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00:02:00,542\n有領駕照跟未領駕照的一個部分個別的一個數字就是未領駕照有17萬多那吊銷吊扣的有10萬多那還有包括就是吊銷吊扣之後無照駕駛的累犯的一個數字也都是居高不下那針對這個問題當然我們有些就是委員主張就是說要加重一個罰則那在這邊本席先請教一下就是這邊交通部有沒有什麼想法\n\n6\n00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:15,406\n我簡單說明如果委員還要更細一點我再請林市長來做說明原則上我們大概精神會比照這裡有特別提到跟酒駕來相比所以會跟參考酒駕的立法例我們會區分汽車機車\n\n7\n00:02:17,389 --> 00:02:43,858\n然後無照駕駛的情形給予不同處罰的額度然後另外還會有對於累犯然後來加重而且是仿照酒駕沒有上限的方式來設計那駕照的本身也會有吊扣的一個期限各種不同的期限甚至到終身不得考照那內部車輛我們會就是當場一致保管然後也會有一些吊扣的牌照的處理\n\n8\n00:02:44,778 --> 00:03:06,409\n那最終呢當然我們也有所謂併把就是說那個所有人的車輛也要如果不是駕駛人本人的時候他也要有相關的一個罰款的一個處理我想大概用這樣的方式來比照酒駕看能不能對這個無照的駕駛能夠有一定的一個嚇阻\n\n9\n00:03:07,395 --> 00:03:35,193\n是那就是我們看到就是說被吊銷吊扣駕照之後就是無照駕駛的這個就是累犯也是居高不下那針對這種狀況到底我們要加重這個罰則就能夠來解決這個問題嗎我想這個我們可能要再去做一個深度或者是廣泛的一個思考就是是不是我們也要去針對就是說造成無照駕駛\n\n10\n00:03:36,534 --> 00:03:47,161\n的一些狀態類型是不是可以做一些分析然後從源頭去思考要怎樣來解決來降低這個無照駕駛的一個件數因為會造成無照駕駛當然就是說他們違規然後可能就是違反了道交條例的相關的一些規定之後然後被吊銷了駕照那吊銷駕照之後\n\n11\n00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:14,306\n事實上就是說這些駕駛人因為有生計的一個問題或者交通的需求或者是公共運輸不夠便利所以他們只好就是抱著僥倖的心態鋌而走險\n\n12\n00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:35,187\n就是繼續無照駕駛只要在這個吊扣吊銷的期間他能夠就是沒有違反規定或者是就是沒有發生事故的話他可能就是這樣子僥倖的度過了那個期間然後吊銷吊扣駕照期間到了\n\n13\n00:04:36,088 --> 00:04:59,080\n就可以再重新領召當然這種抱著僥倖的心態也是不可取不過這個也就是一個因果循環真的就是可能什麼原因造成它有一個違規的部分所以我是建議說我們有沒有針對這一些無照駕駛的這一些違規案件有沒有去做過分析透過大數據的分析就是說大概是\n\n14\n00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:14,570\n因為什麼樣的類型的那個違規造成他們叫駕照被調扣做過分析之後再針對這樣子的一個法令是不是需要再檢討的部分是不是可以這樣子做\n\n15\n00:05:16,156 --> 00:05:40,366\n這個部分我再跟委員這個報告一下就是委員所提到的是真正這個防止無照駕駛的一個重點第一個無照駕駛我們現在廣泛所稱的無照駕駛包括從來沒有領過駕照的那第二個部分是駕照被吊銷被註銷這個輪駕駛那第三個部分是這一個就是說這一個吊扣期間輪駕駛那另外第五種是屬於這個有機車駕駛執照去開機車\n\n16\n00:05:43,027 --> 00:05:52,420\n那這個部分部裡面確實是有分析第一個部分就是按機車跟汽車哪一個這個種類這個無照駕駛比較多那第二個部分就是按這個年齡這個未滿18歲的那這個18歲到這個64歲的那65歲\n\n17\n00:06:00,891 --> 00:06:25,588\n這個以上的大概都有做這些相關的一個分析啦所以那這一次法令面的部分這次有提出來這一個就是說這一個就是說壘犯這一個無上限的部分其實那個部分大概主要是針對這一個就是說應該是零有駕駛執照但是駕照被吊銷因為酒駕貨等等的部分然後後面這個東西所以整盤的部分的話除了法規的修正面那其他的部分交通部跟公務局都有在做研議的配套\n\n18\n00:06:26,108 --> 00:06:51,543\n對因為就是說針對交通安全因為我們一再談的就是要回歸到這個四一就是教育還有這個工程還有就是監理法規應該都是要併重的因為我們就是說如果針對法律面一直在加重可是源頭的部分我們或相關的層面沒有去改善或者是就是做一些調整的話\n\n19\n00:06:52,784 --> 00:07:06,400\n我想這個案件還是會一直這樣子的居高不下所以這個部分我們就是來再講到一個這是違規的一個部分就是當然就是駕駛人他們違規的時候有一個申訴的一個管道嘛\n\n20\n00:07:07,421 --> 00:07:32,270\n因為我想這是對駕駛人的一個權利的一個保障因為就是會導致到後來他被吊銷或吊扣可能就是一些違規件數的一個累積之後被吊銷吊扣那其中有一個樣態就是跟次長這邊討論就是說像這個超速的部分超速的部分我們駕駛人可以提出申訴那最近就是說\n\n21\n00:07:33,050 --> 00:07:38,192\n有一種狀況就是這個在蔡議委員他也曾經召開過記者會就是針對這個連結車的駕駛他被這個就是雷達測速拍照拍到說他超速了可是他的行車紀錄器啊顯示是沒有超速的可是在這種狀況下舉發單位都都不承認以至於說要走上這個行政訴訟啊走法院其實這對駕駛人也是一個折騰\n\n22\n00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:11,773\n可是目前有一個其實已經有兩個案例了然後最近一個很新的案例也是最近在5月份5月19號已經判決來撤銷他的罰單的就是一個台塑貨運夜行司機這個駕駛他被舉發違規超速\n\n23\n00:08:21,523 --> 00:08:39,666\n可是它的行車紀錄器其實事實上只有72公里所以在這個部分就是說本席要講的就是有關這個行車紀錄器它的證據力到底我們交通部這邊要怎樣來保障這個行車紀錄器的一個證據力然後來保障駕駛人的一個權益\n\n24\n00:08:40,976 --> 00:08:58,465\n是報告委員委員所提到的這幾個案例的部分我我自己有找這一個就是檢控署還包括法務部大家有共同來做這個演唱那這個第一點的部分就是說這個就是違規人只要能夠提出包括這一個就是說行政紀錄器我們俗稱的大餅\n\n25\n00:08:59,085 --> 00:09:17,872\n或者是說這個因為導航都有GPS這些相關的部分只要能夠提出相關證據這個這個到這個來提出申訴的話這個處理機關都應該要受理那因為相關的證據他都要逐一來做這個檢視那另外一個部分的話大概\n\n26\n00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:38,631\n這邊就提到一個部分因為這個東西是相對因為這個就是說行車紀錄器它是紀錄瞬間然後這個GPS基本上大概也是這樣子的一個部分但是測速照相它是這一個固定點然後相關有些東西時間的部分這個比對就必須要去做這個檢核但是裡面會有一個課題\n\n27\n00:09:39,952 --> 00:09:54,517\n這個我也請這個警政署那邊大概也有作為檢討說如果說在一處這個固定測速的這個東西常常有這樣子違規的案件那回過頭來就要是這個看一下本身這個測速系統是不是有相關\n\n28\n00:09:55,137 --> 00:10:19,033\n我當然這個檢控署所有的測數系統都用每年去送標準去做做驗證但是這種數位的東西這個基本上還是會有一些可能萬一啦所以只要有這樣的東西上次已經有請檢控署只要有這樣子一個趨勢跟現象的部分一定是先回過頭來這個看我們自己的一個系統那如果說確實系統有問題等等的部分那以往處理這些相關舉報的部分就要從寬來做一個處理\n\n29\n00:10:21,940 --> 00:10:38,608\n對這個駕駛要遵守這個交通法令這個是一定的那不過就是說像這種狀況發生的時候也是會涉及到駕駛人的一個權益因為這個如果說他申訴不過的話可能就會導致他之後如果說又犯了一次或累犯\n\n30\n00:10:39,048 --> 00:11:05,070\n它可能就會導致它的這個駕照被吊銷或吊扣吊扣的這樣的狀態所以我要講的就是說這個很多的結果我們要去推因就是說到底這個違規或者是這個案件的一個發生我們也要去合理的去了解之後然後才能夠來下降就是降低這樣子的一個無照的一個狀況\n\n31\n00:11:06,713 --> 00:11:10,533\n然後讓我們的交通能夠更安全好就這樣\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3549\t5660\t好 謝謝主席 請主席邀請陳次長好 來陳次長\n13007\t36072\t市長早安 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那就是我們看到就是說被吊銷吊扣駕照之後就是無照駕駛的這個就是累犯也是居高不下那針對這種狀況到底我們要加重這個罰則就能夠來解決這個問題嗎我想這個我們可能要再去做一個深度或者是廣泛的一個思考就是是不是我們也要去針對就是說造成無照駕駛\n216534\t227161\t的一些狀態類型是不是可以做一些分析然後從源頭去思考要怎樣來解決來降低這個無照駕駛的一個件數因為會造成無照駕駛當然就是說他們違規然後可能就是違反了道交條例的相關的一些規定之後然後被吊銷了駕照那吊銷駕照之後\n241930\t254306\t事實上就是說這些駕駛人因為有生計的一個問題或者交通的需求或者是公共運輸不夠便利所以他們只好就是抱著僥倖的心態 鋌而走險\n256949\t275187\t就是繼續無照駕駛只要在這個吊扣吊銷的期間他能夠就是沒有違反規定或者是就是沒有發生事故的話他可能就是這樣子僥倖的度過了那個期間然後吊銷吊扣駕照期間到了\n276088\t299080\t就可以再重新領召當然這種抱著僥倖的心態也是不可取不過這個也就是一個因果循環真的就是可能什麼原因造成它有一個違規的部分所以我是建議說我們有沒有針對這一些無照駕駛的這一些違規案件有沒有去做過分析透過大數據的分析就是說大概是\n300040\t314570\t因為什麼樣的類型的那個違規造成他們叫駕照被調扣做過分析之後再針對這樣子的一個法令是不是需要再檢討的部分是不是可以這樣子做\n316156\t340366\t這個部分我再跟委員這個報告一下就是委員所提到的是真正這個防止無照駕駛的一個重點第一個無照駕駛我們現在廣泛所稱的無照駕駛包括從來沒有領過駕照的那第二個部分是駕照被吊銷被註銷這個輪駕駛那第三個部分是這一個就是說這一個吊扣期間輪駕駛那另外第五種是屬於這個有機車駕駛執照去開機車\n343027\t352420\t那這個部分 部裡面確實是有分析第一個部分就是按機車跟汽車哪一個這個種類這個無照駕駛比較多那第二個部分就是按這個年齡這個未滿18歲的那這個18歲到這個64歲的那65歲\n360891\t385588\t這個以上的大概都有做這些相關的一個分析啦所以那這一次法令面的部分這次有提出來這一個就是說這一個就是說壘犯這一個無上限的部分其實那個部分大概主要是針對這一個就是說應該是零有駕駛執照但是駕照被吊銷因為酒駕貨等等的部分然後後面這個東西所以整盤的部分的話除了法規的修正面那其他的部分交通部跟公務局都有在做研議的配套\n386108\t411543\t對 因為就是說針對交通安全因為我們一再談的就是要回歸到這個四一就是教育還有這個工程還有就是監理法規應該都是要併重的因為我們就是說如果針對法律面一直在加重可是源頭的部分我們或相關的層面沒有去改善或者是就是做一些調整的話\n412784\t426400\t我想這個案件還是會一直這樣子的居高不下所以這個部分我們就是來再講到一個這是違規的一個部分就是當然就是駕駛人他們違規的時候有一個申訴的一個管道嘛\n427421\t452270\t因為我想這是對駕駛人的一個權利的一個保障因為就是會導致到後來他被吊銷或吊扣可能就是一些違規件數的一個累積之後被吊銷吊扣那其中有一個樣態就是跟次長這邊討論就是說像這個超速的部分超速的部分我們駕駛人可以提出申訴那最近就是說\n453050\t458192\t有一種狀況就是這個在蔡議委員他也曾經召開過記者會就是針對這個連結車的駕駛他被這個就是雷達測速拍照拍到說他超速了可是他的行車紀錄器啊顯示是沒有超速的可是在這種狀況下舉發單位都都不承認以至於說要走上這個行政訴訟啊走法院其實這對駕駛人也是一個折騰\n482003\t491773\t可是目前有一個其實已經有兩個案例了然後最近一個很新的案例也是最近在5月份5月19號已經判決來撤銷他的罰單的就是一個台塑貨運夜行司機這個駕駛他被舉發違規超速\n501523\t519666\t可是它的行車紀錄器其實事實上只有72公里所以在這個部分就是說本席要講的就是有關這個行車紀錄器它的證據力到底我們交通部這邊要怎樣來保障這個行車紀錄器的一個證據力然後來保障駕駛人的一個權益\n520976\t538465\t是報告委員 委員所提到的這幾個案例的部分我我自己有找這一個就是檢控署還包括法務部大家有共同來做這個演唱那這個第一點的部分就是說這個就是違規人只要能夠提出包括這一個就是說行政紀錄器我們俗稱的大餅\n539085\t557872\t或者是說這個因為導航都有GPS這些相關的部分只要能夠提出相關證據這個這個到這個來提出申訴的話這個處理機關都應該要受理那因為相關的證據他都要逐一來做這個檢視那另外一個部分的話大概\n559092\t578631\t這邊就提到一個部分因為這個東西是相對因為這個就是說行車紀錄器它是紀錄瞬間然後這個GPS基本上大概也是這樣子的一個部分但是測速照相它是這一個固定點然後相關有些東西時間的部分這個比對就必須要去做這個檢核但是裡面會有一個課題\n579952\t594517\t這個我也請這個警政署那邊大概也有作為檢討說如果說在一處這個固定測速的這個東西常常有這樣子違規的案件那回過頭來就要是這個看一下本身這個測速系統是不是有相關\n595137\t619033\t我當然這個檢控署所有的測數系統都用每年去送標準去做做驗證但是這種數位的東西這個基本上還是會有一些可能萬一啦所以只要有這樣的東西上次已經有請檢控署只要有這樣子一個趨勢跟現象的部分一定是先回過頭來這個看我們自己的一個系統那如果說確實系統有問題等等的部分那以往處理這些相關舉報的部分就要從寬來做一個處理\n621940\t638608\t對這個駕駛要遵守這個交通法令這個是一定的那不過就是說像這種狀況發生的時候也是會涉及到駕駛人的一個權益因為這個如果說他申訴不過的話可能就會導致他之後如果說又犯了一次或累犯\n639048\t665070\t它可能就會導致它的這個駕照被吊銷或吊扣吊扣的這樣的狀態所以我要講的就是說這個很多的結果我們要去推因就是說到底這個違規或者是這個案件的一個發生我們也要去合理的去了解之後然後才能夠來下降就是降低這樣子的一個無照的一個狀況\n666713\t670533\t然後讓我們的交通能夠更安全好 就這樣\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 請主席邀請陳次長好 來陳次長\n市長早安 今天委員會就是針對道路交通管理處罰條例的修正草案進行詢問目前因為最近發生很多的交通事故主要就是高齡駕駛還有無照駕駛造成的交通事故所以也引起國人很高的關注\n所以導致有很多委員對這相關的法令的一個關心那今天本席想針對無照駕駛這個部分跟次長就是來請教因為我們知道根據統計就是目前每年約40萬件的交通事故當中就有5萬件是無照駕駛的案件那平均每年造成600多人的死亡就是6萬多人受傷\n是酒駕量乘這個車禍事故量乘死傷的6倍那我們根據警政署的一個統計就是無照駕駛裁罰的統計在112年裁罰的案件有316981件那去年113年裁罰是281107件那剛剛我們有聽到昆澤委員也針對這個議題在關心就是說這個部分也分成就是說\n有領駕照跟未領駕照的一個部分個別的一個數字就是未領駕照有17萬多那吊銷吊扣的有10萬多那還有包括就是吊銷吊扣之後無照駕駛的累犯的一個數字也都是居高不下那針對這個問題當然我們有些就是委員主張就是說要加重一個罰則那在這邊本席先請教一下就是這邊交通部有沒有什麼想法\n我簡單說明如果委員還要更細一點我再請林市長來做說明原則上我們大概精神會比照這裡有特別提到跟酒駕來相比所以會跟參考酒駕的立法例我們會區分汽車 機車\n然後無照駕駛的情形給予不同處罰的額度然後另外還會有對於累犯然後來加重而且是仿照酒駕沒有上限的方式來設計那駕照的本身也會有吊扣的一個期限各種不同的期限甚至到終身不得考照那內部車輛我們會就是當場一致保管然後也會有一些吊扣的牌照的處理\n那最終呢當然我們也有所謂併把就是說那個所有人的車輛也要如果不是駕駛人本人的時候他也要有相關的一個罰款的一個處理我想大概用這樣的方式來比照酒駕看能不能對這個無照的駕駛能夠有一定的一個嚇阻\n是 那就是我們看到就是說被吊銷吊扣駕照之後就是無照駕駛的這個就是累犯也是居高不下那針對這種狀況到底我們要加重這個罰則就能夠來解決這個問題嗎我想這個我們可能要再去做一個深度或者是廣泛的一個思考就是是不是我們也要去針對就是說造成無照駕駛\n的一些狀態類型是不是可以做一些分析然後從源頭去思考要怎樣來解決來降低這個無照駕駛的一個件數因為會造成無照駕駛當然就是說他們違規然後可能就是違反了道交條例的相關的一些規定之後然後被吊銷了駕照那吊銷駕照之後\n事實上就是說這些駕駛人因為有生計的一個問題或者交通的需求或者是公共運輸不夠便利所以他們只好就是抱著僥倖的心態 鋌而走險\n就是繼續無照駕駛只要在這個吊扣吊銷的期間他能夠就是沒有違反規定或者是就是沒有發生事故的話他可能就是這樣子僥倖的度過了那個期間然後吊銷吊扣駕照期間到了\n就可以再重新領召當然這種抱著僥倖的心態也是不可取不過這個也就是一個因果循環真的就是可能什麼原因造成它有一個違規的部分所以我是建議說我們有沒有針對這一些無照駕駛的這一些違規案件有沒有去做過分析透過大數據的分析就是說大概是\n因為什麼樣的類型的那個違規造成他們叫駕照被調扣做過分析之後再針對這樣子的一個法令是不是需要再檢討的部分是不是可以這樣子做\n這個部分我再跟委員這個報告一下就是委員所提到的是真正這個防止無照駕駛的一個重點第一個無照駕駛我們現在廣泛所稱的無照駕駛包括從來沒有領過駕照的那第二個部分是駕照被吊銷被註銷這個輪駕駛那第三個部分是這一個就是說這一個吊扣期間輪駕駛那另外第五種是屬於這個有機車駕駛執照去開機車\n那這個部分 部裡面確實是有分析第一個部分就是按機車跟汽車哪一個這個種類這個無照駕駛比較多那第二個部分就是按這個年齡這個未滿18歲的那這個18歲到這個64歲的那65歲\n這個以上的大概都有做這些相關的一個分析啦所以那這一次法令面的部分這次有提出來這一個就是說這一個就是說壘犯這一個無上限的部分其實那個部分大概主要是針對這一個就是說應該是零有駕駛執照但是駕照被吊銷因為酒駕貨等等的部分然後後面這個東西所以整盤的部分的話除了法規的修正面那其他的部分交通部跟公務局都有在做研議的配套\n對 因為就是說針對交通安全因為我們一再談的就是要回歸到這個四一就是教育還有這個工程還有就是監理法規應該都是要併重的因為我們就是說如果針對法律面一直在加重可是源頭的部分我們或相關的層面沒有去改善或者是就是做一些調整的話\n我想這個案件還是會一直這樣子的居高不下所以這個部分我們就是來再講到一個這是違規的一個部分就是當然就是駕駛人他們違規的時候有一個申訴的一個管道嘛\n因為我想這是對駕駛人的一個權利的一個保障因為就是會導致到後來他被吊銷或吊扣可能就是一些違規件數的一個累積之後被吊銷吊扣那其中有一個樣態就是跟次長這邊討論就是說像這個超速的部分超速的部分我們駕駛人可以提出申訴那最近就是說\n有一種狀況就是這個在蔡議委員他也曾經召開過記者會就是針對這個連結車的駕駛他被這個就是雷達測速拍照拍到說他超速了可是他的行車紀錄器啊顯示是沒有超速的可是在這種狀況下舉發單位都都不承認以至於說要走上這個行政訴訟啊走法院其實這對駕駛人也是一個折騰\n可是目前有一個其實已經有兩個案例了然後最近一個很新的案例也是最近在5月份5月19號已經判決來撤銷他的罰單的就是一個台塑貨運夜行司機這個駕駛他被舉發違規超速\n可是它的行車紀錄器其實事實上只有72公里所以在這個部分就是說本席要講的就是有關這個行車紀錄器它的證據力到底我們交通部這邊要怎樣來保障這個行車紀錄器的一個證據力然後來保障駕駛人的一個權益\n是報告委員 委員所提到的這幾個案例的部分我我自己有找這一個就是檢控署還包括法務部大家有共同來做這個演唱那這個第一點的部分就是說這個就是違規人只要能夠提出包括這一個就是說行政紀錄器我們俗稱的大餅\n或者是說這個因為導航都有GPS這些相關的部分只要能夠提出相關證據這個這個到這個來提出申訴的話這個處理機關都應該要受理那因為相關的證據他都要逐一來做這個檢視那另外一個部分的話大概\n這邊就提到一個部分因為這個東西是相對因為這個就是說行車紀錄器它是紀錄瞬間然後這個GPS基本上大概也是這樣子的一個部分但是測速照相它是這一個固定點然後相關有些東西時間的部分這個比對就必須要去做這個檢核但是裡面會有一個課題\n這個我也請這個警政署那邊大概也有作為檢討說如果說在一處這個固定測速的這個東西常常有這樣子違規的案件那回過頭來就要是這個看一下本身這個測速系統是不是有相關\n我當然這個檢控署所有的測數系統都用每年去送標準去做做驗證但是這種數位的東西這個基本上還是會有一些可能萬一啦所以只要有這樣的東西上次已經有請檢控署只要有這樣子一個趨勢跟現象的部分一定是先回過頭來這個看我們自己的一個系統那如果說確實系統有問題等等的部分那以往處理這些相關舉報的部分就要從寬來做一個處理\n對這個駕駛要遵守這個交通法令這個是一定的那不過就是說像這種狀況發生的時候也是會涉及到駕駛人的一個權益因為這個如果說他申訴不過的話可能就會導致他之後如果說又犯了一次或累犯\n它可能就會導致它的這個駕照被吊銷或吊扣吊扣的這樣的狀態所以我要講的就是說這個很多的結果我們要去推因就是說到底這個違規或者是這個案件的一個發生我們也要去合理的去了解之後然後才能夠來下降就是降低這樣子的一個無照的一個狀況\n然後讓我們的交通能夠更安全好 就這樣\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.549 --> 00:05.660\n好謝謝主席請主席邀請陳次長好來陳次長\n\n00:13.007 --> 00:36.072\n市長早安今天委員會就是針對道路交通管理處罰條例的修正草案進行詢問目前因為最近發生很多的交通事故主要就是高齡駕駛還有無照駕駛造成的交通事故所以也引起國人很高的關注\n\n00:36.892 --> 01:02.680\n所以導致有很多委員對這相關的法令的一個關心那今天本席想針對無照駕駛這個部分跟次長就是來請教因為我們知道根據統計就是目前每年約40萬件的交通事故當中就有5萬件是無照駕駛的案件那平均每年造成600多人的死亡就是6萬多人受傷\n\n01:03.400 --> 01:18.004\n是酒駕量乘這個車禍事故量乘死傷的6倍那我們根據警政署的一個統計就是無照駕駛裁罰的統計在112年裁罰的案件有316981件那去年113年裁罰是281107件那剛剛我們有聽到昆澤委員也針對這個議題在關心就是說這個部分也分成就是說\n\n01:31.987 --> 02:00.542\n有領駕照跟未領駕照的一個部分個別的一個數字就是未領駕照有17萬多那吊銷吊扣的有10萬多那還有包括就是吊銷吊扣之後無照駕駛的累犯的一個數字也都是居高不下那針對這個問題當然我們有些就是委員主張就是說要加重一個罰則那在這邊本席先請教一下就是這邊交通部有沒有什麼想法\n\n02:03.210 --> 02:15.406\n我簡單說明如果委員還要更細一點我再請林市長來做說明原則上我們大概精神會比照這裡有特別提到跟酒駕來相比所以會跟參考酒駕的立法例我們會區分汽車機車\n\n02:17.389 --> 02:43.858\n然後無照駕駛的情形給予不同處罰的額度然後另外還會有對於累犯然後來加重而且是仿照酒駕沒有上限的方式來設計那駕照的本身也會有吊扣的一個期限各種不同的期限甚至到終身不得考照那內部車輛我們會就是當場一致保管然後也會有一些吊扣的牌照的處理\n\n02:44.778 --> 03:06.409\n那最終呢當然我們也有所謂併把就是說那個所有人的車輛也要如果不是駕駛人本人的時候他也要有相關的一個罰款的一個處理我想大概用這樣的方式來比照酒駕看能不能對這個無照的駕駛能夠有一定的一個嚇阻\n\n03:07.395 --> 03:35.193\n是那就是我們看到就是說被吊銷吊扣駕照之後就是無照駕駛的這個就是累犯也是居高不下那針對這種狀況到底我們要加重這個罰則就能夠來解決這個問題嗎我想這個我們可能要再去做一個深度或者是廣泛的一個思考就是是不是我們也要去針對就是說造成無照駕駛\n\n03:36.534 --> 03:47.161\n的一些狀態類型是不是可以做一些分析然後從源頭去思考要怎樣來解決來降低這個無照駕駛的一個件數因為會造成無照駕駛當然就是說他們違規然後可能就是違反了道交條例的相關的一些規定之後然後被吊銷了駕照那吊銷駕照之後\n\n04:01.930 --> 04:14.306\n事實上就是說這些駕駛人因為有生計的一個問題或者交通的需求或者是公共運輸不夠便利所以他們只好就是抱著僥倖的心態鋌而走險\n\n04:16.949 --> 04:35.187\n就是繼續無照駕駛只要在這個吊扣吊銷的期間他能夠就是沒有違反規定或者是就是沒有發生事故的話他可能就是這樣子僥倖的度過了那個期間然後吊銷吊扣駕照期間到了\n\n04:36.088 --> 04:59.080\n就可以再重新領召當然這種抱著僥倖的心態也是不可取不過這個也就是一個因果循環真的就是可能什麼原因造成它有一個違規的部分所以我是建議說我們有沒有針對這一些無照駕駛的這一些違規案件有沒有去做過分析透過大數據的分析就是說大概是\n\n05:00.040 --> 05:14.570\n因為什麼樣的類型的那個違規造成他們叫駕照被調扣做過分析之後再針對這樣子的一個法令是不是需要再檢討的部分是不是可以這樣子做\n\n05:16.156 --> 05:40.366\n這個部分我再跟委員這個報告一下就是委員所提到的是真正這個防止無照駕駛的一個重點第一個無照駕駛我們現在廣泛所稱的無照駕駛包括從來沒有領過駕照的那第二個部分是駕照被吊銷被註銷這個輪駕駛那第三個部分是這一個就是說這一個吊扣期間輪駕駛那另外第五種是屬於這個有機車駕駛執照去開機車\n\n05:43.027 --> 05:52.420\n那這個部分部裡面確實是有分析第一個部分就是按機車跟汽車哪一個這個種類這個無照駕駛比較多那第二個部分就是按這個年齡這個未滿18歲的那這個18歲到這個64歲的那65歲\n\n06:00.891 --> 06:25.588\n這個以上的大概都有做這些相關的一個分析啦所以那這一次法令面的部分這次有提出來這一個就是說這一個就是說壘犯這一個無上限的部分其實那個部分大概主要是針對這一個就是說應該是零有駕駛執照但是駕照被吊銷因為酒駕貨等等的部分然後後面這個東西所以整盤的部分的話除了法規的修正面那其他的部分交通部跟公務局都有在做研議的配套\n\n06:26.108 --> 06:51.543\n對因為就是說針對交通安全因為我們一再談的就是要回歸到這個四一就是教育還有這個工程還有就是監理法規應該都是要併重的因為我們就是說如果針對法律面一直在加重可是源頭的部分我們或相關的層面沒有去改善或者是就是做一些調整的話\n\n06:52.784 --> 07:06.400\n我想這個案件還是會一直這樣子的居高不下所以這個部分我們就是來再講到一個這是違規的一個部分就是當然就是駕駛人他們違規的時候有一個申訴的一個管道嘛\n\n07:07.421 --> 07:32.270\n因為我想這是對駕駛人的一個權利的一個保障因為就是會導致到後來他被吊銷或吊扣可能就是一些違規件數的一個累積之後被吊銷吊扣那其中有一個樣態就是跟次長這邊討論就是說像這個超速的部分超速的部分我們駕駛人可以提出申訴那最近就是說\n\n07:33.050 --> 07:38.192\n有一種狀況就是這個在蔡議委員他也曾經召開過記者會就是針對這個連結車的駕駛他被這個就是雷達測速拍照拍到說他超速了可是他的行車紀錄器啊顯示是沒有超速的可是在這種狀況下舉發單位都都不承認以至於說要走上這個行政訴訟啊走法院其實這對駕駛人也是一個折騰\n\n08:02.003 --> 08:11.773\n可是目前有一個其實已經有兩個案例了然後最近一個很新的案例也是最近在5月份5月19號已經判決來撤銷他的罰單的就是一個台塑貨運夜行司機這個駕駛他被舉發違規超速\n\n08:21.523 --> 08:39.666\n可是它的行車紀錄器其實事實上只有72公里所以在這個部分就是說本席要講的就是有關這個行車紀錄器它的證據力到底我們交通部這邊要怎樣來保障這個行車紀錄器的一個證據力然後來保障駕駛人的一個權益\n\n08:40.976 --> 08:58.465\n是報告委員委員所提到的這幾個案例的部分我我自己有找這一個就是檢控署還包括法務部大家有共同來做這個演唱那這個第一點的部分就是說這個就是違規人只要能夠提出包括這一個就是說行政紀錄器我們俗稱的大餅\n\n08:59.085 --> 09:17.872\n或者是說這個因為導航都有GPS這些相關的部分只要能夠提出相關證據這個這個到這個來提出申訴的話這個處理機關都應該要受理那因為相關的證據他都要逐一來做這個檢視那另外一個部分的話大概\n\n09:19.092 --> 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就這樣"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":390,"blocks":[["陳委員素月：（10時19分）謝謝主席。麻煩主席邀請陳次長。"],["主席：請陳次長。"],["陳次長彥伯：委員好。"],["陳委員素月：次長早安。今天委員會針對道路交通管理處罰條例的修正草案進行詢答，可能就是因為最近發生很多交通事故，主要是高齡駕駛還有無照駕駛造成的交通事故，引起國人很高的關注，所以也導致有很多委員對相關法令的關心。今天本席想針對無照駕駛這個部分來請教次長，根據統計，目前每年約40萬件交通事故當中就有5萬件是無照駕駛案件，平均每年造成六百多人死亡、六萬多人受傷，是酒駕釀成車禍事故、釀成死傷的6倍。根據警政署無照駕駛裁罰統計，112年裁罰案件有31萬6,981件，去（113）年裁罰了28萬1,107件，剛剛我們有聽到昆澤委員也針對這個議題在關心，這個部分分成有領駕照跟未領駕照的部分，其中未領駕照有十七萬多，吊銷、吊扣的有十萬多，還有包括吊銷、吊扣之後無照駕駛累犯的數字也是居高不下，針對這個問題當然有些委員主張要加重罰則，本席先請教一下交通部有沒有什麼想法？"],["陳次長彥伯：我簡單說明，如果委員還要更細一點的，我再請林司長來做說明。原則上，我們的精神大概會比照這裡有特別提到的跟酒駕相比，所以會參考酒駕的立法例，我們會區分汽車、機車無照駕駛的情形而給予不同的處罰額度，另外還會對累犯加重處罰，而且是仿照酒駕沒有上限的方式來設計，駕照本身也會有吊扣的期限，有各種不同的期限，甚至到終身不得考照。那部車輛我們會當場移置保管，也會有一些吊扣牌照的處理，最終我們也有所謂的併罰，就是說所有人的車輛如果不是駕駛人本人的時候，他也要有相關的罰鍰處理，我想大概是用這樣的方式來比照酒駕，看能不能對無照駕駛有一定的嚇阻。"],["陳委員素月：我們看到被吊銷、吊扣駕照之後，無照駕駛的累犯也是居高不下，針對這種狀況，我們加重罰則就能夠解決這個問題嗎？我想我們可能要再去做一個深度或者廣泛的思考，我們是不是也要針對造成無照駕駛的一些狀態、類型做分析，然後從源頭去思考要怎樣來解決、降低無照駕駛的件數？之所以會造成無照駕駛，當然就是他們違規、違反道交條例的相關規定之後被吊銷駕照，那吊銷駕照之後，事實上，這些駕駛人因為有生計上的問題，或者有交通的需求，或者是公共運輸不夠便利，所以他們只好抱著僥倖的心態、鋌而走險繼續無照駕駛，他只要在吊扣、吊銷期間沒有違反規定或者沒有發生事故的話，他可能就這樣僥倖地度過了那個期間，吊銷、吊扣駕照期間一到，他就可以再重新領照，當然這種抱著僥倖的心態也是不可取，不過這也是一個因果循環，真的就是可能有什麼原因造成他有違規的部分，所以我建議，我們有沒有針對這些無照駕駛違規案件做過分析？透過大數據的分析，看看大概是因為什麼樣類型的違規造成他們駕照被吊扣，做過分析之後再針對這樣的法令是不是需要再檢討，是不是可以這樣子做？"],["林司長福山：這個部分我再跟委員報告一下，確實委員所提到的是真正防制無照駕駛的重點。第一個，我們現在廣泛所稱的無照駕駛，包括從來沒有領過駕照的；第二個部分是駕照被吊銷、被註銷仍駕駛；第三個部分是吊扣期間仍駕駛；還有另外一種是屬於有機車駕駛執照去開汽車。這個部分部裡面確實是有分析：第一個部分就是按機車跟汽車，看哪一個種類無照駕駛比較多；第二個部分就是按年齡，未滿18歲的、18歲到64歲的、65歲以上的，大概都有做這些相關的分析。這一次法令面有提出累犯無上限的部分，其實主要是針對應該是領有駕駛執照，但是駕照被吊銷，因為酒駕等等因素，所以整盤的部分除了法規的修正面，其他部分交通部跟公路局都有在研議配套。"],["陳委員素月：針對交通安全，我們一再談的就是要回歸到4E（教育、工程、監理、法規），應該都要並重，因為我們如果針對法律面一直在加重，可是源頭的部分或相關的層面沒有去改善或者做一些調整的話，我想這個案件還是會一直這樣居高不下。這個部分我們要再講到一個違規的部分，當然駕駛人違規的時候會有一個申訴的管道，我想這是對駕駛人權利的保障，因為會導致後來他被吊銷或吊扣，可能就是一些違規件數累積之後被吊銷、吊扣。其中有一個樣態要跟次長討論，像超速的部分，我們駕駛人可以提出申訴，最近有一種狀況，蔡易餘委員也曾經召開過記者會，就是針對聯結車駕駛被雷達測速儀拍到他超速了，可是他的行車紀錄器顯示是沒有超速的，在這種狀況下，舉發單位都不承認，以致於要走上行政訴訟、走法院，其實這對駕駛人也是一個折騰。目前已經有兩個案例，最近一個很新的案例是在5月份，5月19號已經判決撤銷他的罰單，就是一個台塑貨運葉姓司機被舉發違規超速，可是他的行車紀錄器事實上只有72公里，所以在這個部分本席要講的就是，有關行車紀錄器的證據力，到底我們交通部這邊要怎樣來保障行車紀錄器的證據力，然後來保障駕駛人的權益？"],["林司長福山：報告委員，委員所提到的這幾個案例，我自己有找警政署包括法務部，大家共同來做研商。第一點，違規人只要能夠提出包括行車紀錄器，就是我們俗稱的大餅，或者因為導航都有GPS這些相關的部分，只要能夠提出相關證據來提出申訴的話，處理機關都應該要受理，因為相關的證據他們都要逐一來做檢視。另外一個部分，大概這邊就提到一個部分，因為這個東西是相對，行車紀錄器是紀錄瞬間，GPS基本上大概也是這樣，但是測速照相是固定點，然後相關有些東西像時間等等的部分，這個比對就必須要去做檢核，但是裡面會有一個課題，我也請警政署那邊做一個檢討，如果說在一處固定測速常常有這樣子……"],["陳委員素月：違規的案件。"],["林司長福山：對、對，那回過頭來就要去看一下，本身這個測速系統是不是……"],["陳委員素月：是不是有問題……"],["林司長福山：當然警政署的所有測速系統每年都有送標檢局做驗證，但是這種數位的東西，基本上可能還是會有一些萬一啦，所以只要有這樣的東西，上次已經有請警政署，只要有這樣的趨勢、現象，一定是先回過頭看我們自己的系統，如果說確實系統有問題等等，那以往處理這些相關舉發的部分就要從寬來做處理。"],["陳委員素月：對，駕駛要遵守交通法令，這個是一定的，不過像這種狀況發生的時候也是會涉及到駕駛人的權益，因為如果他申訴不過地話，之後如果又再犯一次或累犯，可能就會導致他的駕照被吊銷或吊扣這樣的狀態。所以我要講的就是，很多的結果我們也要去推因，對於違規或者案件的發生，我們也要合理地了解之後，然後才能夠降低無照的狀況，讓我們的交通能夠更安全，就這樣。"],["陳次長彥伯：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝陳素月委員的質詢。","現在我們更正，我們現在來處理臨時提案。","請議事人員宣讀第1案。","交通部於5月20日宣布，駕照管理將有3大變革，包含考試加嚴增加鑑別度、強化違規者安全駕駛風險意識、協助高齡者安全駕駛，預計3個月內會有細部規劃，希望明年就可推動高齡駕駛換照新措施。","然而「高齡駕駛」制度要上路前，應考量偏鄉地區交通資源稀缺，長者無大眾交通運輸可搭，針對不能換照的高齡駕駛給予TPASS等交通票券優惠，無助於偏鄉長者日常生活利用。","請交通部欲頒布高齡駕駛換照新措施前，應完整考量偏鄉地區交通及經濟因素，提出完整之相關配套，始得推行高齡換照新措施，並於兩個月內先行提出針對偏鄉長者之交通替代方案報告。","提案人：徐富癸　　陳素月　　何欣純"],["主席：請問主管機關有沒有意見？"],["林司長福山：跟召委報告，建議最後一行「替代方案報告」增加兩個字，就是「替代方案書面報告」，這個部分有跟徐委員報告過，徐委員也同意。"],["主席：好，徐委員跟陳委員有沒有意見？（無）沒有，本提案修正通過。","臨時提案處理完畢，如有委員對於上述提案補簽，列入紀錄並刊登公報。","現在繼續質詢。我們請徐富癸委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":406,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-23-15","speakers":["林國成","林思銘","林月琴","廖先翔","牛煦庭","游顥","羅廷瑋","林德福","洪孟楷","李昆澤","黃國昌","陳素月","徐富癸","何欣純","魯明哲","黃健豪","蔡其昌","邱若華","許智傑","陳雪生","王育敏","鄭天財Sra 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人、二十\n六、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十七、委\n員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修\n正草案」、二十八、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條\n文修正草案」、二十九、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草\n案」、三十、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十一、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例\n第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十二、台灣民眾黨黨團 (11-1-13) 、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團\n(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十四、委員羅智強\n等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十五、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十六、委員魯明哲等16人\n擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員林俊憲等20人、三十八、\n委員廖先翔等19人、三十九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具分別「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文\n修正草案」及四十、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草\n案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1145802_00004"}}}