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00:01:39,728\n對我們會非常的產業造成非常大的一個衝擊面我想我們交通部有一個車輛安全審驗的一個管理辦法那相關的規範我想應該交通部要更嚴格來做一個處理啦市長這部分有沒有辦法來達成\n\n5\n00:01:40,708 --> 00:01:58,023\n我想跟我委員說明整個車輛的一個進口其實是有好幾個環節那原則上所有行政機關大家會共同努力那當然我們這裡有車輛行駛安全審驗辦法那交通部也會配合相關單位大家共同來防範這樣的一個稀產地的事情來發生\n\n6\n00:01:59,564 --> 00:02:22,249\n市長我想我們還是要積極跟經濟部這幾個部位來合作必要時候應該要提出相關的一個反制措施,我們就要下去解決,不可以讓他們這樣我了解整個行政院有在處理對,要不然我想這個也是一個很嚴重的國安問題那是不是真的這個部分麻煩交通部在一個月之內提出一個書面報告給我們辦公室好不好沒問題\n\n7\n00:02:24,449 --> 00:02:47,993\n那另外我想另外一個很嚴重的問題就是這個除了BRD之外中華汽車一直也受到我們這個習慘力的一個影響尤其像英國的一個汽車品牌MG也遭到中國大陸的收購那裕隆他們也透過這樣的一個模式這個在台灣做一個行銷的一個策略那不曉得江東部罪這個部分有沒有掌握相關的訊息\n\n8\n00:02:49,818 --> 00:03:18,372\n這個幫我跟委員報告有關於這個像這個中華汽車生產在台灣組裝MG的這個部分交通部應該在去年開始就跟這個經濟部充分這個合作那有關於這個在台組裝的這些在地化的一個比例那這個產發署這邊有一個規定那這個交通部在後端在他們受理來申請審議的時候我們逐一都會去做確認而且必須要確認產發署同意的這個文件\n\n9\n00:03:20,273 --> 00:03:37,082\n目前有問題嗎目前的部分我知道說有車險是符合經濟部管制的一個規定這個部分的話原則上就是說我們後端的審驗的部分都要一定要經過經濟部同意之後才能夠到我們這邊來申請審驗\n\n10\n00:03:38,971 --> 00:03:50,536\n好那我想我們台灣自己對於這個電動車的一個部分我想我們也應該要支持這樣一個國產的一個目標但是到目前為止國發會奠定的目標2030年要達到電動機車35%的新車佔比這個\n\n11\n00:03:57,799 --> 00:04:11,058\n市長我們這部分我們有信心嗎距離這樣的時間點雖然我們的民眾很支持但是看起來銷售的狀況不是很理想這部分我們要怎麼樣教他們怎麼樣來強化這樣的一個市佔率的一個提升\n\n12\n00:04:12,762 --> 00:04:38,097\n跟副委員報告一下整個這個運氣電動化戰略區的部分是由交通部來做組織來做組織啦但是相關這個合作的部分包括經濟部包括環境部包括是對對那有關於這個電動機車的部分確實跟陳副委員所提到的部分在這個去年跟今年目標因為受到這個燃油車這個薛價競爭的一個這個部分那還有一些這個電池交換使用的一個課題確實這個目標\n\n13\n00:04:40,458 --> 00:05:06,917\n都還必須要這個努力那這個部分的話我們已經跟廠方署廠方署這邊相關的補助規定還有相關的一個這個就是說譬如說這個工業區要興建那有一些相關有在地區加碼做補助的部分我們都有跟廠方署這邊持續來檢討對啦尤其是我們偏鄉你就沒有那個交換站可以往電梯上面他們都要去有這個廠方署這邊有呼籲要自己來做一個盤點跟規劃嘛是是是\n\n14\n00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:32,903\n未來跟經濟部來共同合作對我想我們這個我們也是要往前再推進啦這個畢竟這個是盡力環保的一個很重要的一個是是是是好那市長我想今天審查這個吊膠倒膠條例本席也提出一個議題那因為我們近期高雄市有一位行人過馬路的時候並沒有禮讓執勤中的一個救護車甚至還對這個\n\n15\n00:05:34,724 --> 00:05:56,682\n駕駛比中止所以我想這部分我們認為這樣子是很不好的一個行為那但是交通部的回應是根據我們的道交條例第78條可以罰500塊但是我認為這樣罰得太低啦應該是我們要來強制是不是比照這個汽車駕駛如果阻擋的話處罰3600的部分交通部能不能認同這樣的一個提案\n\n16\n00:05:58,115 --> 00:06:22,325\n我想跟委員報告來確保這個救護車在執行他任務的時候的一個行車的一個順暢我想這個是應該是不管是交通部也好或國人高度的一個共識但是有關這個罰還額度是不是過低應該要提高這部分呢其實我們交通部是尊重整個這個立法院大家審議的一個結果好我想我們還是要確保我們這樣的一個安全的一個環境是是是\n\n17\n00:06:22,645 --> 00:06:37,878\n那剛剛本市有提了一個臨時提案就是針對我們當然針對最近的這個高齡駕駛的一些問題產生但是我們還是要幫我們整個的中國市場講一句話啦他們不是喜歡開車不是喜歡騎車是因為我們的大眾交通運輸\n\n18\n00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:51,932\n這沒方便小黃公車也沒方便所以逼著他們自己一定要自己開車騎車上路這不是不能歸咎於他們所以我們才會要求說在這樣子的一個狀況之下應該全面來盤點我們所有的一個運輸的一個機制\n\n19\n00:06:55,396 --> 00:07:13,086\n因為有方便的車公車很多有小玩公車很多大家有什麼要自己做的事情很危險我們都知道問題是他們是無奈的啊他們要處理賣菜看醫生就是必須要靠自己吧所以我們這部分我們要求交通部要趕快來做盤點那甚至我們最近聽到的我們的客運業者\n\n20\n00:07:15,247 --> 00:07:40,485\n有一條1613路線台北到屏東也申請停駛我想這些對於這個整個屏東的交通平權我想我們都希望能夠逐步來提升但是目前高鐵南沿屏東要2039年才完成那我們的巴士的部分能不能再增加一個這樣的一個運輸的量能不然我們就剩1吋鐵路而已這樣對我們很不公平部長這部分是不是可以來做協調\n\n21\n00:07:43,243 --> 00:08:09,509\n有關這個是不是停駛的申請我想那個公路局大概應該有跟業者做相關的協討那部裡頭的基本的立場就是民眾的基本民行的這部分是要確保的那是不是有其他的替代的方案或者是行使其他的路線來取代代替等等的我想這個公路局後續他們會去來做處理除了這個之外長途之外甚至我們過去因為\n\n22\n00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:39,007\n這客運業因為也因為虧損的問題所以包含我們有時候恆春半島一些偏鄉這區間的一些他也沒要開啊是這實在對我們是很不公平的是這部分我們請公路總局公路局去了解一下然後看怎麼樣來這個是一個責任不是一個對用那個用利益來來交換的一個條件嘛所以我剛才講說基本民行的確保這是交通部的既定的一個政策跟方向我們會請公路局本這樣的一個原則來做相關的規劃\n\n23\n00:08:39,847 --> 00:08:59,073\n好所以我想像我們5月5號我們交通委員會有到屏東考察那當時是您帶隊我們這個屏東縣的單車國道的這一段路面受損非常的嚴重那我想這次當中也有承諾這個部分我們優先處理那經過一個月了這個案好像還沒有核定\n\n24\n00:09:00,114 --> 00:09:22,587\n這部分呢我想車公路局相關的程序正在處理處理完進速報到部裡頭我們會進速來核定這個我想這個行人的交通安全我們很重視這個單車騎士的安全你們也要重視要不然你騎一騎跌倒要申請國賠你也會去啦是是是要儘處理啦我們會加速相關核定的一個程序什麼時候可以完成給我們一個答案好不好\n\n25\n00:09:27,327 --> 00:09:53,245\n跟委員報告就是四月份的時候大概就是縣府修完然後我們南分局大概也有報局了我們會這個加速來審查然後盡速在一個月內我們會報報布這樣子好一個月啊我們報布啦我們把我們的審查的結果報布可不可以拖這麼久嗎次郎委員我們盡快來核定啦是我想這個加速來處理加速來努力啦謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3591\t29521\t謝謝主席有請我們陳次長陳次長委員好市長早市長針對最近這個大陸的電動車的製造廠BRD他準備積極拓展海外市場甚至瞄準臺灣要進軍甚至要用這個地價策略來促銷不曉得交通部有沒有介紹相關的一個訊息\n30621\t56443\t我們是不是請林市長來做說明報告委員這個課題大概這個報宅也有提到國內代理商可能就是說比亞底據我所了解的部分大概就是說大陸廠牌比亞底可能在泰國設廠那國內代理商有這個代理的一個意願那這個東西涉及到因為現行的規定是大陸整車這個不得經好那這個部分的話包括這個經濟部這邊大概都很密切關注這樣子的這個課題\n57964\t83865\t那在行政部門之間內部大概也有跨部會的這個會議在延長這個相關的一個這個事宜這個交通部已經知道這一點我想我們還是要特別再提醒交通部現在我們掌握到的訊息也是他們透過這個泰國製造的部分達到一個息產力的一個效果那我想過去中國很多的產品已經透過東南亞的一個這樣的一個模式來運作那把東西都這樣請銷到台灣來\n86167\t99728\t對我們會非常的產業造成非常大的一個衝擊面我想我們交通部有一個車輛安全審驗的一個管理辦法那相關的規範我想應該交通部要更嚴格來做一個處理啦市長這部分有沒有辦法來達成\n100708\t118023\t我想跟我委員說明整個車輛的一個進口其實是有好幾個環節那原則上所有行政機關大家會共同努力那當然我們這裡有車輛行駛安全審驗辦法那交通部也會配合相關單位大家共同來防範這樣的一個稀產地的事情來發生\n119564\t142249\t市長我想我們還是要積極跟經濟部這幾個部位來合作必要時候應該要提出相關的一個反制措施,我們就要下去解決,不可以讓他們這樣我了解整個行政院有在處理對,要不然我想這個也是一個很嚴重的國安問題那是不是真的這個部分麻煩交通部在一個月之內提出一個書面報告給我們辦公室好不好沒問題\n144449\t167993\t那另外我想另外一個很嚴重的問題就是這個除了BRD之外中華汽車一直也受到我們這個習慘力的一個影響尤其像英國的一個汽車品牌MG也遭到中國大陸的收購那裕隆他們也透過這樣的一個模式這個在台灣做一個行銷的一個策略那不曉得江東部罪這個部分有沒有掌握相關的訊息\n169818\t198372\t這個幫我跟委員報告有關於這個像這個中華汽車生產在台灣組裝MG的這個部分交通部應該在去年開始就跟這個經濟部充分這個合作那有關於這個在台組裝的這些在地化的一個比例那這個產發署這邊有一個規定那這個交通部在後端在他們受理來申請審議的時候我們逐一都會去做確認而且必須要確認產發署同意的這個文件\n200273\t217082\t目前有問題嗎目前的部分我知道說有車險是符合經濟部管制的一個規定這個部分的話原則上就是說我們後端的審驗的部分都要一定要經過經濟部同意之後才能夠到我們這邊來申請審驗\n218971\t230536\t好 那我想我們台灣自己對於這個電動車的一個部分我想我們也應該要支持這樣一個國產的一個目標但是到目前為止國發會奠定的目標2030年要達到電動機車35%的新車佔比這個\n237799\t251058\t市長我們這部分我們有信心嗎距離這樣的時間點雖然我們的民眾很支持但是看起來銷售的狀況不是很理想這部分我們要怎麼樣教他們怎麼樣來強化這樣的一個市佔率的一個提升\n252762\t278097\t跟副委員報告一下整個這個運氣電動化戰略區的部分是由交通部來做組織來做組織啦但是相關這個合作的部分包括經濟部包括環境部包括是對對那有關於這個電動機車的部分確實跟陳副委員所提到的部分在這個去年跟今年目標因為受到這個燃油車這個薛價競爭的一個這個部分那還有一些這個電池交換使用的一個課題確實這個目標\n280458\t306917\t都還必須要這個努力那這個部分的話我們已經跟廠方署廠方署這邊相關的補助規定還有相關的一個這個就是說譬如說這個工業區要興建那有一些相關有在地區加碼做補助的部分我們都有跟廠方署這邊持續來檢討對啦尤其是我們偏鄉你就沒有那個交換站可以往電梯上面他們都要去有這個廠方署這邊有呼籲要自己來做一個盤點跟規劃嘛是是是\n309090\t332903\t未來跟經濟部來共同合作對我想我們這個我們也是要往前再推進啦這個畢竟這個是盡力環保的一個很重要的一個是是是是好那市長我想今天審查這個吊膠倒膠條例本席也提出一個議題那因為我們近期高雄市有一位行人過馬路的時候並沒有禮讓執勤中的一個救護車甚至還對這個\n334724\t356682\t駕駛比中止所以我想這部分我們認為這樣子是很不好的一個行為那但是交通部的回應是根據我們的道交條例第78條可以罰500塊但是我認為這樣罰得太低啦應該是我們要來強制是不是比照這個汽車駕駛如果阻擋的話處罰3600的部分交通部能不能認同這樣的一個提案\n358115\t382325\t我想跟委員報告來確保這個救護車在執行他任務的時候的一個行車的一個順暢我想這個是應該是不管是交通部也好或國人高度的一個共識但是有關這個罰還額度是不是過低應該要提高這部分呢其實我們交通部是尊重整個這個立法院大家審議的一個結果好我想我們還是要確保我們這樣的一個安全的一個環境是是是\n382645\t397878\t那剛剛本市有提了一個臨時提案就是針對我們當然針對最近的這個高齡駕駛的一些問題產生但是我們還是要幫我們整個的中國市場講一句話啦他們不是喜歡開車不是喜歡騎車是因為我們的大眾交通運輸\n399079\t411932\t這沒方便 小黃公車也沒方便所以逼著他們自己一定要自己開車 騎車上路這不是不能歸咎於他們所以我們才會要求說在這樣子的一個狀況之下應該全面來盤點我們所有的一個運輸的一個機制\n415396\t433086\t因為有方便的車公車很多有小玩公車很多大家有什麼要自己做的事情很危險我們都知道問題是他們是無奈的啊他們要處理賣菜看醫生就是必須要靠自己吧所以我們這部分我們要求交通部要趕快來做盤點那甚至我們最近聽到的我們的客運業者\n435247\t460485\t有一條1613路線台北到屏東也申請停駛我想這些對於這個整個屏東的交通平權我想我們都希望能夠逐步來提升但是目前高鐵南沿屏東要2039年才完成那我們的巴士的部分能不能再增加一個這樣的一個運輸的量能不然我們就剩1吋鐵路而已這樣對我們很不公平部長這部分是不是可以來做協調\n463243\t489509\t有關這個是不是停駛的申請我想那個公路局大概應該有跟業者做相關的協討那部裡頭的基本的立場就是民眾的基本民行的這部分是要確保的那是不是有其他的替代的方案或者是行使其他的路線來取代代替等等的我想這個公路局後續他們會去來做處理除了這個之外長途之外甚至我們過去因為\n490449\t519007\t這客運業因為也因為虧損的問題所以包含我們有時候恆春半島一些偏鄉這區間的一些他也沒要開啊是這實在對我們是很不公平的是這部分我們請公路總局公路局去了解一下然後看怎麼樣來這個是一個責任不是一個對用那個用利益來來交換的一個條件嘛所以我剛才講說基本民行的確保這是交通部的既定的一個政策跟方向我們會請公路局本這樣的一個原則來做相關的規劃\n519847\t539073\t好所以我想像我們5月5號我們交通委員會有到屏東考察那當時是您帶隊我們這個屏東縣的單車國道的這一段路面受損非常的嚴重那我想這次當中也有承諾這個部分我們優先處理那經過一個月了這個案好像還沒有核定\n540114\t562587\t這部分呢 我想車公路局相關的程序正在處理處理完 進速報到部裡頭 我們會進速來核定這個我想這個行人的交通安全我們很重視這個單車騎士的安全 你們也要重視要不然你騎一騎跌倒要申請國賠 你也會去啦是是是 要儘處理啦我們會加速相關核定的一個程序什麼時候可以完成 給我們一個答案好不好\n567327\t593245\t跟委員報告就是四月份的時候大概就是縣府修完然後我們南分局大概也有報局了我們會這個加速來審查然後盡速在一個月內我們會報報布這樣子好 一個月啊我們報布啦我們把我們的審查的結果報布可不可以拖這麼久嗎 次郎委員我們盡快來核定啦 是我想這個 加速來處理加速來努力啦 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請我們陳次長陳次長委員好市長早市長針對最近這個大陸的電動車的製造廠BRD他準備積極拓展海外市場甚至瞄準臺灣要進軍甚至要用這個地價策略來促銷不曉得交通部有沒有介紹相關的一個訊息\n我們是不是請林市長來做說明報告委員這個課題大概這個報宅也有提到國內代理商可能就是說比亞底據我所了解的部分大概就是說大陸廠牌比亞底可能在泰國設廠那國內代理商有這個代理的一個意願那這個東西涉及到因為現行的規定是大陸整車這個不得經好那這個部分的話包括這個經濟部這邊大概都很密切關注這樣子的這個課題\n那在行政部門之間內部大概也有跨部會的這個會議在延長這個相關的一個這個事宜這個交通部已經知道這一點我想我們還是要特別再提醒交通部現在我們掌握到的訊息也是他們透過這個泰國製造的部分達到一個息產力的一個效果那我想過去中國很多的產品已經透過東南亞的一個這樣的一個模式來運作那把東西都這樣請銷到台灣來\n對我們會非常的產業造成非常大的一個衝擊面我想我們交通部有一個車輛安全審驗的一個管理辦法那相關的規範我想應該交通部要更嚴格來做一個處理啦市長這部分有沒有辦法來達成\n我想跟我委員說明整個車輛的一個進口其實是有好幾個環節那原則上所有行政機關大家會共同努力那當然我們這裡有車輛行駛安全審驗辦法那交通部也會配合相關單位大家共同來防範這樣的一個稀產地的事情來發生\n市長我想我們還是要積極跟經濟部這幾個部位來合作必要時候應該要提出相關的一個反制措施,我們就要下去解決,不可以讓他們這樣我了解整個行政院有在處理對,要不然我想這個也是一個很嚴重的國安問題那是不是真的這個部分麻煩交通部在一個月之內提出一個書面報告給我們辦公室好不好沒問題\n那另外我想另外一個很嚴重的問題就是這個除了BRD之外中華汽車一直也受到我們這個習慘力的一個影響尤其像英國的一個汽車品牌MG也遭到中國大陸的收購那裕隆他們也透過這樣的一個模式這個在台灣做一個行銷的一個策略那不曉得江東部罪這個部分有沒有掌握相關的訊息\n這個幫我跟委員報告有關於這個像這個中華汽車生產在台灣組裝MG的這個部分交通部應該在去年開始就跟這個經濟部充分這個合作那有關於這個在台組裝的這些在地化的一個比例那這個產發署這邊有一個規定那這個交通部在後端在他們受理來申請審議的時候我們逐一都會去做確認而且必須要確認產發署同意的這個文件\n目前有問題嗎目前的部分我知道說有車險是符合經濟部管制的一個規定這個部分的話原則上就是說我們後端的審驗的部分都要一定要經過經濟部同意之後才能夠到我們這邊來申請審驗\n好 那我想我們台灣自己對於這個電動車的一個部分我想我們也應該要支持這樣一個國產的一個目標但是到目前為止國發會奠定的目標2030年要達到電動機車35%的新車佔比這個\n市長我們這部分我們有信心嗎距離這樣的時間點雖然我們的民眾很支持但是看起來銷售的狀況不是很理想這部分我們要怎麼樣教他們怎麼樣來強化這樣的一個市佔率的一個提升\n跟副委員報告一下整個這個運氣電動化戰略區的部分是由交通部來做組織來做組織啦但是相關這個合作的部分包括經濟部包括環境部包括是對對那有關於這個電動機車的部分確實跟陳副委員所提到的部分在這個去年跟今年目標因為受到這個燃油車這個薛價競爭的一個這個部分那還有一些這個電池交換使用的一個課題確實這個目標\n都還必須要這個努力那這個部分的話我們已經跟廠方署廠方署這邊相關的補助規定還有相關的一個這個就是說譬如說這個工業區要興建那有一些相關有在地區加碼做補助的部分我們都有跟廠方署這邊持續來檢討對啦尤其是我們偏鄉你就沒有那個交換站可以往電梯上面他們都要去有這個廠方署這邊有呼籲要自己來做一個盤點跟規劃嘛是是是\n未來跟經濟部來共同合作對我想我們這個我們也是要往前再推進啦這個畢竟這個是盡力環保的一個很重要的一個是是是是好那市長我想今天審查這個吊膠倒膠條例本席也提出一個議題那因為我們近期高雄市有一位行人過馬路的時候並沒有禮讓執勤中的一個救護車甚至還對這個\n駕駛比中止所以我想這部分我們認為這樣子是很不好的一個行為那但是交通部的回應是根據我們的道交條例第78條可以罰500塊但是我認為這樣罰得太低啦應該是我們要來強制是不是比照這個汽車駕駛如果阻擋的話處罰3600的部分交通部能不能認同這樣的一個提案\n我想跟委員報告來確保這個救護車在執行他任務的時候的一個行車的一個順暢我想這個是應該是不管是交通部也好或國人高度的一個共識但是有關這個罰還額度是不是過低應該要提高這部分呢其實我們交通部是尊重整個這個立法院大家審議的一個結果好我想我們還是要確保我們這樣的一個安全的一個環境是是是\n那剛剛本市有提了一個臨時提案就是針對我們當然針對最近的這個高齡駕駛的一些問題產生但是我們還是要幫我們整個的中國市場講一句話啦他們不是喜歡開車不是喜歡騎車是因為我們的大眾交通運輸\n這沒方便 小黃公車也沒方便所以逼著他們自己一定要自己開車 騎車上路這不是不能歸咎於他們所以我們才會要求說在這樣子的一個狀況之下應該全面來盤點我們所有的一個運輸的一個機制\n因為有方便的車公車很多有小玩公車很多大家有什麼要自己做的事情很危險我們都知道問題是他們是無奈的啊他們要處理賣菜看醫生就是必須要靠自己吧所以我們這部分我們要求交通部要趕快來做盤點那甚至我們最近聽到的我們的客運業者\n有一條1613路線台北到屏東也申請停駛我想這些對於這個整個屏東的交通平權我想我們都希望能夠逐步來提升但是目前高鐵南沿屏東要2039年才完成那我們的巴士的部分能不能再增加一個這樣的一個運輸的量能不然我們就剩1吋鐵路而已這樣對我們很不公平部長這部分是不是可以來做協調\n有關這個是不是停駛的申請我想那個公路局大概應該有跟業者做相關的協討那部裡頭的基本的立場就是民眾的基本民行的這部分是要確保的那是不是有其他的替代的方案或者是行使其他的路線來取代代替等等的我想這個公路局後續他們會去來做處理除了這個之外長途之外甚至我們過去因為\n這客運業因為也因為虧損的問題所以包含我們有時候恆春半島一些偏鄉這區間的一些他也沒要開啊是這實在對我們是很不公平的是這部分我們請公路總局公路局去了解一下然後看怎麼樣來這個是一個責任不是一個對用那個用利益來來交換的一個條件嘛所以我剛才講說基本民行的確保這是交通部的既定的一個政策跟方向我們會請公路局本這樣的一個原則來做相關的規劃\n好所以我想像我們5月5號我們交通委員會有到屏東考察那當時是您帶隊我們這個屏東縣的單車國道的這一段路面受損非常的嚴重那我想這次當中也有承諾這個部分我們優先處理那經過一個月了這個案好像還沒有核定\n這部分呢 我想車公路局相關的程序正在處理處理完 進速報到部裡頭 我們會進速來核定這個我想這個行人的交通安全我們很重視這個單車騎士的安全 你們也要重視要不然你騎一騎跌倒要申請國賠 你也會去啦是是是 要儘處理啦我們會加速相關核定的一個程序什麼時候可以完成 給我們一個答案好不好\n跟委員報告就是四月份的時候大概就是縣府修完然後我們南分局大概也有報局了我們會這個加速來審查然後盡速在一個月內我們會報報布這樣子好 一個月啊我們報布啦我們把我們的審查的結果報布可不可以拖這麼久嗎 次郎委員我們盡快來核定啦 是我想這個 加速來處理加速來努力啦 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.591 --> 00:29.521\n謝謝主席有請我們陳次長陳次長委員好市長早市長針對最近這個大陸的電動車的製造廠BRD他準備積極拓展海外市場甚至瞄準臺灣要進軍甚至要用這個地價策略來促銷不曉得交通部有沒有介紹相關的一個訊息\n\n00:30.621 --> 00:56.443\n我們是不是請林市長來做說明報告委員這個課題大概這個報宅也有提到國內代理商可能就是說比亞底據我所了解的部分大概就是說大陸廠牌比亞底可能在泰國設廠那國內代理商有這個代理的一個意願那這個東西涉及到因為現行的規定是大陸整車這個不得經好那這個部分的話包括這個經濟部這邊大概都很密切關注這樣子的這個課題\n\n00:57.964 --> 01:23.865\n那在行政部門之間內部大概也有跨部會的這個會議在延長這個相關的一個這個事宜這個交通部已經知道這一點我想我們還是要特別再提醒交通部現在我們掌握到的訊息也是他們透過這個泰國製造的部分達到一個息產力的一個效果那我想過去中國很多的產品已經透過東南亞的一個這樣的一個模式來運作那把東西都這樣請銷到台灣來\n\n01:26.167 --> 01:39.728\n對我們會非常的產業造成非常大的一個衝擊面我想我們交通部有一個車輛安全審驗的一個管理辦法那相關的規範我想應該交通部要更嚴格來做一個處理啦市長這部分有沒有辦法來達成\n\n01:40.708 --> 01:58.023\n我想跟我委員說明整個車輛的一個進口其實是有好幾個環節那原則上所有行政機關大家會共同努力那當然我們這裡有車輛行駛安全審驗辦法那交通部也會配合相關單位大家共同來防範這樣的一個稀產地的事情來發生\n\n01:59.564 --> 02:22.249\n市長我想我們還是要積極跟經濟部這幾個部位來合作必要時候應該要提出相關的一個反制措施,我們就要下去解決,不可以讓他們這樣我了解整個行政院有在處理對,要不然我想這個也是一個很嚴重的國安問題那是不是真的這個部分麻煩交通部在一個月之內提出一個書面報告給我們辦公室好不好沒問題\n\n02:24.449 --> 02:47.993\n那另外我想另外一個很嚴重的問題就是這個除了BRD之外中華汽車一直也受到我們這個習慘力的一個影響尤其像英國的一個汽車品牌MG也遭到中國大陸的收購那裕隆他們也透過這樣的一個模式這個在台灣做一個行銷的一個策略那不曉得江東部罪這個部分有沒有掌握相關的訊息\n\n02:49.818 --> 03:18.372\n這個幫我跟委員報告有關於這個像這個中華汽車生產在台灣組裝MG的這個部分交通部應該在去年開始就跟這個經濟部充分這個合作那有關於這個在台組裝的這些在地化的一個比例那這個產發署這邊有一個規定那這個交通部在後端在他們受理來申請審議的時候我們逐一都會去做確認而且必須要確認產發署同意的這個文件\n\n03:20.273 --> 03:37.082\n目前有問題嗎目前的部分我知道說有車險是符合經濟部管制的一個規定這個部分的話原則上就是說我們後端的審驗的部分都要一定要經過經濟部同意之後才能夠到我們這邊來申請審驗\n\n03:38.971 --> 03:50.536\n好那我想我們台灣自己對於這個電動車的一個部分我想我們也應該要支持這樣一個國產的一個目標但是到目前為止國發會奠定的目標2030年要達到電動機車35%的新車佔比這個\n\n03:57.799 --> 04:11.058\n市長我們這部分我們有信心嗎距離這樣的時間點雖然我們的民眾很支持但是看起來銷售的狀況不是很理想這部分我們要怎麼樣教他們怎麼樣來強化這樣的一個市佔率的一個提升\n\n04:12.762 --> 04:38.097\n跟副委員報告一下整個這個運氣電動化戰略區的部分是由交通部來做組織來做組織啦但是相關這個合作的部分包括經濟部包括環境部包括是對對那有關於這個電動機車的部分確實跟陳副委員所提到的部分在這個去年跟今年目標因為受到這個燃油車這個薛價競爭的一個這個部分那還有一些這個電池交換使用的一個課題確實這個目標\n\n04:40.458 --> 05:06.917\n都還必須要這個努力那這個部分的話我們已經跟廠方署廠方署這邊相關的補助規定還有相關的一個這個就是說譬如說這個工業區要興建那有一些相關有在地區加碼做補助的部分我們都有跟廠方署這邊持續來檢討對啦尤其是我們偏鄉你就沒有那個交換站可以往電梯上面他們都要去有這個廠方署這邊有呼籲要自己來做一個盤點跟規劃嘛是是是\n\n05:09.090 --> 05:32.903\n未來跟經濟部來共同合作對我想我們這個我們也是要往前再推進啦這個畢竟這個是盡力環保的一個很重要的一個是是是是好那市長我想今天審查這個吊膠倒膠條例本席也提出一個議題那因為我們近期高雄市有一位行人過馬路的時候並沒有禮讓執勤中的一個救護車甚至還對這個\n\n05:34.724 --> 05:56.682\n駕駛比中止所以我想這部分我們認為這樣子是很不好的一個行為那但是交通部的回應是根據我們的道交條例第78條可以罰500塊但是我認為這樣罰得太低啦應該是我們要來強制是不是比照這個汽車駕駛如果阻擋的話處罰3600的部分交通部能不能認同這樣的一個提案\n\n05:58.115 --> 06:22.325\n我想跟委員報告來確保這個救護車在執行他任務的時候的一個行車的一個順暢我想這個是應該是不管是交通部也好或國人高度的一個共識但是有關這個罰還額度是不是過低應該要提高這部分呢其實我們交通部是尊重整個這個立法院大家審議的一個結果好我想我們還是要確保我們這樣的一個安全的一個環境是是是\n\n06:22.645 --> 06:37.878\n那剛剛本市有提了一個臨時提案就是針對我們當然針對最近的這個高齡駕駛的一些問題產生但是我們還是要幫我們整個的中國市場講一句話啦他們不是喜歡開車不是喜歡騎車是因為我們的大眾交通運輸\n\n06:39.079 --> 06:51.932\n這沒方便小黃公車也沒方便所以逼著他們自己一定要自己開車騎車上路這不是不能歸咎於他們所以我們才會要求說在這樣子的一個狀況之下應該全面來盤點我們所有的一個運輸的一個機制\n\n06:55.396 --> 07:13.086\n因為有方便的車公車很多有小玩公車很多大家有什麼要自己做的事情很危險我們都知道問題是他們是無奈的啊他們要處理賣菜看醫生就是必須要靠自己吧所以我們這部分我們要求交通部要趕快來做盤點那甚至我們最近聽到的我們的客運業者\n\n07:15.247 --> 07:40.485\n有一條1613路線台北到屏東也申請停駛我想這些對於這個整個屏東的交通平權我想我們都希望能夠逐步來提升但是目前高鐵南沿屏東要2039年才完成那我們的巴士的部分能不能再增加一個這樣的一個運輸的量能不然我們就剩1吋鐵路而已這樣對我們很不公平部長這部分是不是可以來做協調\n\n07:43.243 --> 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人、二十\n六、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十七、委\n員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修\n正草案」、二十八、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條\n文修正草案」、二十九、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草\n案」、三十、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十一、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例\n第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十二、台灣民眾黨黨團 (11-1-13) 、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團\n(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十四、委員羅智強\n等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十五、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十六、委員魯明哲等16人\n擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員林俊憲等20人、三十八、\n委員廖先翔等19人、三十九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具分別「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文\n修正草案」及四十、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草\n案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1145802_00004"}}}