來看一下這傷害有多大來我們看下一張下一張下一張我們很優秀的這個設計師啊如果要去參加台北時裝桌從設計\n\n02:44.684 --> 02:47.907\n選材到打板裁剪印刷刺繡大概啊時間大概用掉最起碼喔至少兩個禮拜以上喔有時候要上個超過一個月對不對成本大概至少不要說兩千塊有時候都要上萬塊耶就你去淘寶去買中國貨買來以後就貼牌就貼上去真的可能身份是四八個\n\n03:13.408 --> 03:21.075\n這傷害太大了吧對我們的創作對我們跨上國際品牌傷害有多大好你們一直在講說你們怎麼處理來我看一下你們的處理面對這樣的野犯對我們傷害這麼大你們說針對社群上面對本次台北時裝桌品牌秀某一個廠牌這個就是我現在最有意見的很多有名的設計師來抗議\n\n03:42.108 --> 04:09.454\n他是獵犯啊你為什麼連他的品牌都沒有公佈為什麼是寫了一個某一品牌我想說在調查中如果調查結束後我們一定會公佈我們的處理方式你們還要調查多久一個多月了餒市長我想我們其實創立台北時裝這個是很多設計師現在來吹哨來抗議來爆料第一個你明明知道是哪個廠牌的對不對\n\n04:11.343 --> 04:23.315\n第一個那為什麼你還要這樣保護他這是一個第二個我剛剛執行前喔我還請我辦公室上去看這個台北時鐘週的官網品牌資料庫啊這個壘犯啊品牌掛在那裡你們在這裡處理嗎市長是不是馬上去把他拿下來\n\n04:35.543 --> 05:01.615\n我想我們整個徵求廠商然後參與廠商誰能夠掛到這個聯合品牌上面都有它一定的規則我們就依照我們公告的這個要點來處理在它沒有被證明有實質的違法或者是違反要點之前我們就會讓它或者是說我們也來研議是不是在有疑慮的狀況下我們先來下架能夠上我們台北時裝中走秀是一個很大的榮耀\n\n05:02.856 --> 05:08.986\n對不對結果他是獵犯他拿中國後來貼牌你們是這樣處理的現在要追究的是什麼你在調查你還要追究責任\n\n05:13.178 --> 05:31.636\n當初你們的甄選委員會到底是怎麼甄選的我看那個名單很多都很有名啊很專業啊我們要肯定他要去查到底是怎麼有人推薦他還是有甄選過程出什麼問題而且是累犯兩次再去查清楚好不好好我們一併來討論一併來檢討而且裡面對新銳的這個品牌你們要提供20萬的補助對不對\n\n05:33.482 --> 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